[sage-edu] Jmol in web pages
I thought this might be of some interest to people since I'm not sure how well the process is documented. I wanted to make some vector field plots using Jmol and then put them on a web page. To do that, you have to get the zipped script file from the cell, unzip it, and put it on your web server. The server also has to have the jmol directory with the standard jmol .jar files and Jmol.js (downloaded from the jmol site). Instead of trying to explain it in detail, it may be more helpful to look at the result: http://www.d.umn.edu/~mhampton/m3298f9/vfieldplots.html ...for the lab the students are given a list of vector fields that they must match to the plots. It would be nice if this could be automated in some way, with some sort of "export to html page" command, analogous to the "Get Image" command currently supported. -Marshall Hampton --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-edu] Re: First Sage Education Day!
On Nov 12, 1:46 am, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:30 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > We now have a Wiki page (http://wiki.sagemath.org/education1) for the > > first ever Sage Education Day! I've taken the liberty to add the four > > people who have personally told me they will be in the room for this > > (which includes the two organizers), but feel free to remove/add > > yourself if you want to. > > Hi Karl, > > Clay Math wants a *schedule* with times by Thursday night (Nov 12). > Can you come up with something precise ASAP? I have the schedule for > the rest of the week together now. > > -- William William, Yup, we have everything except for one topic (as noted on the wiki). I thought Kiran had a copy of this... 8:30 Light refreshments available, quasi-registration 9:00-9:10 Introduction, any brief housekeeping announcements 9:15-10:00 Intro to using Sage in the classroom 10:00-10:30 Discussion of most popular/desired things in general math software, and where it is/isn't in Sage 10:30-10:40 Break 10:40-11:10 Intro to Lurch (Lite) 11:10-11:30 Discussion of math and word processing - what works, what doesn't, and state of Lurch and Sage on this. 11:30-11:50 Technical issues of Sage for newbies - logistics, browsers, portability, where documentation *really* is, etc. 11:50-11:55 Discuss lunch options 12:00-1:00 Lunch 1:10-1:55 Specific session on undergrad course, topic TBD 1:55-2:00 Thanks and encourage feedback Please let me know if this part ends up on the claymath website, as it would be good to have a direct link there for advertising. You will note that we already have one person coming who is not otherwise affiliated with the program, before any formal advertising has taken place! - kcrisman --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-edu] Re: Fwd: Unsigned GeoGebra Applets
> I am interested, although I don't have a lot of time...just last week, I > downloaded GeoGebra for the very first time, and in maybe 45 minutes of > goofing around and reading documentation on the internet, made this: > > http://mathsci.kaist.ac.kr/~drake/complex_cosine.html > > (Try double-clicking on the applet to open up a full-fledged GeoGebra > editor!) > > GeoGebra has its limitations, but clearly for some things it is > extremely useful, easy to use, and makes it trivial to put up things for > students. So I'll try it out. Incidentally, for those attending the Joint Meetings, there is an MAA minicourse on doing precisely this. I won't have time, but if someone is attending who will and is interested in doing some inclusion like this, it would be quite instructive to have them do it. - kcrisman --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-edu] Re: Fwd: Unsigned GeoGebra Applets
> > How did you envision the applets integrated into the notebook - on an > > on-demand basis for @interact-like things for specific purposes (say, > > drawing hyperbolic triangles), as a menu option "insert a Geogebra > > applet from list X here", or something more integrated than that into > > the Sagenb spkg? > > For starters, I imagine a command, e.g., > > geogebra(various options???) > > that results in a geogebra applet appearing? Then that could be used as a > building block for much, much more. What do you imagine? > > And yes, I imagine the actual java applet's could go into sagenb at > some point... > > William > > Those ideas make a lot of sense. What would be good is to have some "translation service" that would automatically turn interacts which *could* be done in Geogebra (which would certainly not be all of them) to be done that way, so that the real-time is much closer to Manipulate and jmol. I only know how to create Geogebra things using the GUI, but if there is an underlying text representation that would be great. Of course, I doubt that is even feasible, but even a @geogebra decorator for the notebook which one could use in the same way as @interact, and would have its own documentation, would be great. We already have Java. Interestingly, since Geogebra uses Yacas, we would potentially have access to Maxima, Yacas, etc. - but not sure if it would be difficult to access things like that via Python->Java- >Python. - kcrisman --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-edu] Re: Jmol in web pages
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:16 AM, mhampton wrote: > > I thought this might be of some interest to people since I'm not sure > how well the process is documented. > > I wanted to make some vector field plots using Jmol and then put them > on a web page. To do that, you have to get the zipped script file > from the cell, unzip it, and put it on your web server. The server > also has to have the jmol directory with the standard jmol .jar files > and Jmol.js (downloaded from the jmol site). > > Instead of trying to explain it in detail, it may be more helpful to > look at the result: > > http://www.d.umn.edu/~mhampton/m3298f9/vfieldplots.html > > ...for the lab the students are given a list of vector fields that > they must match to the plots. > > It would be nice if this could be automated in some way, with some > sort of "export to html page" command, analogous to the "Get Image" > command currently supported. Could you make a ticket to do this? And yes, it is very natural to do so, especially because jmol's *primary* goal/use case is doing exactly that (except for chemistry). -- William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-edu] Re: First Sage Education Day!
