[RE-wrenches] Franklin Home Power

[Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches]

Does anyone know if Franklin supports their AC-coupled battery solution in
a completely off-grid scenario (no grid present)?

I need to install a demonstration system with ~40kWh capacity to run loads
in an outdoor off-grid facility. It needs to be wall mounted, NEMA 3R, and
have 10kW AC output rating minimum. Aesthetics are important.

I'm contemplating installing an Enphase 5P battery system, but it's not
officially supported, even though I believe I can trick the system enough
to get it commissioned and running in off-grid mode. If Franklin supports
this, that's a checkmark in their column of the comparison chart.

I'm not opposed to a 48V DC battery system with a Sol-Ark 15k or something
like that, but I think my options for wall-mount, outdoor, and beautiful
are going to be limited.

I don't need any generator integration.

Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group
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[RE-wrenches] Sunny Island/Fortress E-vault

[William Miller via RE-wrenches]

Friends:



I am commissioning an E-vault battery array to an existing SMA Sunny Island
System.  Does anyone have any experience with this they could share?



Thanks.



William



Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com

CA Lic. 773985
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Franklin Home Power

[Daniel Young via RE-wrenches]

I believe they do. They also have generator support with programable SOC 
trigger points. They can start either  2 wire start generators, or if the 
generator is existing and has a complicated signaling system, you can actually 
wire the Franklin smart module to the existing generator ATS and let Franklin 
kill the AC power to the ATS to force the generator to start.

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NABCEP PV Installation Professional #031508-90
Solar Energy Solutions
Lexington | Louisville | Bloomington | Cincinnati | Evansville | Indianapolis
513-448-5176 (mobile)
877-312-7456 (Main Office)
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Franklin Home Power

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Does anyone know if Franklin supports their AC-coupled battery solution in a 
completely off-grid scenario (no grid present)?

I need to install a demonstration system with ~40kWh capacity to run loads in 
an outdoor off-grid facility. It needs to be wall mounted, NEMA 3R, and have 
10kW AC output rating minimum. Aesthetics are important.

I'm contemplating installing an Enphase 5P battery system, but it's not 
officially supported, even though I believe I can trick the system enough to 
get it commissioned and running in off-grid mode. If Franklin supports this, 
that's a checkmark in their column of the comparison chart.

I'm not opposed to a 48V DC battery system with a Sol-Ark 15k or something like 
that, but I think my options for wall-mount, outdoor, and beautiful are going 
to be limited.

I don't need any generator integration.

Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Franklin Home Power

[Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches]

Enphase does generator support as well. Fortunately, I do not need that, so
maybe it opens up my options. It's good to know that Franklin supports
off-grid. I will reach out to them to confirm.

I asked my Enphase rep to run this up the chain of command to see if they
would support this installation given that it's kind of high profile and a
fantastic marketing opportunity.

Jason Szumlanski
Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)
Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956


On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 5:17 PM Daniel Young  wrote:

> I believe they do. They also have generator support with programable SOC
> trigger points. They can start either  2 wire start generators, or if the
> generator is existing and has a complicated signaling system, you can
> actually wire the Franklin smart module to the existing generator ATS and
> let Franklin kill the AC power to the ATS to force the generator to start.
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Danny Young
>
> Engineering Team Lead
>
> NABCEP PV Installation Professional #031508-90
> Solar Energy Solutions
>
> Lexington | Louisville | Bloomington | Cincinnati | Evansville |
> Indianapolis
>
> 513-448-5176 (mobile)
>
> 877-312-7456 (Main Office)
>
> da...@sesre.com
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches  *On
> Behalf Of *Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:35 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches 
> *Cc:* Jason Szumlanski 
> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Franklin Home Power
>
>
>
> *Caution:* This email originated from outside SES. Do not click links or
> open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is
> safe.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know if Franklin supports their AC-coupled battery solution in
> a completely off-grid scenario (no grid present)?
>
>
>
> I need to install a demonstration system with ~40kWh capacity to run loads
> in an outdoor off-grid facility. It needs to be wall mounted, NEMA 3R, and
> have 10kW AC output rating minimum. Aesthetics are important.
>
>
>
> I'm contemplating installing an Enphase 5P battery system, but it's not
> officially supported, even though I believe I can trick the system enough
> to get it commissioned and running in off-grid mode. If Franklin supports
> this, that's a checkmark in their column of the comparison chart.
>
>
>
> I'm not opposed to a 48V DC battery system with a Sol-Ark 15k or something
> like that, but I think my options for wall-mount, outdoor, and beautiful
> are going to be limited.
>
>
>
> I don't need any generator integration.
>
>
>
> Jason Szumlanski
>
> Florida Solar Design Group
>
>
>
>
>
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[RE-wrenches] sol ark AGS question

[jay via RE-wrenches]

Hi All,

I have a client with a sol ark and it doesn’t have warm up or cool down, kind 
of amazing companies are going backwards in their tech. 


Has anyone come up with external fix for this?

I am guessing the internal relay on the sol ark switches closed when it sees 
the correct volts/hz and opens the sol ark relay when it sends the off signal.

If thats correct I  can pretty easily use a delay relay on the off cycle 
assuming the on signal has a time window to allow for this delay in sending 
power to the inverter. 

 The on delay I don’t see anyway unless I use a contactor with on delay relay.

Maybe there is a off the shelf generator transfer switch that has this built in?

Thanks in advance

Jay






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Re: [RE-wrenches] sol ark AGS question

[Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches]

Jay, wrenches
ASCO makes multiple ATS controls that can manage delays latching up and for
cool down. Most of the gensets have are  programmed cool down after relay
opens so its not an issue. Generally on start up the genny connects as soon
as it's voltage and freq are within range.
fun times



On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 2:26 PM jay via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have a client with a sol ark and it doesn’t have warm up or cool down,
> kind of amazing companies are going backwards in their tech.
>
>
> Has anyone come up with external fix for this?
>
> I am guessing the internal relay on the sol ark switches closed when it
> sees the correct volts/hz and opens the sol ark relay when it sends the off
> signal.
>
> If thats correct I  can pretty easily use a delay relay on the off cycle
> assuming the on signal has a time window to allow for this delay in sending
> power to the inverter.
>
>  The on delay I don’t see anyway unless I use a contactor with on delay
> relay.
>
> Maybe there is a off the shelf generator transfer switch that has this
> built in?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>
>
>
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