[Tagging] iD news - v2.9.0 now with Bing Streetside support

2018-06-16 Thread Bryan Housel 
Happy Summer!  🕶
I just released iD v2.9.0 this week and it’s now available on openstreetmap.org 
 for editing.  If you use street level imagery you 
will like this...


đź“· Bing Streetside now supported
iD now includes a layer for Bing Streetside!  This new layer provides 
360-degree panoramic imagery across large regions of the United States, United 
Kingdom, France, and Spain. Many thanks to Jubal Harpster and the rest of the 
team at Microsoft!
Activate the Bing Streetside layer by opening the Map Data pane (shortcut F)

This pull request includes more details direct from Microsoft clarifying the 
terms of use for mapping with Bing Streetside: 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/5050 



🚸 Mapillary Traffic Signs refresh
iD also made some changes in how we process icons, which resulted in a welcome 
refresh for the Mapillary Traffic Signs layer.  We’ve switched from PNG to SVG, 
so the icons look much clearer, we support many more signs, and the traffic 
sign layer is now supported in all browsers!
Activate the Mapillary Traffic Signs layer by opening the Map Data pane 
(shortcut F)


As always, the update includes several other usability improvements and new 
presets - check out the changelog for all the details.

Changelog: 
v2.9.0 changelog:  
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#290 


Twitter:
v2.9.0 announcement:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/1007253540589449216 

Bing Streetside Manhattan: 
https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/1006997683918245888 

Mapillary Street Signs:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/1004594196664250369 


Blogs:
Bing Maps:  
https://blogs.bing.com/maps/2018-06/bing-maps-streetside-imagery-now-integrated-into-openstreetmap-id-editor
 

WinBuzzer:  
https://winbuzzer.com/2018/06/15/openstreetmap-id-editor-gets-5-petabytes-of-bing-streetside-imagery-xcxwbn/
 


Reddit:
Thread:  
https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/8r24pz/id_290_is_live_for_editing_now_you_can_use_bing/
 



Follow and star the iD project on GitHub to show your support:  
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD 
And follow me on Twitter https://twitter.com/bhousel 
 for the latest iD news. 

Thank you!
❤️ Bryan, and the rest of the 🆔 team.

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Re: [Tagging] iD news - v2.9.0 now with Bing Streetside support

2018-06-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick 
On 17 June 2018 at 00:32, Bryan Housel  wrote:

> Happy Summer!  🕶
> I just released iD v2.9.0 this week and it’s now available on
> openstreetmap.org for editing.
>

Thanks Bryan.

So are the "Unresolved notes" markers appearing on the map part of your
work?

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] iD news - v2.9.0 now with Bing Streetside support

2018-06-16 Thread Bryan Housel 
No, I haven’t seen that.. Can you share the location around where you see them?
Thanks Bryan


> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:04 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 17 June 2018 at 00:32, Bryan Housel  > wrote:
> Happy Summer!  🕶
> I just released iD v2.9.0 this week and it’s now available on 
> openstreetmap.org  for editing.  
> 
> Thanks Bryan.
> 
> So are the "Unresolved notes" markers appearing on the map part of your work? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] iD news - v2.9.0 now with Bing Streetside support

2018-06-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick 
On 17 June 2018 at 14:16, Bryan Housel  wrote:

> No, I haven’t seen that.. Can you share the location around where you see
> them?
> Thanks Bryan
>

All over the place!

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.5841/153.1775&layers=N

Weren't there a "few" ~5? days ago, when I looked at my home area, but then
I've noticed them when looking at maps that people have commented on in the
list (Europe, US etc) over these last few days. Went to my home again
yesterday & they're there?

Another thing I've just noticed as well.

I saw that you've also recently changed the Australian address format. Just
fixing some details & noticed that in edit mode, the suburb name (which has
been entered) isn't showing
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.5841/153.1775&layers=N, but it is
there in normal view only mode https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/563191304 ?

