[Tagging] Outdoor tribunes/ seating steps
I think there is a problem with outdoor tribunes/ seating steps correct tagging. - leisure=stadium tag is for whole complex, not only for stadium (it includes side pitches, parking etc.) - building=stadium tag is for stadium as a building (in OSM we assume that building is a construction, where we can enter "inside" it) - building=grandstand tag is for tribunes, but there is assumption, that it's kind of a building (as building=* these areas are rendered like any other building, which is suggesting, that there is classic building or roof in this place) Looking at tribunes/ seating steps in amphitheatres or parks etc., they absolutely aren't a buildings. Examples: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Amfiteatr_-_Przemyśl1.jpg/800px-Amfiteatr_-_Przemyśl1.jpg http://www.nagawki.pl/gallery/Amfiteatr.jpg https://d-nm.ppstatic.pl/kadr/k/r/fd/dd/57bf29eda3e82_o,size,933x0,q,70,h,a2d028.jpg I think we need separate tag for them. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Manor tagging
For me, it's obvious that we should choose: * historic=palace for palaces * historic=manor for manors Castles and palaces/ manors are different types of objects and it shouldn't be mixed as some subtypes of castle. Of coure there are examples "on the edge" but taking them as subtypes of castle it's not a solution. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Manor tagging
What about modern palaces, or buildings still in use as a palace? A manor is an area of land, not a building. xxx=manor_house would be more appropriate. I agree that neither are hyponym / hypernym of castle - that is something completely different like "fortified against attack". A former castle may be in use as a palace. A manor house may be built in the style of a castle. On 2018-03-20 18:34, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: > For me, it's obvious that we should choose: > > * historic=palace for palaces > * historic=manor for manors > > Castles and palaces/ manors are different types of objects and it shouldn't > be mixed as some subtypes of castle. Of coure there are examples "on the > edge" but taking them as subtypes of castle it's not a solution. > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Manor tagging
sent from a phone > On 20. Mar 2018, at 18:55, Colin Smale wrote: > > What about modern palaces, or buildings still in use as a palace? Would you say historic=palace doesn’t apply? is “modern” referring to an architectural style? “In use as a palace” means “residence of someone”? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Outdoor tribunes/ seating steps
The tags amenity=theatre, theatre:type=amphi is used for this: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/theatre%3Atype=amphi Kind of clunky, but at least doesn't assume it's a building. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: > I think there is a problem with outdoor tribunes/ seating steps correct > tagging. > > - leisure=stadium tag is for whole complex, not only for stadium (it > includes side pitches, parking etc.) > - building=stadium tag is for stadium as a building (in OSM we assume that > building is a construction, where we can enter "inside" it) > - building=grandstand tag is for tribunes, but there is assumption, that > it's kind of a building (as building=* these areas are rendered like any > other building, which is suggesting, that there is classic building or roof > in this place) > > Looking at tribunes/ seating steps in amphitheatres or parks etc., they > absolutely aren't a buildings. Examples: > > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/ > Amfiteatr_-_Przemyśl1.jpg/800px-Amfiteatr_-_Przemyśl1.jpg > > http://www.nagawki.pl/gallery/Amfiteatr.jpg > > https://d-nm.ppstatic.pl/kadr/k/r/fd/dd/57bf29eda3e82_o, > size,933x0,q,70,h,a2d028.jpg > > > I think we need separate tag for them. > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Manor tagging
Well, in some villages there are palaces that were never fortified. This is the case, for example, of the Palace of Count of Superunda, north of this point: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/42.25708/-2.63038 It is just a big abandoned house in the middle of a village. There are many palace-houses like this in Spain. Tagging them as castle:type=palace sounds ridiculous, since anyone looking for a castle in the village will get a "no castle here" as reply. El mar., 20 de marzo de 2018 22:39, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> escribió: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 20. Mar 2018, at 18:55, Colin Smale wrote: > > > > What about modern palaces, or buildings still in use as a palace? > > > Would you say historic=palace doesn’t apply? > is “modern” referring to an architectural style? “In use as a palace” > means “residence of someone”? > > cheers, > Martin > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Shop=tailor vs craft=tailor
sent from a phone > On 19. Mar 2018, at 22:59, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > But if you don't add it to a building, where does it go? > usually a node or a polygon, you can make it a multipolygon if you want the same extent as a building > & what do you call the building that's the office / base of a plumber / > electrician / similar tradesman; or the shop where a tailor / dressmaker / > watchmaker works? the building gets the tags for the building (building type, building:levels, start_date, architect, wikipedia, roof shape, name if it has one, etc.) cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
