Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees-03.txt

2017-05-02 Thread Thomas Corte
James,

On 2017-04-28 22:55, Gould, James wrote:

> Thomas,
> 
> I’m sorry, I missed the existence of a reason under the command since I
> thought the “avail” attribute and the reason element moved from the
> command level to the object level.  My main concern with providing a
> highly feature rich fee extension to the domain check is ensuring that
> the domain check continues to meet the performance requirements, and
> that we don’t start down the path of creating extension upon extension
> of the domain check that will transition it into a domain “everything”
> command.

True, that should be avoided. On the other hand, the currently defined
functionality (even without a fast fail) IMO still closely relates to
checking a domain's availability, in that it merely provides more
information about the precise circumstances in which the domain is
available (as long the correct fees or the correct launch phases are
used), or why it is not available.

As for the performance impact, I'm not overly concerned with that,
especially since the server can avoid any fee-related efforts if the fee
extension is not specified in the  command. As long as a
"plain" check command still completes fast enough to meet e.g. ICANN's
gTLD SLAs, there should be no problem (otherwise, both options #1 and #2
are out of the question). I wouldn't expect ICANN's monitoring nodes to
use the fee extension for their measurements.
Also, the fast fail you're describing for option #1 wouldn't even save
that much computing since, by the time the server determines that a
certain launch phase isn't feasible for the domain/period/..., it will
most likely already have checked some others and would only have to
discard that information. I'd rather provide it to the registrar in that
case, or at least put wording in the draft that allows the server to do
so. Overall, there seems to be a

I'm not a fan of option #3 since the  command IMO should
not return anything but an "object does not exist" error when a
non-existing domain is queries.

So I'd still prefer my original suggestion, i.e., to allow a "mixed"
result (commands with fees and without) within a  element, and to
let avail on the  element be "true" as long as at least one nested
command contains fees, i.e. signals the name's availability.

This is essentially your option #2, but without introducing a dedicated
"fee check command form" (though I wouldn't be opposed of that; it's
just that I'd like to see this draft getting into a usable status as
soon as possible).

Best regards,

Thomas

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Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees-03.txt

2017-05-02 Thread Thomas Corte
Hello,

On 2017-05-02 11:39, Thomas Corte wrote:

> so. Overall, there seems to be a

Meant to write: Overall, there seems to be a high demand among
registrars for conveniently obtain comprehensive information about how
exactly a certain domain name may be registered, and the 
command (as currently defined) seems very suited for that purpose.

Best regards,

Thomas

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