[RE-wrenches] Magnum Energy ME-AGS-S

2023-06-15 Thread Chris Daum via RE-wrenches 
Hi folks:
 
Any chance one of you has this auto gen start module they can part with?  I do 
NOT need the one with the network option…those are readily available.  Please 
contact me off list if you have one.
 
Best,
 
Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.
406-777-4309 
406-777-4309 fax
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[RE-wrenches] Solar Thermal Expert in Los Angeles Area?

2023-06-15 Thread Kelly Larson via RE-wrenches 

Hi all,

I have a student who is looking for a solar thermal expert to look at an 
ailing system in Anaheim, CA.  Who could he call?


Thank you in advance,

Kelly
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Energy ME-AGS-S

2023-06-15 Thread Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches 
AEE might still have some of those if I remember

Brad.
Retired

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 7:41 AM Chris Daum via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Hi folks:
>
>
>
> Any chance one of you has this auto gen start module they can part with?  I
> do NOT need the one with the network option…those are readily available.  
> Please
> contact me off list if you have one.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Chris Daum
>
> Oasis Montana Inc.
>
> 406-777-4309
>
> 406-777-4309 fax
>
> www.oasismontana.com
>
>
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[RE-wrenches] Off-Grid AFCI Update...

2023-06-15 Thread Maxfield Solar via RE-wrenches 
Hello all,

I'm trying to find information on how to comply with AFCI with DC-coupled 
off-grid systems in 2023... Obviously, there are a couple of charge controllers 
that have AFCI built in such as the MidNite charge controllers and I know about 
Outback's unreliable AFCI in the FM100 ... but I'm trying to figure out if 
there is a way to do this now with other brands or retrofit systems...

There used to be a lot of equipment available that you could use... but Bentek 
discontinued their AFCI combiner box, Ouback's ICS is discontinued, Sensata's 
PVAF-T is discontinued, SolarBOS seems to have discontinued their AFCI combiner 
box... There's an interesting Sandia report where there were testing an AFCI 
combiner that MidNite made, but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere... The 
only non-integrated AFCI option I seem to have found that might not be 
discontinued is ZJ Beny brand... Their website seems okay... very Chinese... 
and I can't find it for sale anywhere except maybe Alibaba.

And now that Multi MPPT charge controllers are becoming more common (like 
Victron's 450V 200A charge controller with 4 MPPT inputs), it would be nice to 
have some kind of AFCI that was totally stand alone, so you could have one on 
each MPPT... one or two strings into each AFCI.

Is anyone addressing this? Someone at a conference this year told me that 
MidNite solar was working on producing something that would work, but I don't 
know if that's a true rumor or false... I can't seem to find anything online. 
Does anyone know of anything I've missed?

Last question... is it possible to use schneider's MPPT disconnect RS with 
other brand charge controllers? It has AFCI. I've read the manual and it's not 
clear if it can function without the Xanbus connection. Of course, I don't 
think Schneider wants you to use it with other products... but I'm thinking the 
AFCI might functionally work... I figured one of you guys might know...


I've spent the last number of years with my head in the sand as far as 
compliant equipment availability because I've been working in locations that 
aren't inspected, and I mount my arrays on tall poles, so there's no risk of 
starting a fire. Now that I'm in Off-Grid Focused wholesale distribution and 
installer consulting, I need to figure out what options are available to 
satisfy the AHJs...

Thanks so much!

Kienan Maxfield
Technical sales, Technical Support

Green-Go Solar Distribution
kienan@dist.solar
maxfieldso...@hotmail.com
(801) 631-5584 (Cell)
www.distribution.solar
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-Grid AFCI Update...

2023-06-15 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches 



* You do need Xanbus and all of the following

One of the reasons I always post here to not use a roof for offgrid is 
rapid disco. There are a few others also. It is the last thing you want 
offgrid and if for some reason you can't find a reasonable way to please 
an inspector, install a system that can easily be retrofitted after the 
inspection. The Schneider RS is actually valuable as it has a decent 
dual 600vdc disco that can be used after the retrofit.


Good Luck!

* 'MPPT Disconnect RS - 865-1036
* RS Initiator Switch - 865-1039
 	* Required to pair with Tigo(R) TS4-A-F [4] or TS4-A-2F [5] for PV 
rapid shutdown compliance (purchase separately)


Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
e-mail  offgridso...@sti.net
text 209 813 0060

On 2023-06-15 10:31 am, Maxfield Solar via RE-wrenches wrote:


Hello all,

I'm trying to find information on how to comply with AFCI with 
DC-coupled off-grid systems in 2023... Obviously, there are a couple of 
charge controllers that have AFCI built in such as the MidNite charge 
controllers and I know about Outback's unreliable AFCI in the FM100 ... 
but I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to do this now with 
other brands or retrofit systems...


There used to be a lot of equipment available that you could use... but 
Bentek discontinued their AFCI combiner box, Ouback's ICS is 
discontinued, Sensata's PVAF-T is discontinued, SolarBOS seems to have 
discontinued their AFCI combiner box... There's an interesting Sandia 
report [1] where there were testing an AFCI combiner that MidNite made, 
but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere... The only non-integrated 
AFCI option I seem to have found that might not be discontinued is ZJ 
Beny brand... Their website seems okay... very Chinese... and I can't 
find it for sale anywhere except maybe Alibaba.


And now that Multi MPPT charge controllers are becoming more common 
(like Victron's 450V 200A charge controller with 4 MPPT inputs), it 
would be nice to have some kind of AFCI that was totally stand alone, 
so you could have one on each MPPT... one or two strings into each 
AFCI.


