Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

2014-05-16 Thread Georg Feddern


Am 15.05.2014 19:15, schrieb Andreas Goss:

I'd see it like this:
capital=2 this place is the capital of a country
capital=4 this place is the capital of a region (etc.)

i.e. you can see the administrative importance, but there is no notion
of which entity the place is the capital.

capital=2;4 doesn't make much sense then.


You are ignoring that most (BUT NOT ALL!!!) country capitals are also 
state (region) capitals.


nope - the logical _relation_ of the city and the country/state has to 
be established in the osm-relation of the regarding country/state with 
an appropriate role.


The information at the node itself will be only an information about 
importance in the end - not to say as renderer hint.

And for this case a "value is less or equal" will be sufficient.

Georg

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Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

2014-05-16 Thread Andreas Goss

Am 5/16/14 11:32 , schrieb Georg Feddern:

The information at the node itself will be only an information about
importance in the end - not to say as renderer hint.
And for this case a "value is less or equal" will be sufficient.


For what apart from Rendering will this "importance" be usefull?

And I still think it would be missleading and will lead to confusion. 
Someone who wants to look up all state capitals might just check all 
nodes for capital=4 (because it's the logical thing to do) not knowing 
that it can only be done correctly by also looking at relations.


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Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-16 12:00 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss :

> For what apart from Rendering will this "importance" be usefull?
>
> And I still think it would be missleading and will lead to confusion.
> Someone who wants to look up all state capitals might just check all nodes
> for capital=4 (because it's the logical thing to do) not knowing that it
> can only be done correctly by also looking at relations.
>



I don't see this as a problem. Looking for all state capitals is not within
the scope of the capital tag, as you will miss those which are also
capitals for bigger entities like countries. You might have to look up all
capital=1/2/3/4/yes places and remove those which aren't state (level 4)
capitals. Yes, rendering is probably the most important use case for this
tag, why should that be a problem?

cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Tagging] Large, multilane road tagging question

2014-05-16 Thread Andrew Guertin

On 05/15/2014 10:56 AM, fly wrote:

The problem is that if you do reply on a different subject even if
changing the content it is still a reply and will be sorted below the
message you reply to. This way it can be easily overlooked.

If you want to open a new subject/thread, please send a new message and
not a reply.


For example, after getting partway through the thread "Re: [Tagging] 
[OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque", I decided that I didn't 
care to read the rest of it. I told my email client to mark all messages 
in that thread as already read. Since your (John) message was originally 
sent as a reply to that thread, it was *also* marked as read. I nearly 
missed seeing it at all.


--Andrew

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