[RBW] looking for advice on stem seat post wanted
I am building my first Rivendell thanks to my brother getting me a romulus frame for X-mas(pretty cool gift). I've got my drivetrain coming from my LBS. I need to select seat post and stem and I'm looking for some suggestions and if anyone has anything for sale let me know. Here are some pics from my starting point. http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/4180215090/ Thanks, Wade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] christmas day canti rom build
I finally got to start my romulus build today. With any luck I get to test ride it tomorrow. This is my first build and first rivendell thanks to my brother for the frame (and tech support) and my wife for the components for christmas. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45895...@n02/. Any input would be appreciated. Wade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] christmas day canti rom build
Thanks it was a fun evening working on it. The seat is serfas that my brother gave me. I'm thinking about a black b-17. The wheels are bontrager race lites ( take offs from my wife's bike when she got a new wheel set). I wasn't sure about the wheels at first but I think they look pretty good they just need some new tires. - Original Message - From: Ray Shine To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] christmas day canti rom build Wade - Looking great, so far. That crank set is a beaut! What seat is that, and the wheels? --- On Fri, 12/25/09, Wade Vidal wrote: From: Wade Vidal Subject: [RBW] christmas day canti rom build To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 10:31 PM I finally got to start my romulus build today. With any luck I get to test ride it tomorrow. This is my first build and first rivendell thanks to my brother for the frame (and tech support) and my wife for the components for christmas. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45895...@n02/. Any input would be appreciated. Wade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] christmas day canti rom build
the tires are little narrow I'm going to start with 28mm paselas and see how they do. - Original Message - From: "CycloFiend" To: Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] christmas day canti rom build > on 12/25/09 10:31 PM, Wade Vidal at wvwheel...@comcast.net wrote: > >> I finally got to start my romulus build today. With any luck I get to >> test >> ride it tomorrow. This is my first build and first rivendell thanks to >> my >> brother for the frame (and tech support) and my wife for the components >> for >> christmas. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45895...@n02/. Any input would >> be >> appreciated. > > Looks like you've got it going well. I wouldn't be afraid to go bigger on > the tires, though. You've got good clearance in the frame, and more air > volume will go a long way towards more comfort on the ride. > > Enjoy every bit of the journey! > > - J > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines > > > "I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I > follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me." > -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: christmas day canti rom build
Ryan you are absolutely right about walking away. I was having lot of trouble setting up the brakes and that was the last thing I needed to do before the first test ride. I took a break and came back to it and now they working pretty well. I got to make my test ride in the dark but it was still fun to get it going. here are some more pics with the brakes on http://www.flickr.com/photos/45895...@n02/?saved=1 - Original Message - From: "RoadieRyan" To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 5:41 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: christmas day canti rom build Wade your first build is looking excellent! My advice would be to take your time and if you run into issues use your resources. I rely on (in no real order); this forum, Sheldon Brown's site, Park tools site for videos and good tech breakdowns of "how tos" and "Zinn and the Art of road bike Maintenance". It can be tough to walk away when you get stuck -to clear your mind (especially when you are so close to the first ride you can taste it) but I have never regretted walking away and coming back later, i am almost always amazed how "easy" the issue that was blocking me is to resolve with a little time away. Looks like a super sweet ride hope you get many miles of smiles RR Abike and light-hearted, I take to the open road, Healthy, free, the world before me, The long brown path before me, leading wherever I choose. (with apologies to W.Whitman) On Dec 25, 10:31 pm, "Wade Vidal" wrote: > I finally got to start my romulus build today. With any luck I get to test > ride it tomorrow. This is my first build and first rivendell thanks to my > brother for the frame (and tech support) and my wife for the components > for christmas. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45895...@n02/. Any input would > be appreciated. > > Wade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] brooks swift saddle
Does anyone have any experience with this saddle? http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Swift-Saddle-BLUE-Leather-London-EHBPC-Limited_W0QQitemZ300374421102QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item45efb5ee6e Is the special edition worth the upcharge? I really like it b/c of the blue leather. Thanks, Wade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] christmas weekend canti rom build
test ride pics and short video thanks for all the encouraging words and advice. I hope to have it road worthy by next weekend. Wade - Original Message - From: Wade Vidal To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:31 AM Subject: [RBW] christmas day canti rom build I finally got to start my romulus build today. With any luck I get to test ride it tomorrow. This is my first build and first rivendell thanks to my brother for the frame (and tech support) and my wife for the components for christmas. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45895...@n02/. Any input would be appreciated. Wade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] christmas weekend canti rom build
