Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] Super-relations or not

2010-11-02 Thread Matthias Julius

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:02:37 +0800, Eugene Alvin Villar 
wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Peter Budny  wrote:
>> As far as I'm concerned, the difference in what's required to tag
things
>> is minimal between these concerns.  Therefore, wouldn't it make the
most
>> sense to choose whichever is programmatically the easiest and most
>> flexible to deal with?
> 
> It depends on what the you want to use route relations for. It's quite
> possible that different uses would demand different ways of
> structuring the route relation(s).

I would sey they should be set up that is best for mappers to deal with. 
Software can be made to deal with any scheme as long as there is a
consistent scheme.

Matthias

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[Tagging] communal learning spaces / training areas

2010-11-02 Thread Eric Brelsford
In New York, we have a host of organizations that hold classes but are not
schools of the kindergarten/primary/college framework. Some of these
organizations are free or allow bartering in exchange for education. Most
don't have full-time teachers. Unsurprisingly, a lot of these are nomadic,
but some do have or are working on finding permanent spaces.

Here are a few examples:

http://brooklynbrainery.com/
http://thecommonsbrooklyn.org/
http://nyc.thepublicschool.org/


Similarly, I've been looking at features in Kibera, and there are places
where people are trained in, say, healthcare, but in a less formal format
than a school or college.

For all of these spaces, the classes are short-term and informal. Part of me
wants to tag them as informal training spaces (to avoid overloading
amenity=school), but I'm not too keen on bloating amenity=*, either, by
adding something like amenity=informal_training or amenity=informal_school.

I've also considered amenity=community_centre (too generic), and
amenity=social_facility (focuses on aid for the poor and drug-addicted, but
might adapt to this).

Does anyone have experience tagging such places? If not, any suggestions?

eric
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Re: [Tagging] communal learning spaces / training areas

2010-11-02 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:31:31 -0400
Eric Brelsford  wrote:

> For all of these spaces, the classes are short-term and informal.
> Part of me wants to tag them as informal training spaces (to avoid
> overloading amenity=school), but I'm not too keen on bloating
> amenity=*, either, by adding something like amenity=informal_training
> or amenity=informal_school.

A logical method would be to make Key=education and then have
variations documented there.

Let's wait and see what other ideas are presented before formally
suggesting such a concept.

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Re: [Tagging] communal learning spaces / training areas

2010-11-02 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 2 November 2010 20:11, Elizabeth Dodd  wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:31:31 -0400
> Eric Brelsford  wrote:
>
> > For all of these spaces, the classes are short-term and informal.
> > Part of me wants to tag them as informal training spaces (to avoid
> > overloading amenity=school), but I'm not too keen on bloating
> > amenity=*, either, by adding something like amenity=informal_training
> > or amenity=informal_school.
>
> A logical method would be to make Key=education and then have
> variations documented there.
>
> Let's wait and see what other ideas are presented before formally
> suggesting such a concept.
>

One of the way we have been dealing with the concept in France is to use two
keys
amenity=school|college|university|..
school:fr=lycee|college|BTS|IUT|.
allowing us to keep the compatibility with an international standard with
roughly the same age or qualification while clarifying the exact tag for
what it means in France. Education is one area that is hugely different all
around the world and we have to be careful in introducing a key education as
everyone will rightfully claim that their system is better while everything
is relative.

Emily Laffray
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