[RBW] Drops vs albatross. Easy to swap or do I need two bikes?

[Michael]

Looking for a single bike for casual rides on bike paths/paved/gravel/dirt 
roads with the occasional 100 mile ride thrown in. Will suggest the Sam 
Hillborne, which I'm leaning towards. I assumed I would build it with drops 
for the long rides but I recently fell in love with albatross bars for 
upright lazy bike path rides. 
Is there a way to quickly/easily swap handlebars or are two bikes 
inevitable? 
Would a Sam with drops and an appaloosa or atlantis w/ albatross be a good 
combo or is that too much overlap? 

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[RBW] Sam Riders - help me pick the right size! 88 pbh

[Michael]

New to Rivendell bikes and looking to snag a sam; will most likely use 
albastache or albatross bars, possibly road but not initially.  PBH is 88 
and im thinking size 57. What is your experience? 
Thank you! 

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[RBW] Re: Sam Riders - help me pick the right size! 88 pbh

[Michael]

Thank you for the response! Thinking the 57 should work for me. Enjoy your 
Clem!

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:42:51 PM UTC-4 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Michael
>
> If it helps, I had a 60cm (double top tube) Sam, and sold it because I 
> thought it was just a bit big *for my* 89cm pbh. While I regret selling 
> now, I know I'd have preferred the then optional 58cm Sam. 
>
> Now that I'm riding more off-road, and appreciate the clearance, I'd 
> likely go for the 57cm size (and am so tempted to, if I wasn't just 
> finishing building a Clem L). 
>
> The new Sams are so nice. Enjoy!
>
> - Chris 
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 10:28:30 AM UTC-7 Michael wrote:
>
>> New to Rivendell bikes and looking to snag a sam; will most likely use 
>> albastache or albatross bars, possibly road but not initially.  PBH is 88 
>> and im thinking size 57. What is your experience? 
>> Thank you! 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

[Michael]

57 Green here

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 3:02:30 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

>
> Done. 51cm Periwinkle for my 3rd Sam. If people think I'm being piggy I'll 
> consider letting it go. 
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
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Re: [RBW] A. Homer Hilsen Photo Thread

[Michael]

Beautiful Bike. What year? 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 11:43:22 AM UTC-4 David Hays wrote:

> My A Homer Hilsen on a ride today at Dann Lake.
>
>
> David Hays
> Buffalo, New York
>
> [image: A-Homer-Hilsen-at-Dann-Lake.jpg]
>
> On May 9, 2024, at 8:00 PM, Paul Richardson  wrote:
>
> best bike in the world!!!  the longer i ride it, the deeper my 
> conviction.  yours is lookin' great tim--so glad you joined the homer club!
>
> and as long as we're on the subject, i've been poring over the 2008 
> catalog that's currently available on the site for $1 (!) and would just 
> like to shout into the void that i would love to get my hands on one of 
> these homer caps.  or heck maybe enough of us aficionados could pool 
> resources and do a small custom run of the same design!  
>
> best bike in the world!!!
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> 
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[RBW] DIY build or order complete?

[Michael]

Hi all, 
Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle 
building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike 
before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically 
inclined. 

Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a 
beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been 
wiser to just order it complete? 

Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something stupid!

Thanks,

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Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?

[Michael]

Thanks for the input everyone! While I agree that building the bike would 
be much more rewarding and I am confident in my ability to learn, I also I 
want to make sure this bike reaches its full potential so think I am going 
to go ahead and let Riv build this one up.  I wasn't aware of their labor 
cost but from the sounds of it, it will probably be more economical having 
them do it anyway. Thanks again!!

On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:06:06 AM UTC-4 mwill...@gmail.com wrote:

> I vote DIY. Just do LOTS of research. YouTube and the mechanics section of 
> Bike Forums have served me well. I also have around a thousand dollars 
> worth of bike specific tools. You could probably save some money here or 
> there by “making” some of the tools (YouTube can show you how). But, just 
> know that there’s a lot more to assembling a bike than some think. For 
> instance, I recently got my lugged Susie, and used my fairly new derailleur 
> hanger adjustment gauge to check the hanger. It was off both vertically and 
> horizontally. It looked straight to my eye, but wasn’t.  If you choose not 
> to do it yourself, I’d definitely vote Rivendell over local shop. They 
> would know that a 7 speed cassette with a 9 speed crank and a 10 speed 
> chain CAN work beautifully. When I asked my local shop (a Trek dealer) once 
> about chasing and facing a bottom bracket on a Surly Cross Check, they 
> seemed puzzled. So, I spent a few hundred dollars on the tool, watched some 
> videos, and did it myself. Turned out great.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 28, 2024, at 11:32 AM, Michael  wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle 
> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike 
> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically 
> inclined. 
>
> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a 
> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been 
> wiser to just order it complete? 
>
> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something 
> stupid!
>
> Thanks,
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[RBW] Anodized Silver vs Polished Components. Which do you prefer?