thanks I'll try putting the seat back farther. I'm still working on the fit my LBS has a fit stem I'm gonna try this week to get it dialed in. The bars are 44cm Moda's (not sure of the model) my Brother gave me they work nicely and I like the silver color. I'm thinking about going with dark blue bar tape to finish it out. - Original Message - From: David Faller To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] christmas weekend canti rom build I wondered about pushing that saddle back more, too... That's gonna be a fine ride! I look forward to the bar tape completion. BTW, which bars are those? - Original Message - From: Seth Vidal To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] christmas weekend canti rom build On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Wade Vidal wrote: > test ride pics and short video thanks for all the encouraging words and > advice. I hope to have it road worthy by next weekend. > I think you're right about the shorter stem. Swap out that spare one I sent you for something shorter - maybe a 9-10cm stem and see if it comes back toward you a bit. You look a bit stretched out. See if your LBS has a used stem bin and you can swap them in and out until you get a size that's a bit better. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Roadeo!
Congrats on great christmas gift. that is a beautiful bike it looks great in thesnow - Original Message - From: "J. Douglas Way" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: [RBW] New Roadeo! > Hi- > > Here's a link to some hastily taken pictures of my new 59 cm Roadeo that > arrived on Christmas Eve. The build was done by my LBS, Vecchios, in > Boulder, CO. Yes, it still has the skinny tires from my Ti bike that > was the source of the parts. I will install some 32 mm Paselas while > I'm waiting for the snow to melt, ;-). I may try to ride it today anyway! > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/25652...@n05/sets/72157622976728367/ > > My wife, Deb, is anxiously awaiting the arrival of her 51 cm Roadeo in > blue. > > Happy New Year! > Doug Way > in snowy Boulder, CO > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] hunquapiller?
I think you should order one and see what you get. - Original Message - From: "Seth Vidal" To: Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [RBW] hunquapiller? > From the riv website: > > "Let's say you want a Rodeo or a Hunquapiller this Spring, but you can > pay some of it off now. OK, then. You call up and say you want to put > $2,000 toward it." > > Hunquapiller? > > > Pray tell, what is a hunquapiller? > > -sv > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] hunquapiller?
just trying to help - Original Message - From: "Seth Vidal" To: Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] hunquapiller? > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Wade Vidal > wrote: >> I think you should order one and see what you get. > > > I think mom was right about you and you're a terrible influence! :) > > -sv > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo Envy?
your bike looks great. I like the red rims in the before picture though - Original Message - From: J L To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:24 PM Subject: [RBW] Roadeo Envy? With all the buzz about the Roadeo being available I was inspired to update my '96 Road Standard. It had been equipped with a mixed bag of parts; Ritchey compact double, suntour down tube shifters, etc. The current setup is almost exclusivly dura ace 7700. http://tinyurl.com/y8s22lc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: christmas weekend canti rom build
pics of bar tape, bell, and executive assistant. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45895...@n02/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH will go on forever
are the ones at mtn sports complete or f/f? - Original Message - From: "Seth Vidal" To: Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AHH will go on forever On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: I assume one has your name on it? Not as yet, I'd like to verify that the 61 is right versus the 59 first. But I'll be travelling NEARISH bristol in 2 weeks so I might force myself to stop by. The problem with the delayed gratification is that when I finally got myself to pull the trigger, I wanted it yesterday. So now I find myself trolling on eBay for an interim "fix". There's an Atlantis in my size on offer that would make a great errand/commuter bike -- but then of course I'd have to figure out a way to persuade my S.O. that TWO Rivs is an even better idea than one!. The atlantis is a great bike, I have a 58cm and if I got an AHH I'd have an excuse to put the really silly-large tires on the atlantis and make the AHH the 'longer ride' bike. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv Custom
that is beautiful custom. I love the color what is it? - Original Message - From: "Brad Gantt" To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: New Riv Custom Just updated Flikr with a couple of shots Mark took of the bike post- build. Just need to add pedals, bags, cages and I'm in business! http://www.flickr.com/photos/17053...@n02/sets/72157623066924065/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH will go on forever
better leave room in the fit for a new frame - Original Message - From: "Seth Vidal" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AHH will go on forever On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Wade Vidal wrote: are the ones at mtn sports complete or f/f? I believe at the moment they have both. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam finished!
