[RE-wrenches] Fortress LFPs & ENVY 12kw inverter
Hello All, I am sizing my first Fortress system, 18.5kwh LFPs w/ their new ENVY inverter. Or would a Sol-Ark be a better fit? I understand both inverters are somewhat similar. Any opinions from the real-world of installs would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- *Kirk Herander / **kirkh@vermont.solar * *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC* *Celebrating our 32st Anniversary 1991-2023!!* dba Vermont Solar Engineering 802.863.1202 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress LFPs & ENVY 12kw inverter
Hi KirkIt’s the same Chinese company who makes both. Deye If I understand correctly sol ark’s exclusive arrangement with Deye ended. JayOn Jun 1, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches wrote:Hello All,I am sizing my first Fortress system, 18.5kwh LFPs w/ their new ENVY inverter. Or would a Sol-Ark be a better fit? I understand both inverters are somewhat similar.Any opinions from the real-world of installs would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.-- Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solarOwner|Principal, VT Solar, LLCCelebrating our 32st Anniversary 1991-2023!!dba Vermont Solar Engineering802.863.1202 ___List sponsored by Redwood AlliancePay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.orgList Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.orgChange listserver email address & settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgThere are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgList rules & etiquette:http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htmCheck out or update participant bios:http://www.members.re-wrenches.org___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress LFPs & ENVY 12kw inverter
Kirk, I have not tried the new Envy inverter, and at the moment am slightly reluctant to do so, mostly because I have gone all in on Sol-Ark/eVault Max setups for battery based systems and I hate having more and more different products to stay on top of. That being said, I attended an Envy webinar, and on first pass, programming and interface seemed pretty well thought out with the Envy (although in general, I've been pretty happy with the Sol-Ark, but from a distance the Envy looked like an improvement). The advantage with an Envy is the single company so interface issues won't devolve into a guessing game between 2 companies. None-the-less, for the time being, I'm staying with the Sol-Ark... Howie Sun Catcher On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:20 PM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > I am sizing my first Fortress system, 18.5kwh LFPs w/ their new ENVY > inverter. Or would a Sol-Ark be a better fit? I understand both inverters > are somewhat similar. > > Any opinions from the real-world of installs would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks. > > -- > > *Kirk Herander / **kirkh@vermont.solar * > > *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC* > > *Celebrating our 32st Anniversary 1991-2023!!* > > dba Vermont Solar Engineering > > 802.863.1202 > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress LFPs & ENVY 12kw inverter
This is incorrect. Deye does not make the ENVY. Contact me off list if you want to discuss Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches > wrote: > > > Hi Kirk > > It’s the same Chinese company who makes both. Deye > > If I understand correctly sol ark’s exclusive arrangement with Deye ended. > > Jay > >>> On Jun 1, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches >>> wrote: >>> >> >> Hello All, >> >> I am sizing my first Fortress system, 18.5kwh LFPs w/ their new ENVY >> inverter. Or would a Sol-Ark be a better fit? I understand both inverters >> are somewhat similar. >> >> Any opinions from the real-world of installs would be greatly appreciated. >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solar >> Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC >> Celebrating our 32st Anniversary 1991-2023!! >> dba Vermont Solar Engineering >> 802.863.1202 >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress LFPs & ENVY 12kw inverter
Hello, just an onion of an old person. I have needed a lot of tech help, I find Sol-Ark the best tech, So I would go with experiance. On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 11:19 AM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > I am sizing my first Fortress system, 18.5kwh LFPs w/ their new ENVY > inverter. Or would a Sol-Ark be a better fit? I understand both inverters > are somewhat similar. > > Any opinions from the real-world of installs would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks. > > -- > > *Kirk Herander / **kirkh@vermont.solar * > > *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC* > > *Celebrating our 32st Anniversary 1991-2023!!* > > dba Vermont Solar Engineering > > 802.863.1202 > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress LFPs & ENVY 12kw inverter
Kirk Personally I would go with solark that's what they do, make inverters not other stuff just like I would use Fortress for the battery because that's what they do, is it similar sure but why? If it's the same then go with a known product and track record, we are seeing this mre and more and that does not always turn out that well. Jerry On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 9:19 AM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > I am sizing my first Fortress system, 18.5kwh LFPs w/ their new ENVY > inverter. Or would a Sol-Ark be a better fit? I understand both inverters > are somewhat similar. > > Any opinions from the real-world of installs would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks. > > -- > > *Kirk Herander / **kirkh@vermont.solar * > > *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC* > > *Celebrating our 32st Anniversary 1991-2023!!* > > dba Vermont Solar Engineering > > 802.863.1202 > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress LFPs & ENVY 12kw inverte
Kirk, I was going to make the jump to Fortress Envy after the recent NABCEP conference. Seemed like a good way to go, i.e. one company to deal with and about same features as SA. When I went to purchase from well known (unnamed) dist, I was warned away due to unresolved issues with AC coupling. I couldn’t get more info or details - just got pointed to other solutions. I’m waiting and watching to see how they do before I make the jump. I’m not in the business of being front line support for these guys. I will say they were very good at responding to my design questions, but when I brought this little AC coupling issue up - crickets. I also don’t like their “ticket” system for tech support. Frustrating! Jeremy Coxon NABCEP Certified MWBE Sent from my iPhone ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
