Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=highway

2013-11-17 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 16.11.2013 19:34, bulwersator wrote:
> "To identify an area of land on which a highway together with any
> associated footways and verges are constructed up to a boundary or
> barrier separating this land from private property." -
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway

In my opinion, the actual area covered by the road surface (i.e.
area:highway) is a lot more useful and should take priority when we map
areas for roads.

Tobias


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=highway

2013-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/17 Tobias Knerr 

> In my opinion, the actual area covered by the road surface (i.e.
> area:highway) is a lot more useful and should take priority when we map
> areas for roads.
>


I agree, but there is already an established tag for it (area:highway).

The definition given for the landuse-polygon seems too restrictive, I'd
ditch the second part "are constructed up to a boundary or barrier
separating this land from private property."
(Because there doesn't have to be private property along a road, and
neither there will always be boundaries or barriers).


cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-11-17 Thread Ole Nielsen
I have now introduced a specific attribute for small substations: 
substation=minor_distribution. It is exclusively to be used on the 'last 
level' of transformation to low voltage line voltage (400 volt in 
Europe). This should address the desire to have an unambiguous way of 
tagging small kiosk-type etc substations. At the same time the 
recommendation to map such small substations as power=transformer has 
been removed from the feature page (except for pole-mounted transformers).


See 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Substation_values


Ole
On 12/10/2013 13:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:


2013/10/12 Ole Nielsen / osm mailto:on-...@xs4all.nl>>

I propose to change the meaning of "substation=distribution" to be used
only on substations at the last level of voltage transforming, thus the
small street-level transformer kiosks etc supplied with medium voltage
(typically 10-30 kV) and delivering low voltage power to households and
small businesses.



IMHO the IEC are right with defining everything below 100kV as
distribution, I wouldn't use this given term with a different meaning.
Maybe you could add another term like local_distribution for the last
level (Trafohäuschen), if you don't have confidence in the mappers
tagging voltage levels. According to wikipedia:de there seem to be 4
agreed levels of power transport and distribution in Germany:

* 220kV/400kV (national transport, also DC)
* 110kV (regional transport)
* 30-60kV (regional distribution)
* 6-20kV (local distribution)

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umspannwerk

cheers,
Martin


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Re: [Tagging] Mechanical edit - Voting - Musical instrument (reminder)

2013-11-17 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all,

The voting is closed now. All ten voters have voted 'Approve'. Thank
you all for voting. I will proceed now with obtaining approval from
the data working group.

-- Matthijs

On 10 November 2013 18:32, Matthijs Melissen  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> So far, only 7 people have voted on this proposal, which involves
> automatically changing all objects tagged with
> shop=musical_instruments into shop=musical_instrument.
>
> Please note that voting on the feature and voting on the mechanical
> edit are distinct, so if you have voted on the first but not on the
> second, please consider voting again.
>
> Voting can be done here:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/Musical_instrument
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Matthijs

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