[Michael]

I'm struggling to decide between polished vs anodized silver for Bronze 
Green Sam build. This would be for
-Brakes
-Brake Levers
-Rims
-Edelux Light

I went into this sold on polished but folks at Riv have me reconsidering. 
Anyone have input?
Thanks

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[RBW] Re: Anodized Silver vs Polished Components. Which do you prefer?

[Michael]

Good suggestion with the gold, I bet that would look nice!  Riv recommended 
I go with silver rather than polished for aesthetics, which is why i'm 
reconsidering. I originally thought the dark green frame paired with dark 
brown brooks saddle & polished components (fenders, brakes, brake levers & 
wheels) would look sharp, but maybe I don't have taste?

On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 10:43:20 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Personally I like the polished components from Paul and WI and the satiny 
> finish on Nitto and I opted for the silver(polished) Paul racers and WI 
> hubs on my 2016 mixte(metallic burgundy). My personal opinion is that 
> silver doesn't detract from the elegance of a Riv frame which is the star 
> of the show. OTOH, Leah's anodized builds are so fun. Some dark gold 
> anodized parts would be nice with that bronze-green, I bet.
>
> After prolonged use; you are going to RIDE the bike after all, the 
> components and the paint job are going to show beausage whether they're 
> anodized or polished. 
>
> @Michael...what did Riv HQ say that made you reconsider?
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 11:05:01 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> Anodised will look a bit better a few years down the road than polished.
>>
>> On the Mason that I most recently built up, I had no choice of colour for 
>> a lot of the components I was using - e.g. C-F rims are black, SRAM AXS 
>> shifters/derailleurs are black, the Shimano XT M737 cranks I had are silver 
>> anodised, as was the Ritchey seatpost, but I decided on a bit of colour 
>> co-ordination to go with the Orange BxB saddlebag I already had and would 
>> be using, so I fitted orange Hope disc calipers and used orange handlebar 
>> tape.
>>
>> Nick Payne
>>
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[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

[michael]

On Mar 15, 8:03 pm, eflayer  wrote:
> not sure what the points of view are, but this guy, to me, is an hot
> air baloonfull of hot air. Not even considering his point of view
> about helmets, just how arrrogant he sounds/is:
>
> http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video/911034/mikael-colville-andersen

Most TED talks are pretty interesting. Intended to get people
thinking. As for helmets and cycling, I think there are systemic
reasons beyond helmets at play here which keep people from using a
bike for daily commuting... Consider how profitable McDonalds is
despite the health implications - convenience and habit are likely
factors.

On helmets: I live in Dallas where it is illegal to bicycle without
one, but legal for motorcyclists to go without. Doesn't make much
sense to me. So, I wear a helmet when cycling in Dallas. Beyond that,
I consider the ride and sometimes go without.

Michael McCarthy

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[RBW] Re: Big Rivendell Sale Today Only

[Michael]

>
> Looks like a great sale.
>
I really wanted to get those XL MUSA long pant blowout ones. 50% off plus 
10% off. Wow! (plus free shipping if I add a coupla more items).
But I don't know if XL would be the right size. Too bad I am not there to 
try them on.
But they look really nice and comfy for riding. I like those reflective 
strips.
The new black ones look even better.

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[RBW] Re: updated Rambouillet with improved Tektro 559's

[Michael]

>
> I use 700 x 25 Conti gatorskins on my race-ish bike.
>
I really like them.
They are light and fast slicks. They handle great on wet roads.
 
Too bad no 650b sizes from Conti though on these models.
If they came out in 650b x 32 I think I would try them.
 
But I do love the 650b Marathons and Hetres I use so far.

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil 60cm - Planning to sell

[Michael]

>
> That headbadge is absolutely "dil-icious". I didn't read your comment 
> about it until after I admired it.
>
 
 

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[RBW] What do Rivendell riders use for bicycle saddles? 3 questions for RivRiders.

[Michael]

Since I asked about shorts, I thought I'd ask about saddles, too.
 
1. What are the most comfortable saddles that you use? Please give the full 
name of the saddle (like, don't say just "Terry saddle", if it was a "Terry 
Liberator Y Gel saddle").
 
2. Please state for which kind of riding you use the saddle (ex: 
racing/touring/dirt/stunt/commuting/drops/upright, etc.).
 
3. On which of your bikes do you use the saddle (ex: 
Riv/All-R/Lego/Cust/Ram/Rom/Red/Bomb/Ap/At/Bet/Yv/Sam/Hunq/Road/Glor/Wilb/Bler/Homer/Simp/Quick/whatever
 
other models they make)?
 
4. Feel free to link to a pic of your saddle.
 
Interesting to read about these things.
For instance, I read that someone stated they used their B67 or 68 
for bars-below-saddle riding, though contrary to its designed purpose, I 
think.
 
Always nice to hear that people are using gear outside the box with success.
Helps keep perspective and not always buy into the "no you can't" gear 
zeitgeists that are always flying around bicycle circles.

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[RBW] Re: first century tomorrow - any last minute tips?

[Michael]

>
> Congrats on your first century! Hopefully I will be doing mine in October.

 
Seems like people say to pace yourself in the beginning of the ride to save 
up the energy for later.
 
