Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery watering equipment

2011-04-01 Thread Joel Davidson
Forklift battery suppliers and Wrenches told me that automatic watering systems 
either stick closed (dry cells) or stick opened (flooded battery box). 
Warehouse operators told me that they operate their so-called automatic 
watering systems manually.

I use an RL Flo-Master 1.5-Gallon Polyethylene-Tank Sprayer from Home Depot for 
$11. It works great. 
Model # 1415D. Internet # 100637818. Store SKU # 367767

Joel Davidson
  - Original Message - 
  From: d...@foxfire-energy.com 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery watering equipment


  I like using a plant sprayer (a new one), with the end of the wand removed, 
and a piece of tape for a depth gauge.. and a good head light.. db




  Dan Brown
  Foxfire Energy Corp.
  Renewable Energy Systems
  (802)-483-2564
  www.Foxfire-Energy.com
  NABCEP #092907-44



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery watering equipment
From: jay peltz 
Date: Thu, March 31, 2011 7:14 pm
To: RE-wrenches 

Are you talking semi-automatic or manual?


jay


peltz power

On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Dana wrote:


  I am currently looking for recommendations on battery watering equipment. 
We have a regular route of clients that  want us to perform regular battery 
checks for SG and VPC and water afterwards, generator oil check and operation, 
control settings [older Trace and Xantrex equip. w/o non-volatile memories] etc.

  What has worked for you, who supplies it, would you buy it again?
  What would you do differently?

  Dana Orzel
  Great Solar Works, Inc
  E - d...@solarwork.com
  V - 970.626.5253
  F - 970.626.4140
  C - 970.209.4076
  web - www.solarwork.com





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Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test

2011-04-01 Thread wirewiz
Ezra,

Do you follow guidelines as to the "rights and responsibilities" of test 
takers. Do test takers have a right to see the questions they got wrong?

Larry Liesner
Wirewiz
Westport, CT
Phone: 203-644-2404
Fax: 203-557-0556
wire...@gmail.com
www.wire-wiz.com



On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:14 AM, Andrew Truitt wrote:

