[RE-wrenches] 60 Cell & Small 12 V System

[Drake]

Hello Wrenches,

A small town wants to put a kiosk in a park with a video display. It 
would be great to power this with a 60 cell, 255 W module and charge 
a 12 V battery. Morningstar has a product that would do this, but it 
will only pass through 200 W.


Is there a new product on the market that would be economical and not 
limit the module output?


Thanks,

Drake


Drake Chamberlin
Athens Electric LLC
OH License 44810
CO License 3773
NABCEP Certified Solar PV
740-448-7328
http://athens-electric.com/
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 60 Cell & Small 12 V System

[Mac Lewis]

Hi Drake,

A Midnite Kid should do that.

Thanks


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Drake  wrote:

>  Hello Wrenches,
>
> A small town wants to put a kiosk in a park with a video display. It would
> be great to power this with a 60 cell, 255 W module and charge a 12 V
> battery. Morningstar has a product that would do this, but it will only
> pass through 200 W.
>
> Is there a new product on the market that would be economical and not
> limit the module output?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Drake
>
>
> Drake Chamberlin
>
>
>
>
>
> *Athens Electric LLC OH License 44810 CO License 3773 NABCEP Certified
> Solar PV 740-448-7328 <740-448-7328> *http://athens-electric.com/
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 60 Cell & Small 12 V System

[Daniel Young]

Hey Drake,

 

We're finding that the small systems are cheaper if you use a 72 cell
module, then a simple PWM charge controller with 24v battery and the
smallest 24v inverter you can find, samlex makes a 300w 24v sine wave
inverter for about $160. That combo can often come in lower than using a
special mppt charge controller just to deal with "bucking down" the voltage
for a 12v setup. It all depends on the details though. If they're set up to
run off of 12vdc direct, then adding an inverter is an extra expense, but it
can still work out. You just might want to price it both ways to see what
works for you with the pricing and products you have available.

 

With Regards,

 

Daniel Young, 

NABCEP Certified PV Installation ProfessionalTM: Cert #031508-90

NABCEP Certified Solar Heating InstallerTM: Cert #SH031409-13

Lead Systems Designer for:

  www.dovetailsolar.com

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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Drake
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:31 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] 60 Cell & Small 12 V System

 

Hello Wrenches,

A small town wants to put a kiosk in a park with a video display. It would
be great to power this with a 60 cell, 255 W module and charge a 12 V
battery. Morningstar has a product that would do this, but it will only pass
through 200 W. 

Is there a new product on the market that would be economical and not limit
the module output?

Thanks,

Drake 


Drake Chamberlin
Athens Electric LLC
OH License 44810
CO License 3773
NABCEP Certified Solar PV 
740-448-7328
http://athens-electric.com/


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Proposal Sketching Tool/Software

[Daniel Young]

Very nice Jason!

 

I’ll certainly take a look at that plugin. I should mention the 2hr sketch was 
including the detailed roof measurements and placement of all the roof 
obstructions. I’m not as fast as you still, as the simple best case layout 
would still have taken me the better part of 45min to get it where I would want 
itJ

 

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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Jason Szumlanski
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Proposal Sketching Tool/Software

 

That's easy to talk through. We tell the prospect in advance that we make an 
initial assessment based on aerial imagery to show the maximum possible (trees 
can be cut usually, and plumbing can be moved). When we arrive, if there are 
any obstructions, we talk about that with the homeowner. It's really quite 
simple. No embarrassment.

 

The opposite of what you describe is often the case - we assume that there is a 
serious shading issue, only to arrive and find out that tall trees have been 
cut since the images were taken. Some conversation at initial lead intake can 
reduce that possibility.

 

Fortunately, around here we usually have pretty crisp and recent imagery so at 
least we know if there will be an obstruction in advance. Like you said, the 
location and height is hard to pinpoint on a drawing in advance.

 

It's incredibly easy to revise the drawings according to what is discovered at 
the site visit. Usually we will will do an electronic presentation on an iPad, 
then revise the drawing if necessary before emailing the PDF to the homeowner.​

 

  
 

 

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:20 AM, William Miller  wrote:

Jason:

 

Very impressive.  Thanks for sharing.

 

If you do your design from a satellite image, aren’t you afraid you might miss 
a plumbing vent or other obstruction, or the shade from a tree that you cannot 
judge the height of accurately?  One foot can make the difference of 3 modules 
on a 3 row install.  Is it embarrassing to sell the customer x number of 
modules and arrive to find out you can only fit http://www.millersolar.com/> 
805-438-5600

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Jason Szumlanski
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 2:17 PM


To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Proposal Sketching Tool/Software

 

Rather than sharing individual presentation examples, I did a screen recording 
of preparing a model in Sketchup Pro and Layout from start to finish. This is 
me preparing a real presentation package that will be used tomorrow at an 
in-house presentation by a sales rep. I ignored roof obstructions in the 
interest of time, but you can see in the video that I completed a viable 
presentation package in 10 minutes showing the maximum PV possible on a roof. 
The magic happens at 2:25 when the Instant Roof script does it's work. Here is 
a link to the video:

