[RBW] Exchange: Drop bars for albastache

[Friend]

Would anyone be interested in exchanging Nitto drop bars for Nitto 
Albastache.  I send the Albastache and receive the drops.  I could either 
sent my whole cockpit (nitto stem, silver shifters, basic brake levers) for 
your cockpit (depending) or just swap bars for bars.  I'm in VA.  Lemme 
know.

James

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[RBW] Shifter cable exit

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I am about to finish my new drop-bar cockpit with bar-end shifters.  Almost 
every drop bar I see has the cables for the bar-end shifters departing from 
the bars a few inches away from the shifters on the bottom part of the bar. 
 I brought the housing all the way up to the middle of the bars where both 
the brake and shifter cables exit together and go to their respective 
places.  Before I wrapp and shellack, I want to make sure that I'm not 
missing some obvious inconvenience that this may cause down the road.  Do 
ya'll have preferences on this matter?

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[RBW] Re: Shifter cable exit

[Friend]

Good point.  Also, as I'm discovering with frustration, shifter cables 
don't come long enough to reach the rear derailleur on 63cm frames.

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 3:37:01 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The only potential (not likely) problem is all those bends will cause 
> enough friction to screw up the shifting. This is a bigger concern with 
> indexed, but will probably be fine either way. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: customized '87 62cm FW Evans Frameset + Extras

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I know you've decided to keep it but I'm curious where you are located.
On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 4:20:36 PM UTC-4 Max S wrote:

> Such a nice looking bike! If I wasn't flush, I'd def. would've gone for it 
> – the size is about right for me... 
>
> - Max "my flexibility varies with season" in A2
>
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 1:29:12 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> After rebuilding the bike (new frame is stuck in customs) for a ride this 
>> weekend, I've decided to keep it for now. Cheers! 
>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 7:48:11 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> actually, 57.5-58 TT. C-C. for both TT & ST. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 7:45:39 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 Sorry, corrections on the frame measurements: 
 63cm ST 
 57cm TT 
 21.5cm Headtube 
 Hub spacing: 100f, 130r 
 On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 2:29:56 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I'm going from having one multi-tool bike to two purpose-specific 
> bikes so I've decided to pass this one on. 
> It's an '87ish FW Evans, Reynolds 531 frame + fork, measuring 62cm ST, 
> 58cm TT. It takes a 27.0 seatpost. It's been stripped and powdercoated 
> RAL 
> 8023. I created new downtube graphics and a matching brass headbadge. 
> Paint 
> is in decent shape, some chipping here and there from getting rowdy. 
>
> Frame modifications from Amigo Frameworks: 
>
>- added pump peg to the seat stay
>- thread the hole on the bottom bracket shell for the cable guide 
>(the old one was riveted) 
>- Chase bottom bracket threads 
>- add a third waterbottle cage brazeon on the downtube for an 
>anything cage or just to raise the bottle a bit.   
>- add chainstay / seatstay*** bridge brazeons for easier fender 
>install 
>- add a front derailleur brazeon (lowered all the way fits well 
>with a 46t big ring so you probably have a range from 44-50t if you 
> wanted 
>a 2x or 3x setup.
>
>
>
>- *** I drilled through the seatstay brazeon and did some filing 
>to raise the fender line high enough to fit a 32mm tire comfortably so 
>there's some raw steel under the fender. 
>
> Frameset includes everything you see in the pictures: 
>
>- A painted to match VO 31.8 80mm stem. Note that I cut the stem 
>down and replaced the expander bolt with a titanium one. The top cap 
> is the 
>green one SimWorks makes. This is as high as the stem can go! Sorry 
> not 
>sorry. 
>- VO alloy 45mm fenders cut and filed to fit this frame. 
>- Waxwing Bag Co mudflaps 
>- Nitto M12 front rack 
>- Dia-Compe 980 brakes w/ koolstop pads with plenty of life 
>- VO 118mm bottom bracket (english threaded) 
>- Paul gold moon units 
>- Stronglight 1" threaded headset  
>- everything else that's in the pictures but I forgot to mention
>
> Frame ride review: 
> A very comfortable, planted bike. Descending is easy and predictable. 
> Handles smallish loads very well. Without a load, the bike is sprightly 
> with easy steering. The bike can fit 35mm tires but it performs best with 
> 32mm tires and lower..less pneumatic trail. Note that with 32mm tires and 
> fenders, you have to deflate the tire to remove the wheel. Overall, this 
> bike feels pretty similar to the Roadini but maybe less fork dampening. 
> Just a great, do everything kinda bike. I've done many 80 mile rides on 
> it 
> coming home feeling A-Okay and ready for more. 
>
> Here  are the photos
>
> I'm asking $820 including shipping (CONUS)...it might take me a little 
> while to find a box but I'll get it out ASAP. I'm having a frame 
> (hopefully) delivered this week so I'm hoping to reuse that box. It'll 
> also 
> come more disassembled than what's pictured.
>
> Cheers! 
> Andrew
>
>

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[RBW] Pass and Stow recommendation

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I am feeling ready to spend on a nice front rack for my Appaloosa.  I was 
going to get the Pass and Stow and and am wondering if anyone has 
experience with either the 3 rail or the 5 rail option.  I was leaning 
towards the 5 rail option because it would better support a basket.  I'm 
wondering if anyone found unexpected tradeoffs when they bought one or the 
other and just trying to get some peace of mind before spending $280

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[RBW] Re: FS: XXL Wooly Warm Sweater

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How tall are you and how's the fit?

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 8:45:33 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Tried on, never worn. Really wanted the vest which I just ordered. $80 OBO 
> shipped MUSA.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL.
>
> [image: sweater.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Long distance tour

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If ya'll were to pack up your bike, travel with it to Italy, and do a bike 
tour trip there, would you take a double-top-tube Appaloosa or a Homer 
Hilsen.  It would mostly be paved roads, some gravel, and packed for full 
camping (stove, tent, sleeping bag, etc...)  Why??

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Re: [RBW] FS: 63cm Roadeo (at Westminster, MD Bike Swap 2/13)

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PMed you!

On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 3:38:24 PM UTC-5 Scott Calhoun wrote:

> PM sent too just in case. I posted a WTB for a 63cm Roadeo on this list 
> ages ago.
>
> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 12:20:44 AM UTC-7 exliontamer wrote:
>
>> Sent you a message. I've been looking for a 63cm! 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 11:35:12 PM UTC-6 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Dang, if only it was 10cm smaller...
>>>
>>> Collin, forever short, in Sacramento
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 5:53:29 PM UTC-8 Austin B. wrote:
>>>
 @Patrick,

 It's the curse of the gangly-large frames--there just aren't that many 
 riders out there that can fit a 63cm frame. Basic supply & demand, right? 
 It does have one key blemish--the pointy lug that points up the seatpost 
 was bent in transport (boxed so they removed the seatpost). it couldn't be 
 bent back and accept a seatpost, so cut, filed, and touch-up paint. Never 
 bothered me.

 Ok, the buildI had some different parts on it for the last couple 
 years, but am making it more Rivish for sale using many of the parts that 
 came on it when I acquired it.


- Velocity A23 with 28mm Gatorskins
- VO Grand Cru Brakes (SO much better than Tektros)
- 105 FD, RD and Crankset
- 9-Speed cassette (11-30)
- Shimano barends
- Nitto Dynamic Seatpost with a Brooks B17
- 44cm Noodle Handlebars, IRD levers, 9cm Nitto Tallux stem
- VO Platform Pedals

 I think that's it. 

 And yes, they are expensive. I'll pour myself a nice, expensive glass 
 of scotch the day they get off my auto insurance policy.

