[RBW] Newbie here, and to RBW

[lumpy]

Hey now,

Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking my first 
trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these beauties 
in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem extender 
can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I can 
afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start saving 
and scouring craigslist!

Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 miles round 
trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden steel 
frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin aggressive 
bike...only switching to a bianchi last year. 

Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be ;)
Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

[lumpy]

Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better then.  I 
measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8"

On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote:
>
> What size do you ride/need?  :-) 
>
> On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy  wrote: 
> > Hey now, 
> > 
> > Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking my 
> first 
> > trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these 
> beauties 
> > in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem 
> extender 
> > can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I can 
> > afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start saving 
> > and scouring craigslist! 
> > 
> > Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 miles 
> round 
> > trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden steel 
> > frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin aggressive 
> > bike...only switching to a bianchi last year. 
> > 
> > Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be ;) 
> > Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

[lumpy]

so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 56
Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi Volpe
a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant
assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the
suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more
upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further
investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction
that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ shopping
cart on rivbike.com

oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85.

On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy  wrote:
> Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better then.  I
> measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote:
>
> > What size do you ride/need?  :-)
>
> > On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy  wrote:
> > > Hey now,
>
> > > Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking my
> > first
> > > trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these
> > beauties
> > > in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem
> > extender
> > > can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I can
> > > afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start saving
> > > and scouring craigslist!
>
> > > Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 miles
> > round
> > > trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden steel
> > > frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin aggressive
> > > bike...only switching to a bianchi last year.
>
> > > Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be ;)
> > > Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

[lumpy]

now let's just see how funky this volpe will look with albatross
bars :)

Ordered albatross bars, cork grips, silver bar end shifters, brake
levers, and cabling….



On Jun 10, 8:47 pm, charlie  wrote:
> My first nice bicycle was a Bianchi Campione D'Itatlia in about 1982.
> Grant is right on that's a good bicycle and with a few mods you will
> get comfy. You'll then have something to ride while you save for a
> Rivendell. This will also give you time to figure out what you want.
> Time will always refine your tastes and needs. Tis a good decision you
> are making.
>
> On Jun 9, 8:02 pm, lumpy  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 56
> > Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi Volpe
> > a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant
> > assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the
> > suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more
> > upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further
> > investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction
> > that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ shopping
> > cart on rivbike.com
>
> > oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85.
>
> > On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy  wrote:
>
> > > Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better then.  I
> > > measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8"
>
> > > On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote:
>
> > > > What size do you ride/need?  :-)
>
> > > > On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy  wrote:
> > > > > Hey now,
>
> > > > > Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am taking my
> > > > first
> > > > > trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of these
> > > > beauties
> > > > > in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a stem
> > > > extender
> > > > > can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful if I can
> > > > > afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to start 
> > > > > saving
> > > > > and scouring craigslist!
>
> > > > > Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 miles
> > > > round
> > > > > trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've ridden steel
> > > > > frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin 
> > > > > aggressive
> > > > > bike...only switching to a bianchi last year.
>
> > > > > Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually be ;)
> > > > > Dave

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

[lumpy]

learned quite a bit by doing this work by myself.  Removed my STI shifters 
and brake interrupters, along with the cabling and housing, and a stem 
riser and replaced the stock volpe drop-bars with albatross bars with 
shimano MTB brake levers and silver shifters. 

Got everything working just great, glued on some cork grips, twined and 
shellac'd and am totally enjoying my new ride.  Friction shifters are 
smooth as could be and make a whole lot more sense to me than STI does. 
 Only glitch I ran into was not realizing exactly where the front 
derailleur cable should fit, so when i first attached it the front shifting 
was very difficult to do.  All better now thanks to some web-sleuthing.

Will try to take and post a photo tomorrow from my commute...