 

http://youtu.be/vs3ypUOe2_c

 

This is not sped up. I did take some minor liberties in the interest of time - 
I would typically spend about 5 minutes extra making sure dimensions are as 
accurate as possible. This particular address didn't have the sharpest imagery 
from Google Earth, but it was passable. I'll be well within 1' on all roof 
dimensions based on my past experience, and a few measurements from the ground 
can confirm accuracy level. I used Bing Maps to estimate a roof pitch of 5:12, 
which is pretty typical of the neighborhood I know this house to be within. 
Google street view is not available in this gated community. I assumed an 18" 
eave, which I generally use as a generic dimension unless I know homes in a 
neighborhood to have different overhangs. This home had a raised entryway and a 
lower beam height for the gara

Re: [RE-wrenches] Proposal Sketching Tool/Software

[Jason Szumlanski]

I think he offers a free version of Instant Roofs that has reduced features
and fewer roof pitch options. I used to do it the old school way, and my
jaw hit the floor when I tried the plugin. It takes a bit of tinkering, but
once you understand how it works you can deal with varying beam heights,
gables, etc. It even does dutch gables and other less-common roof features.
Often you have to do dormers as a separate roof. No big deal... I did my
video on a home with to distinct roof sections that came together into one.

Jason Szumlanski

​Fafco Solar​





On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Daniel Young 
wrote:

> Very nice Jason!
>
>
>
> I’ll certainly take a look at that plugin. I should mention the 2hr sketch
> was including the detailed roof measurements and placement of all the roof
> obstructions. I’m not as fast as you still, as the simple best case layout
> would still have taken me the better part of 45min to get it where I would
> want itJ
>
>
>
> Daniel Young,
>
> NABCEP Certified PV Installation ProfessionalTM: Cert #031508-90
>
> NABCEP Certified Solar Heating InstallerTM: Cert #SH031409-13
>
>  Lead Systems Designer for:
>
> *www.dovetailsolar.com *
>
> Ph: 740-274-0139
>
>
>
> We’ve completed over 310 renewable energy projects!  Check out a few in
> our photo gallery:  
> *http://www.dovetailsolar.com/Our-Work.aspx?path=commercial+-+solar+electric
> *
>
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> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jason Szumlanski
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:47 AM
>
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Proposal Sketching Tool/Software
>
>
>
> That's easy to talk through. We tell the prospect in advance that we make
> an initial assessment based on aerial imagery to show the maximum possible
> (trees can be cut usually, and plumbing can be moved). When we arrive, if
> there are any obstructions, we talk about that with the homeowner. It's
> really quite simple. No embarrassment.
>
>
>
> The opposite of what you describe is often the case - we assume that there
> is a serious shading issue, only to arrive and find out that tall trees
> have been cut since the images were taken. Some conversation at initial
> lead intake can reduce that possibility.
>
>
>
> Fortunately, around here we usually have pretty crisp and recent imagery
> so at least we know if there will be an obstruction in advance. Like you
> said, the location and height is hard to pinpoint on a drawing in advance.
>
>
>
> It's incredibly easy to revise the drawings according to what is
> discovered at the site visit. Usually we will will do an electronic
> presentation on an iPad, then revise the drawing if necessary before
> emailing the PDF to the homeowner.​
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:20 AM, William Miller 
> wrote:
>
> Jason:
>
>
>
> Very impressive.  Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> If you do your design from a satellite image, aren’t you afraid you might
> miss a plumbing vent or other obstruction, or the shade from a tree that
> you cannot judge the height of accurately?  One foot can make the
> difference of 3 modules on a 3 row install.  Is it embarrassing to sell the
> customer x number of modules and arrive to find out you can only fit 
>
>
> William
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: Gradient Cap_mini]
> Lic 773985
> millersolar.com 
> 805-438-5600
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jason Szumlanski
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 17, 2014 2:17 PM
>
>
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Proposal Sketching Tool/Software
>
>
>
> Rather than sharing individual presentation examples, I did a screen
> recording of preparing a model in Sketchup Pro and Layout from start to
> finish. This is me preparing a real presentation package that will be used
> tomorrow at an in-house presentation by a sales rep. I ignored roof
> obstructions in the interest of time, but you can see in the video that I
> completed a viable presentation package in 10 minutes showing the maximum
> PV possible on a roof. The magic happens at 2:25 when the Instant Roof
> script does it's work. Here is a link to the video:
>
>
>
> http://youtu.be/vs3ypUOe2_c
>
>
>
> This is not sped up. I did take

Re: [RE-wrenches] 60 Cell & Small 12 V System

[Bob-O Schultze]

Look into the BZ Products MPPT 500. 
Bob-O


On Jun 19, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Drake wrote:

Hello Wrenches,

A small town wants to put a kiosk in a park with a video display. It would be 
great to power this with a 60 cell, 255 W module and charge a 12 V battery. 
Morningstar has a product that would do this, but it will only pass through 200 
W. 

Is there a new product on the market that would be economical and not limit the 
module output?