I also hear drinking a Coke or Pepsi at the 80 mile point gives you a sugar 
and caffeine kick that makes the riding more pleasant at the end.
 
Does that count as doping though?
 

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[RBW] WTT: (2) Rumpkins for (1) Hetre

[Michael]

A set of Fatty Rumpkins in good shape. Tread looks like lotsa life left on 
them.
These are *not* the Force Fields. These are the original tan colored 
sidewalls.
 
I think two Rumpkins for one Hetre is a fair trade.
 
If you've never ridden them before (as if, on this forum), they are 
ultra-cush tires. Very smooth and nice on paved roads. Never used off road, 
so couldn't say. But they are supposed to be good for that, too.
 
Email me for pics and questions. They have just been hangin' around for a 
while in the garage, and I figure I'd be better off trading them for a 
Hetre to match my Hetre-setted bike.
 
 

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[RBW] Re: Post Courage Classic Pictures

[Michael]

>
> Imagine passing someone while they are on a carbon bike in full kit while 
> you are on your fully loaded Rivendell in street clothes and shoes (or 
> barefoot) *with a smouldering pipe in your mouth, puffing away, bolt 
> upright on Albas with a smile on your face!*
>
 
BTW, I love all bikers and never want to make fun of any. My hat's off to 
the kit-carbon riders. They amaze me with their speed and ease. Must take a 
lot of dedication.
 
And, please don't smoke.

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[RBW] WTT: "42"-584 HS420 Marathon for "44"-584 HS420 Marathon.

[Michael]

Looks like *42*-584 Marathon HS420 tires are discontinued by Schwalbe as of 
last fall 2012. New model is 44-584. The new model 44 Sidewall says *"44-584" 
*and *"650x42".*
 
*If you have a 44-584 to trade for my 42, let me know. Thanks.*
 
I have a single "42". I never rode/mounted it. Got it from a list member 
who said he got it at Riv garage sale, I think in 2012? Very low miles on 
it he said. Looks like practically new. Clean. 
 
Looking for a 44-584 as a spare match for my 44-584 set that came on my new 
Sam last spring. Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: Moselle Valley ride

[Michael]

>
> In the USA, you only see views like that if you are watching a movie.
>
 
 
 
Beautiful. Thanks for sharing. 

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Re: [RBW] first century tomorrow - any last minute tips?

[Michael]

So. D'jyuh survive?
I'm guessing you are sleeping right now.
Can't wait to see the pics and hear how it was.

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[RBW] Re: That Betty Foy is some bicycle!

[Michael]

>
> Congrats!! Beautiful bike. Those lugs are so nice.
>

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[RBW] Re: How do you use YOUR Rivendell triangle?

[Michael]

I like those triangles.

But I feel safer with a reflective vest.
Level of reflective strips and bright colors are up higher, surface area 
bigger, and people in front as well as  back can see it.
I don't know if a vest is better for safety or not. I just feel more 
comfortable with a vest.

Of course. I have a bad track record. I got hit by a car last year. Perhaps a 
triangle would have been better!

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[RBW] What's with the MUSA shorts? Clue me in please.

[Michael]

Everyone seems to love them for their biking comfort.
 
I am not particularly comfortable cycling in everyday shorts or sweatpants 
on bikes (though 98% of my riding is done in them),
so I don't see how the MUSA's will be an improvement for me.
Am I missing something?
 
I would like to experience the benefits you all are getting from them.
But before dropping the serious coin on them, need more info about what 
makes them better than any other regular pants.
Thanks for your help.

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[RBW] Re: What's with the MUSA shorts? Clue me in please.

[Michael]

>
> I just bought a pair of the blowout long MUSA's. Figure they may be good 
> for the fall/winter with something warm under them.
>
Thanks for the info.
I may try the shorts if I see them on clearance, too.

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[RBW] Re: Cockpit Change-out's

[Michael]

>
> I went from drops to Moustaches to Alba's on my Sam.
>
 
I had Tiagra road brake levers and bar end shifters on the original drops. 
 
*Drops to Moustaches -*  Just loosen and remove bar end shifter levers and 
road brake levers and remount them on the Moustache after installing stache 
onto the stem. *No need to disconnect any cables/housings if they are long 
enough for the new bar height you will set.* Simple. No need to adjust 
tension on cables after, I found, either. Still braked and shifted the same 
after the switch.
 
*Moustaches/drops to Alba's* - Buy Alba's and 24.4 clamp stem for it if you 
don't already have one (or NITTO 26-to-25.4 shim at rivbike.com or LBS), 
new MTB brake levers (that will work with your existing type of brake 
calipers), and new mountain bike brake cables. You can use existing 
housings if they prove to be long enough. No need to undo the shifter 
cables if they prove to be long enough. You will need to use new MTB brake 
cables because the MTB levers don't take a road mushroom cable end. They 
have that flattened cylinder looking end. Mount Albas onto new stem, or old 
26 clamp stem with NITTO shim, brake levers next, grips, then bar end 
shifters. Install and adjust new MTB brake cables.
 If no grips, bartape away.
 
