[RBW] Re: Today's brevet.

[RayO]

I think I remember getting too hot on the Birkie once,
or maybe it was just wishing.

On Mar 14, 8:06 am, Mike  wrote:
> After we left Birkenfeld there was this thick light steady rain that
> hung over us until Vernonia. When we got back on Timber Rd it cleared
> up but we were all just feeling a little cooked.
>
> At Glenwood I used the Magic 8 Ball app on my phone to ask if it would
> rain on us before the finish at Forest Grove. The reply was "Yes,
> definitely". And sure enough it started raining as we rolled along
> Gales Creek and back into Forest Grove.
>
> I'm glad you had fun Lynne. You looked really comfortable when I saw
> you motoring into Birkenfeld.
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Vindicated Once Again

[RayO]

Tool kit of the ages: Duct tape, WD/40, magic marker, Leatherman multi-
tool and zip ties.

But my elitist leather mudflaps are attatched to my fancy pants
stainless steel fenders with
frou-frou hardware.

On Dec 23, 6:56 pm, Ray Shine  wrote:
> Wow!  I've always used zipties for fendres and baskets. I'm curious how one
> efficiently mounts a basket to a front rack with anything other than zip 
> ties?  
> Pix to back it up?
>
> 
> From: Philip Williamson 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Thu, December 23, 2010 5:26:24 PM
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Vindicated Once Again
>
> On Dec 23, 2:18 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 13:56 -0800, JimD wrote:
>
> > > Seriously, if you get your mind right (and it took some time for me to
> > > do so), zip ties aren't a 'hack'.
> > > They're an ingenious solution to many faster/fastening problems.
>
> > Yes, but the Saluki doesn't present those problems.
>
> > And yes, in this case zip ties are a hack and all the koolaid in the
> > world isn't going to change that.
>
> I'm pretty sure we're talking about mudflaps, not fenders. Nuts and
> bolts for mudflaps are more of a hack than zipties.
> The couture solution would be to have two brass snaps on the trailing
> edge of every Honjo fender, and 'artisan' mudflaps that matched...
>
> Philip
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[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”

[RayO]

 On two different bikes I use Silver downtube shifters with 7 speed
IRD freewheels
and Campy Mirage and a Champ rear derailleur.
I can't believe how well this works in comparison to 70's-80's  top
end Campy (Record/Super Record).

I stil have to ease off a little to down shift while climbing but, as
already stated, some of us
have been doing that all along and can't stop even when using indexed
shifing.

On Aug 16, 11:27 am, Juhani Laitela  wrote:
> I’ve some difficulties with friction shifting with my Dia Compe bar
> end “Silver Shifters”.
>
> They work fine when I’ve my bike in repair stand and also when riding
> on flat or downhill, but when climbing uphill, especially with some
> load and on steeper hill, the rear cogs really make noise when
> shifting to the biggest cogs (with the smallest chainring). I’m almost
> afraid the cogs are going to brake or something. I’ve the problem when
> shifting both to bigger and smaller cogs when riding uphill and using
> the bigger cogs.
>
> My rear derailler is Shimano XT low-normal / rapid rise, cassette
> Shimano XT 11-34 and chain Shimano XT. Cranks are Sugino XD2 46/36/26.
> The chain length is like Sheldon Browns recommends.
>
> I’ve been trying different strategies on shifting as well as reducing
> the pedal pressure. The latter almost to the point of loosing my speed
> altogether.
>
> I’d appreciate any help or guidance with my problem. Maybe I’m just
> too new to the shifters (around 500 miles), but I feel like I’m just
> not getting it :(
>
> J

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[RBW] Re: Sugino XD cranks/chainring question

[RayO]

Mike,
I did almost exactly the same thing with my Saluki.
I have DT Silver shifters and there is no noticable
difference between ramped/pinned vs. non-ramped/pinned
when shifting.