 Austin

 On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 8:28:08 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Sheesh: Entire bike $1K below frame list; what's the catch? (Not a 
> complaint, I'm saying it's so wonderful it's hard to believe!) If it were 
> a 
> 58 it would be hard for me to restrain myself.
>
> Please describe the build, tires included.
>
> And congrats on the HS grad. Be warned: They are expensive in high 
> school, they are much more expensive in college.
>
> Patrick "only 1 child, but she's expensive!" Moore
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 6:18 PM Austin B.  wrote:
>
>> Everyone,
>>
>> Doing some downsizing as my youngest is graduating HS in a couple 
>> months. I'll be taking my 63cm Roadeo to the Stop, Swap, and Save 
>>  event in Westminster, MD this 
>> Sunday 2/13. $1800 asking price. If it doesn't sell there I will be 
>> posting 
>> it here afterwards. Pic below.
>>
>> Also might take my 63cm Bridgestone RB-1 (1989) to the swap meet if i 
>> can convince myself to let go of it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Austin B. 
>> Sykesville, MD
>>
>> [image: IMG_9862.JPG]
>>
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[RBW] Re: How Many Bars on the Appaloosa?

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I used to ride with the Albatross but the bends in the bars were 
uncomfortable when I wanted to put my hands in a more forwards position.  I 
switched to Bosco bars and love them but I am ridiculously upright.  I can 
lean forwards and rest my elbows on by bar grips, with my hands in the 
center of the bar.  I can hardly stand and pedal though, as my hands will 
basically be at my hips.  I'l like to switch and am considering the 
choco-moose based off this thread.
On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 12:15:49 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Yeah I'm a handlebar fiend. The first bar I became obsessed with was the 
> Albatross with bar-end shifters. Truly a perfect cockpit. The second 
> handlebar obsession was the Nitto B135 in the 45cm flavor... but then I 
> discovered my preference for shorter reach, which led me to my third and 
> maybe-latest favorite: Ritchey's Butano handlebar. Another perfect one: 
> it's ridiculously comfortable with just a single layer of Green Grips 
> cotton bar tape. HOWEVER. I'm waiting on a new pair of Albatross bars to 
> come in the mail from Riv, so I'm going back to the beginning to see how 
> that feels. 
>
> Going from drops to alt-bars is the biggest swap for me because it usually 
> means I've completely changed the intention of the build from an 
> endurance-focused bike (drops) to a fun, smell the roses, 
> better-all-terrain bike (alt-bars). It's on like a 1.5-2 year rotation it 
> seems. I romanticize spending all day on the saddle, try it, get 
> progressively more bored for the next year and a half, then revert and/or 
> graduate to Albatross bars until I get sick of the headwind on a paved ride 
> in another year and a half!   
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 8:04:27 AM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Yep!
>>
>>
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/135532314029/the-joe-appaloosa-saga-its-a-new-bike
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 12:31:54 AM UTC-5 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> Were the choco moose bars original equipment on the first round of 
>>> Appaloosas?  
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:10:33 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote:
>>>
 [image: 186E1CD7-3716-4BE9-A68B-A3B5D6CD2FD2.jpeg]+1 choco moose

  

 On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:18:11 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> Same here for the choco moose bars on this bike. I switched to 
> albatross to lighten the build, but went back to the perfect  bars for 
> this 
> bike—choco moose. 
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:58:54 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>
>> I did the same thing to my Appaloosas: boscomoose, bullmoose, 
>> chocomoose, choco, albatross, billie. All of them worked great on this 
>> bike. At the end of the day I always come back to the chocomoose though. 
>> There is something magical about those bars, at least for me. Great hand 
>> positions. I love how they are inverted. And yes, they are tougher and 
>> stiffer than other bars 'n stems. They work great with bar end shifters 
>> or 
>> thumbies. One thing I discovered is that although I think the silver 
>> shifters are the best, the clamp is not so great for inboard thumbies. 
>> The 
>> microshift shifters with paul levers have a nice low profile and don't 
>> interrupt your hand positions. With respect to the Newbaums, yes I have 
>> used a shameful amount for bar swaps over the years. At some point I 
>> just 
>> started slipping oury grips on the end and leaving the forward grip 
>> areas 
>> permanently taped. Bike looks great!
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 2:57:14 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> I just used my standard Nitto drop bar on my Appaloosa, with a 
>>> shorter stem than on my other bikes because it has a longer top tube. 
>>> Brake 
>>> levers in their normal location, wrapped the bars, haven't changed 
>>> anything 
>>> since:
>>> [image: PXL_20201213_024100183.jpg]
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Parts, Racks, Bags, etc.

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I take it the frame isn't for sale?  Got an info link to the Jandd, or some 
other photos possibly?

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 3:07:33 PM UTC-5 ant ritchey wrote:

> PMed for the Tektro's
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 2:01:04 PM UTC-8 Drw wrote:
>
>> Hi All, 
>> selling off a few things. Prices do not include shipping. Happy to do 
>> discounts on multiple item purchases.  photos HERE 
>> 
>> .  
>>
>> *Tubus Cargo rack*- this is the powdercoated version, not stainless. 
>> Good shape, but some light scuffs. It only ever had a saddlebag that rested 
>> on it. *50$*
>>
>> *Microshift FD*- this worked on a triple. comes with 31.8 clamp, but 
>> it's a braze on derailleur, so you can swap it for 28.6. * 20$*
>>
>> *Tektro cr720 cantilever brake set-* one bike's worth. a little dirty, 
>> but ill clean them up a bit. 30$ 
>>
>> *Dia Compe SS6 *short pull levers. some shellac residue- *18$*
>>
>> *Nitto Tallux stem*- 100mm extension. 25.4 clamp. Excellent condition. 
>> *55$*
>>
>> *MKS Touring pedals*- *12$*
>>
>> *Rivendell Sackville saddlesack Small*- this is a little different than 
>> the one they currently sell. Olive green. great shape- *95$*
>>
>> *Jandd handlebar bag-* bartender style bag in pink. one scuff on the 
>> bottom. *- 25$*
>>
>> *Gyes Leather saddle*- similar shape to a brooks b69, but unsprung. 
>> Quality is closer to that of the VO leather saddles. excellent condition 
>> *40$*
>>
>> *Crane bell-* free with another purchase.
>>
>> Ive listed the following items before, and i'd like to move them along. 
>> Feel free to make me offers on these. 
>>
>> *Nemo Hornet 1p tent*- this has been my go to tent for the last 2 years 
>> whenever im alone. But camping alone has become pretty rare, so this has 
>> only seen somewhere between 15-20 nights of use. its super light, 
>> freestanding, roomy for 1, easy to setup and solid. It fits in the 
>> outershell bag without the poles. includes tent, fly, poles, stakes and 
>> original bags, and tyvek footprint info here 
>> .
>>
>> *Six moon designs lunar solo*- info here 
>> . This is brand new. 
>> I tested it out one night in my backyard. It has been factory seam sealed 
>> (+35$). it is the current silpoly version which is arguably better. It uses 
>> a trekking pole or a smaller pole you can buy from SMD or other places that 
>> do the single wall tent thing. It can squash down to the size of a large 
>> nalgene.   **this is being sold as it was purchased and does not include 
>> stakes or a pole* *
>>
>> *-Nitto B904 Bullmoose- *threadless, mounted but never ridden.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for looking,
>> Drew, LA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem H - Holy Hell

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I don't really understand what's going on here.  Care to explain?

On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 8:28:26 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> Marty,
> That is a cool setup and on a Clem! The Clems really are do-it-all and set 
> up as you like bikes. Happy riding.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:40:29 PM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, 
> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
>> My Clem H enjoys being a single speed lately thanks to a White ENO hub, 
>> and a holy hanger was simply unforgivable in my book. After confirming that 
>> Problem Solvers discontinued the little filler they once made for such a 
>> task (damn them), I reasoned that the little SS bolt for a Wolf Tooth Road 
>> Link would do the same thing. As luck would have it I had such a beast - 
>> purchased (for no good reason) for a buck at the Gravel & Grind yard sale 
>> before they moved to Vermont. What a godsend! Even luckier that Wolf Tooth 
>> sells the little devil alone should anyone need to perform the same ritual:
>>
>> Devilish Bolt 
>> 
>>
>> So here's my unholy hanger now. in all its glory:
>>
>> [image: PXL_20220228_211059301.MP.jpg] 
>>
>> Lots more holes to fill as you can see.The Clem has an ungodly number of 
>> 'em. 
>>
>> Marty
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Hunqapillar, 62, complete, dynamo—$2600

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Is this still for sale?  What is your PBH?