>  
> This is what Ezra Auerbach, Executive Director of NABCEP, has to say on the 
> matter:
>  
>  
> Hi Nick et al,
> 
> A couple of clarifications. It has always taken a month or more for NABCEP to 
> issue score reports on installer exams. Entry Level results tend to be 
> quicker and this might be a source for confusion.
> 
> I'll do my best to explain the passing score process. There is no set 
> percentage or number of correct answers. Each exam is different from the last 
> and is a mix of "field proven" and new questions. We use professional 
> psychometricians for  exam design and evaluation. They work with the subject 
> matter experts on the exam committee. After each exam they all meet and 
> review the performance of the exam with particular focus on new questions. 
> Sometimes a question performs poorly which is to say a very high percentage 
> of candidates who otherwise did well got it wrong. This sort of item is 
> flagged for committee review. They sometimes decide it was a poor question 
> and choose not to score it which is one reason for variance between exams.
> 
> The Psychometrician uses a well established and accepted statistical review 
> protocol that is designed to ensure consistency across multiple exam 
> administrations. They then present their professional recommendations to the 
> Board for their acceptance. This again is standard procedure for "Board"   
> exams.
> 
> In summary NABCEP follows well established internationally recognized scoring 
> protocols that are fully psychometrically defensible which is part of the 
> reason our PV Installer Certification has received accreditation by ANSI to 
> their 17024 standard for personnel certification. We remain the only PV 
> credentialing body in North America to have been accredited to this standard.
> 
> I hope this helps. To each and every Wrench who is waiting for their exam 
> results-I hope you passed.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ezra 
> 
> 
> Ezra Auerbach
> Executive Director
> NABCEP"
>  
>  
>  
> For a brighter energy future,
> 
> Andrew Truitt
> Principal
> Truitt Renewable Energy Consulting
> NABCEP Certified PV Installer™ (ID# 032407-66)
> (202) 486-7507
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-truitt/8/622/713
> 
> <24 copy.jpg>
> 
> "Don't get me wrong: I love nuclear energy! It's just that I prefer fusion to 
> fission. And it just so happens that there's an enormous fusion reactor 
> safely banked a few million miles from us. It delivers more than we could 
> ever use in just about 8 minutes. And it's wireless!"
> 
> ~William McDonough
> 
> 
> 
>  
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:35 AM,  wrote:
> Nick, 
> 
> The passing grade is 70, they don't change that. I think they just wan't to 
> see if any one question was consistently answered wrong and so maybe there 
> was a problem with the question and they may decide that everyone gets that 
> question right. I would guess that rarely happens.
> 
> As far as the six weeks to wait for pass/fail notification, they keep you 
> hangin! 
> 
> They notify you by snail mail, not email. Hint: if the plain brown envelope 
> says "do not bend" on it, pop the champagne, you passed. 
> 
> Larry Liesner
> Wirewiz
> Westport, CT
> Phone: 203-644-2404
> Fax: 203-557-0556
> wire...@gmail.com
> www.wire-wiz.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
> 
>> That sounds about right, a NABCEP board member told me they meet and vote on 
>> the difficulty of each question.
>> 
>> So 5-7 weeks of wondering if you have what it takes to pass.
>> 
>> When you get the email notification it will say "congratulations" or 
>> something to that effect in the subject line when you pass, not sure what it 
>> says if you don't.
>> 
>> 
>> Jamie Johnson
>> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer
>> NABCEP Certified PV Technical Sales Professional
>> 
>> General Manager
>> SOLAR POWER ELECTRIC
>> (941) 380 - 0098
>> EC13001765
>> www.SPEFL.com
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Nick Soleil  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi wrenches:
>>> I sat for the NABCEP exam last weekend, and was surprised yesterday to 
>>> hear that we will not receive the exam results for another month!  I had 
>>> heard that it only took a week.  What was your experience.  Also, the 
>>> e-mail yesterday said that the Board has to decide what grade will be a 
>>> passing grade?  Can that be true?  Does the grade get set to control the 
>>> number who pass or fail?  That doesn't seem right.
>>>  
>>> Nick Soleil
>>> Project Manager
>>> Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
>>> PO Box 657
>>> Petaluma, CA 94953
>>> Cell: 707-321-2937
>>> Office: 707-789-9537
>>> Fax: 707-769-9037

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

2011-04-01 Thread August Goers
Marco - I'd like to see the pdf as well if you don't mind. Thanks, August



aug...@luminalt.com



*From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Marco Mangelsdorf
*Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:31 PM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems



In the March issue of Photon magazine it’s being reported that Sanyo’s HiT
modules may be suffering from MWs worth of failures.



If you’re unable to track down the article on-line, let me know and I can
send you a PDF version.



marco
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

2011-04-01 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Have any wrenches here experienced any problems? We have a number of
projects currently proceeding with those modules right now. Has anyone
talked to Sanyo? Marco please include me on a shared PDF copy of the
reportthanks...Kirpal

On Apr 1, 2011 7:32 AM, "August Goers"  wrote:

Marco - I'd like to see the pdf as well if you don't mind. Thanks, August



aug...@luminalt.com



*From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Marco Mangelsdorf
*Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:31 PM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems





In the March issue of Photon magazine it’s being reported that Sanyo’s HiT
modules may be suffe...

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

2011-04-01 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Me too. We have one project pending with the bifacial mods.

 

Jason

 

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Kirpal
Khalsa
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 10:38 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

 

Have any wrenches here experienced any problems? We have a number of
projects currently proceeding with those modules right now. Has anyone
talked to Sanyo? Marco please include me on a shared PDF copy of the
reportthanks...Kirpal

On Apr 1, 2011 7:32 AM, "August Goers" 
wrote:

Marco - I'd like to see the pdf as well if you don't mind.
Thanks, August

 

 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems; None here

2011-04-01 Thread Starlight Solar, Larry Crutcher
We sell Sanyo but no Bi-facial models. We only do off grid, industrial battery 
and RV systems. No failures and outstanding performance from Sanyo. Too bad 
they void the warranty for mobile and marine applications, though. It would 
otherwise be our #1 seller.