Don't forget to change the bottom bracket.
When you go from a triple to a double you wont need all that spindle.
(Unless you want the wider Q factor, that is)

RayO

On Feb 9, 6:22 pm, Mike  wrote:
> I'm in the process of changing out cranks on my Hilsen. I'll be
> switching from a Sugino triple to a Sugino compact double. The double
> has 48/34 rings but I think what I want is 46/34. My Rambouillet has a
> 46t chainring on it that I might cannabalize but I'm thinking of just
> using the 46t ring off the triple. The 48t ring is clearly ramped and
> pinned. The 46t ring on the triple does not look ramped at all. Is
> that correct? It seemed to shift fine. I notice that the Sugino
> chainrings that Riv uses have "no ramps or pins", are those the same
> as the chainrings that come on the crank?
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: 650B dead or alive?

[RayO]

Ken,
What does industrial mayonaise taste like?

On May 13, 10:17 am, Ken Mattina  wrote:
> Right now I have four pairs of hetres that are hermetically sealed in an
> industrial mayonnaise jar in my basement.  I also have four pairs of pari
> motos on the way.  I eventually will hoard 4 pairs of every known 650b tire
> known to mankind.
>
> Also I have an extra unused 650b wheelset.  I have two hubsets that I want
> to have built up for my 650b stockpile.
>
> Funny you say?
>
> Go ahead and laugh you fools.
>
> We'll see who's laughing after the 650b apocalypse.
>
> Ken
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Sean Whelan wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tubular tire aging is discussed here:
>
> >http://branfordbike.com/articles/tubular-tires-pg87.htm
>
> > --- On *Thu, 5/13/10, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> > *wrote:
>
> > From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: 650B dead or alive?
> > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
> > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:13 AM
>
> > Now I feel like a crackpot, which isn't an unfamiliar feeling for me,
> > in case you were wondering! My original post suggested a modest
> > "stockpile" of two rims and four tires. Not exactly a lifetime supply
> > to get one through the apocalypse, but enough to get one through a
> > temporary shortage or the inventory bottlenecks that frequently affect
> > the supply of bike parts (it was nearly impossible to get 27"/630
> > tires of ANY kind in the summer of 2008, for example).
>
> > Tires and tubes will keep for a long time in a cool, dark, dry place.
> > I think it helps to keep them in a plastic bag, too. I have heard that
> > some old Italian racer types would "age" their sew-ups under
> > controlled conditions for a number of years, as they would a bottle of
> > wine, apparently because they believed that aging improved the tires
> > in some way.
>
> > On May 12, 4:56 am, Jorgito 
> > http://mc/compose?to=esp...@guagua.org>>
> > wrote:
> > > Yikes, I'll have to add wheels and tires to my hoard of incandescent
> > > light bulbs. And hi, by the way; I'm regularly here reading but this
> > > is my first time posting. How long will hoarded tires and tubes keep?
>
> > > On May 12, 1:33 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> > > http://mc/compose?to=thill@gmail.com>
>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > The discussion about the new Pacenti 650B tires momentarily ventured
> > > > into commentary on "the future of 650B". I thought this was worth a
> > > > discussion of its own.
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[RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?

[RayO]

Go with a bivy sack. OR (Outdoor Research) has one that's 2lbs and
will fit in a Carradice.
Goretex with a mosquito net at the head end.



On Jul 17, 7:27 am, Mike  wrote:
> So tent or no tent for an S24O? This is actually more of a +24O where
> I'm gonna do approx 60 miles the first day and maybe 100+ the second
> day, taking in SW portions of the Mt Hood National Forest. I'm
> tentatively planning on camping by a lake so I'm thinking there's
> gonna be mosquitos so I'm thinking I might want my tent... well, and
> it is OR, so rain is always a possibility... I like the idea of nixing
> the tent as I could just carry everything in my Carradice Nelson LF
> and a medium Wald basket up front. Just kind of curious what people
> think. Obviously if there's any chance of rain in the forecast I'll
> take the tent.
>
> Tentative plan is to do this ride over two days as opposed to one day
> which totally wrecked me last year.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157621778650380/
>
> Riv content: I'm gonna ride my Hilsen.
>
> --mike

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Re: [RBW] Holy Moly. 30 minute Drone Delivery from Amazon. Need a bike part "real soon"?

