Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

2015-10-12 Thread John Willis 

> On Oct 12, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Marc Gemis  wrote:
> 
> This historic places map has a list of castle types, 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Historical_Objects/Karteneigenschaften
> There is "Shiro" in the list, which is marked a Japanese Burg.

Its up now and I looked through it. 

I take it "berg" is German for castle?

I was suggesting a better (english) definition for castle, as there are castles 
all over Japan, albeit many are rebuilt (in a period accurate method) because 
only the very large footings are stone. The rest is wood. The wood 
construction, using whole trees as supports for the castle towers, is because 
the flexibility of the structures was necessary for earthquakes - stone castles 
would have collapsed after an earthquake or two. Between the stone footing 
shifting in earthquakes (recently damaging Matsumoto-Jo), fire (claiming many 
castles in battle), and rot (himeji-jo recently went through its scheduled 
renovation to replace the removable support tree trunks with new ones AFAIK), 
the wood castles present a "grandfather's axe" issue. But as with other 
historic buildings rebuilt after a disaster (the gold temple was rebuilt in the 
50s) they basically look at heavy repair as "maintenance" of the structure, 
since damage or fire is inevitable. 

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Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

2015-10-12 Thread Marc Gemis 
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:11 PM, John Willis  wrote:

> This historic places map has a list of castle types,
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Historical_Objects/Karteneigenschaften
> There is "Shiro" in the list, which is marked a Japanese Burg.
>
>
>
Sorry for the confusion, the wiki page was always up, the website with the
map is down.


> Its up now and I looked through it.
>
> I take it "berg" is German for castle?
>

AFAIK burg is the German word for castle (with u)  the defensive style, see
the picture under burg on that page. Berg  (with e) is mountain.

regards

m.

p.s. I only know some German from holidays and police series, so perhaps
Martin or someone else can confirm this ?
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Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

2015-10-12 Thread johnw 

> On Oct 11, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer  
> wrote:
> 
> I think the intention is to use "defensive" now:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:castle_type 
> 
The interesting thing about these definitions is that the US White House is a 
castle - It most certainly is a manor house of some kind. The president does 
live in it. 

Javbw

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