[sage-edu] Re: Saving 3D plots
Not sure why it didn't show up at sage-support... but anyway, here is an email from Wayne Decatur about this issue. Anyone (Jason?) know if this is something we can take advantage of in our Jmol installation? Forward: Hi Dox and kcrisman, I saw your post when searching for posts about Jmol for the Proteopedia twitter account. Do you actually need the viewing 'angle' or are you just hoping to be able to open it again in the exact view or send that view to someone? Either way, the recent Jmol versions save that information when you save the state, and in fact you can look at that in the state in the jmol console and save and then reload. The most recent version in fact saves the exact view and data all in png format that you can drag and drop in the application or signed apple. I saw Bob Hanson demonstrate it at UMass a couple weeks ago. It is noted at http://www.mail-archive.com/jmol-us...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg14290.html, although the full majesty of it is not readily apparent from the post. You sort of have to see it to see in action. The goal is to be able to save one file and be able to send it to someone and have them open it with the exact view for which it was saved. But if you don't have the most recent Jmol, look into saving the stare script and pasting it back in and running it. Wayne On Apr 19, 8:16 am, kcrisman wrote: > Dear Dox, > > I don't know that you can do it via Jmol, but perhaps via Tachyon. > > sage: sage.plot.plot3d.tachyon? > > I imagine that looking more in depth at the Tachyon documentation (not > just the result of the above command) might help you more. I am sorry > that I don't know the answer to this, though. > > I am copying this on sage-support, which is a more appropriate forum > for it. > > - kcrisman > > On Apr 17, 6:46 pm, Dox wrote: > > > Hi guys! > > I was wandering... Is it possible to choose the `angle of viewing' a > > 3D plot at the time of saving it? > > > Thank you. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "sage-edu" group. > > To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-edu" group. > To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en.
Re: [sage-edu] Re: Saving 3D plots
On 04/20/2010 07:19 AM, kcrisman wrote: Not sure why it didn't show up at sage-support... but anyway, here is an email from Wayne Decatur about this issue. Anyone (Jason?) know if this is something we can take advantage of in our Jmol installation? We have a very outdated version of jmol. Jonathan Gutow (a jmol developer) has been working a lot on updating jmol in Sage and integrating it better into Sage (for which we are *very* grateful!); he responded to some message about this in the last few days and pointed to the URL that contains his current work. I know he's been busy for the last month or two, but he might have time to work more on this now. I've CCd Jonathan. Thanks, Jason Forward: Hi Dox and kcrisman, I saw your post when searching for posts about Jmol for the Proteopedia twitter account. Do you actually need the viewing 'angle' or are you just hoping to be able to open it again in the exact view or send that view to someone? Either way, the recent Jmol versions save that information when you save the state, and in fact you can look at that in the state in the jmol console and save and then reload. The most recent version in fact saves the exact view and data all in png format that you can drag and drop in the application or signed apple. I saw Bob Hanson demonstrate it at UMass a couple weeks ago. It is noted at http://www.mail-archive.com/jmol-us...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg14290.html, although the full majesty of it is not readily apparent from the post. You sort of have to see it to see in action. The goal is to be able to save one file and be able to send it to someone and have them open it with the exact view for which it was saved. But if you don't have the most recent Jmol, look into saving the stare script and pasting it back in and running it. Wayne On Apr 19, 8:16 am, kcrisman wrote: Dear Dox, I don't know that you can do it via Jmol, but perhaps via Tachyon. sage: sage.plot.plot3d.tachyon? I imagine that looking more in depth at the Tachyon documentation (not just the result of the above command) might help you more. I am sorry that I don't know the answer to this, though. I am copying this on sage-support, which is a more appropriate forum for it. - kcrisman On Apr 17, 6:46 pm, Dox wrote: Hi guys! I was wandering... Is it possible to choose the `angle of viewing' a 3D plot at the time of saving it? Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en.
