Re: [Tagging] admin_level on nodes: wiki vs practice
On 11 May 2014 06:32, "Fernando Trebien" wrote: > > Hm I've looked up a few other cities (Hamburg, Munich, Cologne, Lyon, > Marseille, Rotterdam, Zurich, Manchester, Birmingham, Salzburg, > Aarhus) and they do not have an admin_level tag on the place=* node. > At the same time, I found some other cities that do: Paris [1], > Kopenhagen [2], Barcelona [3], Madrid [4], Brussels [5], Amsterdam > [6], Bern [7], Vienna [8], Rome [9], Milan [10]: In Italy we use capital=* with the corresponding (minimum) admin level, so Rome has capital=2 and so on.. Regards, Stefano > > [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/17807753 > [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13707878 > [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/152364165 > [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/21068295 > [5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1635651356 > [6] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/268396336 > [7] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/18477455 > [8] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/17328659 > [9] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/72959652 > [10] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/62505581 > > I see an approximate pattern: capital cities tend to have an > admin_level tag, others tend not to have it. Maybe it's something in > use for backward compatibility, such as an with and old renderer that > uses it instead of the capital tag to render a label at lower zoom > levels. > > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Andreas Goss wrote: > >> Berlin > > > > > > Honestly looks like and error nobody has noticed yet. I mean admin_level=2 ? > > Berlin is a city state which might justify =4, but unless we somehow tag > > capitals like this I don't see the reasoning behind this tag in the first > > place. > > > > Andi > > __ > > openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 > > wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 > > > > > > > > ___ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > -- > Fernando Trebien > +55 (51) 9962-5409 > > "Nullius in verba." > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] admin_level on nodes: wiki vs practice
See also the use of the admin_centre in boundary relations. This allows a place to have a different role/importance for each admin area it is in. An interesting case is Amsterdam, which is the capital of NL but not the provincial capital of the province it is in (that's Haarlem). The tagging reflects the facts, and how they are represented on the map is a matter for the renderer... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:boundary Colin On 2014-05-11 10:37, sabas88 wrote: > On 11 May 2014 06:32, "Fernando Trebien" wrote: >> >> Hm I've looked up a few other cities (Hamburg, Munich, Cologne, Lyon, >> Marseille, Rotterdam, Zurich, Manchester, Birmingham, Salzburg, >> Aarhus) and they do not have an admin_level tag on the place=* node. >> At the same time, I found some other cities that do: Paris [1], >> Kopenhagen [2], Barcelona [3], Madrid [4], Brussels [5], Amsterdam >> [6], Bern [7], Vienna [8], Rome [9], Milan [10]: > > In Italy we use capital=* with the corresponding (minimum) admin level, so > Rome has capital=2 and so on.. > > Regards, > Stefano > >> >> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/17807753 [2] >> [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13707878 [3] >> [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/152364165 [4] >> [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/21068295 [5] >> [5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1635651356 [6] >> [6] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/268396336 [7] >> [7] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/18477455 [8] >> [8] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/17328659 [9] >> [9] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/72959652 [10] >> [10] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/62505581 [11] >> >> I see an approximate pattern: capital cities tend to have an >> admin_level tag, others tend not to have it. Maybe it's something in >> use for backward compatibility, such as an with and old renderer that >> uses it instead of the capital tag to render a label at lower zoom >> levels. >> >> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Andreas Goss wrote: >> >> Berlin >> > >> > >> > Honestly looks like and error nobody has noticed yet. I mean admin_level=2 >> > ? >> > Berlin is a city state which might justify =4, but unless we somehow tag >> > capitals like this I don't see the reasoning behind this tag in the first >> > place. >> > >> > Andi >> > __ >> > openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 [12] >> > wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 [13] >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Tagging mailing list >> > Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging [1] >> >> >> >> -- >> Fernando Trebien >> +55 (51) 9962-5409 >> >> "Nullius in verba." >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging [1] > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging [1] Links: -- [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/17807753 [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13707878 [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/152364165 [5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/21068295 [6] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1635651356 [7] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/268396336 [8] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/18477455 [9] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/17328659 [10] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/72959652 [11] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/62505581 [12] http://openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 [13] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] access=public and access=yes
> Am 10/mag/2014 um 19:19 schrieb bulwersator : > > Is there any difference between access=public and access=yes? I am not aware of any, seems synonymous to me in the access context, suggest to normalize to yes cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] access=public and access=yes
On 5/11/14 5:48 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> Am 10/mag/2014 um 19:19 schrieb bulwersator : >> >> Is there any difference between access=public and access=yes? > > I am not aware of any, seems synonymous to me in the access context, suggest > to normalize to yes > i concur. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] admin_level on nodes: wiki vs practice
In the German Forum we came to the conclusion that the idea probably was to indicate it's the capital (which should be done with role: admin_centre) http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=25418 I removed that Tag from Berlin. Andi Am 5/11/14 06:31 , schrieb Fernando Trebien: Hm I've looked up a few other cities (Hamburg, Munich, Cologne, Lyon, Marseille, Rotterdam, Zurich, Manchester, Birmingham, Salzburg, Aarhus) and they do not have an admin_level tag on the place=* node. At the same time, I found some other cities that do: Paris [1], Kopenhagen [2], Barcelona [3], Madrid [4], Brussels [5], Amsterdam [6], Bern [7], Vienna [8], Rome [9], Milan [10]: [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/17807753 [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13707878 [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/152364165 [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/21068295 [5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1635651356 [6] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/268396336 [7] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/18477455 [8] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/17328659 [9] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/72959652 [10] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/62505581 I see an approximate pattern: capital cities tend to have an admin_level tag, others tend not to have it. Maybe it's something in use for backward compatibility, such as an with and old renderer that uses it instead of the capital tag to render a label at lower zoom levels. On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Andreas Goss wrote: Berlin Honestly looks like and error nobody has noticed yet. I mean admin_level=2 ? Berlin is a city state which might justify =4, but unless we somehow tag capitals like this I don't see the reasoning behind this tag in the first place. Andi __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
