Re: [RBW] Re: Why baskets and front bags instead of rear panniers or perfect Rivendell saddlebags?

[Jacob Kersey]

Nice marmot.

On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:51:18 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> My pet marmot much prefers to ride in the airy, open basket rather than 
> buckled in the dark recesses of my Sackville. It's a thing of beauty to 
> watch the wind whip through her fur and hear the whistle through her 
> whiskers!
> [image: Screen Shot 2024-02-01 at 7.49.01 PM.png]
>
> Also, what Brenton and Neale said.
>
> Cheers, 
>
> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:18:27 PM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> If you ever want to bike-pack and go somewhere remote or accessible via 
>> single track, having your luggage up in a basket, frame bag, saddlebag, 
>> avoids the risk of catching a pannier (or both) on roots, branches, downed 
>> trees cut just wide enough for passage, etc.
>>
>> I learned this the hard way on my first bicycle overnighter. My old 
>> bikes' panniers made it really hard to get to our campsite on the bike. I 
>> think panniers make sense, and they will come back into "trend" soon. 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 6:19:53 PM UTC-8 Neale S. wrote:
>>
>>> One reason to put some weight on the front of the bike is that all of 
>>> your (body) weight is mostly on the rear already.
>>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 5:26:41 PM UTC-8 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 I have basically the same reasoning as Ian, and also live in a city and 
 dont want to leave bags on my bike when I lock up, plus i like my daily 
 bag 
 to not look too bikey (I use the shopsacks). Convenient and easy, easier 
 to 
 pile up with whatever shit i want, take a jacket or sweater off if i get 
 hot, sling my lock into it. Does it affect handling? yep, but i dont 
 really 
 mind that much for riding around town. If my situation was different maybe 
 id do things differently, but I tend to like having a at least a small 
 basket available for an around town bike. I like the way it looks too.

 -stephen

 On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:47:17 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> IMO, baggage ought to complement the handling characteristics of the 
> bicycle. My benchmark idea of handling has been formed by 30 years of 
> riding Rivendells which, IME, do best with rear loads, or at least loads 
> biased toward the rear and not the front.
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 5:18 PM ian m  wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure how it makes more sense to put a bag into another bag 
>> than into a baske
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Will's weekly emails?

[Jacob Kersey]

Hey Chris, here's the web link to last week's email, in which Will mentions 
that lots of folks (including him!) appear to have been unsubscribed for 
reasons unknown, though sounds like they're working on it:
https://mailchi.mp/a4cd9171d526/sams-may-15th-more-roaduno-details?e=f9b06c6a4b

Still subscribed for now I guess,
-Jake in Oakland 

On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 10:30:45 PM UTC-7 cdres...@gmail.com wrote:

I've haven't seen Will's weekly Rivendell news lately. Maybe I missed an 
update.

Chris

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[RBW] FS: Sackville Trunksacks, Olive & Khaki

[Jacob Kersey]

Hello RBW bunchers,

Found a pair of forgotten small Rivendell/Sackville Trunksacks in the back 
of my closet, can't see myself using these much in the future after 
switching up my rack setup, so hoping they'll find a new home where they'll 
get a bit more action than they saw under my watch.

How about $60 shipped for each bag (CONUSA via Pirateship), or $110 shipped 
if you want the pair? They're in excellent barely-used condition, see 
photos here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qyKDSDDpbh6hRgUS7

PayPal F&F preferred, please message me directly with any questions or 
interest.

Thanks folks

-Jacob in Oakland 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Sackville Trunksacks, Olive & Khaki

[Jacob Kersey]

Both sacks spoken for, thanks everyone.
-Jacob

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 11:41:46 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

PM sent at 12:40 pm MDST ...

Patrick "Oh, me! Me! Me!" Moore

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:32 PM Jacob Kersey wrote:

Hello RBW bunchers,

Found a pair of forgotten small Rivendell/Sackville Trunksacks in the back 
of my closet, can't see myself using these much in the future after 
switching up my rack setup, so hoping they'll find a new home where they'll 
get a bit more action than they saw under my watch.

How about $60 shipped for each bag (CONUSA via Pirateship), or $110 shipped 
if you want the pair? They're in excellent barely-used condition, see 
photos here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qyKDSDDpbh6hRgUS7

PayPal F&F preferred, please message me directly with any questions or 
interest.

Thanks folks

-Jacob in Oakland 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1988-89 Matching "His & Hers" Stumpjumpers w/ Platypus Complete Build

[Jacob Kersey]

Hi Armand, lovely bikes, thanks for sharing. Plenty of care and attention 
to detail evident in those builds and the photos you linked.