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 11:39:15 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com 
wrote:

> If I had not just finished building up my first Rivendell, an Appaloosa, I 
> would be all over this. The Hunqapillar is a really cool bike, and may just 
> have the coolest head badge ever. Good luck with the sale!
>
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 6:24:24 PM UTC-6 Applegate wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_8197.jpeg]
>> “A wooly mammoth of a bicycle.”
>>
>> Hello folks. I’ve overdone the bicycles again, and am cutting one out. 
>> It’s a Hunq, and it will be a sad day to see it go. I used this as a 
>> heavy-duty town bike, with mega grocery hauls and big Lake Merritt picnic 
>> duty, but it is made for much more fun than that, like expedition-grade 
>> off-road bike touring.
>>
>> Google Photos 
>>
>> It has a Shimano dynamo front hub (!) but I’m planning to keep the lights 
>> so as to keep the price down a bit, and since not everybody has the same 
>> taste in those anyway.
>>
>> —Rivendell Silver Crankset, 42x28 w/pretty guard
>> —Soma Shikoro 48mm tires
>> —2x10 Deore Xt drivetrain
>> —Shimano dynamo FH, Velocity RH, on Atlas rims (Rich Lesnik built front)
>> —Nitto Tallux stem
>> —Nitto Billie bars
>> —Paul Cantis, Touring + Neo-Retro (set up opposite front/back config as 
>> "typical" just cuz; please do not email me JUST to say these are backwards.)
>> —Shimano Dura-Ace bar-end shifters set up as thumbies
>> —Dia-compe brake levers
>> —Riv fancy cork grips
>>
>> Add $50 for the Brooks (I can give you brown or black)
>> Add $60 for the Nitto seatpost (I'll include a Kalloy S65 copy in its 
>> place)
>> Add $50 for the MKS/Riv Monarch/Grip King pedals (I'll include standard 
>> platform pedals)
>>
>>
>> I'm 6'0" with longer-than-the-statistical-average legs for my height. 
>> Saddle height there is about 79cm.
>>
>>
>> I'm in Berkeley, and would like to prioritize local pickup, but shipping 
>> via Bikeflights + $95 for Blue Heron (LBS) to professionally pack it is 
>> also an option. I don't currently have a bike box in which to pack it up 
>> myself.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your consideration,
>> Alex Applegate
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Per Riv/Cyclofiend (thanks Jim) 
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/pdf/original_hunaqbook_pdf.pdf:
>>
>> The benefit of the expanded frame is higher handlebars easier, and so, 
>> more comfort. That’s important and desirable on any bike, and super 
>> important on one for touring.
>>
>> The Hunqapillar frame is an interesting mix of materials and people 
>> behind it. It's our design, everything down to the last micro-detail. It’s 
>> made in Taiwan by a team of builders trained by Tetsu Ishigaki, of Toyo. 
>> The main tubes are super- expensive Japanese Kaisei 8630 heat-treated. The 
>> seat- and chainstays are perfectly good Taiwan CrMo. The fork is made in 
>> Japan by Tetsu Ishigaki at Toyo.
>>
>> Rear Spacing is 135mm—normal for touring and mountain bikes, and that 
>> gives you access to about a million rear hubs.
>>
>> The 58 and 62, have extra top tubes, for extra strength. The 48 and 54 
>> don’t need them, because their head tubes are shorter, so the frames are 
>> already well-triangulated.
>>
>> All sizes have clearance for 2.2-inch tires, which is big enough for 
>> anything except downhill racing.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Clem L complete

[Friend]

Got any more pictures?

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:03:53 PM UTC-4 zac.te...@gmail.com wrote:

> pm sent
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 4:07:11 PM UTC-7 Marc R wrote:
>
>> Purchased new (2016) from RBW, ridden around town only.
>> I bought a larger size so am selling this one.
>>
>> Standard Riv build, mustard color, with:
>> Rene Hearse Switchback Hill tires
>> SKS fenders
>> Wald Clem Bosco Basket
>> $1600
>>
>> prefer local (NorCal) sale
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marc
>> Davis, CA
>>
>> [image: IMG_0253.jpeg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Bags: Sackville TrunkSack & Makeshifter Outback Saddlebag

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How big is the Makeshifter bag?  Do you happen to have a product-page link?

On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 9:55:26 AM UTC-4 Huston wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Both of these bags are technically used but remain in like new condition:
>
> 1. Rivendell Sackville TrunkSack - Small, olive.  I bought this bag from a 
> fellow list-member with the intention to change a Wald/bag setup for the 
> smaller TrunkSack, but I've decided to stick with the basket bag.  $80 
> (shipping included to lower 48).
>
> 2. Makeshifter Outback Saddlebag.  It's hard to let this go, but this bag 
> has simply not been used enough.  It's beautiful.  Includes Voile straps 
> and carrying strap.  I think the Outbacks have been retired.  Tan canvas 
> with olive webbing and pink interior.  You won't lose anything in this 
> bag.  $255 (shipping included to lower 48).
>
> Pics are available here 
> .
>   
> Please send a PM if interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Huston
> Lexington, KY
>

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Re: [RBW] Brooks B67 on a Clem or other upright bike

[Friend]

Only complaint I have with my B67 on a very upright Joe App is that is 
squeaks.  I imagine some oil would fix that though.

On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:28:36 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I've used a couple of B 67s and B 68s and they are very definitely made 
> for the old-fashioned sit-up-and-beg riding position; bend forward much and 
> you'll wish for something narrower. But for sitting bolt upright they were 
> fine, tho' I'm just as happy upright on a b 17-width saddle, which I find 
> too wide for drop bars 1" lower than saddle (the original Flite is perfect 
> for that, for me).
>
> But saddles are so personal that others' choices may well be very 
> different from what is comfortable for you.
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 10:19 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> This may or may not be a question aimed specifically at Clem owners. 
>> Rivendell suggest the B67 for very upright positions. But, most Riv bikes 
>> (Clem or other) I see have either B17, Flyer or other brand leather saddles 
>> (Rivet, RH, SAA...). Even when I take a look at the Riv "staff bikes" I 
>> rarely see a B67, though most of the bikes look pretty upright.
>> FWIW, I tried a secondhand B67 on my Jones bike when I was struggling to 
>> get comfortable on it after converting it from my mountain bike to my 
>> everything else bike. In that effort I swapped the Jones loop bar for a 
>> more swept back bar (Soma Oxford) and jacked the bars up using a VO Cigne 
>> stem. I was pretty comfortable but just could not get the B67 in a place 
>> where I was not sliding forward so I (foolishly?) sold it. But the 
>> experiment led me to my interest in and eventual purchase of my Clem (Lucky 
>> day!). To date I have only ridden the Clem with my trusty SQ Labs saddle 
>> and it has been great for most of the nearly 600 miles I have put on the 
>> bike. Most of those rides have been between 1 - 2.5 hours in length. The 
>> other day I went almost three hours and my sit bones were getting 
>> uncomfortable. My thinking is that the SQ is just too narrow for the very 
>> upright position. The B67 seems the natural choice. Thus my question - why 
>> do I not see more B67's on Riv bikes and on Clem's in particular?
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS - 60 Orange Quickbeam

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I'm looking for a Quickbeam but think I'm more of a 62cm.  Whats your PBH 
and how does this fit?  Do you know the saddle height of the pictures?