On Monday, June 11, 2012 3:53:30 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on friction shifting with 
> power-ratchet shifters..I presume you've been shifting index on your Volpe. 
> I thought I would never adapt to friction, but kind of stumbled into it 
> when I bought a couple of bikes with the old Suntour shifters (bar-ends on 
> one, thumbies on another). I figured I would deal with it because that's 
> what they came with, but would prefer indexing if given the choice.
>  
> Until I bought a couple more bikes with clicks. Nope. Now the loud, clunky 
> index shift drives me crazy. I love the silent, smooth action of power 
> ratchets, and find it just about impossible to miss a shift. 
>  
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
> On Monday, June 11, 2012 8:41:41 AM UTC-7, lumpy wrote:
>
>> now let's just see how funky this volpe will look with albatross 
>> bars :) 
>>
>> Ordered albatross bars, cork grips, silver bar end shifters, brake 
>> levers, and cabling…. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 10, 8:47 pm, charlie  wrote: 
>> > My first nice bicycle was a Bianchi Campione D'Itatlia in about 1982. 
>> > Grant is right on that's a good bicycle and with a few mods you will 
>> > get comfy. You'll then have something to ride while you save for a 
>> > Rivendell. This will also give you time to figure out what you want. 
>> > Time will always refine your tastes and needs. Tis a good decision you 
>> > are making. 
>> > 
>> > On Jun 9, 8:02 pm, lumpy  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 56 
>> > > Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi Volpe 
>> > > a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant 
>> > > assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the 
>> > > suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more 
>> > > upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further 
>> > > investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.Grant's conviction 
>> > > that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ 
>> shopping 
>> > > cart on rivbike.com 
>> > 
>> > > oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85. 
>> > 
>> > > On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > > > Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better 
>> then.  I 
>> > > > measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8" 
>> > 
>> > > > On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: 
>> > 
>> > > > > What size do you ride/need?  :-) 
>> > 
>> > > > > On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy  wrote: 
>> > > > > > Hey now, 
>> > 
>> > > > > > Looks like a fun group here.  I live in the bay area and am 
>> taking my 
>> > > > > first 
>> > > > > > trip out to Rivendell this weekend to take a look at some of 
>> these 
>> > > > > beauties 
>> > > > > > in person.  I currently ride a Bianchi Volpe, and even with a 
>> stem 
>> > > > > extender 
>> > > > > > can't get the more upright comfort I'm looking for.  Doubtful 
>> if I can 
>> > > > > > afford a Rivendell this weekend, but I'm certainly going to 
>> start saving 
>> > > > > > and scouring craigslist! 
>> > 
>> > > > > > Mostly a commuter, with occasional longer rides.  Commute is 18 
>> miles 
>> > > > > round 
>> > > > > > trip, and a longer ride for me these days is 20-30.  I've 
>> ridden steel 
>> > > > > > frames since I started biking in 2003, but mostly on a Marin 
>> aggressive 
>> > > > > > bike...only switching to a bianchi last year. 
>> > 
>> > > > > > Looking forward to learning how comfortable a bike can actually 
>> be ;) 
>> > > > > > Dave
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

[lumpy]

<https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gd5AUvFzknA/T-Hyr2Ij3zI/CBc/63ZAQGiHv7o/s1600/photo-3.JPG>
first time commuting on non-clipless pedals since 2004.  felt real 
niceuntil my shoelaces got caught in the gears!  

The ride has changed remarkably - and almost entirely for the better.  I'm 
sliding forward a bit on the seat - which may be correctable by giving a 
backwards tilt to the saddle.  Also a bit of discomfort on the tops of my 
shoulders.  Better than the discomfort in my shoulder blades I had with 
drops, but surprised that I was still feeling any.

