Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-23 Thread Dave Malham
AS you say, great for installations, Ambisonic or not - I could really have done with this device a 
year ago for a non-Ambisonic project! It's a pity it doesn't do 24 bit audio as this would make it 
more attractive still. Still, at that price...I presume the 200 Euro is for the multichannel version 
with the splitter board and two 8 channel boards?


   Dave

On 22/04/2012 20:43, Jan Jacob Hofmann wrote:
I could immagine using it for installations and concerts playing predecoded ambisonic music. For 
permanent installations I guess it could convenient because any of the staff of a museum could 
easily operate it. For concerts it would be convenient for me because I would not have to travel 
with a computer. I do agree that if it would be possible to record on that on multichannel, if 
would be most interesting for audio artists. The device seems to be a lot in development and I 
think if this feature should be requested, I guess it is an interesting idea to let it become also 
a recorder.


All the best,

Jan Jacob

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Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-23 Thread Dave Hunt

Hi,



Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:54:16 +0200
From: Jan Jacob Hofmann 

Dear list,

I was pointed to a device, which is able to play audio-files of up to
16 channels without the need of a computer as a stand-alone device. It
is basically a SD-card player and I wonder, if this might be
interesting for some on this list. The price is about  200,- Euro,
which makes it really affordable. The file has to be written onto the
SD-card by the use of a computer and a usual card-reader/writer,  
though.

The link is here:

http://www.waveplayer.de/

I even talked to the person developing it and he said, that higher
sample rates for multichannel might be featured in one of its next
software-updates, as this would be no technical problem to provide  
this.


I am quite curious what people on the list might think about this
device and if there are even experiences or test results about it.

All the best,

Jan Jacob



Seems like you have to do quite a lot of work (power supply, a box to  
put it all in, connectors to get audio out etc.) to have a usable  
unit. Also you need a splitter board and two 8-channel Expansion  
boards, and some form of display. So, not quite so 'affordable' as  
first appears, and very much for the OEM user.


It's not entirely true that you don't need a computer, as some set up  
commands have to come from a computer. If you want some sort of  
programmed control this would have to come from and external device.  
It seems that it won't loop automatically, which would probably be  
required for an installation.


Interesting though.

Ciao,

Dave Hunt

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Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-23 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
For predecoded audio properly dithered and almost-normalized 16-bit is 
perfectly adequate; I'd be more worried about the jitter from a bad clock than 
about the limited wordlength.

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On 23 Apr 2012, at 10:00, Dave Malham  wrote:

> AS you say, great for installations, Ambisonic or not - I could really have 
> done with this device a year ago for a non-Ambisonic project! It's a pity it 
> doesn't do 24 bit audio as this would make it more attractive still. Still, 
> at that price...I presume the 200 Euro is for the multichannel version with 
> the splitter board and two 8 channel 
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Re: [Sursound] Waveplayer - 16 chnl SD-card audio device

2012-04-23 Thread John Leonard
Personally, for a museum or attraction install, I'd rather go for one of the 
long established systems, like Richmond Sound Design's AudioBox II 
(http://www.richmondsounddesign.com/audiobox-ii.html) 

Last year I replaced an original 8 unit Audiobox install at Madame Tussauds New 
York, that had been running synced multi-channel playback from standard 
hard-drives for ten years, 18 hours a day, 364 days a year, with virtually no 
maintenance. The system now uses the latest version of Audiobox, which is SSD 
based. I've also used Audioboxes for basic B-Format playback (on-board eq, 
polarity switching, matrixing, etc.) with a degree of success. Plus you get one 
of the best back-up  support in business with the designer dealing with your 
questions. 

There are other card-based playback systems out there and have been for many 
years: Warwick Castle's Kingmaker exhibition uses an elderly playback system 
that utilises CardBus memory cards which hold two minute loops and which play 
synchronised multi-channel sound into the exhibition. That's been going for 
about fifteen years, as far as I remember. I re-did the audio and music for it 
eight years ago, but the playback system is still the same as it was from the 
original install.

Regards,

John



On 23 Apr 2012, at 09:14, Dave Hunt wrote:

> It's not entirely true that you don't need a computer, as some set up 
> commands have to come from a computer. If you want some sort of programmed 
> control this would have to come from and external device. It seems that it 
> won't loop automatically, which would probably be required for an 
> installation.

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