[RE-wrenches] AES RACK MOUNT

2024-07-17 Thread Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches 
Greetings, 
Whose using the new Discover 
Rack mounted batteries?
They look like the EG4 line up 
Pros and Cons ?
Thanks 


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All Solar, Inc.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] AES RACK MOUNT

2024-07-17 Thread Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches 
I am. EG4=Yugo and AES=Mercedes.

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> Greetings,
> Whose using the new Discover
> Rack mounted batteries?
> They look like the EG4 line up
> Pros and Cons ?
> Thanks
>
>
> Jeremy Rodriguez
> Solar Installation / Design
> All Solar, Inc.
> 1453 M St.
> Penrose Colorado 81240
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Re: [RE-wrenches] AES RACK MOUNT

2024-07-17 Thread Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches 
Michael,
What do you use to make your evaluation of AES in specific and varying
brands of Lithium batteries in general?
Thanks
Howie
Sun Catcher


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> I am. EG4=Yugo and AES=Mercedes.
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 5:58 AM Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>> Whose using the new Discover
>> Rack mounted batteries?
>> They look like the EG4 line up
>> Pros and Cons ?
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Jeremy Rodriguez
>> Solar Installation / Design
>> All Solar, Inc.
>> 1453 M St.
>> Penrose Colorado 81240
>>
>> Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] PVC shingles

2024-07-17 Thread pieter offgridenterprises.org via RE-wrenches 
We have installed a few systems on facilities with the type of roofing you are 
describing. These roofs have to be treated carefully, my advice is to consult 
with the roofing manufacturer and use a manufacturer approved system. 
Additionally these type of roofs can be very slippery so be sure to use every 
safety precaution.
Pieter Huebner
Project Manager
Off grid Enterprises

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Subject: [RE-wrenches] PVC shingles

Hello,

I am installing an array on a roof which has, I believe, pvc shingles formed to 
look like fake slate. I did a test pilot drill, and it definitely works like 
pvc.

I think using standard L-foot flashing should be fine to tuck under them, and 
lag into the rafters as usual, unless there is something I'm missing.

Any experience or comments shared would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: [RE-wrenches] AES RACK MOUNT

2024-07-17 Thread Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches 
Well, I've only used Discover, Simplifi, EG4, and Fortress. Many, many
hundreds of Discover AES and DL Pros. They just work. I like to take things
apart and the build quality is impressive. I mean really impressive. That
was what I meant by the vehicle comparison. Closed loop perfection. I can
talk to people at Discover who know their product and have a deep
background in off-grid. And Discover came through like no other with the
"Battery Incident" which by the way I need to point out, the battery itself
didn't explode, it leaked gases that combusted and exploded. Simplifi,
lot's of issues. Fortress, issues and hassles getting resolution. And
EG4's, well I've ranted here before about them, low quality product and
crap retailer. As a professional, I'm going to install the highest quality,
professional grade equipment I can. So to answer your question, my
evaluation method is empirically driven.

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> Michael,
> What do you use to make your evaluation of AES in specific and varying
> brands of Lithium batteries in general?
> Thanks
> Howie
> Sun Catcher
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 9:55 AM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> I am. EG4=Yugo and AES=Mercedes.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 5:58 AM Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Whose using the new Discover
>>> Rack mounted batteries?
>>> They look like the EG4 line up
>>> Pros and Cons ?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeremy Rodriguez
>>> Solar Installation / Design
>>> All Solar, Inc.
>>> 1453 M St.
>>> Penrose Colorado 81240
>>>
>>> Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] AES RACK MOUNT

2024-07-17 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches 
Awesome reliability on the AES 6650's we use with XW. Super easy 
installation.
The cons on the new racks are that they are more work to install 
compared to the 6650. Two ways to install with Schneider though. 
Discover has said they will automate with the internet the install soon.


I would not compare with EG4 as I do not know who is the deep pocket 
there with them and they are new on the scene.


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On 2024-07-17 5:58 am, Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches wrote:


Greetings,
Whose using the new Discover
Rack mounted batteries?
They look like the EG4 line up
Pros and Cons ?
Thanks

Jeremy Rodriguez
Solar Installation / Design
All Solar, Inc.
1453 M St.
Penrose Colorado 81240

Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] AES RACK MOUNT

2024-07-17 Thread Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches 
Because I work mostly alone, I'm digging the rack mounts. Dealing with 200
lb batteries takes me so much time, from receiving, loading, unloading,
schlepping, and mounting Egyptian style.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 8:19 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
 wrote:

