Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-22 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/19 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" :
> I see your point... I think the wiki definition of
> landuse=recreation_ground is a bit in conflict with common sense (like
> the leisure=garden was) and it should be changed.


I don't think so. Recreation ground is a term that is refering to
sports, even though it's name seems to be more generic.


> I would say the land where are gardens, parks, zoos, sport centres, ...
> is used for recreation, so it should be tagged landuse=recreation_ground.


-1, see above. Not every area that can be used for recreation would be
called a recreation ground as far as I know.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-22 Thread John Smith
On 22 May 2010 20:13, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
> 2010/5/19 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" :
>> I see your point... I think the wiki definition of
>> landuse=recreation_ground is a bit in conflict with common sense (like
>> the leisure=garden was) and it should be changed.
>
> I don't think so. Recreation ground is a term that is refering to
> sports, even though it's name seems to be more generic.

In Australia at least, recreation grounds are usually pretty specific
areas used for things like horse sports.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-22 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
John Smith napsal(a):
> On 22 May 2010 20:13, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
>> 2010/5/19 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" :
>>> I see your point... I think the wiki definition of
>>> landuse=recreation_ground is a bit in conflict with common sense (like
>>> the leisure=garden was) and it should be changed.
>>
>> I don't think so. Recreation ground is a term that is refering to
>> sports, even though it's name seems to be more generic.
> 
> In Australia at least, recreation grounds are usually pretty specific
> areas used for things like horse sports.

I admit, I'm not from English speaking country, so I have no idea if
this term has any specific meaning, my interpretation is based on
understanding it from sources like wikipedia and my own knowledge of
English language.
Even though Wikipedia says recreation isn't completely the same as
leisure - that 'recreation' is more active way of spending free time
(e.g. sport) than 'leisure' (e.g. reading a book in a park), all tags
relating sports in OSM are under leisure, so I think it's no big deal.
But I may be wrong (it wouldn't be the first time :-)).
Anyway, what do you think is an appropriate landuse value for areas like
public gardens and parks? By the way, you can do for example jogging in
a park, so I would say those two terms at least overlap in those areas.

Regards,
Petr Morávek



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[Tagging] wine roads in openstreetmap

2010-05-22 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi,
I see that there is a feature suggestion for adding wine roads on the map.

How should that be done? Is tourism=wine_road ok? Should roads be
added into a new relation?

I see only that Slovenians are talking about this, but still there is
no suggestion on what tags to use:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_Trails_In_Slovenia#Tourism

Does anybody tag wine roads? How?

Thank you.

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Re: [Tagging] wine roads in openstreetmap

2010-05-22 Thread Liz
On Sun, 23 May 2010, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> I see that there is a feature suggestion for adding wine roads on the map.
> 
> How should that be done? Is tourism=wine_road ok? Should roads be
> added into a new relation?
> 
> I see only that Slovenians are talking about this, but still there is
> no suggestion on what tags to use:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_Trails_In_Slovenia#Tourism
> 
> Does anybody tag wine roads? How?
> 
> Thank you.
Not sure that my interpretation is correct.
I think that you have routes through wine growing / making areas which take 
tourists to the wineries.
This is not the only purpose of the physical roads.

If so, then a relation would be a sensible suggestion
I think we have used relation for "Tourist Route" in Australia.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Garden specification)

2010-05-22 Thread John Smith
2010/5/23 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" :
>> In Australia at least, recreation grounds are usually pretty specific
>> areas used for things like horse sports.
>
> Even though Wikipedia says recreation isn't completely the same as

recreation ground and recreation are 2 different things, just like a
park and a soccer field are 2 different things even if you can play
soccer in a park.

> Anyway, what do you think is an appropriate landuse value for areas like
> public gardens and parks? By the way, you can do for example jogging in

What's wrong with the current tags?

leisure=park
leisure=garden

add access=public if you want it to be explicit as to who can access them.

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Re: [Tagging] wine roads in openstreetmap

2010-05-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 May 2010 08:24, Liz  wrote:
> If so, then a relation would be a sensible suggestion
> I think we have used relation for "Tourist Route" in Australia.

Tourist routes aren't only used for winery tours, maybe there needs to
be a note or some other tag to indicate what the tourist route primary
purpose is for?

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