Curious if you (or any of the vintage MTB oldheads on the list) have any idea 
why the larger model has a chainstay mounted U-brake vs the rear canti 
posts on the smaller bike? Was this a factory-specced difference between 
sizes? Random variation? Custom post fab job? Almost picked one of these up 
locally a few weeks back, but my U-brake bias got in the way.

best of luck with the sale,
-Jake "u-brake-it-u-don't-buy-it" in Oakland, CA
On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 12:54:22 PM UTC-7 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:

> What? Vintage 1980's Specialized Stumpjumpers? On the RBW Owner's bunch? 
> If having the entirety of parts from my Platypus complete put on one of 
> these bikes is not considered blasphemy, well then I'm in luck. :) 
>
> A very special pair of bikes I have meticulously restored with lots of 
> custom details, like a *only-one-in-the-world* Merz Magenta/Dinucci Green 
> Mt. Zefal frame pump and custom "vintage mtb nerd" bar end plugs. The 
> larger of the two is setup as a period correct MTB, with the smaller setup 
> as a Rivendell! 
>
> RBW Owner's bunch pricing is $2500 OBO for *both* bikes. I am open to 
> selling individually and/or shipping at buyer's expense. Local pick-up in 
> Santa Monica. View my feeBay listing here 
>  for more photos and full details! 
>
> [image: IMG_3184.JPG]
>
> Happy Riding, 
> Armand
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1988-89 Matching "His & Hers" Stumpjumpers w/ Platypus Complete Build

[Jacob Kersey]

Thanks for the insight Armand & Reginald!

I'm realizing based on the responses that my query (and poor attempt at 
whimsy) read like an indictment of U-brakes, which wasn't my intention. I 
was mostly curious about the different brake placement on two seemingly 
identical frames, which Armand helpfully clarified was due to the frames 
being from two different model years (as the subject line suggested, if 
only I'd been able to make the simple inference...)

For context, I still own an old u-braked Ritchey Outback, and rode an '87 
MB2 with suntour rollercams for years. In my experience both provide 
stopping power aplenty and aren't any fussier to set up than most cantis. 
Chainstay placement isn't optimal for riding conditions involving any sort 
of mud/debris, but for the vast majority of trails and city riding, 
u-brakes work great (and make rear rack installation much simpler!).

Reginald, do you happen to have any photos of the roller cam setup on your 
MB-1? And apologies to Armand for all this thread drift on your FS post! 

-Jake
On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 10:30:37 PM UTC-7 R. Alexis wrote:

> Armand,
>
> You are right on point with the U-Brake. GT continued to use them into the 
> early 90's on their bikes. Another good alternative is a SunTour Rollercam 
> brake. I have one of those in use on the rear of my 1994 Bridgestone MB-1 
> retro build using an Odyssey U4 adapter brake plate/stiffener. Had this in 
> use on my Brigestone MB-0(Zip) when initially built up from a frameset. I 
> have a Gorilla brake booster plate mounted to the brakes to stiffen it up. 
>
> Jake,
>
> I wouldn't be too put off by a U-Brake. They set up and function fine once 
> you get educated on them. I have a 1988ish Cannondale that has one on the 
> seatstay and it functions just fine. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 3:53:24 PM UTC-5 Jacob Kersey wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Armand, lovely bikes, thanks for sharing. Plenty of care and attention 
>> to detail evident in those builds and the photos you linked.
>>
>> Curious if you (or any of the vintage MTB oldheads on the list) have any 
>> idea 
>> why the larger model has a chainstay mounted U-brake vs the rear canti 
>> posts on the smaller bike? Was this a factory-specced difference between 
>> sizes? Random variation? Custom post fab job? Almost picked one of these up 
>> locally a few weeks back, but my U-brake bias got in the way.
>>
>> best of luck with the sale,
>> -Jake "u-brake-it-u-don't-buy-it" in Oakland, CA
>> On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 12:54:22 PM UTC-7 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> What? Vintage 1980's Specialized Stumpjumpers? On the RBW Owner's bunch? 
>>> If having the entirety of parts from my Platypus complete put on one of 
>>> these bikes is not considered blasphemy, well then I'm in luck. :) 
>>>
>>> A very special pair of bikes I have meticulously restored with lots of 
>>> custom details, like a *only-one-in-the-world* Merz Magenta/Dinucci 
>>> Green Mt. Zefal frame pump and custom "vintage mtb nerd" bar end plugs. The 
>>> larger of the two is setup as a period correct MTB, with the smaller setup 
>>> as a Rivendell! 
>>>
>>> RBW Owner's bunch pricing is $2500 OBO for *both* bikes. I am open to 
>>> selling individually and/or shipping at buyer's expense. Local pick-up in 
>>> Santa Monica. View my feeBay listing here 
>>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/176478395383> for more photos and full 
>>> details! 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_3184.JPG]
>>>
>>> Happy Riding, 
>>> Armand
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Slipping on swept back handlebars

[Jacob Kersey]

