Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

[djakk djakk]

Hello !

I think there should be both pieces of information ! A tag to indicate the
main road typology and a tag to indicate the link road typology (basically
the lower class of the interchange but it can be something else in case of
spaghetti junctions).
And let renderers decide which feature they want to use (probably both).

Julien « djakk »


Le mer. 16 janv. 2019 à 14:23, Paul Allen  a écrit :

> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 13:07, Martin Koppenhoefer 
> wrote:
>
> I would argue for motorway links (and trunk links according to the "German
>> trunk interpretation") it is already like this, and for all the other links
>> it could be the other way round. Maybe the rule should be something like
>> the link is the same class than the road it _belongs_ to (and this is to be
>> decided by the mapper, e.g. based on context, road typology, shape, ...).
>> In practise it seems it is done like this.
>>
>
> I would say the rule ought to be that it should be mapped in accordance
> with local laws and
> regulations as to the nature of the link.  If that cannot be determined,
> then the mapper has to use
> best guest based on context, topology, shape, speed limit and other
> signage.  For UK motorways
> the regulations say motorway access roads are classed as motorways and the
> road signage
> confirms it.  That is not necessarily the case for links other than to
> motorways, and possibly not
> even for all of those (there are always exceptions).
>
> I suspect the wiki entry was written in days of yore when a question arose
> about motorway
> access roads and it became enshrined as a general rule for all link roads
> of all types in all
> countries.  Whatever the origin, I think it is time to amend it to
> something more sensible.
>
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Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

[Steve Doerr]

On 14/01/2019 13:23, Steve Doerr wrote:

On 13/01/2019 23:42, Warin wrote:

On 14/01/19 09:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:




I think the 'mobile home' is an acceptable term to cover the lot. Why 
is it unacceptable?
The emphasise on 'permanent' I think is wrong, but there is enough 
vagueness to accept that 'mobile' means mobile.


Certainly in British English, 'mobile home' has a certain connotation 
which makes it unsuitable as a catch-all term. It's virtually a 
misnomer, since mobile homes, once sited, almost never move.




I must concede that, in UK legislation, the term 'mobile home' is 
explicitly a synonym of 'caravan', which itself is defined as 'any 
structure designed or adapted for human habitation which is capable of 
being moved from one place to another (whether by being towed, or by 
being transported on a motor vehicle or trailer) and any motor vehicle 
so designed or adapted, but does not include— (a) any railway rolling 
stock which is for the time being on rails forming part of a railway 
system, or (b) any tent'.



http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1975/49/section/9

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/8-9/62/section/29


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Re: [Tagging] Drain vs. ditch

[EthnicFood IsGreat]

Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 22:08:30 +
From: ael 
To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Drain vs. ditch

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 09:45:21PM +, Paul Allen wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 21:24, EthnicFood IsGreat <
ethnicfoodisgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

   I have been tagging them as drains, because they

are too small to be called a stream, and they are not artificial, so
they are not ditches.  (At least in the OSM sense.)


You appear to be talking about small streams.  Which are, as far as OSM is
concerned, just
streams.  Using either drain or ditch for a natural stream, even a small
one, is tagging for the
renderer.

+1  There is no lower limit on the size of a stream in British English,
although something smaller than say, I don't know, 1O cm, might be
called a "trickle" informally.



Okay ael, Paul, and Joseph, it's clear I have not been applying tags 
using OSM's definitions.  Sorry.


Mark



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Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

[EthnicFood IsGreat]

Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:49:56 +1000
From: Graeme Fitzpatrick 
To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"

Subject: Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 17:35, Marc Gemis  wrote:


A trailhead is the start of a trail, but I haven't seen the definition
of a trail yet.


Wikipedia: A *trail* is usually a *path*, *track* or unpaved lane or road.

In Australia, the term *track* can be used interchangeably with trail, and
can refer to anything from a dirt road
 to an unpaved pedestrian path
.



An American trail seems like a long distance walking route in the
wilderness. It's probably the same in Australia, Is that
interpretation correct ?


Frequently, but not always!

Yes, they often are long (& sometimes *very* long!) but can also be quite
short - ~300m?

Same thing for "wilderness" - yes, frequently, but not always.



Is that a requirement for a trail ? If so,
you will be disappointed by what there trails are behind the
trailheads in The Netherlands (or Belgium).


Maybe not disappointed, but possibly surprised (?) at how small & cramped
everything is, in the same way that you would be shocked / amazed by what
you found here! :-)

Thanks

Graeme



Don't forget rail trails, which are sometimes paved.  According to 
Wikipedia, for those of you that like to refer to it as a standard, 
these are a type of trail.  And they have trailheads.


Mark



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Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Created two further pages to (hopefully!) cover all options? :-)

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmobile_home

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shop%3Dmanufactured_home

Together with some re-wording on the main page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcaravan

Should we include photo's on that page for examples of "caravans",
"motorhomes" & so on, or would just the names be OK?

(Incidentally, how do you insert photo's in the body of the page?)

That gives us 5 pages that are all cross-referenced - can anyone think of
anything else that should be covered?

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

[Warin]

On 18/01/19 11:33, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

Created two further pages to (hopefully!) cover all options? :-)

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmobile_home

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shop%3Dmanufactured_home

Together with some re-wording on the main page 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcaravan


Should we include photo's on that page for examples of "caravans", 
"motorhomes" & so on, or would just the names be OK?


Photos are worth  a 1,000 words. You can take them from wikipedia.. 
there is a linking system for them.


(Incidentally, how do you insert photo's in the body of the page?)


I grabbed quite a few photos from wikipedia for the produce page IIRC

Find the photo you want to use on wikipedia ... find the detail of its 
name (right click and look there)


Then use
[[Image:crocodile.jpg|150px]] (for a crocodile .. the 150 px gives you a 
size .. adjust the number to suit.

[[Image:rubber.jpg|90px]] (for a rubber tree...


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Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

& done!

Thanks again for simple, straight-forward instructions, Warin :-)

Thanks

Graeme
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