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems
www.starlightsolar.com
928-342-9103

- Original Message - 
  From: Kirpal Khalsa 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems


  Have any wrenches here experienced any problems? We have a number of projects 
currently proceeding with those modules right now. Has anyone talked to Sanyo? 
Marco please include me on a shared PDF copy of the reportthanks...Kirpal

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery watering equipment

2011-04-01 Thread Dana
Right, we operate (2) auto water systems manually. I have been told, IF, the 
valve sticks open it can flush all the electrolyte out and the result is A – a 
mess to be reckoned with and B – a cell full of water or severely diluted 
electrolyte.

 

THXS.

 

Dana Orzel

Great Solar Works, Inc

E - d...@solarwork.com

V - 970.626.5253

F - 970.626.4140

C - 970.209.4076

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From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Joel Davidson
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:09 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery watering equipment

 

Forklift battery suppliers and Wrenches told me that automatic watering systems 
either stick closed (dry cells) or stick opened (flooded battery box). 
Warehouse operators told me that they operate their so-called automatic 
watering systems manually.

 

I use an RL Flo-Master 1.5-Gallon Polyethylene-Tank Sprayer from Home Depot for 
$11. It works great. 
Model # 1415D. Internet # 100637818. Store SKU # 367767

 

Joel Davidson

- Original Message - 

From: d...@foxfire-energy.com 

To: RE-wrenches   

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:22 PM

Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery watering equipment

 

I like using a plant sprayer (a new one), with the end of the wand removed, and 
a piece of tape for a depth gauge.. and a good head light.. db

 


Dan Brown
Foxfire Energy Corp.
Renewable Energy Systems
(802)-483-2564
www.Foxfire-Energy.com
NABCEP #092907-44

 

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery watering equipment
From: jay peltz 
Date: Thu, March 31, 2011 7:14 pm
To: RE-wrenches 

Are you talking semi-automatic or manual? 

 

jay

 

peltz power

On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Dana wrote:





I am currently looking for recommendations on battery watering equipment. We 
have a regular route of clients that  want us to perform regular battery checks 
for SG and VPC and water afterwards, generator oil check and operation, control 
settings [older Trace and Xantrex equip. w/o non-volatile memories] etc.

What has worked for you, who supplies it, would you buy it again?

What would you do differently?

Dana Orzel

Great Solar Works, Inc

E - d...@solarwork.com

V - 970.626.5253

F - 970.626.4140

C - 970.209.4076

web - www.solarwork.com

 


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems; None here

2011-04-01 Thread Darryl Thayer
No problems here, but I have only done a few, one is monitored continously and 
carefully and it is performing well.  






From: "Starlight Solar, Larry Crutcher" 
To: RE-wrenches 
Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 10:10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems; None here


We sell Sanyo but no Bi-facial models. We only do off grid, industrial 
battery and RV systems. No failures and outstanding performance from Sanyo. Too 
bad they void the warranty for mobile and marine applications, though. It would 
otherwise be our #1 seller.
 
Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems
www.starlightsolar.com
928-342-9103

- Original Message - 
From: Kirpal Khalsa 
>To: RE-wrenches 
>Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:38 AM
>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems
>
>
>Have any wrenches here experienced any problems? We have a number of projects 
>currently proceeding with those modules right now. Has anyone talked to Sanyo? 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

2011-04-01 Thread Darryl Thayer
If possible I would like to see report 
daryl_so...@yahoo.com


 




From: August Goers 
To: RE-wrenches 
Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:32:45 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems


Marco - I'd like to see the pdf as well if you don't mind. Thanks, August
 
aug...@luminalt.com
 
From:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco 
Mangelsdorf
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:31 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems
 
In the March issue of Photon magazine it’s being reported that Sanyo’s HiT 
modules may be suffering from MWs worth of failures.
 
If you’re unable to track down the article on-line, let me know and I can send 
you a PDF version.
 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

2011-04-01 Thread Roy Rakobitsch
If possible, I would like to see the article also. We have many installs
with Sanyo HIT. Have not had any problems to date.

r...@windsine.org


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NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer®
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Wind/PV Design Engineer
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631-514-4166
www.windsine.org


On Fri, April 1, 2011 11:46 am, Darryl Thayer wrote:
> If possible I would like to see report
> daryl_so...@yahoo.com
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> 
> From: August Goers 
> To: RE-wrenches 
> Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:32:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems
>
>
> Marco - I'd like to see the pdf as well if you don't mind. Thanks, August
>  
> aug...@luminalt.com
>  
> From:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco
> Mangelsdorf
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:31 PM
> To: 'RE-wrenches'
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems
>  
> In the March issue of Photon magazine it’s being reported that Sanyo’s
> HiT
> modules may be suffering from MWs worth of failures.
>  
> If you’re unable to track down the article on-line, let me know and I
> can send
> you a PDF version.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

2011-04-01 Thread Michael Welch
Just a reminder to all, please send requests and anything else intended for an 
individual to that individual, and NOT the whole list.