Is anyone addressing this? Someone at a conference this year told me 
that MidNite solar was working on producing something that would work, 
but I don't know if that's a true rumor or false... I can't seem to 
find anything online. Does anyone know of anything I've missed?


Last question... is it possible to use schneider's MPPT disconnect RS 
with other brand charge controllers? It has AFCI. I've read the manual 
and it's not clear if it can function without the Xanbus connection. Of 
course, I don't think Schneider wants you to use it with other 
products... but I'm thinking the AFCI might functionally work... I 
figured one of you guys might know...


I've spent the last number of years with my head in the sand as far as 
compliant equipment availability because I've been working in locations 
that aren't inspected, and I mount my arrays on tall poles, so there's 
no risk of starting a fire. Now that I'm in Off-Grid Focused wholesale 
distribution and installer consulting, I need to figure out what 
options are available to satisfy the AHJs...


Thanks so much!

Kienan Maxfield
Technical sales, Technical Support

Green-Go Solar Distribution
kienan@dist.solar [2]
maxfieldso...@hotmail.com
(801) 631-5584 (Cell)
www.distribution.solar [3]
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Links:
--
[1] 
https://energy.sandia.gov/wp-content/gallery/uploads/SAND2013-5916-SeriesAndParallelArc-FaultCircuitInterrupterTests1.pdf

[2] https://kienan@dist.solar
[3] https://www.distribution.solar
[4] https://www.tigoenergy.com/product/ts4-a-f
[5] https://www.tigoenergy.com/product/ts4-a-2f___
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-Grid AFCI Update...

2023-06-15 Thread bob--- via RE-wrenches 


Hi Kienan

/"There's an interesting //Sandia report 
// where 
there were testing an AFCI combiner that MidNite made, //

//but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere... "/

What you saw that we were testing down at Sandia years ago was a 
Disconnecting Combiner with PV input
monitoring and PV arc fault on every channel.   It cost too much was the 
problem.  It worked well though.


/"Is anyone addressing this? Someone at a conference this year told me 
that MidNite solar was working on producing
something that would work, but I don't know if that's a true rumor or 
false... I can't seem to find anything online.

Does anyone know of anything I've missed?"/

MidNite has been working on a stand alone AFCI that drives remote-trip 
HV breakers and works up to 600 V input.
Look for this generic arc fault solution in about 4 months.  I think it 
also has ground fault too ?  They are used in our

newer HV MPPTs.

One of the issues for some of the others was that they used the Sensata 
arc fault sensor components and for some reason they stopped making those.


🌜boB🌛


On 6/15/2023 10:31 AM, Maxfield Solar via RE-wrenches wrote:

Hello all,

I'm trying to find information on how to comply with AFCI with 
DC-coupled off-grid systems in 2023... Obviously, there are a couple 
of charge controllers that have AFCI built in such as the MidNite 
charge controllers and I know about Outback's unreliable AFCI in the 
FM100 ... but I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to do this 
now with other brands or retrofit systems...


There used to be a lot of equipment available that you could use... 
but Bentek discontinued their AFCI combiner box, Ouback's ICS is 
discontinued, Sensata's PVAF-T is discontinued, SolarBOS seems to have 
discontinued their AFCI combiner box... There's an interesting Sandia 
report 
 where 
there were testing an AFCI combiner that MidNite made, but it doesn't 
seem to be available anywhere... The only non-integrated AFCI option I 
seem to have found that might not be discontinued is ZJ Beny brand... 
Their website seems okay... very Chinese... and I can't find it for 
sale anywhere except maybe Alibaba.


And now that Multi MPPT charge controllers are becoming more common 
(like Victron's 450V 200A charge controller with 4 MPPT inputs), it 
would be nice to have some kind of AFCI that was totally stand alone, 
so you could have one on each MPPT... one or two strings into each AFCI.


Is anyone addressing this? Someone at a conference this year told me 
that MidNite solar was working on producing something that would work, 
but I don't know if that's a true rumor or false... I can't seem to 
find anything online. Does anyone know of anything I've missed?


Last question... is it possible to use schneider's MPPT disconnect RS 
with other brand charge controllers? It has AFCI. I've read the manual 
and it's not clear if it can function without the Xanbus connection. 
Of course, I don't think Schneider wants you to use it with other 
products... but I'm thinking the AFCI might functionally work... I 
figured one of you guys might know...



I've spent the last number of years with my head in the sand as far as 
compliant equipment availability because I've been working in 
locations that aren't inspected, and I mount my arrays on tall poles, 
so there's no risk of starting a fire. Now that I'm in Off-Grid 
Focused wholesale distribution and installer consulting, I need to 
figure out what options are available to satisfy the AHJs...


Thanks so much!

Kienan Maxfield
Technical sales, Technical Support

*Green-Go Solar Distribution*
*kienan@dist.solar* 
*maxfieldso...@hotmail.com*
*(801) 631-5584 (Cell)*
*www.distribution.solar* 

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[RE-wrenches] Fronius primo fan

2023-06-15 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches 
Does anyone know where to get a replacement fan for a fronius promo 10kw?

Thx

Jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius primo fan

2023-06-15 Thread david quattro via RE-wrenches 
Hi Jay,  in my experience most fans are readily available, you just have to
pull the old fan and get a part number from its nameplate. Or you can
probably order one from Fronius tech support. Worst case I experienced was
on an old SHARP inverter (3 MPPT's), it was supposed to be 3-wire fan, but
all i could find was 2-wire. So instead of coming on when temperature
sensor triggered it, the fan was just on all the time. not great but better
than overheating

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