It is really easy to swap everything. Fun, too.
Most time consuming thing is getting brake levers set up at the angles you 
want. Depends how perfectionistic you want to be with it. Drops are the 
worst for this because you have to set the lever level and angle and then 
level the other lever to the first one. Moustaches are easy and fun. Alba's 
are even easier.

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[RBW] Re: Albas & the German Mirror

[Michael]

>
> I like an eyeglass mirror that sticks to the inside of your glasses. 
> Tricky to get the angle set right at first, but works great once you get it.
>
Works best on flattish frames and not wrap arounds. But does work on one of 
my wrap arounds. Frees up cockpit space, and no arms in the way.
You just look at the mirror and do a little scan with your head to see 
everything behind you.
Works great to even look over your back at upcoming cars on the on ramps 
you may be about to cross to get to the shoulder.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Cycleaware-Viewpoint-Eyewear-Mirror-Round/dp/B00012345A/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1377036789&sr=8-10&keywords=bike+glasses+mirror

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[RBW] Re: Custom Riv on the 'bay

[Michael]

>
> Is that considered a high starting bid price for a ~15 year old frame that 
> sold for about 1050$ new (in 1996)?
>
What am I missing? 

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Re: [RBW] Custom Riv on the 'bay

[Michael]

Oops... I see it is a 2000 model -not 1996.
My bad. 

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[RBW] Re: The Secret to Success.

[Michael]

>
> Uh oh...Looks like Soma Fabrications added one of your pics to their 
> favorites...keep an eye on that one...
>
 
 
AnywayHappy Birthday, Manny. Looks like you have some great times on 
the bike on the west coast there! Thanks for sharing! 
 

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[RBW] Re: Traveling with a bike

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>
> If you are going to SF, call RBW and see if you can rent one of theirs.
>

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[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!

[Michael]

>
> Congrats! Beautiful bike.

What kinda bartape is that? Looks real nice! 

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[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update

[Michael]

>
> Would it take a triple crank?
>
 
I am just thinking that a 40t x 26t. double crank seems like it needs a 
middle ring.
 
40 would be too high to stay in for long, I would think, unless you are on 
dead flats or downhills, or a strong rider (I couldn't do it).
The small ring would be too light, I would think, unless doing lotsa steep 
uphills, or loaded touring.
 
Just throwing out some thoughts.
Sounds like it is gonna be a great bike whatever you choose though! Enjoy! 
And be sure to post pics.

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[RBW] Re: Stolen Rivendell, Toronto area?

[Michael]

>
> You could ask for SN and proof of purchase.
>
If none available, you could talk to his Dad and then confirm with RBW that 
they sold it to him.
 
But looks like it needs a new paint job for sure.
The headset looks Rivish. 

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[RBW] Re: back problems

[Michael]

>
> Deacon Patrick,
>
 
So you mean, that whenever you sit at home, you are on the floor, cross 
legged, leaning on nothing? What positions do you find you can maintain for 
longest?
 

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[RBW] Re: back problems

[Michael]

>
> Don,
>
 
What core exercises do you do now? 

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[RBW] RBW SKS Mini Pump questions for users.

[Michael]

Description on site doesn't mention these things I'd like to know before 
buying. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pu3.htm
Thought you guys and gals would know.
 
1.How many pumps to 55 psi? Just looking for ballpark. 200pumps? Or more 
like 50 pumps?
2.How does it switch over to presta. Built in? Or you have to buy your own 
adapter?
3.How do you like it?

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[RBW] Re: Limited Edition Betty Foy Color

[Michael]

>
> Very pretty. I like it better than the regular Foy blue.
>
 

> Looks like a "smoked" Foy. Like the same color, just with the smoke look 
> added to it.
>
 

> The Sam Blue has that smoked blue look to it, too.
>

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[RBW] 3 unpainted Saluki's at Rivbike

[Michael]

See 8/22 Blug
 
http://rivbike.tumblr.com/

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[RBW] Re: Faster Fat Tires

[Michael]

>
> I was into all black tires from 2009-2012. That's all I ever used on road 
> bikes.

But a season on my tan-wall Rumpkins and Swiftys, and now I like the 
tan-wall looks just as much.
 
My new Sam has black Marathons on it now.
I am too chicken to try commuting on my Hetres yet.
Lotsa trashy, glassy shoulders on my commute.
One of these days I will have to try it.
I hear they do well despite not having puncture protection.
I am hopefully going to use them on the Sam on a Century ride in October.
If they perform that much better, I may just keep them on permanently.
 

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[RBW] Re: Mackinaw Island -

[Michael]

>
> Looks like a fun place to live if you like bikes.
>
 
T-t-too c-c-c-old for me in winter... 

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[RBW] Re: Summer is over...(For me anyway)

[Michael]

>
> Manny, did you do any Rando rides this summer?
>
I remember you did some brevets last year I think. 

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[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

[Michael]

>
> Let me add,* bolt upright* on Albas might be worth a try.
>
You may need a shorter stem, like an 8cm extension to get the bars back far 
enough. That's what my Alba setup is. Least amount of weight possible on 
hands - bolt upright.
I still get some hand stuff going on though. 
 