If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me off list.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems (now email etiquette question)

2011-04-01 Thread August Goers
Michael -

This has come up before. I'm probably missing something simple but the
problem for me is that Wrenches emails do not contain the senders original
address in a way that I've been able to find it. Any suggestions about
where I can find the senders email?

Best, August

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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Welch
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:08 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

Just a reminder to all, please send requests and anything else intended
for an individual to that individual, and NOT the whole list.

If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me off list.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test

2011-04-01 Thread Bob-O Schultze
Larry,
This also from Ezra -who, because of a bit of silliness on the part of the 
moderator of this list- cannot post here.

"Larry,

NABCEP provides test takers with a passing score and a partial breakdown of 
their score by exam blueprint area. It is always a bit confusing because we 
report only on those exam blueprint areas where there are sufficient number of 
questions for the information provided to be relevant. For example informing a 
candidate that they scored 50% in an area where there were only two questions 
provided little useful information but informing the same candidate that they 
scored 50% on an area where there are ten questions clearly informs them that 
this is an area where further study is required. 

We do not provide candidates with individual questions they missed as this 
would have a strong negative impact on the security of the exam. If we informed 
candidates on individual questions we would have to retire each exam question 
we did so with which would put a huge burden of developing new questions on our 
volunteer exam committee. It would also but a burden on the exam itself as we 
would be continually retiring statically field proven questions.

I know it is disappointing to candidates to not see the questions they missed, 
and if I was a candidate I'd likely be frustrated as well. I also know that it 
is simply not practical to do so and that our procedures are in accordance to 
established and recognized testing protocols. 

Sincerely,

Ezra Auerbach
Executive Director"

eauerb...@nabcep.org

To which I also add to replay to your last post:
You are incorrect that 70 is always the passing grade. It can be a little lower 
or even a little higher depending on the difficulty of that particular test and 
if we have identified any questions which have proved to be unclear or 
ambiguous. It takes time for our testing agency to compile that data. It takes 
time for our test committee to re-evaluate the questions and how they were 
answered. Lastly, each and every Certificant (not Entry Level) testing results 
comes before the Board with the raw information and the recommendations of our 
committee for a final decision and approval of a passing score. We go to great 
lengths to make sure all our testing is as fair and unbiased as possible.
As Ezra points out, it would be HUGELY expensive to have to replace our 
question pool for every test because we revealed the questions which you missed 
to you. Surely you can see that those questions would be widely circulated by 
the time candidates sat for the next test, making them useless.
Bob-O

On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:57 AM, wire...@gmail.com wrote:

Ezra,

Do you follow guidelines as to the "rights and responsibilities" of test 
takers. Do test takers have a right to see the questions they got wrong?

Larry Liesner
Wirewiz
Westport, CT
Phone: 203-644-2404
Fax: 203-557-0556
wire...@gmail.com
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Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test

2011-04-01 Thread wirewiz
Bob-O,

Sorry about the 70. I understand about not being able to tell us what we got 
wrong, those questions would circulate pretty fast, not by me of course.

I've been hard on NABCEP, especially privately to Ezra, lots of frustrations 
taken out on Ezra, but he takes it well, and follows up with thorough 
explanations about policies, etc. and understands my (and I'm sure others) 
frustrations and unlike me sometimes, is always polite. Enough sucking up.

Hey, I can't let you go without taking another shot about that ad in Home 
Power. Even if I pass this time, I will still feel that ad is unfair. We are 
all in the same industry and we are all trying to make a living here but that 
ad hits below the belt to highly qualified non certificants.

Thank you.