After tightening a single bolt Ritchey stem to the point where it 
compressed/deformed a pair of chromo Bosco bars, I started using carbon 
friction paste/gel to prevent slippage in these situations. No issues since.
-Jake in Oakland 

On Wednesday, September 11, 2024 at 4:20:56 AM UTC-7 Dan wrote:

> To add: I ride single track semi regularly and no issues since tightening. 
>
> On Wednesday 11 September 2024 at 20:49:55 UTC+9:30 Dan wrote:
>
>>
>> Swept back bars with a 26.0 clamp diameter? Must be the Crust Ron’s Ortho 
>> Bars!
>>
>> I had slipping issues with mine initially until I just really tightened 
>> down on the stem. I’m running an old Velo Orange Crand Cru steel stem. 
>> Looks great, but I could indeed go with more reach if I could ever find a 
>> stem that had it. 
>> On Wednesday 11 September 2024 at 04:15:45 UTC+9:30 ethan...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just put some swept back handlebars on my bicycle and I am having 
>>> trouble with slipping. The handlebars sweep back 7 inches or so with a 26mm 
>>> clamp diameter. My stem is a nitto tallux and I'm switching in an old 130mm 
>>> Ritchey stem for more reach, but I'm still worried about the bar slipping. 
>>> Is there a good solution for gripping big bars that increase torque at the 
>>> stem clamp, especially when riding on gravel/off-road? 
>>>
>>> I might be able to tighten it more, but I'm worried that going tighter 
>>> will strip or deform the bolt. Do folks ever use thread-locker or some 
>>> adhesive for extra stick? Or do I need a 2-4 bolt faceplate stem for the 
>>> extra gripping strength?
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any tips/tricks/ideas! Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ethan
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Jacob Kersey]

Quickbeam
60cm
San Francisco, CA 
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-quickbeam-60cm/7456650134.html

On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:36:37 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:

> A. Homer Hilsen
> 59cm
> $3000
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-bicycle-works/7455804710.html

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[RBW] FS: Bags (Sackville Saddlesack, Shopsack, Trunksack + Acorn Saddlebag) + Paul Levers

[Jacob Kersey]

Hoping to find new homes where the following items will be appreciated, 
because they are most certainly not appreciated by certain members of our 
household who keep tripping over them (it has been suggested that "this bag 
nonsense is getting out of hand")...

All prices include shipping to CONUS, paypal F&F preferred, please see 
photos for detailed condition of each item, please send me a private/direct 
message if you're interested. If any of my pricing is way off feel free to 
let me know.

Photos Here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/gAyQmCekepobQfB96

1) Sackville Medium Saddlesack, Medium, Grid Gray, older model/fabric 
(darker gray + more pronounced grid), includes kangaroo pouch, excellent 
condition w/mild wear on the leather underside guard: *$170 shipped*

2) Sackville Trunksack, Small, Grid Gray, older model/fabric, excellent 
condition: *$80 shipped*

3) Sackville Shopsack, Medium, Grid Gray (newer stiffer fabric, lighter 
grid), Olive internal zippered pouch, very good condition, shows some 
normal dirt and wear, but should clean up like new: *$75 shipped*

4) Acorn Saddlebag, Large (most comparable to their current large model at 
least), tan/khaki, turn-buttons on side pockets, leather closures and 
drawstring main compartments, multiple dowels for structure, excellent 
condition*: $100 shipped *

5) Paul Love Brake Levers, Short pull (for Cantilevers/Sidepulls), Black, 
like new (never mounted), note there is no return spring/mechanism in this 
model: *$110 shipped*

Cross-posting to the ibob list as well for those who dabble in both worlds.

*Warmest *regards, 
-Jake, currently overheating in Oakland,

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[RBW] Re: FS: UPDATE Bags (Sackville Saddlesack, Shopsack, Trunksack + Acorn Saddlebag) + Paul Levers

[Jacob Kersey]

Hey folks, looks like this FS post got held up for several days prior to 
reaching the list (we went from oppressive 100+ degree temperatures down to 
a breezy 60-something fall days here in the Bay Area in the meantime), just 
sharing that all items are now sold with the exception of the *small Grid 
Gray Trunksack*, which I'd be happy to move along for* $75 shipped* at this 
point. Apologies for any confusion.

Please message me directly with any interest.