I knew a guitarist once who told me that using those hand grips exercisers 
eliminated his CT, if I remember correctly. Perhaps he caught it early. I 
remember him grabbing a guitar neck to pick one up and yelling out loud 
because it hurt.

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[RBW] Sam creaking today with new set up. Any advice?

[Michael]

*What Happened:*
After about 10 miles riding, something on bars/stem started creaking when I 
put weight on the right ramp, hood, and drops. Left side doesn't creak if I 
put weight on it.
I tightened the hood, and stem bar clamp. Stem bolt is tight. Bars still 
squeak but not as bad.
** 
*Info history:*
I put my new, from RBW, 41 Noodles on it and set it up as close as I could 
to my dependable Giant bike set up.
Bars 1.3cm below saddle height. Feels great. Nitto Deluxe stem 190 rise. 
Only about 3mm's left before stem extension bottoms out by hitting the 
headset lock nut. So I think stem wedge should be above the butt of the 
head tube if there is one. I have used this setup at higher bar levels and 
no creaking. Just today after setting it 1.3cm below saddle. At 1cm below 
saddle, no creaks either.
 
BTW, I *lightly* greased the stem below min insertion point and wedge when 
installing.
 
*Ideas?:*
Maybe needs grease on bar cuff at stem clamp?
More grease on stem and wedge?
Maybe the stem being all the way down in steer tube is creaking because so 
much of it is contacting the inside of steer tube now and the whole rise 
shaft need grease?
 
New 41 Noodle from RBW, so I don't think the bar would have a crack in it 
that creaks. The bars are flexy (both sides) and I can see them flex when I 
push hard on the drops. I did this with bike stopped to try to make it 
creak to see where the noise is coming from.
 
*Any other ideas come to mind?*
 
 

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[RBW] Re: Sam creaking today with new set up. Any advice?

[Michael]

>
> I think I will inspect the stem bolts just to be sure nothing is cracking 
> there. Then I'll regrease everything and reinstall.
>
Thanks for the tips.
 
Matt, what is the name of that stuff you used?
 
Keep them coming if anyone else has any ideas.
 

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[RBW] Re: Sam creaking today with new set up. Any advice?

[Michael]

>
> Thanks, Jim.
>
 
I did take out the stem and regreased the steerer tube, wedge and extension 
really thoroughly.
Looked dry when I took it out. So I guess that was the issue.
Reinstalled and went riding. No more creak. Yay! Hope it stays creak-free.

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[RBW] FS: XO-1, Bleriot

[Michael]

But Bleriots are great for short rides...

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[RBW] Re: 14 Sep - DC Area Atlantis Ride

[Michael]

>
> I would have seriously been considering this, but I will be out of town on 
> the 14th. Too bad. Sounds like fun!
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo as Commuter

[Michael]

>
> Why not commute on it? That sounds like a great idea.
>
Slap a carradice saddle bag and fenders on it and you're done.
I see you have a dynamo/hub setup. That looks like a great bike or 
commuting.

>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/sets/72157635430844965/
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[RBW] Re: WTB - Hey Ho a Bleriot ( 57cm Frame/Fork)

[Michael]

>
> You could try over on the BOG. Bleriot Owners' Group. Pretty defunct now, 
> but some of them do read posts there.
>
 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_BOG/
 
You could also try the Bleriot cyclofiend page. I think they have a link to 
a list of Bleriot owners. along with their bike stats. You could find the 
owners with a 57cm size and email them.
 
What is your PBH?

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[RBW] Re: Bosque, after rain, 091113

[Michael]

>
> What are Stan's, and how do they make tires puncture proof?
>  

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Hey Ho a Bleriot ( 57cm Frame/Fork)

[Michael]

>
> search all of craigslist at once:
>
 http://www.my-craigs-finder.com/

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[RBW] Blue Rivendell sighting in MD

[Michael]

Saw guy riding a dark blue drop bar cream headtube "Rivendell" on DT bike today 
by BWI airport in MD. He was oncoming on the MUP.
I yelled "Rivendell" as I went by, but rider didn't stop to talk. I slowed to 
check.

It was a really nice dark blue. Looked like it may have been metallic. Hard to 
tell. Didn't have time to notice the build on it. It was a lean and spry 
looking bike and rider. They matched!

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[RBW] 70 mile ride today

[Michael]

So, for my first century training over the last 2 months, I have gone from 
25 and 40 mile rides, up to a metric century last Saturday, and then I did 
a 70 miler today.
Beautiful riding through hilly suburban areas and the Grist Mill Trail and 
the B&A Trail, which runs from BWI Airport to Annapolis.
 
I took the Noodle Sam, and I am hoping to ride it for the century ride. 
Very comfortable. Great handling. Very smooth and cushy ride. I am really 
enjoying it. I like the Carradice bag a lot. Great to hold everything I 
need and clothes that I take off during the ride as I warm up. So 
convenient.
 
I really wanted to take more pics. There was a lot of cool stuff to see, 
but I don't like breaking my rhythm so much once I get going. Thinking 
about time, too as the rides have been getting longish.
 