Larry Liesner
Wirewiz
Westport, CT
Phone: 203-644-2404
Fax: 203-557-0556
wire...@gmail.com
www.wire-wiz.com



On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Bob-O Schultze wrote:

> Larry,
> This also from Ezra -who, because of a bit of silliness on the part of the 
> moderator of this list- cannot post here.
> 
> "Larry,
> 
> NABCEP provides test takers with a passing score and a partial breakdown of 
> their score by exam blueprint area. It is always a bit confusing because we 
> report only on those exam blueprint areas where there are sufficient number 
> of questions for the information provided to be relevant. For example 
> informing a candidate that they scored 50% in an area where there were only 
> two questions provided little useful information but informing the same 
> candidate that they scored 50% on an area where there are ten questions 
> clearly informs them that this is an area where further study is required. 
> 
> We do not provide candidates with individual questions they missed as this 
> would have a strong negative impact on the security of the exam. If we 
> informed candidates on individual questions we would have to retire each exam 
> question we did so with which would put a huge burden of developing new 
> questions on our volunteer exam committee. It would also but a burden on the 
> exam itself as we would be continually retiring statically field proven 
> questions.
> 
> I know it is disappointing to candidates to not see the questions they 
> missed, and if I was a candidate I'd likely be frustrated as well. I also 
> know that it is simply not practical to do so and that our procedures are in 
> accordance to established and recognized testing protocols. 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Ezra Auerbach
> Executive Director"
> 
> eauerb...@nabcep.org
> 
> To which I also add to replay to your last post:
> You are incorrect that 70 is always the passing grade. It can be a little 
> lower or even a little higher depending on the difficulty of that particular 
> test and if we have identified any questions which have proved to be unclear 
> or ambiguous. It takes time for our testing agency to compile that data. It 
> takes time for our test committee to re-evaluate the questions and how they 
> were answered. Lastly, each and every Certificant (not Entry Level) testing 
> results comes before the Board with the raw information and the 
> recommendations of our committee for a final decision and approval of a 
> passing score. We go to great lengths to make sure all our testing is as fair 
> and unbiased as possible.
> As Ezra points out, it would be HUGELY expensive to have to replace our 
> question pool for every test because we revealed the questions which you 
> missed to you. Surely you can see that those questions would be widely 
> circulated by the time candidates sat for the next test, making them useless.
> Bob-O
> 
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:57 AM, wire...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Ezra,
> 
> Do you follow guidelines as to the "rights and responsibilities" of test 
> takers. Do test takers have a right to see the questions they got wrong?
> 
> Larry Liesner
> Wirewiz
> Westport, CT
> Phone: 203-644-2404
> Fax: 203-557-0556
> wire...@gmail.com
> www.wire-wiz.com
> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test

2011-04-01 Thread Nick Soleil
Hello Ezra, Bob-o, and wrenches:
I guess if I were to pass the exam, and if I could find my results, I would 
be content.  However, I do have a concern that if the test is calibrated to 
achieve a 50% pass rate, that the problems must be made vague and confusing to 
cause difficulty.  Here are my primary concerns.
- The test material did not match the study guide
- The most recent test seems to test us on a number of obscure OSHA facts, that 
do not really pertain to designing and installing solar, to keep the test 
difficult.
- With each test cycle, the candidates are told they need to study x number of 
hours to pass the test, but only 50% pass, so the next group has to study 2x 
times to pass the exam.  As more folks study harder and harder to pass the 
test, 
the test only gets harder or the pass level is raised to keep the same level of 
a 50% pass rate. Over time we have to study more and more obscure facts, that 
have less to do with solar installing and designing, and more to do with 
short-term memorization of unimportant material.
Additionally, I believe that the test contained some mistakes.  One 
question 
required an analysis of two roof surfaces, and we had to find which surface 
would produce more power, and how much more power.  However, the azimuths were 
listed as 'Compass' degree readings, but the provided chart gave outputs for 
'True' degrees.  The question did not provide the magnetic declination for the 
site!  

   

 Nick Soleil
Project Manager
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
PO Box 657
Petaluma, CA 94953
Cell:   707-321-2937
Office: 707-789-9537
Fax:707-769-9037





From: Bob-O Schultze 
To: RE-wrenches 
Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:34:51 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test

Larry,
This also from Ezra -who, because of a bit of silliness on the part of the 
moderator of this list- cannot post here.