On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 4:45:17 PM UTC-4 Sean Steinle wrote:

> Orange was factory, they ran between the green and silver. 
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/quickbeam/index.html
>
> I'm quite confident now that this is a 60, and the TT measures at 58 C-C 
> on the 60cm. I know it's factory paint because I can still see/feel the 
> decal lines. I think someone 'de-Rived' it for anti-theft reasons, perhaps?
>
> On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 3:28:33 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Nice price for a nice frame. Did you or a previous owner have it painted 
>> orange? Well, I guess, since IIRC, orange was not OEM, right?
>>
>> What is the top tube length on a 58/60 frame?
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who has owned exactly 3 Rivendell fixed gears (plus many 
>> others).
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 12:10 PM Sean Steinle  wrote:
>>
>>> Reposting with the correct size in the title, I've since discovered Riv 
>>> uses (used?) C-T for their frame sizes. 
>>>
>>> I've decided to go a different direction mid-build. This one is well 
>>> used, but no dents or dings. Took pics of a couple spots of missing paint, 
>>> but the paint has wear all over the bike. I can take more pics if needed. I 
>>> have a brand new set of QB decals and headbadge, so this is a perfect 
>>> candidate for a new paint job!
>>>
>>> Measures 58cm from the center of the crank bolt to the center of the top 
>>> tube, 60cm C-T.
>>>
>>> I'm offering this in a choose your own flavor fashion. As pictured it's 
>>> a total hodge podge. The crank is a VO Grand Cru double that has the inner 
>>> ring taken off. The front wheel is a vintage Trek take-off, 36h, nothing 
>>> special wheel.
>>>
>>> The rear is the star of the show. 32h Phil flip flop hub, 16-18 WI dos 
>>> eno one side and  Surly 17-20 Dingle on the other. Currently laced to a 
>>> Mavic Open Pro, but has hairline cracks on a few of the nipples. 
>>>
>>> I'm keeping the pedals, saddle, and seatpost. Cockpit is currently Nitto 
>>> Deluxe w/ Noodles. I've got other parts in my parts bin.
>>>  
>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/BB price - $800 + shipping from Lawrence, KS. 
>>>
>>> If you want parts, we'll put together a package and work on a price. 
>>>
>>> Pictures 
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: FS- Wavie bar. Brand new, still in wrapper. 660 X 25.4

[Friend]

Has it surely been sold?

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:57:23 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> PM Sent.  I'll pick it up
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:45:47 AM UTC-7 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Bump.  $85 shipped or make me an offer (SF Bay Area pick up would be nice)
>>
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:33:23 PM UTC-8 Alex K wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure how much it'll be to ship due to the width, but the bar is $100 
>>> plus whatever the cheapest shipping option is or just $100 if you can pick 
>>> up in San Francisco.  I guess this is available on the website, but maybe 
>>> someday it won't be and this post will be more useful.  Or maybe somebody 
>>> wants to save $26?  
>>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Choco or Choco-Moose Bars,

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Also interested in albastache

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[RBW] WTB: Saddle bad attachment system

[Friend]

I just got a saddle with no saddle loops.  Anyone have one of those gizmos 
that attaches to the saddle rails they'd be willing to sell me?

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS

[Friend]

I'm 6'2" with a 92cm PBH and I ride a 62cm Appaloosa with 45mm tires.  With 
my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch the 
ground.  Stand over is right at my groin bone.  I would ride it any smaller 
or any larger.

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 boblo...@gmail.com wrote:

> David,
>
> Here is a chart from the Riv site:  
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh
>
> Bob
> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote:
>
>> Good morning, Bones,
>>
>> Just sent a PM.
>>
>>
>> Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? I've 
>> hunted around online and can't turn anything up.
>>
>> Thanks all!
>>
>> David
>> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>
 $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of 
 Philadelphia)

 Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard 
 time finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply do 
 not need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each 
 type 
 of riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than some 
 mild depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I used 
 to 
 use. There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the drive 
 side chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and there. 
 The attached pictures should show it all.

 Please PM me with any questions. Thanks!
 Bones

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Appaloosa F/F/HS

[Friend]

Ah, good point.  The standover, at 92cm PBH, is just short of the groin 
bone.  That's the important piece.
On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 12:37:15 AM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote:

> Friend said: "With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one 
> foot to touch the ground."
>
> Shouldn't this be true of any bike, regardless of standover height?
>
> On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-8 Friend wrote:
>
>> I'm 6'2" with a 92cm PBH and I ride a 62cm Appaloosa with 45mm tires. 
>>  With my butt on the saddle I can get my tippy toes of one foot to touch 
>> the ground.  Stand over is right at my groin bone.  I would ride it any 
>> smaller or any larger.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:11:50 AM UTC-5 boblo...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Here is a chart from the Riv site:  
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:13:00 AM UTC-6 David Wadstrup wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good morning, Bones,
>>>>
>>>> Just sent a PM.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone able to tell me what the PBH range is for this 62cm frame? 
>>>> I've hunted around online and can't turn anything up.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all!
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bump. I'll drop the price for local pickup to $900. Make me an offer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bones
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> $1000 shipped CONUS or can arrange for local pickup (NJ, outside of 
>>>>>> Philadelphia)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ever since I moved the kiddos over to my Cargo Clem I've had a hard 
>>>>>> time finding a job for my Apploosa. It's a wonderful bike but I simply 
>>>>>> do 
>>>>>> not need an All-Rounder while I have other bikes better suited to each 
>>>>>> type 
>>>>>> of riding I do. Two years of beausage. No dents or dings other than some 
>>>>>> mild depressions on the chainstays from the super-duper kickstand I used 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> use. There are some moderate scrapes near the crank and inside the drive 
>>>>>> side chainstay (loose chain incident). Other small scrapes here and 
>>>>>> there. 
>>>>>> The attached pictures should show it all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please PM me with any questions. Thanks!
>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS MUSA Hunqapillar complete 58cm

[Friend]

It comes complete as shown in the pictures with the bag and all?  Would you 
consider a trade?

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 8:34:10 PM UTC-5 Robert Hakim wrote:

> There is certainly a lot to like about that build! Good thing it is too 
> small for me :-)
>
> BTW, I love the second photo with the cat ogling the Riv. Clearly it is a 
> cylophile just as we are!
>
> -Robert 
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 8:08:02 PM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
> Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
>> Hi John! 
>> I just don’t have the capacity to take on larger projects at the moment. 
>>   To kick the ball back in your direction, you could part it out and do 
>> quite well offsetting your cost of the frame 😊
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTT Hunqapillar for Joe Appaloosa

[Friend]

Bummer cause I've got a 62cm Appaloosa and would definitely be interested. 
 Would you sell this?

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:57:45 AM UTC-5 s...@macksbikeandgoods.com 
wrote:

> Hey Bunch
>
> I am thinking about trying to trade my 62cm Hunqapillar frame for a 57cm 
> Joe appaloosa frame. 
>
> I love my Hunq and don't have to trade it but I have been thinking about a 
> slightly smaller frame with some of the same attributes as my hunq... 
>
> I am looking for a 57cm Joe Appaloosa preferably in orange. Would also 
> consider a trade for a 59cm Hunqapillar possibly.
>
> Trading frame only!  
>
> [image: C2800C43-343D-4DC7-88BA-1006505FFBA1.JPG]
>
>
> [image: DA2E28CD-CE4A-491C-8DDB-18F23CD7E1C1.JPG][image: 
> 6110CC5C-5BE4-4CF1-B569-E4DDEF83CCAE.JPG][image: 
> 35FA6ADB-E7AE-4F5C-B291-E0C515C0DB65.JPG][image: 
> 6894BFEE-1746-4D1F-8A75-21D6F0627370.JPG]
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[RBW] Switching Appaloosa from 700 to 650b

[Friend]

Hey Friends,
I ride a 62cm Appaloosa and love it.  When I ride it the size seems 
perfect.  When I straddle it the top tube is *right* in my groin.  It makes 
me hesitant when riding it off road.  I have thought of switching it to 
650b rims to gain an extra 2.5 cm but I'm not sure it's worth it.  Other 
option is trying to trade for a 58cm which I have never ridden.  Has anyone 
been in a similar predicament?  2.5cm seems insubstantial to make the 
switch to 650b.

