Re: [Tagging] Variable position

2017-12-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 25 December 2017 at 01:46, Michal Fabík  wrote:

Can anybody think of other examples like this?


Cranes?

I was thinking about Hammerhead cranes that are used on (usually) high-rise
construction sites & are in place for maybe 12 months (+/-) at a time,
depending on duration of construction. These are also visible from quite a
distance to give a navigation reference, although, of course, they're
usually found in built-up areas (& are also on construction sites, which
will also be marked as such in OSM! :-))

Also just thought about dockside cranes for loading shipping containers.
They would always be on this particular dock, but may travel up & down
along the length of the dock?

Thanks

Graeme
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[Tagging] cycleway:both=no in StreetComplete

2017-12-25 Thread Dave F

Hi

There's been quite a few recent additions of 'cycleway:both=no' being 
added by users of StreetComplete.


http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8609990

There's no mention of this tag on the wiki & to me appears a bit 
ambiguous. Most (all?) are the sole cycle tag on the entity. Both=no 
suggests that a cycleway could exist in one direction.


What is the reason the developers aren't using the established tagging 
scheme:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway

Note under 'cycleway=no' as a tag of "dubious usefulness". I concur with 
this view


DaveF

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Re: [Tagging] cycleway:both=no in StreetComplete

2017-12-25 Thread marc marc
Hello,

Le 26. 12. 17 à 00:22, Dave F a écrit :

> There's been quite a few recent additions of 'cycleway:both=no' being 
> added by users of StreetComplete.
> 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8609990
> 
> There's no mention of this tag on the wiki & to me appears a bit 
> ambiguous. Most (all?) are the sole cycle tag on the entity. Both=no 
> suggests that a cycleway could exist in one direction.

I agree that cycleway:both=no is not a good tag.
cycleway=no is better.

> What is the reason the developers aren't using the established tagging 
> scheme:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway

ask the dev :)

> Note under 'cycleway=no' as a tag of "dubious usefulness".

I could help to see what road have been surveyed and somebody see that 
this road doesn't have a cycleway. Put in urban area, it's a (minor) 
added value. Without a cycleway tag, the cycleway is unknown.

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it's also a dubious usefulness :)

Regards,
Marc
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Re: [Tagging] cycleway:both=no in StreetComplete

2017-12-25 Thread Dave Swarthout
This sounds similar to those that suggested adding oneway=no to all streets
that are not explicitly tagged as oneway=yes. All roads without
cycleways could conceivably be tagged this way.
Unless there is some cause for such a tag, for example, noting that a
cycleway once existed here but is no longer present, this tag is totally
unnecessary and adds needless data to OSM.

On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 6:50 AM, marc marc 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Le 26. 12. 17 à 00:22, Dave F a écrit :
>
> > There's been quite a few recent additions of 'cycleway:both=no' being
> > added by users of StreetComplete.
> >
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8609990
> >
> > There's no mention of this tag on the wiki & to me appears a bit
> > ambiguous. Most (all?) are the sole cycle tag on the entity. Both=no
> > suggests that a cycleway could exist in one direction.
>
> I agree that cycleway:both=no is not a good tag.
> cycleway=no is better.
>
> > What is the reason the developers aren't using the established tagging
> > scheme:
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway
>
> ask the dev :)
>
> > Note under 'cycleway=no' as a tag of "dubious usefulness".
>
> I could help to see what road have been surveyed and somebody see that
> this road doesn't have a cycleway. Put in urban area, it's a (minor)
> added value. Without a cycleway tag, the cycleway is unknown.
>
> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>
> it's also a dubious usefulness :)
>
> Regards,
> Marc
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