Your bike looks great. I really dig the bar tape. - Original Message - From: "Frederick, Steve" To: "Rbw-Owners-Bunch (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:00 AM Subject: [RBW] Quickbeam finished! I finished up my Quickbeam this last weekend and took it out for a quick 12 miles during a warm (upper 30's) snap on saturday. I'm really happy with the way it rides and the fit is great, too! My other Rivs are 54cm but I wanted a QB with 650b wheels so I took a chance on the 52cm and it's okay. The Tech. Deluxe stem's not even at the max height. I set it up as a 3-speed with a 16t fixed cog on one side, a Dos Eno 17-19 freewheel on the other and the stock 32/40/chainguard crankset. The gearing is okay with the exception of the low gear--32X19 is just too low, I think. I was twiddling like mad and barely doing 11mph! We just don't have the extended climbs in this area to justify such a low gear, unfortunetly. Since 32 is the biggest 74mm BCD ring made, I might have to lose the stock triple crank with ring guard setup, and switch to a more conventional 110mm BCD, 36-40 ring combo up front. I think a 36X19 low gear would be about right... Anyway, I put my favorite bartape on it, Fizik brand, in the metallic blue and I think it looks pretty good. More pics in an outdoor setting once the sun reappears in, say April...B-( The rear fenderline's wonky of course, to give room for shifting gears! Couple of Rec Room pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4283362608/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4282618103/ Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post
that is one beautiful bike congrats - Original Message - From: "usuk2007" To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:37 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post I completely agree, simplicity and classic lines make a nice bike, hence my recent purchase from De Rosa in Italy http://www.wheelsofchance.org On Feb 28, 7:32 pm, Marty wrote: Got to see what all the fuss was about on Saturday morning. Granted, there was plenty there to be inspired by, but honestly I was a bit disappointed. Too much bling for me. Too many "sky's the limit" designs. Too many over-worked wanna-be-masterpieces that showed off mad skills with torches, welders and spray guns, but lacked the subtle simplicity that demonstrates the restraint and maturity of a true master - or the humility and honesty of an up-an-comer. Now I'm not saying I could do better. I've never built a bike from raw tubes - I know my limits. But it seems that the premise of the show itself may be a misnomer when so much of the work is done by CNC driven lasers, water jets and similar computer controlled machines. IMHO - the intricate detail made possible by computers adds little to the overall end result, and in many cases becomes a distraction. I may be alone in this opinion - there was a whole lot of drool left on everything that pushed the envelope in that regard. But gone was the Shaker-like simplicity, practicality and celebration of the fundamental practical forms that define two-wheeled transportation. No need to look for innovative little details that mark progress - it was in your face - chromed, polished and begging for attention. In many respects I felt as if I may as well have attended a Low Rider bike show. I guess I'm showing my age here, but the only booths I found myself lingering were those where the frames were basically triangles, the paint was basically one color - maybe two, and the overall vibe was that of timelessness. Hank Folson was there with his Henry James lugs. Richard Sachs with a pair of dirt-encrusted Cross bikes. Peter Mooney. Chris Bishop. Bilenky. (Way to haul in the whole workshop guys!) Plenty of pics on other sites, so you can judge for yourself. I found myself back my the room looking at the Flickr Rivendell pages just for some peace of mind. Worked like a charm. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.