"Larry,

NABCEP provides test takers with a passing score and a partial breakdown of 
their score by exam blueprint area. It is always a bit confusing because we 
report only on those exam blueprint areas where there are sufficient number of 
questions for the information provided to be relevant. For example informing a 
candidate that they scored 50% in an area where there were only two questions 
provided little useful information but informing the same candidate that they 
scored 50% on an area where there are ten questions clearly informs them that 
this is an area where further study is required. 

We do not provide candidates with individual questions they missed as this 
would 
have a strong negative impact on the security of the exam. If we informed 
candidates on individual questions we would have to retire each exam question 
we 
did so with which would put a huge burden of developing new questions on our 
volunteer exam committee. It would also but a burden on the exam itself as we 
would be continually retiring statically field proven questions.

I know it is disappointing to candidates to not see the questions they missed, 
and if I was a candidate I'd likely be frustrated as well. I also know that it 
is simply not practical to do so and that our procedures are in accordance to 
established and recognized testing protocols. 

Sincerely,

Ezra Auerbach
Executive Director"

eauerb...@nabcep.org

To which I also add to replay to your last post:
You are incorrect that 70 is always the passing grade. It can be a little lower 
or even a little higher depending on the difficulty of that particular test and 
if we have identified any questions which have proved to be unclear or 
ambiguous. It takes time for our testing agency to compile that data. It takes 
time for our test committee to re-evaluate the questions and how they were 
answered. Lastly, each and every Certificant (not Entry Level) testing results 
comes before the Board with the raw information and the recommendations of our 
committee for a final decision and approval of a passing score. We go to great 
lengths to make sure all our testing is as fair and unbiased as possible.
As Ezra points out, it would be HUGELY expensive to have to replace our 
question 
pool for every test because we revealed the questions which you missed to you. 
Surely you can see that those questions would be widely circulated by the time 
candidates sat for the next test, making them useless.
Bob-O

On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:57 AM, wire...@gmail.com wrote:

Ezra,


Do you follow guidelines as to the "rights and responsibilities" of test 
takers. 
Do test takers have a right to see the questions they got wrong?


Larry Liesner
Wirewiz
Westport, CT
Phone: 203-644-2404
Fax: 203-557-0556
wire...@gmail.com
www.wire-wiz.com
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Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test

2011-04-01 Thread Darryl Thayer
HI Nick I am sympathic.  How ever I keep complaining the test is too easy and 
Obscure.  Yes, too easy and the questions are obscure.  I think NABCEP is 
trying 
to make a fair test, question writing is very hard,  I am sure we all want the 
highest standards for NABCEP it is the way we are going get respect and be 
named 
on bid requests, "I want a NABCEP installer" rings because we represent 
quality.  


Thanks and good luck, because luck is part of it.
Darryl





From: Nick Soleil 
To: RE-wrenches 
Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 1:43:55 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test


Hello Ezra, Bob-o, and wrenches:
    I guess if I were to pass the exam, and if I could find my results, I would 
be content.  However, I do have a concern that if the test is calibrated to 
achieve a 50% pass rate, that the problems must be made vague and confusing to 
cause difficulty.  Here are my primary concerns.
- The test material did not match the study guide
- The most recent test seems to test us on a number of obscure OSHA facts, that 
do not really pertain to designing and installing solar, to keep the test 
difficult.
- With each test cycle, the candidates are told they need to study x number of 
hours to pass the test, but only 50% pass, so the next group has to study 2x 
times to pass the exam.  As more folks study harder and harder to pass the 
test, 
the test only gets harder or the pass level is raised to keep the same level of 
a 50% pass rate. Over time we have to study more and more obscure facts, that 
have less to do with solar installing and designing, and more to do with 
short-term memorization of unimportant material.
    Additionally, I believe that the test contained some mistakes.  One 
question 
required an analysis of two roof surfaces, and we had to find which surface 
would produce more power, and how much more power.  However, the azimuths were 
listed as 'Compass' degree readings, but the provided chart gave outputs for 
'True' degrees.  The question did not provide the magnetic declination for the 
site!  