Less baggage this week than last,
-Jake in Oakland
On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 1:37:50 PM UTC-7 Jacob Kersey wrote:

> Hoping to find new homes where the following items will be appreciated, 
> because they are most certainly not appreciated by certain members of our 
> household who keep tripping over them (it has been suggested that "this bag 
> nonsense is getting out of hand")...
>
> All prices include shipping to CONUS, paypal F&F preferred, please see 
> photos for detailed condition of each item, please send me a private/direct 
> message if you're interested. If any of my pricing is way off feel free to 
> let me know.
>
> Photos Here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/gAyQmCekepobQfB96
>
> 1) Sackville Medium Saddlesack, Medium, Grid Gray, older model/fabric 
> (darker gray + more pronounced grid), includes kangaroo pouch, excellent 
> condition w/mild wear on the leather underside guard: *$170 shipped*
>
> 2) Sackville Trunksack, Small, Grid Gray, older model/fabric, excellent 
> condition: *$80 shipped*
>
> 3) Sackville Shopsack, Medium, Grid Gray (newer stiffer fabric, lighter 
> grid), Olive internal zippered pouch, very good condition, shows some 
> normal dirt and wear, but should clean up like new: *$75 shipped*
>
> 4) Acorn Saddlebag, Large (most comparable to their current large model at 
> least), tan/khaki, turn-buttons on side pockets, leather closures and 
> drawstring main compartments, multiple dowels for structure, excellent 
> condition*: $100 shipped *
>
> 5) Paul Love Brake Levers, Short pull (for Cantilevers/Sidepulls), Black, 
> like new (never mounted), note there is no return spring/mechanism in this 
> model: *$110 shipped*
>
> Cross-posting to the ibob list as well for those who dabble in both worlds.
>
> *Warmest *regards, 
> -Jake, currently overheating in Oakland,
>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Jacob Kersey]

Hiya Joe/all,
This was my Charlie. And still is, as I got cold feet and decided to hold 
onto it. Didn't formally post to the list as I really didn't wanna juggle 
shipping offers. Only got a handful of miles in the saddle before tearing 
it down  for a still stalled out rebuild, but can confirm it rides 
wonderfully 

Was gonna chime in to say Jason knows what lies beneath those stickers 
better than me (I dug the look  so I haven't  fussed with em), but good to 
hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

-Jake in Oakland 

On Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 5:47:32 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Looks like the post is gone now, that was my old silver 54 swoop tube 
> Gallop right?  I was the one who stickered it up for commuting but it was 
> mint underneath. I don't think the fella who bought it from me rode it much 
> (at all?).  Kinda miss that bike, it was a perfect commuter, but just too 
> overlappy with my Hillborne. 
>
> On Saturday, 30 November 2024 at 07:57:16 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> "Gallop" 
>>
>> Cool frame but I'd like to know what's under those huge stickers. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2024 at 10:40:45 PM UTC-8 Edward S wrote:
>>
>>> Not my post - Rivendell Charlie Gallop Prototype Frame, Bay Area - $1100
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-charlie-gallop/7803352067.html
>>>
>>> I just purchased a size 57 Gallop frame from Riv in RBW Blue, but this 
>>> prototype frame looks really beautiful - especially with that stem. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 11:12:31 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Thomas,

 You are not alone. 

 In my case I wish I could have been able to afford that Rivendell 52cm 
 blue Clem complete bicycle out of southern California as a spare bicycle 
 to 
 my own. 

 Alas, I took a deep breath and moved on.

 Kim Hetzel. 

 On Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 7:07 AM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners 
 Bunch  wrote:

> Oh, man! Will the temptations never cease! I'm not even going to 
> look... it's probably purple and includes an 8cm Nitto 280-DX stem, so 
> far 
> only rumored to exist.
>
> But I remain steadfast: 2025 or 6 no 4
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
> who lives in the chicago area
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-6 benjamin...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Rosco Platypus - one owner
>> 60cm
>> $1600
>> Chicago, IL
>>
>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/d/chicago-rivendell-rosco-platypus/7721528541.html
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 9:30:54 AM UTC-6 Matthew Williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sam Hillborne DTT, one owner!
>>> 60cm
>>> 2450
>>> San Francisco, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7721166128.html
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Riv + Nitto Bullmoose Bar (Threaded Version)

[Jacob Kersey]

Hi Coby, looks like someone is selling one r in Oakland on FB Marketplace. 
No connection to seller, no idea if they'll ship, caveat emptor de malus 
bezoar, etc.etc.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/985375000319304/?mibextid=wwXIfr

If that doesn't work out and you're local, I have a pair I'd be willing to 
part with for whatever riv is charging for them these days, been saving 
them for a build that keeps getting delayed, so will need to find a 
replacement down the road).
Best of luck with your search,
-Jake, also in Oakland, CA 
On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 12:43:44 PM UTC-7 theco...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello all! 
>
> I’m in search of the Rivendell threaded bullmoose bars, either fillet 
> brazed or tig welded. I’m always late to find a good listing for them 
> before they sell, and Riv informed me they might not be available directly 
> in shop until Fall 2025.
>
> If anyone has one for sale or has a lead on some, I’d love to know. 
>
> I appreciate this group! I found it recently, and it seems to be a great 
> resource and community. Thanks!
>
> Cheers,
> Coby
>

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