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[RBW] WTB - Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass Tires

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Used or new, one or a pair.  I'm located in VA.

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass Tires

[Friend]

I bought a pair from Christopher above, but I'm sure someone else will be 
interested.

On Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 4:38:45 PM UTC-5, Joe T wrote:
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 11:16:19 AM UTC-6, Friend wrote: 
> > Used or new, one or a pair.  I'm located in VA. 
>
> I have a pair that I mounted tubeless but never seen pavement.  700x44 
> Standard. They have Orange Seal boogers that I have to clean up but they 
> are new. I’ll post photos for you soon. 
>
> JT

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 58 cm Bleriot 650b Dynamo hub near Philadelphia

[Friend]

Want to post all your CL links here so we can check them out?

On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 1:54:06 PM UTC-5, Drivel wrote:
>
> I'm the seller. I have the Cheviot and will be selling a 61cm Atlantis, a 
> Bruce Gordon Rock and Roll Tour and possibly a black Homer Hilsen. I'll be 
> in contact with Roberta. I was trying to sell these locally first. Shipping 
> these isn't much fun. 

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[RBW] Speed wobble

[Friend]

Does anyone have suggestions for correcting a wobble I get when I ride with 
no hands?

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[RBW] Re: Homer x Rene Herse

[Friend]

My homer clears Snoqualmia passes easily

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:36:34 PM UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> To those who’ve tried: will my Waterford Homer clear Snoqualmie Pass or 
> Hurricane Ridge RH tires? 
>
> Thanks, 
> D. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Speed wobble

[Friend]

This is happening on the Homer.  It has a large saddle bag but when I was 
riding yesterday, with maybe 5 or 7 pounds on the rear rack, it still had 
wobble going about 12mph.  I did buy it used but it's the factory fork.  I 
think it may also have something to do with the handlebars.  They are 
albastache on a dirt drop stem so they are pretty high off the steering 
column.  

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 5:11:19 PM UTC-4, lambbo wrote:
>
> Dearest Friend, 
>
> Is this happening on the used Homer you bought or the new-from-riv 
> Appaloosa?   I bought my Cheviot used on this list, and it got speed wobble 
> at certain speeds down hills.  Later, I got in an accident and bought a new 
> fork from Rivendell, and the bike no longer wobbles.  I don't know if it 
> was that I re-installed the fork and messed with the headset, or if it was 
> the new fork.   
>
> Good luck! 
>
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 2:56:53 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>
>> Yeah. That is my experience as well. 
>> Mostly it's about the weight between fore/aft. 
>> They tend to be speed-specific. They'll happen at 18 mph, but not at 17, 
>> for example.
>>
>> Jobst wrote some (fairly strongly opinionated) missives about this - this 
>> came up first: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/shimmy.html
>>
>> The only time I've had a wobble was one brevet on the Hilsen, in which 
>> I'd aft-loaded 2x the amount of planned gear due to a weather change, had 
>> nothing on the front, and sat up as I crested a hill and glided no handed. 
>> Got a wiggle-wiggle-wiggle and shifted forward slightly, at which point 
>> it stopped. I never managed to reproduce it with more mindful loading.
>>
>> Ride buddy JimG had a long struggle with his Kogswell on this topic - he 
>> had documented it well, which ought to be searchable through his site - 
>> http://yojimg.net/bike/  
>>
>> Jim / cyclofiend
>>
>> On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 4:46:49 AM UTC-7, Peter White wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never found that wheel alignment, which is actually frame 
>>> alignment, has any effect on wobble. If the frame is out of alignment the 
>>> two wheels will not follow the same line when the bike is moving in a 
>>> straight line. For example, if the rear wheel is tracking to the right of 
>>> the front wheel when moving in a straight line, the bike will tend to turn 
>>> towards the right. This is easiest to feel when riding no hands. But this 
>>> won't cause the bike to wobble.
>>>
>>> Peter White
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 9:48 PM Fryett  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you wheels perfectly aligned within the frame?
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 7:01:24 PM UTC-7, Friend wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have suggestions for correcting a wobble I get when I ride 
>>>>> with no hands?
>>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Peter White
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Speed wobble

[Friend]

Interesting.  I ride Antelope Hills.

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 12:33:53 PM UTC-4, Sean on Bike wrote:
>
>
> I had the same issue with my Hilsen when using a brevet bag with very 
> moderate weight and rack. I since no longer use that set up but shimmy 
> persisted. 
>
> The culprit ended up being the tires–my beloved Jack Brown greens. Bike 
> shop said tires vary in how "true" they're manufactured–to use my own 
> terminology, some manufacturers being better than other. Ever since, I've 
> been riding Schwalbe Marathon Supremes and Continental Grand Prix 4's and 
> shimmy's gone away. 
>
> Jus' sayin'.
>
> Sean in Eden Prairie
>
>
> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:01:24 PM UTC-5, Friend wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have suggestions for correcting a wobble I get when I ride 
>> with no hands?
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS Feeler: 62 Appaloosa frameset, blue

[Friend]

I'd be all over this 5 months ago.  Great deal and a beautiful ride.  What 
is the front bag on it?

On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 12:56:52 PM UTC-4, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike, I happen to agree! But perhaps I'm biased. 
>
> R
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 11:30:17 AM UTC-5, Mike Williams wrote:
>>
>> Too big for me but $800 seems like a steal
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>

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[RBW] FS - Choco bars, Sram levers, Profile design stem

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https://imgur.com/a/BgeItDA

The bars - I'm asking $70 total

$30 shipped for the levers and $30 for the stem.

Happy to hear offers.  I'm not going to use them so any price above what 
shipping costs I'll entertain.

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[RBW] Re: FS - Choco bars, Sram levers, Profile design stem

[Friend]

Bars and levers are sold.

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 9:15:29 AM UTC-4, Hetchins52 wrote:
>
> Tried to DM you. Please write back about the Choco bars. 
>
> DELipsky @ yahoo.com 
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 1:36:27 PM UTC+1, Friend wrote: 
> > https://imgur.com/a/BgeItDA 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The bars - I'm asking $70 total 
> > 
> > 
> > $30 shipped for the levers and $30 for the stem. 
> > 
> > 
> > Happy to hear offers.  I'm not going to use them so any price above what 
> shipping costs I'll entertain. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Friend]

Eric, I'd love to see a picture of your Joe App but the link is not working 
for me.  Anyone else?

On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 1:59:44 AM UTC-4, Eric Grim wrote:
>
> Greetings!  I bought one of Alex Wirth's remaining RBW *Joe Appaloosa* 
> bikes, the 58cm one.  It arrived Wednesday, and I changed a couple of parts 
> (saddle, tires, pedals; little things just to make it mine).  Today I took 
> it for a few minutes ride, all I had time for, and it was great.  It gave 
> me a permagrin.  I would not have thought a 22-inch frame would be near big 
> enough for me, but with the big tires the fit is very comfortable (such a 
> short test ride, I know).
>
> That's a Makeshifter Canvas Works *Outback* saddlebag (bought from 
> another member of this list).  Tomorrow the bike'll get a Nitto R10 
> saddlebag support rack to help hold it off the tire (that's why the picture 
> shows a green zip tie holding the bag to the seat post).
>
> I think the butterscotch-colored frame looks good with the brown Brooks 
> saddle and the brown Little Big Ben tires.  At 38mm wide (nominal) the 
> tires aren't so wide, but they're wider than the tires on any of my other 
> bikes.  Pressure is about five atmos, and they feel really cushy.
>
> I bought an RBW *Atlantis *frame last fall, but have not finished getting 
> parts to build it up.  When Alex Wirth posted notice of the remaining RBW 
> bikes since the closure of his shop (sad!) I fell in love with the 
> Appaloosa, especially the fork crown.  Sure the Atlantis has a lovely fork 
> crown, but it's the same as the crown on my Grant-designed Soma San Marcos 
> (bought from fellow lister Nick).  So I already have an example of that 
> one.  Anyway I'll be posting the Atlantis frame "for sale" on this group 
> soon, FYI (59cm).
>
> I'll take this bike on a longer shakedown ride in a few days, along one of 
> our local rails-to-trails MUPs.  There's one that runs thru Turnbull 
> Wildlife Refuge, and then the pavement runs out and it's just RR ballast 
> (very coarse gravel, albeit nice and level).  I want to see how the bike 
> feels on that rough surface.  I bet it'll be nice, whereas it's pretty 
> punishing on narrow tires.
>
> I hope the link to a groogle pics web address works.  I looked for a 
> "sticky" on the best way to post pics to the group, but didn't find it.  I 
> will be pleased to learn a better way if you share it with me.
>
> Cheers, Eric "Limper" Grim (Spokane)
>
> https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipPjqqbJmD1ZZDg6YhOvN0AeFPYMRsmC5MOSefM
>
>

