[RBW] Bike Rack

[SallyG]

Hi all!
Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 cm 
for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
Sally

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Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

[SallyG]

As always, I'm learning lots from the conversation! Thank you, always a 
pleasure.

To add my non-technical two cents:

I used to ride with toe clips/leather straps. They have (probably) saved my 
life...and also caused me harm. Riding my second-hand Raleigh Gran Sport 
fast down a steep grade in the southern Alps (NZ), I hit a big pothole with 
my front tire. I was thrown off my seat and over the handlebars...held back 
by the one foot that remained in a toe clip. So thankful for that! On the 
other hand, one day back in Calif., starting off uphill, I ungracefully 
keeled over and fractured my elbow. Then had to drive a stick-shift car to 
the hospital for x-rays...

My (still new-ish) Clem is my first bike without pedal retention and I feel 
kind of like a kid again, just having fun. But I can't say I don't 
sometimes think of 531 Reynolds and the things that go with it!



On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 12:51:51 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote:

> Nice Patrick !   Perfect body position, for me and he, apparently ! 
>
> On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 3:29:08 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> You must be the forgotten heir of Alexi Grewal who notoriously rode a 
>> Clark Kent frame with hugely steep seat tube to get comfortable and 
>> powerful.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who feels the power and likes the bend to the hooks with 
>> saddle slammed all the way back on a 73* seat tube with highish offset DA 
>> post.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 1:23 PM Garth  wrote:
>>
>>> No retention at all for me for that last 20 some years. Since my feet 
>>> are positioned more midfoot and the pedals have good pins to grip Altra 
>>> Lone Peaks(w/150mm cranks), I have no need for anything else. I have no 
>>> pins on the other side and the even then my feet stay in place from feel. 
>>> .Since moving my saddle all the way forward I find my pedaling has become 
>>> even more effective/efficient. Torque + pedal speed = vroom sensation = FUN 
>>> !  I think I'm going to get a zero setback post to try as I'm close to the 
>>> limit on the Cobb saddle with a Ritchey 25mm setback post. As the foot is 
>>> placed more midfoot, I feel much more "planted" to the cranks from my 
>>> trunk/core. Now that I'm going more forward of the BB, I find an aero 
>>> position more comfortable, and now feet are more angled forward/down than 
>>> before. Picture the classic Roadrunner cartoon where at full speed and side 
>>> angle, the RR's head is forward of the feet, the entire body is leaning 
>>> forward, and the RR is just chillin' doing it. The more forward I am of the 
>>> BB, I'm pushing more back with my entire body to the wheel/chainstays, 
>>> rather than pushing down or forward with my body further back of the BB. 
>>> It's also less strenuous on everything, go figure. So now I'm in complete 
>>> rethink of frame design, I could use a much steeper seat tube angle, 
>>> 73.5-74 ish. This isn't stuff anyone can teach, other than encouraging the 
>>> exploration/creativity to find your way as to what works and what doesn't. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 1:34:13 PM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>>
 I just remembered I also used Power Grips which was a nice combination 
 of foot retention and normal shoes. The one downside to power grips was 
 that they needed to be adjusted for shoes that were materially different 
 in 
 size from the shoes used to set up the straps. Chuck Taylor’s vs hiking 
 boots for example. I set mine up a bit loose for Chuck’s which worked for 
 most of the shoes I used with the Power Grips.

 Robert Tilley
 San Diego, CA


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 On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:08 PM, rlti...@gmail.com wrote:

 

 The first bike I bought for myself was a mid 80’s Schwinn Sierra and I 
 rode that to commute to work and school. Once I added a road bike (Nishiki 
 Prestige) to that I started reading cycling magazines and learned that the 
 flat pedals I had been using since I started riding weren’t the way to go. 
 So I bought some Time pedals and cleats for the road bike.  The Schwinn 
 got 
 some clips and straps for retention.

 At some point I ditched the Time for SPD’s and used those on all bikes 
 for years. When I got my Riv custom in 2000 I went in on the retro thing 
 and put clips and straps on it but that didn’t last long and the Riv soon 
 got SPD’s as well.

