Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood
I'd say it's very rare that "wood" could be interpreted as possibly meaning "woodchip". Woodchip has very different material properties, and different affordances for travellers. A little bit like saying "wood" might mean "sawdust" ;) surface=woodchip is used more often than surface=woodchips, though neither of them is used very much at the moment: taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/surface=woodchip/surface=woodchips I would advocate "surface=woodchip" (singular), and preserve the existing meaning of surface=wood as planks. Maybe we should document "surface=woodchip"? Just my 2p Dan 2014-08-22 6:53 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > I discovered* that surface=wood is ambiguous and may mean two very different > things: > 1) paths with wood chips > 2) paths paved with wooden planks (for example > https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plik:Bernatek_foot-bridge_%28Love_padlocks%29,_Krakow,_Poland.jpg > ) > > I want to tag in way that would be clear, now I consider using for the > second > situation [surface=wood; wood=planks] or [surface=planks] and > [surface=wood; wood=chips] or [surface=woodchips] for the first one. > > Currently wiki mentions only situation (2). > > *http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=444548#p444548 > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood
I'd suggest surface=timber & surface= woodchip On Aug 22, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mateusz Konieczny" wrote: > I discovered* that surface=wood is ambiguous and may mean two very > different things: > 1) paths with wood chips > 2) paths paved with wooden planks (for example > > https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plik:Bernatek_foot-bridge_%28Love_padlocks%29,_Krakow,_Poland.jpg > ) > > I want to tag in way that would be clear, now I consider using for the > second > situation [surface=wood; wood=planks] or [surface=planks] and > [surface=wood; wood=chips] or [surface=woodchips] for the first one. > > Currently wiki mentions only situation (2). > > *http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=444548#p444548 > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood
Keep surface=wood with the meaning planks. It's used very frequently (typically for bridges) Add surface=woodchip(s) On 22 August 2014 09:22, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I'd suggest surface=timber & surface= woodchip > On Aug 22, 2014 6:53 AM, "Mateusz Konieczny" wrote: > >> I discovered* that surface=wood is ambiguous and may mean two very >> different things: >> 1) paths with wood chips >> 2) paths paved with wooden planks (for example >> >> https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plik:Bernatek_foot-bridge_%28Love_padlocks%29,_Krakow,_Poland.jpg >> ) >> >> I want to tag in way that would be clear, now I consider using for the >> second >> situation [surface=wood; wood=planks] or [surface=planks] and >> [surface=wood; wood=chips] or [surface=woodchips] for the first one. >> >> Currently wiki mentions only situation (2). >> >> *http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=444548#p444548 >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Fwd: Information board details in bus stops
I forward my question here because I think my first attempt was done on the wrong list (tran...@openstreetmap.org) : > Hi, > > How would you tag an information board in a bus stop and mainly, if > there is a timetable, map, etc. > > This picture on twitter suggests new tags: > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvUsqMEIMAA3VRf.jpg > > "information:name", "information:map", "information:timetable" > > I didn't find an existing wiki proposal for such details. My question is about the information board/boards at bus stops which someone tries to tag in details in his French city (think about disabilities). Accidentally, on the transit list, the tag "strip=yes" was also questionned (check the picture). I guess it's about the road markings on the road itself where the bus actually stops (but not sure, it's maybe also something for blinds). Someone on the other list suggested to replace it by "road_markings=yes". Any other suggestions about this and the information boards ? Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Forest vs Wood
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Andrew Guertin wrote: > landcover=forest > anywhere there's trees on the ground > landuse=managed_forest > where logging activity occurs or the forest is otherwise closely > tended by humans > natural=wild_forest > forests without much human activity, either because they're > protected or because they're far away from humans So, after 7 or 8 years of confusion about 2 main tags for "forest", the best idea now is to introduce a third one... Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood
> Il giorno 22/ago/2014, alle ore 09:36, Volker Schmidt ha > scritto: > > Keep surface=wood with the meaning planks. It's used very frequently > (typically for bridges) > Add surface=woodchip(s) +1 the singular/plural question cannot be answered easily by looking at current values, as both occurs, eg paving_stones or concrete:plates, but also cobblestone, pebblestone or grass_paver: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface#values Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood
2014-08-23 1:40 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > the singular/plural question cannot be answered easily by looking at > current values, as both occurs, eg paving_stones or concrete:plates, but > also cobblestone, pebblestone or grass_paver: > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface#values > Plural? paving_stones seems to be more popular than all other forms combined where it was possible to use plural or singular form. Anyway, it would be a good idea to decide on plural/singular recommendation for new values where it is possible to use either possibility. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] cobblestone, sett and surface=*
How one should tag surfaces: - paved with equally sized, flat stones ( https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.061304,19.938305,3a,30y,270.75h,72.93t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sBcAaihLoEYmtOQbTnOlxWA!2e0!3e5?hl=pl ) - paved with roughly shaped stones, only partially flattened ( https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.059029,19.940113,3a,30y,276.76h,68.16t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sJiyUyJYQx9Fqv_dC1-18_A!2e0?hl=pl ) I tag in the first situation as surface=sett and in the second as surface=cobblestone. Bur according to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface both should be tagged as surface=cobblestone. cobblestone:flattened is mentioned (without any description). To further complicate situation it seems that both surfaces should be described as sett - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sett_%28paving%29 Meanwhile, on taginfo - https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface#values : - cobblestone 119 216 - sett 6 261 - cobblestone:flattened 2 176 Cobblestones, sett mistaken for cobblestone and flat sett are clearly different and I hope for way to differentiate between these, better than using smoothness. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