Thanks,

Drake 


Drake Chamberlin
Athens Electric LLC
OH License 44810
CO License 3773
NABCEP Certified Solar PV 
740-448-7328
http://athens-electric.com/
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Lumos LSX250 modules

[Benn Kilburn]

To those who have used the suction cups to help with handling these mods, did 
you purchase or rent the suction cups?  
Any insights to share regarding your choices?

I have a 19kw vertical wall install coming up in a couple weeks. 

benn

> On Jun 13, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Corey Shalanski  
> wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> We have done a few Lumos projects down here in the Gulf South, where snow 
> removal is not an issue. Please see attached for an example rooftop 
> installation - these modules definitely end up looking pretty "slick".
> ᐧ
> 
> I would echo August's comment about the rail alignment. The module mounting 
> holes allow for a bit of wiggle room, enough to square up any off-kilter 
> modules but not enough to make up for misaligned/non-parallel rails. I would 
> also highly recommend the slotted rails (don't know if the non-slotted rails 
> are even still an option).
> 
> As you pointed out wire management is simplified with their rails. Wires 
> running perpendicular to the rails can be accommodated by removing one or 
> more of the rubber bumpers to create a gap between the module and rail. We 
> have also used suction cups to assist in lifting these modules to the roof - 
> at 60 pounds apiece they are noticeably heavier that most of other modules we 
> deal with.
> 
> --
> Corey Shalanski
> Joule Energy
> New Orleans, LA
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:38 PM, 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:34:44 -0700
>> From: August Goers 
>> To: RE-wrenches 
>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Lumos LSX250 modules
>> Message-ID: <0159cb59674b658f52fe85632f56b...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We have a complex 86 kW commercial job with Lumos 250s we?ve just kicked
>> off. We have not installed them yet so I can?t offer a whole lot of advice
>> except that the module leads won?t reach each other in landscape
>> orientation so I?d recommend a standard portrait layout. The rails also
>> need to line up perfectly since the modules mount with the four
>> through-holes.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We will be landing our panels in about 3 weeks so I should know more then,
>> feel free to ping me if you haven?t made your decision yet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> August
>> 
>> Luminalt
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Lumos LSX250 modules

[Solar]

This is the brand I have. I have used them for silicon energy modules as well.  
My old man is a carpenter and does a lot of commercial entrance doors and 
commercial window setting he has a different brand, but he uses 8" suction as 
well. 

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/16371733379128622882?q=vacuum+suction+cups&client=safari&hl=en&bav=on.2,or.&bvm=bv.69411363,d.aWw,pv.xjs.s.en_US.SU4soCeLflY.O&biw=768&bih=928&tch=1&ech=1&psi=jLWjU4zHAcmHyAS9-IHYBg.1403237774875.3&sa=X&ei=j7WjU4-PFs-ryATsv4DwCg&ved=0CJgDEPMCMBQ

I know some come with less than sufficient handle construction so I looked for 
metallic type handles when I bought mine. 

Good luck!

Jesse
 

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> On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Benn Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> To those who have used the suction cups to help with handling these mods, did 
> you purchase or rent the suction cups?  
> Any insights to share regarding your choices?
> 
> I have a 19kw vertical wall install coming up in a couple weeks. 
> 
> benn
> 
>> On Jun 13, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Corey Shalanski  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> We have done a few Lumos projects down here in the Gulf South, where snow 
>> removal is not an issue. Please see attached for an example rooftop 
>> installation - these modules definitely end up looking pretty "slick".
>> ᐧ
>> 
>> I would echo August's comment about the rail alignment. The module mounting 
>> holes allow for a bit of wiggle room, enough to square up any off-kilter 
>> modules but not enough to make up for misaligned/non-parallel rails. I would 
>> also highly recommend the slotted rails (don't know if the non-slotted rails 
>> are even still an option).
>> 
>> As you pointed out wire management is simplified with their rails. Wires 
>> running perpendicular to the rails can be accommodated by removing one or 
>> more of the rubber bumpers to create a gap between the module and rail. We 
>> have also used suction cups to assist in lifting these modules to the roof - 
>> at 60 pounds apiece they are noticeably heavier that most of other modules 
>> we deal with.
>> 
>> --
>> Corey Shalanski
>> Joule Energy
>> New Orleans, LA
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:38 PM, 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:34:44 -0700
>>> From: August Goers 
>>> To: RE-wrenches 
>>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Lumos LSX250 modules
>>> Message-ID: <0159cb59674b658f52fe85632f56b...@mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We have a complex 86 kW commercial job with Lumos 250s we?ve just kicked
>>> off. We have not installed them yet so I can?t offer a whole lot of advice
>>> except that the module leads won?t reach each other in landscape
>>> orientation so I?d recommend a standard portrait layout. The rails also
>>> need to line up perfectly since the modules mount with the four
>>> through-holes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We will be landing our panels in about 3 weeks so I should know more then,
>>> feel free to ping me if you haven?t made your decision yet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> August
>>> 
>>> Luminalt
>> 
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