   

Nick Soleil
Project Manager
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
PO Box 657
Petaluma, CA 94953
Cell: 707-321-2937
Office: 707-789-9537
Fax: 707-769-9037 





From: Bob-O Schultze 
To: RE-wrenches 
Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:34:51 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test

Larry, 
This also from Ezra -who, because of a bit of silliness on the part of the 
moderator of this list- cannot post here.

"Larry,

NABCEP provides test takers with a passing score and a partial breakdown of 
their score by exam blueprint area. It is always a bit confusing because we 
report only on those exam blueprint areas where there are sufficient number of 
questions for the information provided to be relevant. For example informing a 
candidate that they scored 50% in an area where there were only two questions 
provided little useful information but informing the same candidate that they 
scored 50% on an area where there are ten questions clearly informs them that 
this is an area where further study is required. 

We do not provide candidates with individual questions they missed as this 
would 
have a strong negative impact on the security of the exam. If we informed 
candidates on individual questions we would have to retire each exam question 
we 
did so with which would put a huge burden of developing new questions on our 
volunteer exam committee. It would also but a burden on the exam itself as we 
would be continually retiring statically field proven questions.

I know it is disappointing to candidates to not see the questions they missed, 
and if I was a candidate I'd likely be frustrated as well. I also know that it 
is simply not practical to do so and that our procedures are in accordance to 
established and recognized testing protocols. 

Sincerely,

Ezra Auerbach
Executive Director"

eauerb...@nabcep.org

To which I also add to replay to your last post:
You are incorrect that 70 is always the passing grade. It can be a little lower 
or even a little higher depending on the difficulty of that particular test and 
if we have identified any questions which have proved to be unclear or 
ambiguous. It takes time for our testing agency to compile that data. It takes 
time for our test committee to re-evaluate the questions and how they were 
answered. Lastly, each and every Certificant (not Entry Level) testing results 
comes before the Board with the raw information and the recommendations of our 
committee for a final decision and approval of a passing score. We go to great 
lengths to make sure all our testing is as fair and unbiased as possible.
As Ezra points out, it would be HUGELY expensive to have to replace our 
question 
pool for every test because we revealed the questions which you missed to you. 
Surely you can see that those questions would be widely circulated by the time 
candidates sat for the next test, making t

[RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

2011-04-01 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
Esteemed colleagues,

 

Regarding the Sanyo problems, I was mistaken.

 

They're having problems with their HIP models.

 

I'm seeking clarification from the author of the article who I know to see
whether there have been any HIT problems as well.

 

My apologies.

 

marco

 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems (now email etiquette question)

2011-04-01 Thread North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
August
it depends on which email program you use. With MS Outlook or Express, right
click on the specific email when it's highlighted. A menu appears with
'Options' or 'Properties'at the bottom. Click it and you get a jumble of
text that has 'from' listed somewhere. there it is, just highlight it and
copy it.
Just be sure not to reply or we all will get to read it.
Jim

-Original Message-
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]On Behalf Of August
Goers
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 11:17 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems (now email etiquette question)


Michael -

This has come up before. I'm probably missing something simple but the
problem for me is that Wrenches emails do not contain the senders original
address in a way that I've been able to find it. Any suggestions about
where I can find the senders email?

Best, August

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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Welch
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:08 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

Just a reminder to all, please send requests and anything else intended
for an individual to that individual, and NOT the whole list.

If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me off list.

Thanks in advance.


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[RE-wrenches] NABCEP test

2011-04-01 Thread Nick Vida
my favorite part of the test was sitting for an ultra detailed exam that 
expected you to have certain things memorized that no engineer or electrician 
does't use resources for (like voltage drop, lag bolt ratings, and the rest) 
and 
getting the letter with the test location with the wrong address on it!

I was sent to:
810 n. Poinsettia Santa Ana 92647

when the actual address was:
810 n. Poinsettia St. Santa Ana 92701

Imagine my surprise when I drove 40 miles to a city I barley know for a test 
you 
can't take if you are late, and I arrive in a sub-division! 
And yes, having a St, Rd or Ln is a big part of finding the place, as well as 
the correct zipcode!