[RayO]

If it walks like a duck and flaps like a duck...shoot it!
On Monday, December 2, 2013 4:25:56 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: 
>
> My earlier suggestions of this service being used for tour support were 
> made with tongue firmly planted in cheek.  Bicycle touring is about 
> self-sufficiency and independence, not being tethered to the Mother Ship.  
>
> Jan Heine today offers the suggestion that this is all a publicity stunt.  
> I am inclined to agree, especially given the timing.  The suggestion above 
> to use bicycle courier delivery is excellent.  Uses existing infrastructure 
> & available resources, ecologically beneficial, and no FAA approval.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:20:41 AM UTC-8, Skenry wrote: 
>>
>> It seems that I am in the minority here, again.  I think this is amazing 
>> combination of efficiency, technology and progress.   I would guess that it 
>> will be a long time before this is offered as part of Amazon's amazing free 
>> shipping program, until then, if you don't like the idea of it, don't 
>> spring for it. 
>>
>> Waiting a few days might be fine for some people.  Others, myself 
>> included, can't stand it.  My kid just subscribed to a magazine, he is 
>> having a hard time waiting the 6-8 weeks for processing and delivery.  He 
>> wanted to know why it takes so long to get started and I have no clue.  Its 
>> no different than we just went thru on this list a few weeks ago with the 
>> catalog mailing.  No one likes to wait, once you decide you want it, you 
>> want it as fast as possible.  
>>
>> Realistically though, this will be a cost per usage issue.  I usually 
>> just shop for price, which means Amazon and the free shipping option, but I 
>> have been known to spring for two-day or next day shipping if its not too 
>> crazily priced.   Remember that progress is always cheap but it isn't 
>> always bad either.
>> Scott
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Scott Henry
>> Dayton, OH
>>
>> FTM-PTB
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Tom Virgil  wrote:
>>
>>> My dog is not going to like the 
>>> octocopter.
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[RBW] Re: Cover of Bicycle Times Magazine

[RayO]

I just can't get into reading on a "device".  It is so much better to slop 
my breakfast on on paper.
On Friday, July 18, 2014 10:39:05 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote:
>
> I subscribe to Bicycle Times as mentioned and Momentum Magazine in digital 
> format. I just started a subscription to BQ and have yet to read my first 
> copy. It has sat on my end table for three weeks, I just can't read a paper 
> magazine, I just don't find it enjoyable on so many levels. I will finish 
> out my one year subscription and unless it becomes digital will not be 
> renewing. 
>
> I love being able to have all my reading on one device. I can look at 
> earlier issues of BT and MM and I have all my books on the same device 
> including my favorite Just Ride. Then I can read Google Groups RBW threads, 
> without skipping a beat. Then I can go ride my bike. 
>
> On Thursday, July 17, 2014 6:33:40 PM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote:
>>
>> Received my digital version of the magazine and on the cover is a 
>> Hunqapillar. 
>>
>>
>> Check out the cover here . 
>>
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[RBW] Re: 650b and the MTB crowd.

[RayO]

You have Stronglight chainrings?!

On Feb 16, 4:28 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> In the oddball little Rivendell niche, a shop could conceivably stock most
> of the parts of interest, most of the time. In the broader world of bikes,
> however, it's impossible. There's just too much, and since few shops can
> isolate themselves in a niche and survive, we have to be ready for anybody
> who walks through the door, from the guy who rides dumpstered X-mart BSOs
> to the bleeding edge roadie to the retrogrouch looking for a wide selection
> of toe clips and straps to the antiquarian who wants us to find chainrings
> for his old Stronglight crank. Here, when we're busy, "we can order it for
> you" means "it'll be here tomorrow". Still, I get a chuckle when customers
> tell me, "that's ok, I'll try some other shops" when I'm 99% certain that
> no local shop would intentionally stock such a low-demand item. Good luck,
> I say! Anyway, "we can order it for you" is not the kiss of death. They'll
> likely get it faster that you would from Harris or whatever, and if it's a
> good shop they'll keep you from making a mistake.

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[RBW] Re: Unique Hillborne for sale on the Bay

[RayO]

I feel just the opposite.

