Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

[Stefan Schreiber]

Aaron Heller wrote:


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Michael Chapman  wrote:

 


Aaron Heller wrote:
 


 https://youtu.be/eY9DMn8pgGA
   





 


On Mon, 09 May 2016 00:02:49 +0100, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
 


Well done.
   


Just one suggestion: As VR is a lot about 3D, you could think about to
 


extend the "8 positions" demo to some equivalent 3D demo. Which probably
would be "26 positions"

Happy to have mine used (with usual academic courtesies ...).

   



Thanks, and without further ado, MC_26_positions.amb

 https://youtu.be/RC4ptd9B-NA


Aaron

 


Michael and Aaron, thank you!

Stefan

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Re: [Sursound] YouTube/Google Ambisonics continued..

[Stefan Schreiber]

Albert Leusink wrote:


Gentlemen,

Some more developments I just read about, that might be of interest.


3rd order support(!) on Android:

from https://support.google.com/jump/answer/6399746?hl=en :

"Jump Inspector supports previewing VR video with 1st-, 2nd-, and 3rd-order
ambisonics in a MOV container with uncompressed PCM 16-bit audio. It also
supports audio-only preview of 16-bit WAV files"
 



For clarification:

(Spatial Audio support)

As of May 2016, YouTube supports spatial audio on Android. Support for 
other platforms is in development. 


YouTube Android currently supports first-order ambisonics (4 channels 
of audio). It will support higher-order ambisonics (9+ channels of 
audio) in the future.




Jump Inspector

Jump Inspector  
supports previewing VR video with 1st-, 2nd-, and 3rd-order ambisonics 
in a MOV container with uncompressed PCM 16-bit audio. It also 
supports audio-only preview of 16-bit WAV files.




It actually does make some sense to use AmbiX (even) at 1st order if the 
extension to HOA is already planned, or even  "work in progress".


I also notice that at least one Google developper is onlist. So, welcome 
to surround sound, and to the world of sound fields and (future) light 
fields.


Best,

Stefan


P.S.: Sound and light fields seem to be a quite fashionable topic "over" 
at Mpeg, too.


I am not so sure if the audio and picture/video field cases are (more or 
less) similar. But you can impress a lot of people if you are able to 
talk about "all these fields", "holograms", and whatever else will sound 
impressing and competent.


I just did it, too!  (See above...)  The secret is in the buzzword(s). 
Use the (PR) power of the < field >, not of the worn out < cloud >! 
  :-P






Binaural decoding mystery solved?:

from https://support.google.com/jump/answer/6400185 :

".Download the Thrive v1.0 binaural decoder presets"
https://storage.googleapis.com/jump-inspector/workflow/thrive.zip

What are your opinions regarding this choice of generic binaural decoder?

Regards,

Albert



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[Sursound] Small multichannel speakers setup

[Emanuele Costantini]

Hello everyone,

due to the lack of space in modern houses, I am in need to look for 
small speakers to get on with my multichannel projects, here at home and 
ideally to bring them with me in small spaces to playback my works.

For my stereo projects I have been using Bose ComputerMonitor:

https://www.bose.co.uk/GB/en/home-and-personal-audio/speakers/stereo/computer-musicmonitor/

and I have been able to deliver final mixes matching bigger systems, or 
needing small adjustments. Ideally I would like to expand that system 
but I find annoying they use specific connectors and they work in 
couple, so connecting it from my RME ADI8 it would be a bit of a trick 
to do also because I will need an odd number of those (5 or 7 ?)

I've been scouting on the internet and I've seen few options.
I am intrigued by the JBL LSR305

http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/recording-broadcast/3-series/lsr305#.VzTQ5mbtZE4

being that brand the standard for cinema sound and that industry being 
my main income, I quite like to get that way, but despite being quite 
small they are still a bit big and heavy, unfortunately.

I found the Fostex PM03.d and PM 04.d

http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/products/PM0.4d.shtml#content-3-tab-tab

Which are smaller and lighter, but the specifics are not that great, the 
04.d are better though.

Adam F5:

http://www.adam-audio.com/en/pro-audio/products/f5/technical-data

They look like the best of the range. Obviously to deliver those 
characteristics they have to be heavy, a bit too much and not that small.

A friend of mine has a stereo system of MAudio AV42:

http://www.m-audio.com/products/view/av42#.VzSSzWbtZE4

Which doesn't sound bad at all even if they are working in couple they 
have more standard connections, so I could do my own extensions.
In that case I've been looking at the bigger brothers MAudio BX5 D2, 
slighlty bigger and heavier:


http://www.m-audio.com/products/view/bx5-d2#.VzSUrWbtZE4

I am wondering if anyone has an hint to suggest or other brands/model to 
consider or was surpises by the sound of smaller systems, Bose docet, 
like... ehm logitech? ;-)

:-)

Thanks a lot in advance for your suggestions.

Emanuele


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Re: [Sursound] Small multichannel speakers setup

[Michael Chapman]

> Hello everyone,
>
> due to the lack of space in modern houses, I am in need to look for
> small speakers to get on with my multichannel projects, here at home and
> ideally to bring them with me in small spaces to playback my works.
> For my stereo projects I have been using Bose ComputerMonitor:
>

> I am wondering if anyone has an hint to suggest or other brands/model to
> consider or was surpises by the sound of smaller systems, Bose docet,
> like... ehm logitech? ;-)
> :-)

Well, it was you that mentionned Logitech :-)>

For a really bad (but economical) system almpst a decade old

It worked!