Anyway, here are some shots, just for fun. Sorry for the bad pics.
 
The Lord willing, I will be able to ride and complete the Seagull Century 
on Oct. 5th.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/9739648204/in/set-72157635510486108/
 

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[RBW] The state of cycling on Canton, China

[Michael]

Just came back from visiting family there. Always cool to see the bikes 
there, and the interesting add-ons and problem solvers people come up with 
to make a bike work the way they want..
Took lotsa pics I hope to have up tonight on Flikr and saw some stuff I 
thought you all would get a kick out of.
 
Looks like the bikes there are ridden for pure function. I saw maybe 95% 
function bikes. 5% roadbikes/fixies.
Forget about helmets, even for children on bikes and infants who ride with 
Mom on the commute. "Too hot", my cousin said when I asked her why no one 
wears helmets.
Bikes zig-zag all over the road, and bikes don't stop for lights or stops 
signs. They come at moving car traffic from all directions.
The rule of the road there is that if you are the bigger vehicle, and you 
hit a smaller vehicle, you are to blame, and no one wants that trouble, so 
people give way to bikes, mopeds, and pedestrians. I saw lotsa of cyclists 
just pull out in front of moving busses and cars (within feet). Also, bikes 
go the wrong way on roads. I saw no road rage, and everyone just seems to 
accept the fact that bikes have no rules of the road, and they can just 
ride however and wherever, whenever they want. Mopeds, too.
 
Some things I saw. Pics to some:
1. Double top tubes abound. I saw these on lots of Chinese maker, 
traditional type 2-wheeled bikes. (There were also double forks on 3 
wheeled delivery bikes).
2. Massive beausage abounds. - to the point of rusted out front baskets 
that the sides have separated from the base and just sit there loose on it. 
I also saw trashed headsets, one with the bb's still sitting in the lower 
cup. This was on a newspaper delivery bike. It was still in use.
3. Self rigged problem solvers abound. - Some of the solutions I saw on 
bikes to make them work they way people wanted them were very interesting. 
One guy had a basket wired to his drop bar tops with only about 2 finders' 
worth of interruptor brake lever to grab for use. And these were the only 
brake levers on the bike. He also had plastic bottles wired as extensions 
on his short fenders.
4. Cool add ons you don't see here in the states (at least I haven't). 
Umbrella clamps, so you can attach an umbrella to your handlebars and ride 
under cover. Folds down when not in use. Massively overbuilt rear racks or 
heavy loads and passengers. Some fold out to make bigger platforms, with 
cushioned seat. 
 
*One of the most unique things I saw were the child seat attachments for 
bikes.*
Lots of people bring their infants on their bikes with them. There are some 
child seats that are made of wire and attach to the frame sorta like the 
Silver Hupes.
Also, some people weld a seatpost to their DT so the kid rides in front. 
Both set ups have a "T" bar welded to the frame so the kids can hold on 
while Mom pedals.
I saw someone with two kids on their bike.
 
I will post a link to pics of these neat things I saw hopefully today or 
tomorrow.
 
I also noticed that it looks like electric bikes are overtaking the number 
of pedaled bikes. Even some pedaled bikes were retrofitted and run on 
electricity now.
The batteries are rectangular and sit in front of the seat tube. Pedals are 
just for a pace to put your feet. Some people remove the pedals and sit 
with their feet on the DT. Huge hubs front and back. Not sure how it works.

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[RBW] Re: The state of cycling on Canton, China

[Michael]

>
> I was so impressed with the bikes there.
>
I just realized that I didn't get a pic of what I thought were the 
prettiest bikes there to be seen - The Guangzhou made bikes that look like 
old Raleigh three speeds. They had cassettes, though. But were those pretty 
black, dark green, and dark maroon bikes with matched color fenders. Very 
pretty bikes.
 
Here is the set:
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[RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Rambouillet - 58cm blue

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>
> I can't believe this isn't selling.

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[RBW] Re: The state of cycling on Canton, China

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>
> @ Patrick,
>
 
I saw some of those old looking, Guangzhou made bikes that looked like 
Raleigh 3 speeds.They were gorgeous, and my favorite bikes that I saw over 
there. The matching fenders are awesome.
*Since RBW is adding their own chainrings now (hopefully with logo built 
into them, like old Raleigh rings), maybe they can come out with color 
matched fenders for their frames, too.*
 
Some bikes had the rod pull brakes on them with those long brake levers 
that spanned the length of the handlebars.
 
I don't know what quality those bikes are made as nowadays, but they seemed 
pretty popular, and I saw them I all the bike shops, though they were the 
minority on the showroom floor.
There were lots of more modern, comfort bike framesets on the road it 
seemed, and lots of folder bikes. 

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[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak S30O

[Michael]

>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
Be sure to check out the wood itself, and try tightening the pedal. 

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[RBW] Hookin' up shifters question

[Michael]

Putting Albas with fric/sis bar ends onto Bleriot. Hope to be able to 
friction shift though over the 10-speed cassette.
 
