Re: [Tagging] Announcing: website key integrity checking
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 07:18, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > KeepRight, at http://keepright.ipax.at/ > now validates "website" tags on ways and nodes. > The script loads each page and performs a fuzzy match... > a restaurant for example needs to match on name, phone number or address > (any one will do). > > The script also checks for hijacked domains, though this detection could use > additional match strings. > Great stuff, the best of armchair mapping. You do surveys of websites.. Is it possible to download these keepright lists in batch form? I would like to do a survey with paper of some places and then it would be cool to have your error messages available. Bugs: But you don't match phone numbers with spaces in them, at least over here people use these chars [0-9 +()[]-] to write a phone number. No OCR, and no flash parsing. (ha! joking) Could you add support for website2=*? Who reads what you write in the comment field in KeepRight? > The "http error" check could use some help also: many http errors are > transient, which leads to unfortunate flagging of non-problems. Patches welcome? -- /emj ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] different access restrictions for different entrances to an area
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: > I've seen a similar case to the problem you described elsewhere, > though. There's a complex I've been to where only vehicles with a > key/transponder of some sort can use most of the entrances. All other > vehicles have to go through the main entrance, which (usually) has > security personnel. Once you're inside, though, you can drive around > and exit anywhere. So most of the entrances are restricted one way, > but not the other. I'm not sure how you'd tag that, either. Sounds like the ways are access=private, and nodes where the gates meet the roadways (I assume there are gates?) are barrier=gate, oneway=yes. I'm basing the oneway=yes from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Barrier#Examples, though it's not clear to me how the oneway part is supposed to be applied. That should be clarified. The part about "once you're inside..." is, in my opinion, a red herring. Once you're inside, the assumption is that you must have had permission to be there in order to have gotten there. This is true of any access=private road I can think of. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] different access restrictions for different entrances to an area
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Anthony wrote: > Sounds like the ways are access=private, and nodes where the gates > meet the roadways (I assume there are gates?) are barrier=gate, > oneway=yes. barrier=gate, oneway=yes, access=private...and operator=* if you want to get fancy ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] different access restrictions for different entrances to an area
On 10/25/2011 9:41 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: Have you actually driven through the roads, or just verified signs at the entrances? Yes, I have driven from C to A. There are no other signs (and there are no guest areas north of A-B, so there would be no point in allowing guests to enter at C but not exit at A or B). ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] different access restrictions for different entrances to an area
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 10/25/2011 9:41 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: >> >> Have you actually driven through the roads, or just verified signs at >> the entrances? > > Yes, I have driven from C to A. There are no other signs (and there are no > guest areas north of A-B, so there would be no point in allowing guests to > enter at C but not exit at A or B). Can't they enter at C to use the parking lot? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] different access restrictions for different entrances to an area
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 10/25/2011 6:03 PM, Anthony wrote: >> >> What are we pretending, for the sake of argument, that > > As I say below: > >> access=destination > > "Private Property / Walt Disney World Resort Guest, Cast, and Business > Invitees Only" > >> and access=private mean? > > "Service & Authorized Vehicles Only" After thinking about this, if that's what access=destination and access=private mean, then there is no good solution. We should create a tag which means "Only with permission of the owner on an individual basis". That would cover both signs. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] different access restrictions for different entrances to an area
On 10/26/2011 9:36 AM, Anthony wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 10/25/2011 9:41 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: Have you actually driven through the roads, or just verified signs at the entrances? Yes, I have driven from C to A. There are no other signs (and there are no guest areas north of A-B, so there would be no point in allowing guests to enter at C but not exit at A or B). Can't they enter at C to use the parking lot? The parking lot south of C is for employees (and some special events, I believe). All the normal guest parking lots are south of A and B (the smaller ones are for the hotels, while the large one south of Seven Seas Drive is the only one Magic Kingdom guests not staying at a hotel can use). A guest can enter at C, pass through B, and U-turn at the Car Care Center into the main parking lot. After leaving the parking lot he can go back north through the Car Care Center to the areas south of A and B (and head east on Vista Boulevard via a circuitous route), but cannot continue north to exit at C. So for guests the roads between A-B and C are de facto one-way southbound. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] different access restrictions for different entrances to an area
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 09:58 -0400, Anthony wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > >> access=destination > > > > "Private Property / Walt Disney World Resort Guest, Cast, and Business > > Invitees Only" > > > >> and access=private mean? > > > > "Service & Authorized Vehicles Only" > > After thinking about this, if that's what access=destination and > access=private mean, then there is no good solution. We should create > a tag which means "Only with permission of the owner on an individual > basis". That would cover both signs. I think NE2 is close, but I might replace "access=destination" with "access=private" and "access=private" with "access=no; authorized=yes" signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