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] iD news - v2.9.0 now with Bing Streetside support

2018-06-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick 
Sorry, address didn't copy for the edit screen I spoke of :-(

Should be
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=563191304#map=19/-28.07790/153.44752

Thanks

Graeme

On 17 June 2018 at 14:31, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:

>
>
> On 17 June 2018 at 14:16, Bryan Housel  wrote:
>
>> No, I haven’t seen that.. Can you share the location around where you see
>> them?
>> Thanks Bryan
>>
>
> All over the place!
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.5841/153.1775&layers=N
>
> Weren't there a "few" ~5? days ago, when I looked at my home area, but
> then I've noticed them when looking at maps that people have commented on
> in the list (Europe, US etc) over these last few days. Went to my home
> again yesterday & they're there?
>
> Another thing I've just noticed as well.
>
> I saw that you've also recently changed the Australian address format.
> Just fixing some details & noticed that in edit mode, the suburb name
> (which has been entered) isn't showing https://www.
> openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.5841/153.1775&layers=N, but it is there in
> normal view only mode https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/563191304 ?
>
> Graeme
>
>
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Re: [Tagging] iD news - v2.9.0 now with Bing Streetside support

2018-06-16 Thread Bryan Housel 
> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:31 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick  
> wrote:
> On 17 June 2018 at 14:16, Bryan Housel  > wrote:
> No, I haven’t seen that.. Can you share the location around where you see 
> them?
> Thanks Bryan
> 
> All over the place!
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.5841/153.1775&layers=N 
> 
> 
> Weren't there a "few" ~5? days ago, when I looked at my home area, but then 
> I've noticed them when looking at maps that people have commented on in the 
> list (Europe, US etc) over these last few days. Went to my home again 
> yesterday & they're there?

Oh, I dont know anything about people adding notes - that’s definitely not iD!


> Another thing I've just noticed as well.
> 
> I saw that you've also recently changed the Australian address format. Just 
> fixing some details & noticed that in edit mode, the suburb name (which has 
> been entered) isn't showing 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.5841/153.1775&layers=N 
> , but it is 
> there in normal view only mode https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/563191304 
>  ?


Yes, we did adjust the Australian address field based on feedback from local 
mappers..
see https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/5039 
 for the discussion..


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[Tagging] `amenity=shelter` implies `building=yes`?

2018-06-16 Thread Bryan Housel 
Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`?

The osm wiki page does not suggest `building=*` as a “tag to use in combination”
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=shelter 


But most other features which are closed-way structures need the `building=*` 
tag.  I know it’s a tag used by 3D mapping.  It seems like for consistency, we 
should add an explicit `building=*` tag.

Asking for https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/5084 


thanks Bryan

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[Tagging] Unresolved notes

2018-06-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick 
G'day all

Just mentioned this on Bryan's iD thread, but he knows nothing about it.

This last week, I've seen "Unresolved note" markers suddenly appear all
over the place - I've seen them in Europe, US & here in Australia where I
know for a fcat that they definitely weren't showing ~a week ago?

eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.8696/153.1784&layers=N

Some seem to be problem / error reports from maps.me, but others don't
appear to make much sense at all eg
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/968837#map=17/-28.12680/153.48452&layers=N

Others are showing as a note apparently at a location
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1278528#map=17/-27.96197/153.40334&layers=N,
but then it appears there's nothing there to fix
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=17/-27.96197/153.40334

Anybody got any ideas about what they're all about & what we're supposed to
do about them?

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] Unresolved notes

2018-06-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick 
Sorry, copied mixed info

This bit should show

Others are showing as a note apparently at a location
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1037676 but then it appears there's
nothing there to fix https://www.openstreetmap.
org/edit#map=17/-27.96197/153.40334

Thanks

Graeme

On 17 June 2018 at 16:21, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:

> G'day all
>
> Just mentioned this on Bryan's iD thread, but he knows nothing about it.
>
> This last week, I've seen "Unresolved note" markers suddenly appear all
> over the place - I've seen them in Europe, US & here in Australia where I
> know for a fcat that they definitely weren't showing ~a week ago?
>
> eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/-27.8696/153.1784&layers=N
>
> Some seem to be problem / error reports from maps.me, but others don't
> appear to make much sense at all eg https://www.openstreetmap.
> org/note/968837#map=17/-28.12680/153.48452&layers=N
>
> Others are showing as a note apparently at a location https://www.
> openstreetmap.org/note/1278528#map=17/-27.96197/153.40334&layers=N, but
> then it appears there's nothing there to fix https://www.openstreetmap.
> org/edit#map=17/-27.96197/153.40334
>
> Anybody got any ideas about what they're all about & what we're supposed
> to do about them?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
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Re: [Tagging] `amenity=shelter` implies `building=yes`?