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[RBW] Economical Clem

[Friend]

My friend is in search of a new bike.  Everything she describes screams 
CLEM to me.  Touring capable.  Big tire clearance.  Upright.  Potentially 
Stepthrough.  Thing is, it's hard to find a complete Clem for less than 
$1,300.  If you were trying to come close, with say, half that amount, what 
would you search for?  Thanks for any suggestions

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[RBW] Re: Economical Clem

[Friend]

I completely agree.  I think it needs to be a Clem.  The search is on. 
 Thanks for the encouragement.

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 7:26:49 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Not that another 'I agree' is needed, but...I agree.
>
> If your friend is willing to keep it fairly stock and is under 5'10" 
> (those 80s and 90s Specialized mountain bikes were not designed for taller 
> riders), an old Rockhopper might do the job nicely. They were really 
> wonderful bikes. But as Bill pointed out, replacing parts to turn it into a 
> Clem adds up real quick. And then you don't have a Clem. You have a 
> Rockhopper. Who's resale value (with all the fancy new parts) probably 
> still isn't too much more than what you paid for the stock bike. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 3:15:51 PM UTC-4, Adam Leibow wrote:
>>
>> if you are trying to do this super budget, find an old fully rigid 
>> complete stumpjumper or rockhopper from the early 90s, add the riv 
>> accoutrements, (swap the bars to boscos, add fenders, brooks saddle, 
>> basket+racks, schwalbe fat tires). done deal for easily under $600. 
>> alternatively, find a vintage MTB frameset with good clearances and build 
>> it up riv style. i have done so many builds like this.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 7:44:29 PM UTC-7, Friend wrote:
>>>
>>> My friend is in search of a new bike.  Everything she describes screams 
>>> CLEM to me.  Touring capable.  Big tire clearance.  Upright.  Potentially 
>>> Stepthrough.  Thing is, it's hard to find a complete Clem for less than 
>>> $1,300.  If you were trying to come close, with say, half that amount, what 
>>> would you search for?  Thanks for any suggestions
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Clem H or L, 45 or 52cm

[Friend]

Looking for a used Clem H in 45cm to a used Clem L in 45 or 52cm.  Complete 
or frame, fork, and bb.  Located in VA if a pickup is possible but 
otherwise expecting to buy and have shipped.

Thanks for any leads.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Steve Rex touring fork w/ Paul Racer brake, Pass&Stow rack

[Friend]

The rack does not tho?

On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 12:44:05 PM UTC-4, Paul M wrote:
>
> Hello, I sold my Steve Rex touring frame and kept the fork to put on my 
> Rosco. I've decided not to, so maybe someone could use it for their 
> Rivendell or another project. The fork comes with the Paul Racer braze-on 
> brake and a custom Pass & Stow front platform rack that fits this forks 
> braze-on. It also includes a Super Nova E3 headlight with internal wiring 
> through the rack stay.  The whole set-up came off a bike that had less than 
> 1K miles on it. Email me off site for more info or photos.$425 plus 
> shipping  Thanks, Paul
>
> 1" threaded fork with 260mm steertube, threads start at 210mm, 50mm of 
> actual threads, axle-crown height 395mm c-t, fits 45c tires. Would work on 
> a frame that has 190mm -220mm headtube.
>
> Here are some current prices of these components:
>
> Rex touring fork w/ Paul Racer braze-on  $500
> Pass & Stow rack  $280
> Paul Racer brake   $170
> Supernova headlight  $190
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Clem H

[Friend]

Andrew, There is one in Durham NC at a great price.  Check the CL listings 
there.  Maybe they'd ship.

On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 6:57:08 PM UTC-4, Andrew Huston wrote:
>
> Doddling is my specialty Joe!  Paralysis by analysis!

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[RBW] Re: FS: (1)56cm Bombadil Frame, Fork, Headset and Bullmoose Bar (1) 61cm Rambouillet Complete

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Wow that Bombadil is gorgeous!!

On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 5:09:21 PM UTC-4, John W wrote:
>
> AJ, 
>
> What are the dimensions of the Ram? (Your saddle height, top tube, and 
> seat tube.) I wasn’t aware that the Ram ever came in a 61 size. 

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Friend]

Thats a beautiful Ram!  What saddle bag have ya got there?  Looks 
expandable.

On Friday, July 19, 2019 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-4, Omar Sandoval wrote:
>
> A picture of my Rambouillet. :)
>
>
>
> [image: 20190627_180027.jpg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell parts

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How worn are the Big Ben's? Would you pm me? I'm on a cell phone 

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[RBW] Re: Pitted German mirror and possible WTB the mirror

[Friend]

So much action to follow!  Any more mirrors available?  Also could use one 
for a Clem L that's on the way.  And what do ya'll mean by pitted?

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 4:30:42 PM UTC-4, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>
> This group is the BEST!
>
> I was able to secure one right after I posted this from someone who was 
> quick on the PM email response!  
>
> I hope everyone can get the mirror of his dreams!  :)  I'm unhappy about 
> the pitting, but it is an elegant looking mirror.
>
> Thank you to ALL.  Thank you to Joe.
>
> Roberta
>
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 10:23:00 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Roberta, yes they get pitted, it's kind of annoying. I have two I'm not 
>> using, if you email me I'll hook you up with one for, say, $15 shipped?
>
>

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[RBW] WTB and FS - Brooks B67, Sackville bag & Carradice bag and QR

[Friend]

Brooks B67 - Anyone departing with one of these?  New or slightly used?

Sackville banana sack or Bagboy sack new or used.  Looking to buy.

For sale - Carradice Nelson Longflap bag and QR system for sale.  Email me 
and I can send you pictures if you're interested.

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB and FS - Brooks B67, Sackville bag & Carradice bag and QR

[Friend]

Bump on selling this bag.  $75 + shipping is what I'm asking but I am open 
to offers.  

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[RBW] Re: WTB and FS - Brooks B67, Sackville bag & Carradice bag and QR

[Friend]

The Carradice bag and QR has been sold.  I've found a saddle.  If anyone 
has a banana sack or larger sackville bag, holler.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 8:57:49 PM UTC-4, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> I have a blue banana sack I'd part with if you haven't found one.

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[RBW] Re: Make my AHH look less tempting!

[Friend]

Other ideas.  Buy ball bearings that barely fit inside allen wrench 
key-holes and smear them in there with bees wax.  You have to melt the wax 
to get them out.  
Lock your bike between other bikes and lock the wheels and frame (I keep a 
hefty u-lock at my most frequented bike rack, then travel with another when 
I go elsewhere)

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 3:04:00 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Evening all-
>
> I'm interested in some group brainstorming. I recently moved to a 
> university area where I'm told there is a high incidence of bike theft. 
> (Granted this is a town in the UK and I just move here from Philadelphia, 
> so perhaps I should take that claim with a grain of salt). Nevertheless, my 
> AHH will shortly arrive here via Bikeflights. 
>
> I'm a firm believer in riding my 'good bikes' anywhere and everywhere, but 
> I don't want to tempt fate. So I'm looking for ideas: how could I make my 
> Hilsen look less desirable to opporunistic British bike thrives? It's brown 
> and has albatross bars so it already looks a bit like an old British beater 
> to the uninformed. But all brainstorming welcome! I was thinking lots of 
> stickers and a bit of thoughtfully-smeared dirt.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: F.S. Choco Moose Bars nitro, rims, grand bois 650B Tires etc....