*1. How hard do I pull on and hold the shifter cable when I tighten it down 
with the bolt on the derailer?*
*Really hard, or just pull gently to its full length? How do I know the 
cable tension is correct?*
** 
*2. If I need to use the barend's indexing option because it just wont 
friction shift over 10 well, what else do I need to do for adjusting cable 
tension for SIS?*
 

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[RBW] Re: The state of cycling on Canton, China

[Michael]

>
> If I ever go again, I will try wearing seersucker.
>
It was hot, and I mean hot. 90's with massive humidity. No A/C 24/7.
 
Just sucks the life outta ya.
 

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[RBW] Re: Barefoot Friendly Pedals

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>
> Patrick, you are the Cody Lundy of cyclists.
>

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[RBW] Re: Barefoot Friendly Pedals

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>
> Patrick, you are the Cody Lundin of cyclists.
>

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[RBW] Re: Gov't Shutdown - Leesburg Loop Ride Tomorrow? (10/2)

[Michael]

>
>
> I sense a Government Shut Down sale coming on at RBW.
>>
>  
> Can anyone tell me why and how much of, in one sentence, the government is 
> shutting down?
> I don't have TV (only Netflix) and don't normally follow the news.
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride/Tour Report: San Juans, Fidalgo, and Skagit Valley Tour, 12-16 Sept 2013

[Michael]

>
> I sense a Government Shut Down sale coming on at RBW.
>
 
Can anyone tell me why abd how much of, in one sentence, the government is 
shutting down?
I don't have TV (only Netflix) and don't normally follow the news.

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[RBW] Re: "Road" vs. "Mountain" quill stems: why?

[Michael]

>
> 1. Traditional stem shape for road bikes is like the "7" of the Tallux and 
> Technomics.
>
2. I think the Tallux/Technomic stems come in more stem extension length 
options (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13 cm) than dirt drop stems, which are only 
two, I think (8 and 10cm?). 
3.Looks. I like the traditional looks of the "7" shape stem much better 
than Dirt Drops sorta goose neck look.
 
 

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[RBW] WTB: 42-584 Marathon HS420

[Michael]

Anyone got one new, or in really good shape?
 
These are the discontinued *42*-584 Marathon HS420

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 42-584 Marathon HS420

[Michael]

>
> PS FYI:
>
 
I have a pair of Rumpkins in good shape to trade if anyone wants that 
instead of dough.
 
700x25 gatorskin and 700 x 25 armadillo to trade also if that works for 
anyone.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 42-584 Marathon HS420

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>
> Thanks for checking, danmc.
>

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[RBW] FS: Brooks B17 - black

[Michael]

75$ and buyer pays shipping.
Newish. Rode for a coupla months. No noticeable break in.
Proofhided. Treated with tender loving care.
Scuff marks on back edge and some cosmetic minor stuff. 1 from when I 
flipped bike over for repair. 1 from when bike fell over and contacted 
siding of my house.
 
I love these saddles, but I love Flyer saddles better. So I am selling to 
get some money to put towards another Flyer saddle.
 
Paypal happily accepted.
See it here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/sets/72157636311357616/
 

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Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

[Michael]

Have used both Racers and Tektro R559 brakes.

Paul's:
 were hard to get centered for me. So many points of adjustment possible on 
them. Hard to get cables attached. I was new to center pulls though. Got easier 
each time I messed with them. They were great with salmon pads.

R559's:
 install and set up wy easier for me.  I like them much better. More user 
friendly for an un-mechanic like me.

Both stop  and feel just as good to my unrefined hands.
I am not a brake connoisseur. So I don't know from modulation.
Not sure which (Yokozuna or Koolstop salmon pads) come from the better slopes 
of the rubber plantations. 

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[RBW] Re: About to start experimenting with centerpulls

[Michael]

>
> Have used both Racers and Tektro R559 brakes.
>
> Paul's:
>  were hard to get centered for me. So many points of adjustment possible 
> on them. Hard to get cables attached. I was new to center pulls though. Got 
> easier each time I messed with them. They were great with salmon pads.
>
> R559's:
>  install and set up wy easier for me.  I like them much better. More 
> user friendly for an un-mechanic like me.
>
> Both stop  and feel just as good to my unrefined hands.
> I am not a brake connoisseur.
>
 
Both my Pauls and Tektros were/are allen bolt ons.

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[RBW] RBW cork bar tape work good over gel strips?

[Michael]

I have Specialized Bar Phat gel on my Sam Noodles. But the tape is getting 
worn.
 
How is the Riv cork tape? Wide enough and flexible enough to wrap over bars 
with gel pads on them?
 
Anyone got pics of their bars with the RBW cork black tape on it?
 
Thanks for any info.

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Land Cruiser HS 307

[Michael]

>
> Why not use Marathons?:
>
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t001.htm

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[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

[Michael]

>
> So is it safe to let the seatpost clamp guide the rails into place?

 
If I remember correctly, all my Brookses were 1m off or so, and I just let 
the clamps guide the rails in as I tightened.
 
