[Tagging] Luncheon Vouchers

2013-03-05 Thread sabas88
Hello,
I wanted to add information on some restaurants / bars to indicate if they
accept luncheon vouchers (meal vouchers), but I didn't find anything.

These vouchers are given by work employers to be used for lunch payments.
I was looking at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Payment which I think
it's the best namespace to use, I was wondering how to extend it.
For info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meal_voucher

Needs to be described:
- if accepted paper ticket or/and electronic ticket
- what kind of voucher is accepted (luncheon voucher, ticket restaurant):
usually only some brands are accepted.

Regards,
Stefano
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Re: [Tagging] Luncheon Vouchers

2013-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer




Am 05/mar/2013 um 09:19 schrieb sabas88 :

> These vouchers are given by work employers to be used for lunch payments.
> I was looking at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Payment which I think 
> it's the best namespace to use,


+1

cheers,
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Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-05 Thread Marc Gemis
Let me try to clarify this.
In case there are 2 companies stopping at a particular station, they both
might have different properties for that stop: e.g. the names, reference
numbers and zones.

So the zone might depend on the company (both bus transportation), not on
the form of transportation (bus vs. metro). This means that you need to
group those attribute name, route_refs, refs, zones, etc.) per company.

You could either add the company name to the key, create a different node
for each company or maybe use a relation. So I wonder whether it is
sufficient to just add ptv/vline to the key.

m


> When you need 2 different zones for metro and regional networks you will
> > probably also want to "group" the routes (and other information) that
> fall
> > under each zone system. In that case your keys
> > (public_transport_zone:ptv/vline) are also not sufficient.
> >
> > So you will end up with a relation of type zone in which all the public
> > transport stops are grouped.
>
> Sorry, I don't really follow that. Routes are relations. But there
> doesn't have to be a relation per zone...I don't think. You could
> render something useful simply by using zone properties on each
> station and piece of track, for instance.
>
> Steve
>
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[Tagging] Antarctica coastline/shelf-ice import

2013-03-05 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi!

The Antarctica coastline currently existing in OSM was imported years ago from
rather bad and outdated data. And the huge shelf-ice areas are mostly missing.
There is much better data available that can be used to replace the old data.
Christoph Hormann and I are planning an import that will improve this situation
greatly.

We are also planning to do some changes to the tagging scheme for Antarctica
which, among other changes, will move the coastline to the outside of the
shelf-ice. Our tagging is described at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Antarctica/Tagging

More information about this import is at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Antarctica/Import_2013

To not spread out the discussion in too many places, we ask you to please
discuss this on the relevant talk pages on the wiki or on the imports
mailing list (http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports).

Jochen
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Jochen Topf  joc...@remote.org  http://www.remote.org/jochen/  +49-721-388298

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Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer




Am 05/mar/2013 um 13:13 schrieb Marc Gemis :

> So the zone might depend on the company (both bus transportation), not on the 
> form of transportation (bus vs. metro). This means that you need to group 
> those attribute name, route_refs, refs, zones, etc.) per company.
> 
> You could either add the company name to the key, create a different node for 
> each company or maybe use a relation.

I'd rather add 2 bus stops if all these attributes were differing...

cheers,
Martin 
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Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Marc Gemis  wrote:
> Let me try to clarify this.
> In case there are 2 companies stopping at a particular station, they both
> might have different properties for that stop: e.g. the names, reference
> numbers and zones.
>
> So the zone might depend on the company (both bus transportation), not on
> the form of transportation (bus vs. metro). This means that you need to
> group those attribute name, route_refs, refs, zones, etc.) per company.

Agreed. As I mentioned before, my proposed scheme was:

public_transport_zone:ptv=...
public_transport_zone:vline=...

(In Melbourne, the question of what to call them is a bit of a mess,
as the branding changes every 5 years or so. I'm not sure what name to
call the system of trains, buses and trams in Melbourne. Maybe it
should be public_transport_zone:myki - that's the name of the
ticketing system. Although again, to complicate matters, myki is
supposedly being extended to regional transport real soon now...)

> You could either add the company name to the key, create a different node for 
> each company or maybe use a relation.

Martin wrote:
>I'd rather add 2 bus stops if all these attributes were differing...

When there's a local bus stop at a regional bus station (including in
the city centre), I think I'd do the same. They're not really "the
same bus stop", they're just very near each other. But for train
stations, I feel differently. Regional trains stop at the same train
station, at *the same platform* as local trains. (Each regional train
typically stops at about 2-3 of the local stations on the way to/from
the city centre.) So I think multiple nodes/areas would be wrong.

Fortunately there is no such thing as regional trams :)

Steve

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Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-05 Thread Ronnie Soak
Am 06.03.2013 03:56 schrieb "Steve Bennett" :
>
>
>
> Fortunately there is no such thing as regional trams :)
>

I learned very early on that there is no such thing as 'no such thing' in
OSM.

There are quite a few regional trams here in Germany alone:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cberlandstra%C3%9Fenbahn
(German link, as the English page is about historic trams. Please use
Google translate)

Regards,
Chaos
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Re: [Tagging] Public transport zones

2013-03-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Ronnie Soak
 wrote:
>> Fortunately there is no such thing as regional trams :)
>>
>
> I learned very early on that there is no such thing as 'no such thing' in
> OSM.
>
> There are quite a few regional trams here in Germany alone:

... in Victoria.

Steve

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