 Quite a few years back I picked up a Brompton and found the flat, no 
 retention pedals on it didn’t feel weird and I did not miss having 
 retention. Since then I have most of my bikes set up with flat pedals with 
 pins. I still have my “go fast” bike set up with SPD’s and I do put those 
 on my off-road bike when I plan to do more technical trails. But most 
 off-road rides I just used flats.  

 I really like not having to change into different shoes w

[RBW] First Ride, First Riv

[SallyG]

Hi! Just got my first Rivendell bike (Clem Smith L 45 cm.) and it is SO 
SMOOTH and just gorgeous! I'm enjoying your Owners Bunch and learning lots. 
Here's a photo from my first ride today

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Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

[SallyG]

We used a Burley double-wide when our kids were 2 and 3.5...We hooked it to 
my husband's old Giant mountain bike. Traffic was non-existent or very 
light since we lived on a small island. The kids liked it because they 
could bring various stuffed animals, so we could get a long-ish ride in 
...When we moved to San Diego, the trailer seemed too wide for the streets 
so we got a Tag-a-long...it didn't seem as safe and, by that time, the kids 
wanted to ride their own bikes...so we didn't use it much. (P.S. I'm 
another nurse...seems like nurses choose Rivendell, ha!)

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:28:45 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> +1 for a trailer. One advantage of a trailer is that you can use it with a 
> bike that is not well suited for a heavy load on the rear rack; and I 
> agree, they don't change the handling and feel of the bike as much as a big 
> and high rear-rack weight does. And they allow easier mounting.
>
> Mine was a "doublewide" and let me combine child hauling with grocery 
> shopping: my daughter and I would combine bicycle fun with grocery shopping 
> on Saturday mornings, she on one side, the paper grocery sacks on the 
> other, usually with a helium balloon or two in our slipstream.
>
> My tractor was a early-edition Raleigh Technium sports tourer, a tank with 
> long stays and flexy tubes stuck into gaspipe lugs, but with 32 mm tires 
> (fat at the time, early '00s) it was very plush. I had it set up with a 67" 
> fixed gear, just right: low enough to grunt Catie and groceries up minor 
> hills or pull the doublewide against headwinds, fast enough to keep up with 
> modest tailwinds.
>
> You don't need a name brand. I forget what I had; it was decent but not a 
> Burley or a Thule; Avocet? It worked fine and by the time you get to the 
> point of experiencing the longevity of an expensive brand your child has 
> long outgrown it. I did later get a used Burley trail-a-bike but by the 
> time my daughter was old enough to ride it she was embarrassed to be seen 
> on it and demanded her own bike.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 7:05 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>
>> A trailer is the safest option. If you go that route I would consider a 
>> Thule or older Chariot (these can be had very inexpensively). They have 
>> weight adjustable suspension and you can use an infant sling. The general 
>> age recommendation is to wait until 12-18 months but we certainly started 
>> closer to 6 months (My wife and I are both nurse practitioners and got the 
>> Ok from his pediatrician). It will very from child to child but once they 
>> are demonstrating strong head and neck control they should be ok in an 
>> infant sling.
>>
>> I personally prefer a Thule Maxi seat on a rack behind me. It’s just nice 
>> not having to deal with the weight and logistics of a trailer. We only just 
>> started doing that on our Cargo E bike now that he’s 16 months and gets to 
>> ride to daycare. 
>>
>> Eliot
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 5:54 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kushan,
>>>
>>> Oh, I so know that excitement you feel about introducing your baby to 
>>> biking. It’s wonderful that you want to share it and it will be such a 
>>> bonding experience between the both of you as he grows up.
>>>
>>> Is the plan to put him in a bike seat on your bike? Or in a cargo bike? 
>>> In a car seat inside a cargo bike? I think the last option is the only one 
>>> I could safely recommend, and maybe not even that. I am a nurse, and I 
>>> won’t ever forget the part of our pediatrics training that talked about the 
>>> microtears that can be caused even by bouncing a baby too hard. You can 
>>> damage their little eyes, their brains, and their neck muscles, which 
>>> really aren’t meant to support much until after one year of age. Now, if a 
>>> pediatrician happens to be on here and would like to offer advice, I’d love 
>>> to hear it, but from what I can remember in peds training, it wouldn’t be 
>>> safe to take baby on a bike seat until next year. 
>>>
>>> I’m sorry!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:58:35 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>>
 Looking for wisdom and advice from the Riv community on riding bikes 
 with babies on them. At what age did you start? What seats, trailers, etc 
 did you use? Where did you ride? 