[sage-edu] Re: Saving 3D plots
First, about my available time (very little), but I hope to spend some more time on this come Mid-May. 2nd, the saving of views: Case 1: the user wants to send the graph to someone else who then opens it in Jmol to see what they were looking at. This can be done by switching to a recent version of Jmol and using the signed applet in SAGE. Then the user can save the view in a .jpg or .jmol file on their disk drive. So this one should be easy. Case 2: Saving a worksheet after the user has changed the way the 3-D plot looks. This requires saving data back to the server and will require quite a bit more work. I think this will require a direct collaboration between a Jmol programmer and someone with significant experience programming the worksheet server. I estimate 2-4 wks of solid work. I will need some way of getting some real credit for the work, if I am to pursue it. Because of difficulties getting credit for scholarship at my institution this translates into pay, a grant award or some way of getting a refereed publication from the work. That said, I will try to address it as I work in my "free" time on the Jmol SAGE interface. Jonathan On Apr 20, 8:29 am, Jason Grout wrote: > On 04/20/2010 07:19 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > Not sure why it didn't show up at sage-support... but anyway, here is > > an email from Wayne Decatur about this issue. Anyone (Jason?) know if > > this is something we can take advantage of in our Jmol installation? > > We have a very outdated version of jmol. Jonathan Gutow (a jmol > developer) has been working a lot on updating jmol in Sage and > integrating it better into Sage (for which we are *very* grateful!); he > responded to some message about this in the last few days and pointed to > the URL that contains his current work. > > I know he's been busy for the last month or two, but he might have time > to work more on this now. > > I've CCd Jonathan. > > Thanks, > > Jason > > > > > Forward: > > Hi Dox and kcrisman, > > > I saw your post when searching for posts about Jmol for the > > Proteopedia twitter account. > > > Do you actually need the viewing 'angle' or are you just hoping to be > > able to open it again in the exact view or send that view to someone? > > > Either way, the recent Jmol versions save that information when you > > save the state, and in fact you can look at that in the state in the > > jmol console and save and then reload. The most recent version in fact > > saves the exact view and data all in png format that you can drag and > > drop in the application or signed apple. I saw Bob Hanson demonstrate > > it at UMass a couple weeks ago. It is noted at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/jmol-us...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg14290.html, > > although the full majesty of it is not readily apparent from the post. > > You sort of have to see it to see in action. The goal is to be able to > > save one file and be able to send it to someone and have them open it > > with the exact view for which it was saved. > > > But if you don't have the most recent Jmol, look into saving the stare > > script and pasting it back in and running it. > > > Wayne > > > On Apr 19, 8:16 am, kcrisman wrote: > > >> Dear Dox, > > >> I don't know that you can do it via Jmol, but perhaps via Tachyon. > > >> sage: sage.plot.plot3d.tachyon? > > >> I imagine that looking more in depth at the Tachyon documentation (not > >> just the result of the above command) might help you more. I am sorry > >> that I don't know the answer to this, though. > > >> I am copying this on sage-support, which is a more appropriate forum > >> for it. > > >> - kcrisman > > >> On Apr 17, 6:46 pm, Dox wrote: > > >>> Hi guys! > >>> I was wandering... Is it possible to choose the `angle of viewing' a > >>> 3D plot at the time of saving it? > > >>> Thank you. > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "sage-edu" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "sage-edu" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-edu" group. > To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go
[sage-edu] Long Island MAth CONference (LIMACON 2010 at SUNY Old Westbury)
OK, I gave it the good 'ol college try! I tried to compare and contrast teaching with a Graphing Calculator vs. SAGE at a conference I spoke at last Friday. My presentation was entitled "Look Ma, No Calculator!" The only problem I had was, when I had everyone log into http://www.sagenb.org, the internet connections were VERY slow and I couldn't do much This is not a reflection on SAGE, its the poor quality PC Lab they threw us into. For more info, please visit my blog linked to my webpage listed below! HTH, A. Jorge Garcia http://calcpage.tripod.com Teacher & Professor Applied Mathematics, Physics & Computer Science Baldwin Senior High School & Nassau Community College -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en.