Nick I agree, but what really got me was all the "most safe" questions. I am 
glad that it is hard, however, because now that a c-10 can take it after 2 
installs I think it is pretty hard to really expect too much respect. That 
being 
said, combined with my 6 years of installing, it is a nice additional 
credential.

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems

2011-04-01 Thread Mick Abraham
I don't know my HIPs from my HITs...wait that didn't sound right...but you
see my problem. "Heterojunction with Intrinsic Thin Layer" = HIT. What =
HIP?

Thanks for taking a moment to address this question. Marco & others: if
anyone can find a Sanyo Tech Person who would join the Wrench List, it would
help us all and probably also help Sanyo.

Jolliness,

Mick Abraham, Proprietor
www.abrahamsolar.com

Voice: 970-731-4675


On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote:

>  Esteemed colleagues,
>
>
>
> Regarding the Sanyo problems, I was mistaken.
>
>
>
> They’re having problems with their HIP models.
>
>
>
> I’m seeking clarification from the author of the article who I know to see
> whether there have been any HIT problems as well.
>
>
>
> My apologies.
>
>
>
> marco
>
>
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[RE-wrenches] portable freezers

2011-04-01 Thread Nick Vida
Hi wrenches.

hope you are well,

Do any of you guys have any experience with portable freezer/ refrigerator 
units 
with AC and DC input? I see a couple brands out there, like EdgeStar, Dometic, 
and Whynter. Anyone have any or ever use any of these? are they good? durable?

thanks a million,

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Re: [RE-wrenches] portable freezers

2011-04-01 Thread Dan Fink

Hi Nick;

Are you talking about the truly portable kind that look like ice chests, 
or the RV type that also run on propane?


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Nick Vida wrote:

Hi wrenches.

hope you are well,

Do any of you guys have any experience with portable freezer/ 
refrigerator units with AC and DC input? I see a couple brands out 
there, like EdgeStar, Dometic, and Whynter. Anyone have any or ever use 
any of these? are they good? durable?


thanks a million,

nick vida




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[RE-wrenches] The Simplest Line Side Tap EVER

2011-04-01 Thread Eric Thomas
This puppy is adaptable to most residential installations...easy.

http://www.milbankmfg.com/products/Catalogs/CatalogFiles/PDF/K4977.pdf#Tap%20Connector

Now, can someone PLEASE share with me the PN for a good 60A Fused Two-Pole
AC Disco that is service rated for the other end of this?

Thanks!

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[RE-wrenches] portable freezers

2011-04-01 Thread Nick Vida
Hi Dan,

I am talking about the ice chest looking ones that run on AC or DC electric. 
There are a bunch of brands with pretty similar design. I have no idea if any 
of 
them are any good. Have you used them? EdgeStar?

thanks,

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Re: [RE-wrenches] portable freezers

2011-04-01 Thread Dan Fink

Nick;

Sorry, can't help you much there. I have a couple decades experience in 
RV types that involve propane plus 120vac and 12vdc, no experience in 
the new stuff.


All I can say is that Peltier Junction cooling is very inefficient. 
Using electric heating elements instead of propane for an ammonia based 
system is awful too.


If it's compressor based, you should do OK. I believe Edgestar is. Not 
sure what the other folks are bringing out for products.


Just avoid Peltiers and ammonia + heaters systems electrically--easily 
100 watts for a tiny RV fridge/freezerpropane is cheaper -  I was 
trying to figure out CF of space vs. cooling capacity, but it 's too 
late at night. ;_)


Maybe I need to look into one of these new compressor based things for 
flyfishing vacationsspecs are showing me 65 watts for a 48 CF cooler.


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Nick Vida wrote:

Hi Dan,

I am talking about the ice chest looking ones that run on AC or DC 
electric. There are a bunch of brands with pretty similar design. I have 
no idea if any of them are any good. Have you used them? EdgeStar?


thanks,

nick



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[RE-wrenches] Battery watering

2011-04-01 Thread Dana
I found Battery Watering Systems ;
http://www.batterywatering.com/

Kits and lots of options on parts for battery service.

I am getting a new pressure sprayer and ordered a "gun" that
stops when the battery fluid is at a preset level $80,
includes a flow meter visual, 20PSI pressure reducer,
sprayer handle and auto stop tip.

No more sore back from leaning over the battery bank, Yes!

 

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