On Feb 24, 11:38 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:
> There's nothing odd-looking about v-brakes to anyone who has been around
> mountain bikes in the past 15-20 years (but before everything had discs).
> I've never understood the claim that cantilevers have superior aesthetics,
> especially since (IMO) they work worse and are fiddly to set up and keep
> adjusted.
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2012 12:59:38 PM UTC-6, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > The 1st gen green Sams have canti posts.
> > I put v-brakes on mine.
> > Looks a bit odd but works great.
>
> > Jay
>
> > On Feb 24, 8:42 pm, Peter M  wrote:
> > > Not related at all to seller, looks like an interesting conversion to
> > > cantis, I would need a whole repaint because I am OCD, thank god it is
> > > not my size.
>
> > >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-60cm-frameset-/190645...- 
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[RBW] Re: ISO right-side silver shifter

[RayO]

Riv sells the innards.

On Mar 8, 2:04 pm, Garth  wrote:
> Have you tried cleaning/lubing it ?   I find it hard to imagine the little
> ratchets are word, but they could get gunked up, not unlike what can happen
> to  freewheel pawls with old thick grease.   Otherwise I have a set of ST
> Power Shifters for you.  No right only, just a set.  I have a left only , I
> don't know where it even came from as I've never had an issue with any
> shifter .

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[RBW] Re: 17/20 Dingles: $18 shipped CONUS or TRADE? Other things too!

[RayO]

I thought I knew bicycles...but what is a "Dingle" and do I need a shiny 
one?
On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: 
>
> I have two 17/20 Dingles that are refractory to my ring/stay/cog 
> desiderata. Both used, both show no signs of wear X/C dirt, both $18 
> shipped CONUS. I've ordered a 17/19. 
>
> I am open to trades -- as Cajun chef Justin Wilson replied when asked what 
> wine goes best with his gumbo, "Watcha got?" Surprise me: I can't use these 
> things.
>
> Note that you need a 9 speed chain or narrower for the Dingle.
>
> Also: those very pretty, very good, very silver, very smoth M324s -- 
> trade offers?
>
> Oh, and the <5 mile Decksters *with* spd cleats: $20 shipped CONUS!
>
> Oh again: big bag of miscellaneous slotted cleats including 3-bolt Look 
> compatible pair from Yellow Jersey (the predecessor to their current 2-bolt 
> ditto) and some NIP nail-on metal cleats. Make offer for the whole thing. 
> See (the Rivat cleats at bottom left in the Baggie are gone):
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#5885398406346611874
>
> Also some Super Champion "Record du Monde" tubular rims -- see 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#
>
>  
> -- 
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> patric...@resumespecialties.com 
>
> Albuquerque, NM
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[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

[RayO]

I just rode my 28 year old Pinnarello 70 miles...my Ford is 7 years
old.


On Aug 6, 4:53 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 01:56 -0700, Matt Beebe wrote:
> > Bicycles are open, while modern automobiles are black, disposable
> > boxes.
>
> How long do most riders keep the same bicycle?  Looking at folks I know
> in the bike clubs I belong to, I get the feeling people keep their cars
> longer than their bicycles.

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[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?

[RayO]

I have found that using DT friction shifters on anything with more
than 7 cogs
is too fussy due to the reduced space between the cogs.

I have the Silver DT's on a bike ith a 9 speed and I am always
overshifting.

6 and 7, no problems.

On Aug 16, 4:43 pm, lungimsam  wrote:
> 3rd review down on link below has a cat that uses them on 10speed and says
> they work. But no details.
> I would call Rivendell and ask. Let us know the reply.
> I am thinking of getting some someday for my 10-speed cassette, as I am now
> using DT shifters on my bar ends.:http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh1no.htm

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[RBW] Re: First Dixie Mtn ride of 2013.

[RayO]

You came close to my house, Mike.

On Feb 21, 8:07 am, Mike  wrote:
> Yesterday my friend Ed and I rode Dixie Mtn, a local ride here in Portland
> that takes in miles of dirt climbs. We did what I consider to be the
> "classic" route which goes out to Scappoose and takes in Otto Miller Rd.
> Dixie Mtn can also be ridden from Washington County. No rain. No
> mechanicals. Miles of quiet roads. A little exploration. Just a really nice
> day on the bike. I wasn't on my Hilsen, but I was on my LHT which is very
> Riv-centric.
>
> For Portland Riv listers, Smitty and I have been talking about doing a Riv
> ride out that way. I'm not sure what the total mileage would be but bring
> your climbing legs.
>
> Here's some 
> pictures:http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157632818000164/with...
>
> mike

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