[Tagging] Reviewing wiki pages - Tag:landcover=greenery, Tag:waterway=sluice gate, Tag:landcover=water, Tag:landcover=shrubs, Tag:landcover=sand, Tag:waterway=slReviewing wiki pages - Tag:landcover=wa

[Mateusz Konieczny]

I recently edited some of this pages (primarily mentioning that competing tags
are used 50 to 50 000 times more often).

I would welcome review of this pages (and edits where necessary).
 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landcover%3Dgreenery 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dsluice_gate 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landcover%3Dwater 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landcover%3Dshrubs
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landcover%3Dsand 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Natural_landscape
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exceptional_traffic
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dvillage_green#Tagging_controversy
 


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Re: [Tagging] Reviewing wiki pages - Tag:landcover=greenery, Tag:waterway=sluice gate, Tag:landcover=water, Tag:landcover=shrubs, Tag:landcover=sand, Tag:waterway=slReviewing wiki pages - Tag:landcove

[Marc Gemis]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 2:30 PM Mateusz Konieczny
 wrote:
>
> I recently edited some of this pages (primarily mentioning that competing tags
> are used 50 to 50 000 times more often).
>
> I would welcome review of this pages (and edits where necessary).
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landcover%3Dgreenery

This one was created after a discussion on the Dutch forum. The
problem is that there is no tag to add areas with a mixture of plants.
landuse=village_green is often misused for that.
It's a very long discussion over many years, but the idea for
landcover=greenery came up around here :
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=755300#p755300

> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dsluice_gate

The person that added this page, is not happy with
waterway=flow_control; flow_control=sluice_gate
(discussion on Belgian Forum:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=66728 )

Both threads are in Dutch, but I hope this info gives you an idea on
the reason for the pages.

regards

m.

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Re: [Tagging] Reviewing wiki pages - Tag:landcover=greenery, Tag:waterway=sluice gate, Tag:landcover=water, Tag:landcover=shrubs, Tag:landcover=sand, Tag:waterway=slReviewing wiki pages - Tag:landcove

[François Lacombe]

Hi

Le mer. 17 juil. 2019 à 15:07, Marc Gemis  a écrit :

> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dsluice_gate
>
> The person that added this page, is not happy with
> waterway=flow_control; flow_control=sluice_gate
> (discussion on Belgian Forum:
> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=66728 )
>

I'm sorry I can't be part of Ducth discussions.
Both waterway=flow_control + flow_control=sluice_gate and
waterway=sluice_gate aren't properly described on wiki and used
respectively about 500 and 250 times each.
A proposal remains about the first
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sluice_gate

As a reviewed key valve=gate exists, I'd be in favor of a third possibility
: waterway=valve + valve=gate
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:valve%3Dgate (I know one of the
examples involves a sluice gate and described as pipeline=valve).
This would be consistent with pipeline=valve (equivalent of flow control
device) + valve=gate.
waterway=valve would be designed for every situation where pipeline=valve
isn't suitable (i.e when the duct isn't a pipeline, for free flow canals,
tunnels and so on...)

All the best

François
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Re: [Tagging] maxstay=0

[joost schouppe]

SInce there was no reaction to my wiki edit, and noone gave Matheusz a good
reason, I've removed all the maxstay:conditional=0 @ (Su,PH) references
from the Wiki.

Op ma 15 jul. 2019 om 21:33 schreef Mateusz Konieczny <
matkoni...@tutanota.com>:

>
>
>
> 15 Jul 2019, 13:33 by joost.schou...@gmail.com:
>
> Hi,
>
> The most common value for maxstay=* is 0. There is no guidance on the wiki
> on how to interpret this. However, the below is used to explain that you
> cannot use the parking on Sunday and public holidays.
>
> maxstay:conditional=0 @ (Su,PH)
>
> Is there any good reason for not using access:conditional for this case?
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Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Utility markers

[Joseph Eisenberg]

It looks like the main effect of this proposal would be to replace
pipeline=marker (used 29k times) with marker=pipeline, though the new key
marker= could also be used for power cables and telecommunications cables.

Is it really necessary to change pipeline=marker?

-Joseph

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:10 PM François Lacombe 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here is another proposal we were two working on it.
> It regards several kinds of utility markers usually warning about buried
> infrastructure beneath them.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Utility_markers_proposal
>
> Markers are currently described with keys like pipeline=* and power=*
> although they're not directly involved in infrastructure running processes
> (like a valve can be on a pipeline for instance).
> Then it can be useful to define a new key marker=* to gather more
> categories on OSM (pipeline is for now the most mapped here) and prevent
> pipeline, power and telecom keys be cluttered with not directly related
> features.
>
> Note that markers mapping is important on OSM as location signs and
> relevant data to verify presence of not visible infrastructures.
>
> Feel free to raise concerns here and on talk page.
>
> All the best
>
> François
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[Tagging] Sluice gate vs valve (was Re: Reviewing wiki pages - Tag:landcover=greenery, Tag:waterway=sluice gate, Tag:landcover=water, Tag:landcover=shrubs, Tag:landcover=sand, Tag:waterway=slReviewing

[Marc Gemis]

Is the second picture a valve ?
https://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-sluice-gate.htm  This page calls it
sluice gate. I'm not familiar with the terminology, so perhaps experts
can enlighten me.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:23 PM François Lacombe
 wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Le mer. 17 juil. 2019 à 15:07, Marc Gemis  a écrit :
>>
>> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dsluice_gate
>>
>> The person that added this page, is not happy with
>> waterway=flow_control; flow_control=sluice_gate
>> (discussion on Belgian Forum:
>> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=66728 )
>
>
> I'm sorry I can't be part of Ducth discussions.
> Both waterway=flow_control + flow_control=sluice_gate and 
> waterway=sluice_gate aren't properly described on wiki and used respectively 
> about 500 and 250 times each.
> A proposal remains about the first 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sluice_gate
>
> As a reviewed key valve=gate exists, I'd be in favor of a third possibility : 
> waterway=valve + valve=gate
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:valve%3Dgate (I know one of the 
> examples involves a sluice gate and described as pipeline=valve).
> This would be consistent with pipeline=valve (equivalent of flow control 
> device) + valve=gate.
> waterway=valve would be designed for every situation where pipeline=valve 
> isn't suitable (i.e when the duct isn't a pipeline, for free flow canals, 
> tunnels and so on...)
>
> All the best
>
> François
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