 My little one just turned 6 months old and I am itching to introduce 
 him to bike rides. He can sit on his own and does pretty well in carriers 
 (both facing in and out). He loves being outside and I would love to do a 
 ride with him on a car-free bike paths or (non-technical) dirt trails. 
 Most 
 online resources recommend biking with babies after 1 year of age but I am 
 not sure if that's based on any actual research. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[SallyG]

[image: Clem.jpg]
Demonstrating use of Poodle Sock to snug sweatpants  and prevent 
catastrophe. Note stylish contrasting colors of Raspberry (oh, Leah, do I 
need a Platypus to match??) and Clem Metallic Pea frame.
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:04:37 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> If perfect form is perfect style, the first is a favorite but the second 
> while much more relaxed is very close.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L: Color It Mine!

[SallyG]

Congratulations from a fellow Clemmer! Enjoy!

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 5:49:33 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> All the RivSisters are doing it! I took my own RBW Blue Clem out for a 
> ride tonight on some sandy roads in the neighborhood. The new wide tires 
> were wonderful. I can’t wait to hear more (and see more) about and of your 
> new Clem, Kiley!
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>
> On Sep 19, 2023, at 3:32 PM, Kiley Demond  wrote:
>
> Wah! My HE (husband equivalent) has been helping me set it up (a far cry 
> from putting my Cheviot together by myself 7 years ago). Anyway, the rear 
> wheel is out of true. I talked to Will and I am taking it to a bike shop to 
> have the appropriate spokes tightened to get it back true. My plan is to 
> ride it stock (except the seat & seat post) for a couple of days before I 
> start considering alterations and component swaps. First thing I noticed 
> (while on it in my living room 😁) was that the saddle (my Rivet saddle on 
> the Nitto set-back post) doesn't have to be as far back as on the Cheviot. 
> However, the Tosco bars may be a bit too short, but again... stock for a 
> week.
>
>
> I'll be back as soon as I actually get to ride it.
>
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:30:31 PM UTC-7 Kiley Demond wrote:
>
>> I did it! I received the “BIS” (back in stock) email from Riv the weekend 
>> before last and bought a Clem L 59cm in blue! (I wonder where it was hiding 
>> in the warehouse or was it in a new container with Homers?)  I wanted an 
>> older gen in orange but what did I know? Blue is my second favorite color. 
>> Probably a better option because as a direct buyer of a new bike, the bike 
>> is warrantied as long as I own it. And the price was great! It hasn’t gone 
>> up in price so at $2050, a total bargain. And as a (female) American, I am 
>> motivated by a “deal” 😁. 
>>
>> And of course, getting to ride! I have a bike that I have been “using” in 
>> the interim. Quote marks because I didn’t use it more than a couple of 
>> times all summer. I think it was subconsciously too daunting because it 
>> didn’t feel safe & secure, which is a Riv cornerstone. (And, there are 
>> already people who have added electric pedal-assist, which is a distinct 
>> possibility for the future, and I will not have to re-invent the wheel 🤭.) 
>> My energy soared as soon as I completed the purchase. I am beset with new 
>> bike excitement!
>>
>> Update: Bike arrived in 5 days! Seat tube tang got bent a smidge by some 
>> transport company (turned the box upside down because those big ↑ on the 
>> box are not enough—fabricator beau fixed it in a minute; now I need to seal 
>> the seat tube opening due to paint being scraped off to bare steel). 
>>
>> I have been busy the last couple of days with a friend's Celebration of 
>> Life, but can now turn my attention to my retirement bicycle! Let the 
>> pimping begin! Photos to follow when I get it a little further along. I 
>> have straddled it in my living room a couple of times and bless the 'L''! 
>>
>> First ride tomorrow! I'm bck! 😊
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Riv Road spotted