Thanks. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:06 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > > On Nov 12, 1:46 am, William Stein wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:30 AM, kcrisman wrote: >> >> > We now have a Wiki page (http://wiki.sagemath.org/education1) for the >> > first ever Sage Education Day! I've taken the liberty to add the four >> > people who have personally told me they will be in the room for this >> > (which includes the two organizers), but feel free to remove/add >> > yourself if you want to. >> >> Hi Karl, >> >> Clay Math wants a *schedule* with times by Thursday night (Nov 12). >> Can you come up with something precise ASAP? I have the schedule for >> the rest of the week together now. >> >> -- William > > William, > > Yup, we have everything except for one topic (as noted on the wiki). > I thought Kiran had a copy of this... > > 8:30 Light refreshments available, quasi-registration > > 9:00-9:10 Introduction, any brief housekeeping announcements > > 9:15-10:00 Intro to using Sage in the classroom > > 10:00-10:30 Discussion of most popular/desired things in general math > software, and where it is/isn't in Sage > > 10:30-10:40 Break > > 10:40-11:10 Intro to Lurch (Lite) > > 11:10-11:30 Discussion of math and word processing - what works, what > doesn't, and state of Lurch and Sage on this. > > 11:30-11:50 Technical issues of Sage for newbies - logistics, > browsers, portability, where documentation *really* is, etc. > > 11:50-11:55 Discuss lunch options > > 12:00-1:00 Lunch > > 1:10-1:55 Specific session on undergrad course, topic TBD > > 1:55-2:00 Thanks and encourage feedback > > Please let me know if this part ends up on the claymath website, as it > would be good to have a direct link there for advertising. You will > note that we already have one person coming who is not otherwise > affiliated with the program, before any formal advertising has taken > place! > > - kcrisman > > > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-edu] Re: Jmol in web pages
OK, that is now http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7445. I won't be authoring a solution any time real soon but I am happy to help if someone else takes a stab at it. -Marshall On Nov 12, 10:49 am, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:16 AM, mhampton wrote: > > > I thought this might be of some interest to people since I'm not sure > > how well the process is documented. > > > I wanted to make some vector field plots using Jmol and then put them > > on a web page. To do that, you have to get the zipped script file > > from the cell, unzip it, and put it on your web server. The server > > also has to have the jmol directory with the standard jmol .jar files > > and Jmol.js (downloaded from the jmol site). > > > Instead of trying to explain it in detail, it may be more helpful to > > look at the result: > > >http://www.d.umn.edu/~mhampton/m3298f9/vfieldplots.html > > > ...for the lab the students are given a list of vector fields that > > they must match to the plots. > > > It would be nice if this could be automated in some way, with some > > sort of "export to html page" command, analogous to the "Get Image" > > command currently supported. > > Could you make a ticket to do this? And yes, it is very natural to do > so, especially because jmol's *primary* goal/use case is doing exactly > that (except for chemistry). > > -- William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-edu] Re: Jmol in web pages
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:16 AM, mhampton wrote: > > I thought this might be of some interest to people since I'm not sure > how well the process is documented. > > I wanted to make some vector field plots using Jmol and then put them > on a web page. To do that, you have to get the zipped script file > from the cell, unzip it, and put it on your web server. The server > also has to have the jmol directory with the standard jmol .jar files > and Jmol.js (downloaded from the jmol site). > > Instead of trying to explain it in detail, it may be more helpful to > look at the result: > > http://www.d.umn.edu/~mhampton/m3298f9/vfieldplots.html Wow!! > > ...for the lab the students are given a list of vector fields that > they must match to the plots. > > It would be nice if this could be automated in some way, with some > sort of "export to html page" command, analogous to the "Get Image" > command currently supported. > > -Marshall Hampton > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-edu] Re: Jmol in web pages
On Nov 12, 8:16 am, mhampton wrote: > It would be nice if this could be automated in some way, with some > sort of "export to html page" command, analogous to the "Get Image" > command currently supported. > Marshall, Very nice! I sent these to a couple of colleagues, and one wrote back to suggest that it would be nice to have the plots captioned (I realize that's part of your exercise). But if the automated production include a "caption" keyword, or a whole pile of explanatory text, that'd be a nice addition. I'll add this to the ticket as a suggestion. Rob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-edu] Re: Jmol in web pages
I should point out that those particular plots are the result of Jason Grout's very nice new plot_vector_field3d from ticket #2646, which will be in sage-4.2.1. With that and implicit_plot3d I am not not missing anything I need from mathematica for teaching multivariable calculus. -Marshall On Nov 12, 1:50 pm, David Joyner wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:16 AM, mhampton wrote: > Wow!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-edu] Re: Fwd: Unsigned GeoGebra Applets
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 at 08:19AM -0800, kcrisman wrote: > Those ideas make a lot of sense. What would be good is to have some > "translation service" that would automatically turn interacts which > *could* be done in Geogebra (which would certainly not be all of them) > to be done that way, so that the real-time is much closer to > Manipulate and jmol. I only know how to create Geogebra things using > the GUI, but if there is an underlying text representation that would > be great. There is a text representation for commands, and also two-way Javascript-GeoGebra communication: http://www.geogebra.org/en/wiki/index.php/GeoGebra_JavaScript_Methods Check out http://www.geogebra.org/source/program/applet/geogebra_applet_javascript_test.htm So we (and by "we", I mean "someone who knows Javascript") can definitely do fully integrated applets. Dan -- --- Dan Drake - http://mathsci.kaist.ac.kr/~drake --- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