I once saw an instruction seat for a Terry saddle that was real persnickety 
in warning the consumer that the rails had to fit perfectly into the clamp. 
Both fore and aft as well as side to side. They seem to want their saddles 
to get mounted on a clamp that fits their saddles just so.
 

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[RBW] Need low-down on dyno hubs/lights please.

[Michael]

What types are there?
Do they cause drag? Or have they overcome that with newer technology?
 
I want something that has zero drag if such a thing exists, and more than 
800 lumens. Am I dreaming?

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[RBW] Re: Need low-down on dyno hubs/lights please.

[Michael]

>
> 500 lumens?
>

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[RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup

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>
> What kinda Tektro's?
>

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[RBW] Re: Thank you for the photos (AKA vicarious rides)

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>
> Hi Patrick,
>
Hope you can get back in the saddle soon. Hope everything is ok. 

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[RBW] Re: Stolen Romulus In Sacramento?

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>
> stolen Romulus = time for new Hilsen!!
>

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[RBW] Re: Thank you for the photos (AKA vicarious rides)

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>
> A gentleman never tells...
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[RBW] Re: Thank you for the photos (AKA vicarious rides)

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>
> Yay,Patrick!
>
Glad you are out and about again!!!
Gorgeous shots, as always.Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos

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>
> If I had to choose between the two:
>
 
*Rambouillet...*
 
*The thrill of a new bike may wear off, but a cream headtube lasts 
forever...*
 
 

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos

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>
> Just make sure that whatever you get can fit the tire/fender combo you 
> want.
>
 

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[RBW] Recommend wide cotton bartape please...

[Michael]

But not Neubaums.
Need something wider that will more easily wrap over gel padded drops.
 
Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Recommend wide cotton bartape please...

[Michael]

>
> The heavyweight version is 1.25 inches wide. Cool.
>
They have "evening Blue" color, which looks like it may match the Blue 
Hillborne frame a little.

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[RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.

[Michael]

>
> Hope they come out with wireless, hub powered lights one day.
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO 1 Bar-end Cork Grip

[Michael]

>
> Wacky suggestion:
>
 
 

> Get the full set of bar end cork grips, and put a left bar end pod into 
> the left, unused,  grip/bar end on the bike, and use the hole on the pod 
> arm to hang your keys (or anything else from). Could be a handy attachment 
> point for something.
>
Hang your sunglasses in it after riding, etc. 

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[RBW] Re: New to me, Sam Hilborne coming soon.

[Michael]

>
> Congrats! Enjoy your new bike and be sure to post pics!
>

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa 58.7 Web Special but...

[Michael]

>
> RBW can put a curve on a fork like nobody's business. That's a pretty fork 
> there.
>
That fork is so pretty that you might as well ditch your heirloom flatwear 
and just use chopsticks from now on. 
 
That bike is screaming for a cream headtube and windows, too. 

>  
>
 

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[RBW] Imperial Flyer available yet? Its on Brooks site now. Conquest back now too.

[Michael]

http://www.brooksengland.com/catalogue-and-shop/saddles/touring+%26+trekking/Flyer+Imperial/#sidecontents
 
Its about 1cm narrower than the Champion Flyer, and a little taller, too. 
 
 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 - black

[Michael]

>
> OK, 65 and you pay shipping.
>

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[RBW] Re: Imperial Flyer available yet? Its on Brooks site now. Conquest back now too.

[Michael]

>
> Looks like the conquest is 1cm narrower than a Flyer and it is also 
> taller, according to the brooks dimensions they list on their site.
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[RBW] Re: Family bike adventure

[Michael]

>
>  Peter,
>
 
The hub on the front wheel powers the headlight, and the hub on the rear 
wheel powers the tail light?
Usually I see one hub for both. But two sounds better if you get more power 
flowing to them that way.

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[RBW] Re: Family bike adventure

[Michael]

>
> Oh, OK. I see. The jockey arm threw me.
>

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[RBW] 56cm Sam Hillborne on SF craigslist

[Michael]

Wow!
Wonder why he is selling so cheap?

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Re: [RBW] Re: 56cm Sam Hillborne on SF craigslist

[Michael]

Well, the reason I call it "cheap" is only because seems like lotsa oold 
Rivs I have seen online for sale have asking prices that are for more than 
their original values from when they were production bikes. Those, I just don't 
get..

I could understand if they have Son hubs and Phil stuff and Herse this and 
Rich- built that...

Anyway, this Sam being only year old, the seller is being extremely fair for 
his asking price.
It would have made my day when I was looking for my first used Rivbike... and 
if I was a 56 size.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 - black

[Michael]

>
> Saddle is sold.
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: 56cm Sam Hillborne on SF craigslist

[Michael]

>
> Was that one of the "Stealthbornes". The ones without the cream head 
> tubes? They were like 900-something, weren't they?
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Bombadil Complete

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>
> That DT lug is Bombadilicious!

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[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.

[Michael]

>
> I vote for whichever one has a double zipper, so you can open the bottom 
> of the jacket so it doesn't bunch between your thighs and belly while 
> riding.
>
I am looking for a double zip jacket now for myself.

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