[Friend]

PM sent for front rack.

On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 3:20:56 PM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> Dylan,
> PM offer sent for Paul Racers, White Hetres, and G-ones.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Hankinson
> (616)928-4226
>

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[RBW] Re: FS:Brooks B17 Champion Special Antique Brown Phil Wood touring Hubs Scott Mathauser Brake pads.

[Friend]

How much for some brake pads? The ones in the bottom right?

On Saturday, November 2, 2019 at 11:17:35 AM UTC-4, hobie wrote:
>
> 1-Brooks B17 Champion Special Antique Brown used lightly. Still very 
> stiff,firm. No sag. Some patina, large copper rivets. $85.00 shipped
> 2-Phil Wood Touring hubset. 135mm 36 hole 8 speed cassette rear, 100mm 36 
> hole front. $350.00 shipped
> 3-Misc. New Brake pads. Scott Mathauser, Kool Stop, Weimann 
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Re: [RBW] FS:Brooks B17 Champion Special Antique Brown Phil Wood touring Hubs Scott Mathauser Brake pads.

[Friend]

I sent you a PM.  If ya didn't get it, message me.

On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 2:18:35 PM UTC-5, hobie wrote:
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> Bruce. sorry it sold. Thanks
>
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 12:57 PM Bruce Curry  > wrote:
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>> Is that saddle still avail? Bruce 
>> currybruce3atgmail
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[RBW] Surly 8 pack-rack & Joe Appaloosa

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Does anyone have experience with the Surly 8 or 24 pack rack on a Joe 
Appaloosa?  I am curious if the top connection point is compatible.

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[RBW] Single speeds

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Rivendell Friends,
I have rarely ever experienced a single speed bike.  I can count the number 
of times one one hand I have ridden one.  I know have the opportunity to 
build up a AHH and am considering a single speed, or a 1x9(or 10,11,12). 
 Then reading Rivs email today I saw Will rides a 2x1.

*What do you like about riding a 1x(X) or a single speed?*

*What are pros and cons of different gear configurations?*

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[RBW] Re: 40mm tire question

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Does the measurement for a tire include the knobs if it is a trail tire? 
 Or does a 42mm knobby tire extend beyond a 42mm bald tire?

On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 2:24:19 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Oh, and a simple way to test if a tire will fit is to use a compass to 
> draw a 44 mm circle on an index card or cardstock, mark where your rim ends 
> on your frame (2 spots rear, one front), remove your wheel(s) and hold the 
> circle there to see what clearence you have. 
>
> Which bike you riding? Do you know if it takes 40’s fendered? Because if 
> so, you’re likely fine with 44s, though it may be snug. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] FS: Garmin GPS watch & Giro shoes sz. 12.5

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Very lightly used.  Only owner of both items.  The watch comes with 
everything included in original purchase, the shoes are just the shoes. 
 The clip attachments shown in the photos are not included (But I do have a 
pair of issi pedals I will sell too)

Photos:
https://imgur.com/a/ymvCRsM

My objective is to get rid of them, not to make money, so any offer that 
will cover shipping plus a little bit will likely be accepted!  (I'm in 
Virginia)

Giros page for the shoes
https://www.giro.com/us_en/privateer-r-38.html

Best Buys page for Garmin
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/garmin-forerunner-10,review-2632.html

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[RBW] Re: FS: Garmin GPS watch & Giro shoes sz. 12.5

[Friend]

Garmin sold!  Anyone want these shoes?

On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 9:54:58 AM UTC-5, Friend wrote:
>
> Very lightly used.  Only owner of both items.  The watch comes with 
> everything included in original purchase, the shoes are just the shoes. 
>  The clip attachments shown in the photos are not included (But I do have a 
> pair of issi pedals I will sell too)
>
> Photos:
> https://imgur.com/a/ymvCRsM
>
> My objective is to get rid of them, not to make money, so any offer that 
> will cover shipping plus a little bit will likely be accepted!  (I'm in 
> Virginia)
>
> Giros page for the shoes
> https://www.giro.com/us_en/privateer-r-38.html
>
> Best Buys page for Garmin
> https://www.tomsguide.com/us/garmin-forerunner-10,review-2632.html
>

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[RBW] WTB: Atlantis 50cm, Appaloosa 51, or Cheviot 50/55

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I am looking to buy a complete in one of these models.  I am in Virginia. 
 There is an Appaloosa in my area for $1,600 so I am hoping to get cheaper 
than that.

Sincerely,
Your Friend

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

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PM Sent.  Let me know if ya got it!

On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 3:47:12 PM UTC-5, esoterica etc wrote:
>
>
> Bingo! It’s working now! 
>
>
> > On Feb 22, 2019, at 15:03, Chris Birkenmaier  > wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi Mark. You are right about that. I tried to put them in a batch and 
> then change permissions. I hope that does the trick 
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report, Brothers in CA

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Great write up Lambbo.  Makes me want check out Tomales!

On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 10:40:02 PM UTC-5, lambbo wrote:
>
> For years now I've been ogling the photos shared here of rides in the SF 
> area, and thinking about how I could make my way out there with a Rivendell 
> to do some climbing and have ocean views and not freeze to death...an 
> escape from Brooklyn was necessary.  
> In early December I asked the group for suggestions on a 3 day loop from 
> SF heading north... I was finally planning a trip out to see my brother and 
> have a little adventure.  
> There were lots of options, and we took a bit from a number of routes the 
> list shared; we started by taking the ferry to Vallejo and continuing up to 
> St.Helena, then heading up and over to Tomales, and finally back to SF 
> along rt. 1.
>
> A week before the ride I went around to some local bike shops and 
> eventually, at 718 Cycles, found a bike box to pack my Roadini into for the 
> flight. I've never done this, but I'm an artist and have packed a lot of 
> artwork, so I approached it like that...foam and zip-ties all around.  I 
> also watched a Rinko video by Jan Heine, which was really useful.   I have 
> the MKS Rinko pedal system on my Roadini, which made packing and setting 
> back up that much easier (being able to pop the pedals off without a wrench 
> is also great for saving space in the hallway to our apartment).  Alaskan 
> Air took it as a checked bag for no extra fee! When I arrived, I pulled the 
> bike out of the box, put the bars, wheels, and seat back on, popped on my 
> pedals, and was off in under 10 minutes! 
>
> My brother is in better shape than I am, and rides a delightfully light 
> weight Cad12 aluminum road machine, so I knew we would need to plan the 
> trip with days short enough that I could handle the climbing, and that he 
> could stay comfortable his plastic saddle. I only have a small saddlesac 
> for my Roadini, and my bro has a small RoadRunner bag, so we decided not to 
> camp.  Short credit card tour; there are definitely folks who have ridden 
> this exact route, about 150 miles, in one day. But we wanted to have fun 
> and hang out, which we did!
>
> 1 
> We started with 48 easy, relatively flat, miles on day one, keeping a 
> comfortable 16 mph average and just enjoying the beautiful warmth and new 
> surroundings as we cruised up the not-so pretty Nappy-Vallejo Highway for 
> some less comfortable but still beautiful miles (lots of traffic, none of 
> it cyclists) before getting onto the Silverado Trail, which really was 
> incredible.  Less traffic and many little side roads to explore, most 
> leading to spectacular vineyards.  We stayed on this route until 
> 'Zinfendel', essentially the outskirts of St Helena, where we had our 
> little B&B.  After chatting with the groundskeeper for a while, who gave us 
> a bottle of the owner's wine, we ditched our bikes and went into town, and 
> had one of the best pasta dishes I've ever had anywhere in the world 
> (Spaghetti with a parmesan-broth sauce over meatballs) and some stellar 
> wine.  I understand now why people go to Napa. 
>
> 2 
> The next day it was raining, but we were prepared with rain-kit.  I should 
> point out that I'm a wool-sweater, cotton t-shirt kind of rider, I don't 
> usually go for 'kit', but my brother is into it and, partly in excitement 
> about this trip, got me a Rapha winter jacket, and I got myself a Rapha 
> rain jacket (both on 60% off), and combined with my Rapha bib shorts which 
> I always wear on long rides, I was really comfortable through many showers 
> and even what felt like some hail, and everything fit easily into my jersey 
> pocket for the next weather change.  I still prefer a sweater for 
> breathability, but wouldn't it be nice if it fit in your back pocket, and 
> had it's own back pockets? ...thus I've been convinced of some 'kit'. 
> Especially the rain jacket - it's made for biking in the rain, and, thus, 
> is well suited for biking in the rain.  Anyways, we set out of St. Helena 
> to tackle our first real climb, and one of the biggest climbs I've done in 
> a long long time, over Spring Mountain road.  According to my altimeter, we 
> climbed about 2000 ft in 5 miles.  I know for you Californians that 
> probably just sounds like a normal 'hill', but here NYC we have the 
> Williamsburg Bridge and Bear Mountain, and that's about it, so my average 
> long ride doesn't have more than 3500ft climbing total.  I really enjoyed 
> the long climb in the rain, with huge evergreens coming up from below the 
> side of the road, so we could only see them from the center up, and 
> vineyards along the the way, everything dripping in viridian and chromium 
> and bright pthalo greens, the saturation amplified by the grey of the day. 
>  On the harrowingly fast winding and long descent I was thankful for the 
> stability 

