Re: [Tagging] convert imported natural=rock areas to bare_rock

[Pieren]

On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Friedrich Volkmann  wrote:
> Unfortunately, I am no politician who can spend all of his time for campaigns.

If you plan a mechanical edit exclusively in France, you should at
least send a message to the local list (e.g. talk-fr@; even in
English) to inform the local community about your intentions. It is
not politics but basic courtesy.

Pieren

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[Tagging] Cycle lane tagging

[Volker Schmidt]

Questions regarding correct cycle lane tagging.

Regarding a situation like http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle  M3a:

a) How do I tag the width of the cycle lane?

b) How do I tag an arrangement like M3a where the lane is signposted as
non-segregated foot and cycle use?

Do I need to use lanes tagging for this, which is completely different form
the cycle lane tagging?

Volker

(Italy)
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Re: [Tagging] Cycle lane tagging

[Ole Nielsen / osm]

> Questions regarding correct cycle lane tagging.
>
> Regarding a situation like http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle
> M3a:
>
> a) How do I tag the width of the cycle lane?
>
> b) How do I tag an arrangement like M3a where the lane is signposted as
> non-segregated foot and cycle use?
>
> Do I need to use lanes tagging for this, which is completely different
> form
> the cycle lane tagging?

See here how to do it

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface#Surface_for_foot-_and_cycleways


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Re: [Tagging] Multistory medical office building

[John F. Eldredge]

To clarify, if the business entity has ah single name, or if the building has a 
single name? One of my doctors is in a medical practice with several other 
doctors. This practice has a name. The practice is in an office building shared 
with several other medical practices. The building in turn has a name, the 
Anderson Building. The company that owns it is in the real-estate management 
business, not the medical business.
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On August 1, 2014 3:51:02 AM CDT, "Jaakko Helleranta.com" 
 wrote:
> If the building carries a common name for all the offices I would tag
> it
> with amenity=clinic. Otherwise each office with amenity=doctors.
> You can dig the wiki for indoor mapping advice, level on which the
> office
> is is perhaps level=# (can't remember w/out verifying).
> 
> Cheers,
> -Jaakko
> On Jul 31, 2014 4:50 PM, "Hans De Kryger" 
> wrote:
> 
> > Yes it's separate. It's across the street from a small hospital.
> > On Jul 31, 2014 3:45 PM, "Eugene Alvin Villar" 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Is this a building completely separate from a hospital? I encounter
> these
> >> buildings as part of a hospital complex and so include them in an
> area
> >> tagged with amenity=hospital.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Hans De Kryger <
> >> hans.dekryge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wondering how to tag a 2 story medical office building. It has
> many
> >>> doctors offices. To many to place poi's one upon another on the
> building.
> >>> In need of help?
> >>> *Regards,*
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> >>> *Hans*
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Re: [Tagging] Cycle lane tagging

[Janko Mihelić]

2014-08-02 16:00 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt :

>
> Do I need to use lanes tagging for this, which is completely different
> form the cycle lane tagging?
>

I think lanes tagging is the best solution. It will be consistent with road
lane tagging so that renderers, routers and mappers won't have to discover
new schemes. We just need a few more definitions that are targeted at
pedestrians and bicycles.

Janko
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[Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

[Michał Brzozowski]

Sometimes it's hard for me to tell whether a food venue should be
classified as a restaurant or a fast food.
From the description in the Wiki, the distinguishing features are:
* payment right away
* counter-only service (no waiters)
* disposable plates and utensils
* usually offers take-away
* very fast (I guess this means in most cases you wait at the counter
for your order to be fulfilled)

Having listed that, a few problematic cases from my experience in Poland:

GreenWay, BioWay and the likes
* vegetarian food
* no waiters, you order at the counter, wait at your table and take
your meal from the counter when it's ready
* non-disposable utensils

Various pizza venues, be it a part of bigger chain or one-off
* offers pizza, maybe other Italian dishes, salad, fries,
* no waiters, as above
* telephone delivery
* non-disposable utensils etc when you eat at the venue
Basically similar to eg. Domino's.

These usually get tagged as fast_food. Should they be? Sometimes food
venues beg to be called a fast food (and someone tags them so) due to
quality, but then again, they're not so fast - so maybe there should
be amenity=shitty_food? :P Jokes aside, it's all subjective (hence,
fails at verifiability).

Michał

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Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

[Shawn K. Quinn]

On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 01:45 +0200, Michał Brzozowski wrote:
> Sometimes it's hard for me to tell whether a food venue should be
> classified as a restaurant or a fast food.
> From the description in the Wiki, the distinguishing features are:
> * payment right away
> * counter-only service (no waiters)
> * disposable plates and utensils
> * usually offers take-away
> * very fast (I guess this means in most cases you wait at the counter
> for your order to be fulfilled)
> 
> Having listed that, a few problematic cases from my experience in Poland:
> 
> GreenWay, BioWay and the likes
> * vegetarian food
> * no waiters, you order at the counter, wait at your table and take
> your meal from the counter when it's ready
> * non-disposable utensils

I'd lean toward calling this type of place (and tagging it as) fast
food.

> Various pizza venues, be it a part of bigger chain or one-off
> * offers pizza, maybe other Italian dishes, salad, fries,
> * no waiters, as above
> * telephone delivery
> * non-disposable utensils etc when you eat at the venue
> Basically similar to eg. Domino's.

For these pizza venues, I would tag them similar to how Domino's is
tagged in the US/Canada. The Domino's nearest me is amenity=restaurant
cuisine=pizza though in fairness the menu has expanded greatly beyond
simply pizza.

> These usually get tagged as fast_food. Should they be? Sometimes food
> venues beg to be called a fast food (and someone tags them so) due to
> quality, but then again, they're not so fast - so maybe there should
> be amenity=shitty_food? :P Jokes aside, it's all subjective (hence,
> fails at verifiability).

As bad as the food may be somewhere, in all seriousness, tags should
definitely not contain profanity. Even the G-rated amenity=crummy_food
or similar wouldn't be helpful.

You might try referring to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_restaurant

which also mentions another classification, "fast casual" which is
basically a step up from "fast food" but not quite as fancy as a
(casual) full-service restaurant. Chipotle is mentioned as an example of
fast casual and a randomly selected one in my area is simply tagged as
amenity=fast_food cuisine=mexican.

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn 


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