> Awesome reliability on the AES 6650's we use with XW. Super easy
> installation.
> The cons on the new racks are that they are more work to install compared
> to the 6650. Two ways to install with Schneider though. Discover has said
> they will automate with the internet the install soon.
>
>
> I would not compare with EG4 as I do not know who is the deep pocket there
> with them and they are new on the scene.
>
>
>
> *Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
> "we go where powerlines don't"
>https://offgridsolar1.com/ 
>   
> e-mail  offgridso...@sti.net 
> text 209 813 0060*
>
>
> On 2024-07-17 5:58 am, Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches wrote:
>
> Greetings,
> Whose using the new Discover
> Rack mounted batteries?
> They look like the EG4 line up
> Pros and Cons ?
> Thanks
>
>
> Jeremy Rodriguez
> Solar Installation / Design
> All Solar, Inc.
> 1453 M St.
> Penrose Colorado 81240
>
> Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] AES RACK MOUNT

2024-07-17 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches 
Yes I really like the rack mounts I’m curious about the AES mounts and others that don’t have an enclosure. How does code deal with that?  ThxJayOn Jul 17, 2024, at 9:28 AM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches  wrote:Because I work mostly alone, I'm digging the rack mounts. Dealing with 200 lb batteries takes me so much time, from receiving, loading, unloading, schlepping, and mounting Egyptian style. On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 8:19 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches  wrote:
Awesome reliability on the AES 6650's we use with XW. Super easy installation.
The cons on the new racks are that they are more work to install compared to the 6650. Two ways to install with Schneider though. Discover has said they will automate with the internet the install soon. 
 
 
I would not compare with EG4 as I do not know who is the deep pocket there with them and they are new on the scene.
 
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Greetings, Whose using the new Discover Rack mounted batteries?They look like the EG4 line up Pros and Cons ?Thanks Jeremy Rodriguez Solar Installation / DesignAll Solar, Inc.1453 M St. Penrose Colorado 81240Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand. ___List sponsored by Redwood AlliancePay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.orgList Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.orgChange listserver email address & settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgThere are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgList rules & etiquette:http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htmCheck out or update participant bios:http://www.members.re-wrenches.org


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Re: [RE-wrenches] AES RACK MOUNT

2024-07-17 Thread Eric Smiley via RE-wrenches 
If you want UL9540, the AES rackmount has to be in the Slimline enclosure.

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> Yes I really like the rack mounts
>
> I’m curious about the AES mounts and others that don’t have an enclosure.
> How does code deal with that?
>
> Thx
> Jay
>
> On Jul 17, 2024, at 9:28 AM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
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> 
> Because I work mostly alone, I'm digging the rack mounts. Dealing with 200
> lb batteries takes me so much time, from receiving, loading, unloading,
> schlepping, and mounting Egyptian style.
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 8:19 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via
> RE-wrenches  wrote:
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>> Awesome reliability on the AES 6650's we use with XW. Super easy
>> installation.
>> The cons on the new racks are that they are more work to install compared
>> to the 6650. Two ways to install with Schneider though. Discover has said
>> they will automate with the internet the install soon.
>>
>>
>> I would not compare with EG4 as I do not know who is the deep pocket
>> there with them and they are new on the scene.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
>> "we go where powerlines don't"
>>https://offgridsolar1.com/ 
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>> On 2024-07-17 5:58 am, Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches wrote:
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>> Greetings,
>> Whose using the new Discover
>> Rack mounted batteries?
>> They look like the EG4 line up
>> Pros and Cons ?
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Jeremy Rodriguez
>> Solar Installation / Design
>> All Solar, Inc.
>> 1453 M St.
>> Penrose Colorado 81240
>>
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[RE-wrenches] Radian overtemp

2024-07-17 Thread Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches 
Is there a temp sensor that may be at fault for not sending a fan run
signal to one of the power boards on a Radian 8k? One side doesn't start
the fan, fan tests fine, just no voltage on the plug.

Thanks
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[RE-wrenches] just had a thought

2024-07-17 Thread Peter Giroux via RE-wrenches 
Wrenchers, hope this does not get me booted but we need a little humor

 

Just saw a google maps shot of the fairgrounds where Trump spoke this week.
I noticed the roof that the shooter was on faces due south. If they had only
put solar on that roof the guy could not have climbed up to take his shot.
Lesson learned. Might be time to approach those fairground folks about
solar.

 

peter

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[RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark with 800A Service

2024-07-17 Thread Chris Sparadeo via RE-wrenches 
Hey there wrenchers,

I am working on a larger project with 6 Sol-Ark 15K units and an 800A
service. The main service conductors are 3 parallel runs of 400 kcmil. I am
wondering how to CT these conductors from the master inverter. Sol Ark tech
support has not been very helpful so far. I have the included 300A CTs
and I do know that they make a 600A CT, but its physical size and
rating aren't a good fit. Does anyone have experience with either a Sol Ark
or third party CT that might fit this 800A configuration?

Kindly,

Chris Sparadeo
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark with 800A Service

2024-07-17 Thread david quattro via RE-wrenches 
Hi Chris,  I’ve asked them if they are compatible with rope CTs and they
aren’t….   Please share the solution you arrive at, as I know I’ll need to
repeat it soon.

David
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