2018-06-16 Thread Jo 
I tag bus stop shelters with amenity=shelter,
shelter_type=public_transport. In Belgium they are constructions with glass
'walls' and a metal roof. I don't consider them as buildings though.

https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/polyglotopenstreetmap?lat=50.8884666&lng=4.7537767&z=17&pKey=6BcoR8U--jKnsHJUsDTk4g&focus=photo

some are smaller:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/polyglotopenstreetmap?lat=50.8872816667&lng=4.7474284&z=17&pKey=1BF1bW6NzDMmG_wCU7v4Tg&focus=photo&x=0.514565120648143&y=0.41978226626934106&zoom=0

I do use JOSM's buldings-tools plugin to draw them. Really convenient to
draw rectangular closed ways with the right tags on them, straight away.

Polyglot

Op zo 17 jun. 2018 om 06:46 schreef Bryan Housel :

> Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`?
>
> The osm wiki page does not suggest `building=*` as a “tag to use in
> combination”
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=shelter
>
> But most other features which are closed-way structures need the
> `building=*` tag.  I know it’s a tag used by 3D mapping.  It seems like for
> consistency, we should add an explicit `building=*` tag.
>
> Asking for https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/5084
>
> thanks Bryan
>
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Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick 
So, after a few days thought, can we say that we've resolved to work on
asking for emergency=lifeguard to be rendered, which would then go down to
lifeguard=base etc?


Thanks

Graeme

On 12 June 2018 at 07:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:

>
>
> On 11 June 2018 at 17:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/06/18 15:39, osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote:
>>
>> *From:* Andrew Harvey 
>> 
>> *Sent:* Monday, 11 June 2018 15:31
>> *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
>>  
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard
>>
>>
>>
>> > Also, water_rescue_station is probably identical to lifeguard_base
>>
>>
>>
>> Agree based on the description given at https://wiki.openstreetmap.
>> org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dwater_rescue_station it sounds like
>> lifeguard_base.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just based on the tag name I thought it meant something like
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_guard. The wikipedia page seems to
>> indicate coast_guard is a common term internationally (even though many of
>> the agencies worldwide aren't known as the "Coast Guard", it seems like
>> it's common enough for emergency=coast_guard.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That was my first thought too, but then I looked at the description on
>> the wiki and it very much sounds like a life guard base and not a coast
>> guard station.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I wonder if any of the current water_rescue_station's are really coast
>> guards?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That’s certainly possible. If the decision is made to merge these keys,
>> they will probably all need to be manually checked.
>>
>>
>> Err not in the uk ... coast guard is not military.
>>
>> See
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Coastguard
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_National_Lifeboat_Institution
>>
>>
>> In Australia that are volunteers that do marine rescue e.g.
>>
>> http://marinerescueqld.org.au/
>>
>>
>> None of these fit in to the beach lifeguard situation.
>>
>> I have no idea what the though was behind the OSM water rescue station .
>> I think that is just confusing.
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> Agree with you that "Coast Guard" is not a one-size-fits-all term.
>
> There is amenity=rescue_station https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/
> Tag:amenity%3Drescue_station, which, to my mind should actually also be
> an emergency= listing?
>
> Looking at that, it appears that the whole emergency= area has been going
> to be cleaned up https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_
> Emergency_Cleanup - for the last 4 years!
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
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Re: [Tagging] `amenity=shelter` implies `building=yes`?

2018-06-16 Thread Shawn K. Quinn 
On 06/16/2018 11:45 PM, Bryan Housel wrote:
> Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`?

If this is for bus stop/transit shelters, it would imply building=roof
at minimum. The shelters here usually have three walls (sometimes only
one wall) with the fourth side being open to the street, plus a canopy
to protect from rain.

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