Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change
but why is not possible to change all the sub_station in substation if the old value is deprecated? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Substation-proposal-approved-and-a-suggestion-for-a-post-vote-change-tp5781224p5786932.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change
It's a good thing to have a look to each sub_station feature. It allows use to add substation=*, location=*, voltage=* and a few more at the same time. Which improve a lot our dataset. If we automatically replace all sub_station power values, we won't be able to distinguish "old" from "new" features. It's not only a deprecation matter here. *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com 2013/11/23 bredy > but why is not possible to change all the sub_station in substation if the > old value is deprecated? > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Substation-proposal-approved-and-a-suggestion-for-a-post-vote-change-tp5781224p5786932.html > Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - fishing
I started the Voting for fishing=* see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/fishing ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change
Hi, On 23.11.2013 11:33, bredy wrote: > but why is not possible to change all the sub_station in substation if the > old value is deprecated? Tagging proposals do not have the power to "deprecate" existing tags, and I have changed the wiki pages accordingly. Using the wording "this tag has now been deprecated" always leads to someone trying to make a mass change but we don't want that. A successful proposal is only the first stage in the acceptance of a new tag. Just because a new tag has been voted in by 20 people doesn't mean that the edits of 2000 people can now be automatically changed. The new tag will either "prove" itself by being used, or it won't. Automatically removing the "deprecated" old version is cheating. Don't do it, at least not without prior discussion and large acceptance in the community. A SUCCESSFUL PROPOSAL IS NEVER A LICENSE FOR AN AUTOMATED CHANGE OF EXISTING TAGS. NEVER. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE PROPOSAL CONTAINS THE WORD "DEPRECATED". Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Tagging proposals do not have the power to "deprecate" existing tags, > and I have changed the wiki pages accordingly. Using the wording "this > tag has now been deprecated" always leads to someone trying to make a > mass change but we don't want that. > It is understandable to avoid mass updates just because 20 people voted in favor of a different tag. However, what the wiki post on deprecated doesn't describe is when is it appropriate to change tags? Is it ok to change one or ten remaining tags to reflect the current tag? Is it a percentage of use? For example, if amenity=bakery only accounted for 5% of the total shop=bakery + amenity=bakery, would it be ok to change? Right now amenity=bakery is less than 1% of the total uses of bakery. The reason I ask is to simplify searching. Certainly in the case of bakery, a 1% error might be tolerable in most instances. However, if the query was from a small bbox, the results could be significant. Wouldn't it be better if we had a policy that explicitly sets a threshold when it is appropriate to change the tag? I am not suggesting that I disagree with your wiki page, what I am looking for is discussion on when it is appropriate to update tags. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
