Re: [Tagging] opening hours

2010-02-23 Thread Tobias Knerr
John Smith wrote:
> Well opening_hours already covers months, and this is nerd speak so it would 
> be:
> 
> We[-1] 19:00-21:00 Aug
> 
> Aug - 1 Wednesday = last wednesday in July...

Maybe I'm used to a different dialect of nerd speak, but I'd intuitively
expect "Aug Th[-1]" to mean "last Thursday of August".

On a more practical note, I'd prefer the month and (nth) weekday
substrings to be independently useable (to check whether the facility is
currently open, compare month with current month, compare weekday with
current weekday, compare time with current time etc.).

Tobias Knerr


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Re: [Tagging] opening hours

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 01:49, Tobias Knerr  wrote:
> Maybe I'm used to a different dialect of nerd speak, but I'd intuitively
> expect "Aug Th[-1]" to mean "last Thursday of August".

*shrug* it's how php works...

http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mktime.php

> On a more practical note, I'd prefer the month and (nth) weekday
> substrings to be independently useable (to check whether the facility is
> currently open, compare month with current month, compare weekday with
> current weekday, compare time with current time etc.).

That was a specific example, one that probably won't ever be used,
there is nothing stopping you from using just the day without the
month.

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Re: [Tagging] source:geolocation?

2010-02-23 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Steve Bennett  wrote:
>
> > 1) Use source: to refer to geolocation, where  is some string
> > that is never going to be used as a key on its own, or
>
> Solution 1 looks perfectly good to me. Position, location, whatever.
> If a consensus ever emerges, it's trivial to normalise them.

Yeah that seems to be the consensus here.

Does anyone feel strongly about needing a vote for this, or should I
go ahead and add source:location to Map Features and Key:source on the
wiki?

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

2010-02-23 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Steve Bennett  wrote:
>
>> I come to a road with width=3 - that is indeed "useful".
>> I come to a road with narrow=yes - that is not as "useful".
>
> I just don't understand how everyone can have the same argument, again
> and again, about every new tag or idea suggested.

That's because it's a good argument.

> ... Now, the
> concept of "narrow" ... could be defined by the
> presence of warning signs, by reference to standard road widths in the
> area, or simply the mapper's intuition.

If you propose a verifiable "definition" for "narrow", I will support
it. But "warning signs OR reference to standard road width OR
intuition" is not verifiable.

There you go, the same argument once again - it's not going to go away... :)

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Re: [Tagging] source:geolocation?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 07:32, Roy Wallace  wrote:
> Does anyone feel strongly about needing a vote for this, or should I
> go ahead and add source:location to Map Features and Key:source on the
> wiki?

I've given up on any notion that voting is actually useful, 30k+
active mappers, and most don't care to vote etc, only the voictress
minority bothers.

Pick which ever has the most widespread use and document it.

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Re: [Tagging] source:geolocation?

2010-02-23 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-02-22 22:29, Steve Bennett wrote:
>...
>and there is not (afaik) any way to tell what changes
>were included in a changeset, or modify changeset comments after the
>fact...

OT: Can someone create the ability to edit one's own changeset comments 
after creation (maybe from the 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/* page)? I'd sure like to be 
able to clean up my occasional mistakes. I use these comments to keep track 
of my progress on a particular survey or area.

--
Alan Mintz 


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Re: [Tagging] source:geolocation?

2010-02-23 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:40 AM, John Smith  wrote:
>
> Pick which ever has the most widespread use and document it.

Hmm now that I check again, [1] lists a few hundred uses of
source:position, but only 2 uses of source:location.

Better go with source:position, then.

[1] http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Germany/En/tags.html

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Re: [Tagging] source:geolocation?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 15:53, Roy Wallace  wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:40 AM, John Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Pick which ever has the most widespread use and document it.
>
> Hmm now that I check again, [1] lists a few hundred uses of
> source:position, but only 2 uses of source:location.
>
> Better go with source:position, then.
>
> [1] http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Germany/En/tags.html

http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Australia-oceania/En/tags.html

lists source:position as 2, source:location as 80...

Is there anyway to get a total for all countries, rather than scanning
them one by one and trying to tally it manually?

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