Re: [Tagging] How to map an artificial ground wall?

[Janko Mihelić]

IMHO you should add a new way that only has those tags. You can share the
nodes with the barrier=embankment if you think the top of the wall is the
border between the aeroway and the outside. If the bottom of the wall is
the border, make the aeroway a little wider.

By the way, mapnik renders man_made=embankment, so I use that. I put two
parallel ways, each in a different direction, to map the two slopes [1]. I
don't know if mapnik renders barrier=embankment. Are they the same thing?

[1] http://osm.org/go/0IsjeJtGC-- 

Janko Mihelić

2012/12/18 Enrico Mattea 

> Hi, thank you for your answer.
> As can be seen in the picture, the complex has got an open entrance with a
> service road going through it. There isn't a real gate or barrier to stop
> vehicles, but from the very start of that road the area is private and
> military. Which way tags should I use to join the two surrounding walls so
> that I can properly tag the area as a whole (aeroway=aerodrome, name=*
> etc.)?
> Thanks!
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> Ocirne
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Re: [Tagging] non-trivial color schemes

[Stephen Gower]

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:58:45AM -0500, Richard Welty wrote:
> there). i looked at a couple of dry hydrants yesterday and guess
> what - red & white stripes.

blazon=barry gules and argent

http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Templates/Fields/index.htm

(I'm not serious)

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Re: [Tagging] non-trivial color schemes

[Jonathan Bennett]

On 20/12/2012 12:10, Stephen Gower wrote:
> blazon=barry gules and argent

Barry Gules and Argent? Didn't they split up in 1974?





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[Tagging] Comments wanted: Placement

[Martin Vonwald]

Hi everyone,

Although it is still a draft I would like to get some feedback on this
proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/placement

Please excuse some inconsistencies or missing parts - it's a draft and
not yet polished.

Thanks in advance,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Comments wanted: Placement

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 12/20/2012 04:43 PM, Martin Vonwald wrote:

Although it is still a draft I would like to get some feedback on this
proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/placement


Who is your target group - who do you think would be understanding and 
using this tagging scheme?


Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Tagging] Comments wanted: Placement

[Martin Vonwald]

You have one tag: placement. Its value tells you where the OSM-way is:
* no tag -> in the middle of the road
* transition -> not parallel to any lane
* middle_of -> in the middle of on lane
* right_of/left_of -> right or left of one lane.

Too complicated?

2012/12/20 Frederik Ramm :
> Hi,
>
>
> On 12/20/2012 04:43 PM, Martin Vonwald wrote:
>>
>> Although it is still a draft I would like to get some feedback on this
>> proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/placement
>
>
> Who is your target group - who do you think would be understanding and using
> this tagging scheme?
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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Re: [Tagging] Comments wanted: Placement

[Henning Scholland]

Am 20.12.2012 17:42, schrieb Martin Vonwald:

You have one tag: placement. Its value tells you where the OSM-way is:
* no tag -> in the middle of the road
* transition -> not parallel to any lane
* middle_of -> in the middle of on lane
* right_of/left_of -> right or left of one lane.

Too complicated?
For me this isn't a good alternative for "drawing" the highway as an 
area. This is simple to understand and very flexible. It's not useful to 
have more or less two ways of tagging. Maybe you could explain, why it 
is useful ?


Henning


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Re: [Tagging] Comments wanted: Placement

[Pieren]

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Henning Scholland  wrote:

> For me this isn't a good alternative for "drawing" the highway as an area.
> This is simple to understand and very flexible. It's not useful to have more
> or less two ways of tagging. Maybe you could explain, why it is useful ?

The wiki says:
"Note on renderers: When speaking of renderers keep in mind that each
navigational device is also a renderer, and - especially if a lane
assist is provided - one with very high zoom levels, i.e. the geometry
of the road is very visible and therefore important. "

I guess it's purely for rendering. Why not (like 'label'). But it's
only useful if you render lanes which is something I've not seen so
far (for nano mapping ?). The point about car navigation systems is
incorrect. It does not care about the highway way position (and no GPS
device is accurate enough to determine on which lane you are).

Pieren

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Re: [Tagging] Comments wanted: Placement

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2012/12/20 Pieren :
> The point about car navigation systems is
> incorrect. It does not care about the highway way position (and no GPS
> device is accurate enough to determine on which lane you are).


I wouldn't be so sure about that, professional GPS devices are that
precise, and by combining several signals also consumer grade devices
might be able to get to this precision (i.e. combining glonass, gps,
galileo).

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Comments wanted: Placement

[John F. Eldredge]

Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:

> 2012/12/20 Pieren :
> > The point about car navigation systems is
> > incorrect. It does not care about the highway way position (and no
> GPS
> > device is accurate enough to determine on which lane you are).
> 
> 
> I wouldn't be so sure about that, professional GPS devices are that
> precise, and by combining several signals also consumer grade devices
> might be able to get to this precision (i.e. combining glonass, gps,
> galileo).
> 
> cheers,
> Martin
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The accuracy of the consumer machines varies greatly by circumstances.  I have 
had times it was accurate to within a meter or so, and I once had a reading 
that was off by about 20 kilometers (admittedly, the latter was during a solar 
flare).
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think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria


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