[SallyG]

The Lighthouse Century sports some beautiful natural scenery (as well as 
some beautiful bikes, Mike!). I did it once during my pink Pogliaghi era 
and remember some headwinds, too! Thanks for the report:)

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 4:21:48 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Would love to have seen the red,the Homer and Mike's roadeo
> Orange custom with pump painted to match is 😋
>
> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 5:16:54 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> It's always fun to find a Riv in the wild. All three pictured here are 
>> especially nice. Thank you Paul and Ryan for sharing.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 12:54:09 AM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> A red Riv Road spotted on the Lighthouse Century, a gray-blue Homer, 
>>> seemed like a 26 inch wheeled machine, both in front of me. The Homer and 
>>> red Riv riders stuck together and I could not catch them. One or two 
>>> Roadinis spotted too.  I rode my white with blue accent Roadeo, two friends 
>>> on a white Guru with red accents, and other friend on white Poprad with red 
>>> accents (thanks Suntour Jim).  We were Team White Bikes.
>>>
>>> Very few notable machines out there.  Team White Bikes passed a green 
>>> Fitzgerald and a frenchy blue Boulder Bicycles going up the hill towards 
>>> Harmony. 99% or so of the other bikes flat black carbon or flat black 
>>> something or other. 
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA 
>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 2:19:03 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Ah, it has the Campy Ego-looking brifters, too. I don't remember the 
 connection between the companies now but you could get those from Sachs 
 and 
 they would index Shimano 8-speed cassettes. 

 On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 2:16:26 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> New Success goodness. I think Riv was selling those bits at the time. 
>
> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 1:17:31 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>
>> Also noteworthy are the Sachs brakes, derailleurs and crankset.
>>
>> IanA
>>
>> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 1:57:14 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That is pretty indeed, and even the Paris Roubaix tires look new. 
>>> Those (at least, if they are the first generation) are wonderful tires, 
>>> as 
>>> nice as any I've ridden from RH or Schwalbe's best (very good ideed). 
>>>
>>> I'm often surprised at how clean many owners keep their bikes. I'm 
>>> careful about the drivetrain and components but less so about the 
>>> non-sliding parts.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 8:45 AM 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 While eating at one of our favorite coffee shops near Jamestown, 
 Va. (on the Va. Capital Trail) recently, our group spotted this 
 near-pristine Rivendell Road (?) parked at the outside deck. 
 I don't see many of these in my neck of the woods so stopped to 
 ask. The owner bought it new (maybe late 1990's?). I doesn't seem to 
 have 
 gotten much use, but maybe he is super-careful with the bike.[image: 
 Inline image]

 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.

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[RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[SallyG]

Will try for a 50 cm complete green for husband's Xmas present! Going to be 
tricky at work but I have supportive so-workers who know it's Platypus Day 
tomorrow:)

On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 6:40:42 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> The preorder email was sent out today! Did you read it? Lots of completes 
> for sale but only 24 frames.
>
> Set to arrive end of November. Sad you’ll have to wait so long. 
>
> Who is getting one?
>
> What color?
>
> What plans for the bike?
>
> I just had a gorgeous 27 miles on my mermaid Platy today. Sublimely 
> comfortable. Plenty fast. 
>
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Summer 2024 Photos

[SallyG]

Rode to Morro Rock and watched the surfers this morning; they did not seem 
put off by several shark reports here and in Cayucos!

[image: Surfers at the Rock.jpg]

[image: The Rock.jpg]
On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 9:33:00 PM UTC-7 kyleco...@gmail.com wrote:

> A recent S24O out along the Puget Sound with some friends. It was the 
> first camping trip on my modded Bleriot. Hope ya'll are havin fun out there!
>
> [image: DSC09761 copy.JPG][image: DSC09781 copy.JPG][image: DSC09784 
> copy.jpg]
> On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 9:11:00 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>>
>> First ride on Great Lakes Sam. See NBD posting for better pix of the 
>> bike. Country biking on a country bike.
>> Olympus OM-D EM1 / Olympus 45mm/f1.8
>>
>> Apologies to Appaloosa owners.
>>
>> [image: P7260033.jpeg]
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>
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