Re: [regext] WG LAST CALL: draft-ietf-regext-rfc7482bis

2020-10-07 Thread Thomas Corte (TANGO support)
Hello,

On 10/7/20 03:17, Tom Harrison wrote:

>>> The question is whether the RDAP protocol should provide guidance with
>>> how to handle overlapping non-unique handles.
>>
>> I don't think it should. A Jasdip pointed out, the definition of a
>> handle notes that they're supposed to be registry-unique.
> 
> I agree with Scott and Jasdip on this point.

I think it's problematic to have a standard like this (which will
eventually have to be implemented by all ICANN-regulated registries)
impose such a requirement (unique handles across all object types) out of
the blue when there are already hundreds of databases out there that were
not build with this assumption in mind.

Sure, a migration of non-unique handles is possible, and we did that when
ICANN demanded a specific ROID prefix per TLD, but that was a minor
change as the ROID isn't really used for operationally addressing
anything. Renaming contact IDs and/or registrar IDs would have more of an
impact, as it would also require all registrars to update their own
databases/configurations as well to reflect the new handles.

If "using a  precedence order" means that a server can choose to
e.h. just deliver the contact when there's a registrar with the same
handle, that's an acceptably lenient interpretation. Otherwise, no
assumption about the uniqueness of entity handles should be made long
after the fact.

Best regards,

Thomas

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Re: [regext] WG LAST CALL: draft-ietf-regext-rfc7482bis

2020-10-07 Thread Tom Harrison
On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 10:46:52AM +0200, Thomas Corte (TANGO support) wrote:
> On 10/7/20 03:17, Tom Harrison wrote:
 The question is whether the RDAP protocol should provide guidance
 with how to handle overlapping non-unique handles.
>>> 
>>> I don't think it should. A Jasdip pointed out, the definition of a
>>> handle notes that they're supposed to be registry-unique.
>> 
>> I agree with Scott and Jasdip on this point.
> 
> I think it's problematic to have a standard like this (which will
> eventually have to be implemented by all ICANN-regulated registries)
> impose such a requirement (unique handles across all object types)
> out of the blue when there are already hundreds of databases out
> there that were not build with this assumption in mind.

Entity identifiers aren't RDAP 'entry points', though, in that there
are no guarantees that you can take an identifier from some other
context and construct a usable query like
'https://rdap.example.net/entity/$identifier' (putting RFC 8521 object
tags to one side), so it's not clear that it actually imposes this
requirement.  For example, it's open to an implementor to prefix their
existing identifiers with strings describing the underlying object
types, in order to construct unique entity handles.

-Tom

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[regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai-00.txt

2020-10-07 Thread Dmitry Belyavsky
Dear colleagues,

This is an initial version of the IETF draft allowing usage of
Internationalized Email Addresses in the EPP protocol.

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A new version of I-D, draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Dmitry Belyavskiy and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:   draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai
Revision:   00
Title:  Use of Internationalized Email Addresses in EPP protocol
Document date:  2020-10-07
Group:  Individual Submission
Pages:  4
URL:https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai-00.txt
Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai/
Htmlized:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai
Htmlized:   https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai-00


Abstract:
   This document permits usage of Internationalized Email Addresses in
   the EPP protocol.

   TO BE REMOVED on turning to RFC: The document is edited in the
   dedicated github repo [1].  Please send your submissions via GitHub.




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