On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:44:22 PM UTC-7, lumpy wrote:
>
> learned quite a bit by doing this work by myself.  Removed my STI shifters 
> and brake interrupters, along with the cabling and housing, and a stem 
> riser and replaced the stock volpe drop-bars with albatross bars with 
> shimano MTB brake levers and silver shifters. 
>
> Got everything working just great, glued on some cork grips, twined and 
> shellac'd and am totally enjoying my new ride.  Friction shifters are 
> smooth as could be and make a whole lot more sense to me than STI does. 
>  Only glitch I ran into was not realizing exactly where the front 
> derailleur cable should fit, so when i first attached it the front shifting 
> was very difficult to do.  All better now thanks to some web-sleuthing.
>
> Will try to take and post a photo tomorrow from my commute...
>
> On Monday, June 11, 2012 3:53:30 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on friction shifting with 
>> power-ratchet shifters..I presume you've been shifting index on your Volpe. 
>> I thought I would never adapt to friction, but kind of stumbled into it 
>> when I bought a couple of bikes with the old Suntour shifters (bar-ends on 
>> one, thumbies on another). I figured I would deal with it because that's 
>> what they came with, but would prefer indexing if given the choice.
>>  
>> Until I bought a couple more bikes with clicks. Nope. Now the loud, 
>> clunky index shift drives me crazy. I love the silent, smooth action of 
>> power ratchets, and find it just about impossible to miss a shift. 
>>  
>> Joe Bernard
>> Vallejo, CA.
>>
>> On Monday, June 11, 2012 8:41:41 AM UTC-7, lumpy wrote:
>>
>>> now let's just see how funky this volpe will look with albatross 
>>> bars :) 
>>>
>>> Ordered albatross bars, cork grips, silver bar end shifters, brake 
>>> levers, and cabling…. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 8:47 pm, charlie  wrote: 
>>> > My first nice bicycle was a Bianchi Campione D'Itatlia in about 1982. 
>>> > Grant is right on that's a good bicycle and with a few mods you will 
>>> > get comfy. You'll then have something to ride while you save for a 
>>> > Rivendell. This will also give you time to figure out what you want. 
>>> > Time will always refine your tastes and needs. Tis a good decision you 
>>> > are making. 
>>> > 
>>> > On Jun 9, 8:02 pm, lumpy  wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > > so got a chance to meet Grant this afternoon for a quick spin on a 
>>> 56 
>>> > > Sam Hillborne and a look at what can be done to make my Bianchi 
>>> Volpe 
>>> > > a bit more comfy.  Very nice experience there with everyone - Grant 
>>> > > assured me that the Volpe is an excellent bike, and gave the 
>>> > > suggestion of albatross bars with a longer stem to get me more 
>>> > > upright.  I think it's worth a shot, and while it is a further 
>>> > > investment in a bike I don't yet truly love.....Grant's conviction 
>>> > > that the volpe can and will serve me well has me with a $200+ 
>>> shopping 
>>> > > cart on rivbike.com 
>>> > 
>>> > > oh, and my PBH was more accurately measured at just below 85. 
>>> > 
>>> > > On Jun 8, 12:01 pm, lumpy  wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > > > Pretty sure a 56.  Heading to RBW tomorrow and should know better 
>>> then.  I 
>>> > > > measured my PBH at just under 81cm and I'm just over 5'8" 
>>> > 
>>> > > > On Thursday, June 7, 2012 3:48:49 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > What size do you ride/need?  :-) 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > On Jun 6, 3:52 pm, lumpy  wrote: 
&g

[RBW] Re: Newbie here, and to RBW

[lumpy]

Thanks Jim for the thoughts.

The saddle isn't new, so maybe I'll try a very small angled change on it 
and see how it goes.  

On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:28:37 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> The sliding is definitely a issue with a new Brooks saddle, especially if 
> you have been using the more prevalent commercial synthetic types.  Subtle 
> changes go a long way on saddle adjustment.  Also, after a few rides, your 
> hip bones (ichial 
> protruberances)
>  
> will indent the saddle a bit.
>
> As for the shoulder issue, the change from drops to arc bars is pretty 
> significant.  It will feel different and may result in some direct soreness 
> as the joints get used to a different angle and stresses.  Sharp pains are 
> no good, but a touch of adjustment is natural.  You may want to experiment 
> a bit with the angle set up on the bars as well.  I tweaked my moustache 
> bars slightly downward and it made a significant difference.  If you 
> over-angle your wrists, everything north of that has to compensate, which 
> could lead to some shoulder or neck issues.  Bring a wrench and trust your 
> body to know what's right.
>
> Congrats, by the way!
>
> - Jim / cyclofiend.com
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Poster

[lumpy]

frame it up.  Americanframe.com used to have good pricing on custom 
frames/matsor a local frame shop might have something pre-cut that'll 
work just fine.  DLG works do seem to appreciate in value, so don't 
drymount it (seal it to a backing board, some framers will do this) or tack 
it to the wall!

D

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:36:56 AM UTC-7, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 6:52:43 PM UTC-6, René wrote:
>>
>>  
>> What do people feel, is it better to mount it as a poster or to frame it 
>> under glass? H
>>  
>> René
>>
>>
> Once you reach 30 years of age, posters/prints go in frames. 
>

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