Good luck,

Michael

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Re: [Sursound] Small multichannel speakers setup

[Emanuele Costantini]

Hi Michael,

yes I've seen that page before. I like that idea to experiment and I 
would like to know if there are better speakers to use.


Thanks.

Emauele


On 12/05/2016 20:52, Michael Chapman wrote:

Hello everyone,

due to the lack of space in modern houses, I am in need to look for
small speakers to get on with my multichannel projects, here at home and
ideally to bring them with me in small spaces to playback my works.
For my stereo projects I have been using Bose ComputerMonitor:

I am wondering if anyone has an hint to suggest or other brands/model to
consider or was surpises by the sound of smaller systems, Bose docet,
like... ehm logitech? ;-)
:-)

Well, it was you that mentionned Logitech :-)>

For a really bad (but economical) system almpst a decade old

It worked!

Good luck,

Michael

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Re: [Sursound] Small multichannel speakers setup

[Augustine Leudar]

actually I do. Its a bit odd - but the Audio dynamix atomix v2 has been
described as a mini ns10 translating well to other systems. I ue it and it
works well.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Uprated-Audio-Dynamix-Atom-V2i-Rechargeable-Silver/dp/B00DX788SI

Its also similar to the Ns10 in that it was a consumer hifi speaker that
turned out to have studio use I tuses line in or bluetooth - although
bluetooth restricts bandwidth - it still works well.

Here is a review from Ott (quite faous dub producer and engineer renowned
for his production skills)

http://web.archive.org/web/20150619061917/http://www.ottsonic.net/new-studio/

Its a steal !

On 12 May 2016 at 20:52, Michael Chapman  wrote:

> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > due to the lack of space in modern houses, I am in need to look for
> > small speakers to get on with my multichannel projects, here at home and
> > ideally to bring them with me in small spaces to playback my works.
> > For my stereo projects I have been using Bose ComputerMonitor:
> >
>
> > I am wondering if anyone has an hint to suggest or other brands/model to
> > consider or was surpises by the sound of smaller systems, Bose docet,
> > like... ehm logitech? ;-)
> > :-)
>
> Well, it was you that mentionned Logitech :-)>
>
> For a really bad (but economical) system almpst a decade old
> <http://mchapman.com/amb/hardware>
> It worked!
>
> Good luck,
>
> Michael
>
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Re: [Sursound] Small multichannel speakers setup

[Ilpo Martikainen]

Hi,

What about the tiny  
http://www.genelec.com/studio-monitors/8000-series-studio-monitors/8010a-studio-monitor
A little larger with 4 in woofer 
http://www.genelec.com/studio-monitors/8000-series-studio-monitors/8020c-studio-monitor
  and same size with network and room acoustics measurements and calibration 
capabilities 
http://www.genelec.com/studio-monitors/sam-studio-monitors/8320a-sam-studio-monitor

Best regards,

Ilpo


On 12 May 2016, at 22:19, Emanuele Costantini 
mailto:lamacchiaco...@yahoo.it>> wrote:

Hello everyone,

due to the lack of space in modern houses, I am in need to look for small 
speakers to get on with my multichannel projects, here at home and ideally to 
bring them with me in small spaces to playback my works.
For my stereo projects I have been using Bose ComputerMonitor:

https://www.bose.co.uk/GB/en/home-and-personal-audio/speakers/stereo/computer-musicmonitor/

and I have been able to deliver final mixes matching bigger systems, or needing 
small adjustments. Ideally I would like to expand that system but I find 
annoying they use specific connectors and they work in couple, so connecting it 
from my RME ADI8 it would be a bit of a trick to do also because I will need an 
odd number of those (5 or 7 ?)
I've been scouting on the internet and I've seen few options.
I am intrigued by the JBL LSR305

http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/recording-broadcast/3-series/lsr305#.VzTQ5mbtZE4

being that brand the standard for cinema sound and that industry being my main 
income, I quite like to get that way, but despite being quite small they are 
still a bit big and heavy, unfortunately.
I found the Fostex PM03.d and PM 04.d

http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/products/PM0.4d.shtml#content-3-tab-tab

Which are smaller and lighter, but the specifics are not that great, the 04.d 
are better though.
Adam F5:

http://www.adam-audio.com/en/pro-audio/products/f5/technical-data

They look like the best of the range. Obviously to deliver those 
characteristics they have to be heavy, a bit too much and not that small.
A friend of mine has a stereo system of MAudio AV42:

http://www.m-audio.com/products/view/av42#.VzSSzWbtZE4

Which doesn't sound bad at all even if they are working in couple they have 
more standard connections, so I could do my own extensions.
In that case I've been looking at the bigger brothers MAudio BX5 D2, slighlty 
bigger and heavier:

http://www.m-audio.com/products/view/bx5-d2#.VzSUrWbtZE4

I am wondering if anyone has an hint to suggest or other brands/model to 
consider or was surpises by the sound of smaller systems, Bose docet, like... 
ehm logitech? ;-)
:-)

Thanks a lot in advance for your suggestions.

Emanuele


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