[RBW] Pitlock Skewer assistance

[Friend]

Hi friends,
I recently got a Pitlock skewer set and after I installed it I noticed some 
play/wiggle in my rear rim.  When I try to tighten the skewer further the 
bald/coned end just turns with it.  I can't seem to get the skewer tight 
enough but it seems to be the same length and my previous quick release 
skewer.  Any tips, thoughts, or experience that might help are welcome.

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[RBW] Re: Pitlock Skewer assistance

[Friend]

Yes, it's moving in the dropout.  With the normal qr skewers it tightens 
just fine.  The bike and wheels are brand new from Riv.  

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 4:28:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Is the axle moving in the dropout? If it's not and the rim has play, your 
> hub bearings need to be adjusted. 

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[RBW] Re: Pitlock Skewer assistance

[Friend]

the front pitlock is fine.  When I tighten the rear one with the key, 
wrench, & greased threads, the coned end just spins.  It never gets tight 
enough to prevent movement in the dropout.  I tried to get a hold of the 
coned end with pliers but still can't get it tight enough.  It's on a new 
Joe Appaloosa.

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 4:37:38 PM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I use pitlocks on my AHH and HHH. 
>
> I'm not sure that I understand: "When I try to tighten the skewer further 
> the bald/coned end just turns with it."--> How are you tightening the 
> skewer? Are you tightening with the pit key and a wrench? And it's not 
> tightening? Are the threads stripped? 
>
> Did you install the front pitlock? and it went fine? 
>
> Shoji
> Arlington MA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 4:30:21 PM UTC-5, Friend wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it's moving in the dropout.  With the normal qr skewers it tightens 
>> just fine.  The bike and wheels are brand new from Riv.  
>>
>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 4:28:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Is the axle moving in the dropout? If it's not and the rim has play, 
>>> your hub bearings need to be adjusted. 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Pitlock Skewer assistance

[Friend]

Thanks for all the advice!  It's been solved.  I'm just going to call it a 
silly user error.

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 5:18:40 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Is the threaded portion the same? Perhaps you’ve reached the end of the 
> threads on the skewer before it gets tight?
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Friend > 
> wrote:
>
> the front pitlock is fine.  When I tighten the rear one with the key, 
> wrench, & greased threads, the coned end just spins.  It never gets tight 
> enough to prevent movement in the dropout.  I tried to get a hold of the 
> coned end with pliers but still can't get it tight enough.  It's on a new 
> Joe Appaloosa.
>
> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 4:37:38 PM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I use pitlocks on my AHH and HHH. 
>>
>> I'm not sure that I understand: "When I try to tighten the skewer further 
>> the bald/coned end just turns with it."--> How are you tightening the 
>> skewer? Are you tightening with the pit key and a wrench? And it's not 
>> tightening? Are the threads stripped? 
>>
>> Did you install the front pitlock? and it went fine? 
>>
>> Shoji
>> Arlington MA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 4:30:21 PM UTC-5, Friend wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, it's moving in the dropout.  With the normal qr skewers it tightens 
>>> just fine.  The bike and wheels are brand new from Riv.  
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 4:28:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is the axle moving in the dropout? If it's not and the rim has play, 
>>>> your hub bearings need to be adjusted. 
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Compass Antelope Pass 700 x 55: the fat tire arms race continues

[Friend]

I'm very tempted by these for my new Joe Appaloosa.  It will be these or 
the 45mm Compass's...  

On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 12:16:48 AM UTC-5, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> everybody, it's Antelope *Hill*, not pass. Here is my clem L w/ them. 
> These tires would not fit on any Sam Hillborne - for the Sam you need the 
> Snoqualmie Passes. These AH are incredibly nice. Here they are on deer park 
> on mt tamalpais. 
>
> [image: 46300772855_5feaa1657c_k.jpg]
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 8:48:35 AM UTC-7, Neil Doran wrote:
>>
>> Just when you thought Compass was out of fat-tire ideas, behold: 
>> https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/tires/700c/compass-700c-x-55-antelope-hill-tc/
>>
>> I seem to recall Jan stating that 700c tire fatness is optimal at about 
>> 35mm, and that going wider is...sub-optimal? Maybe he will chime in here.
>>
>> I can't imagine many non-disc-brake frames fitting these monsters, but I 
>> wonder if I could squeeze them into my Sam with sidepull 559s. It will only 
>> cost me a small fortune to find out.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Compass Antelope Pass 700 x 55: the fat tire arms race continues

[Friend]

According to the geometry chart, it would fit a 62cm Appaloosa.  Maybe a 
58cm as well.

On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 9:03:00 PM UTC-5, Tim Bantham wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the AH will fit on the Appaloosa? I thought a 50mm 
> would be about the max. Maybe the 55mm AH can still squeeze in? 
>
> On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 8:42:47 AM UTC-5, Friend wrote:
>>
>> I'm very tempted by these for my new Joe Appaloosa.  It will be these or 
>> the 45mm Compass's...  
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 12:16:48 AM UTC-5, Adam Leibow wrote:
>>>
>>> everybody, it's Antelope *Hill*, not pass. Here is my clem L w/ them. 
>>> These tires would not fit on any Sam Hillborne - for the Sam you need the 
>>> Snoqualmie Passes. These AH are incredibly nice. Here they are on deer park 
>>> on mt tamalpais. 
>>>
>>> [image: 46300772855_5feaa1657c_k.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 8:48:35 AM UTC-7, Neil Doran wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just when you thought Compass was out of fat-tire ideas, behold: 
>>>> https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/tires/700c/compass-700c-x-55-antelope-hill-tc/
>>>>
>>>> I seem to recall Jan stating that 700c tire fatness is optimal at about 
>>>> 35mm, and that going wider is...sub-optimal? Maybe he will chime in here.
>>>>
>>>> I can't imagine many non-disc-brake frames fitting these monsters, but 
>>>> I wonder if I could squeeze them into my Sam with sidepull 559s. It will 
>>>> only cost me a small fortune to find out.
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS big nitto front rack 34F

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I can't believe this rack is still available!  It seems like a steal.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 9:37:40 PM UTC-5, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> Primarily I use Carradice Super C fronts. I've used Karrimors which you 
> probably won't find. Have a wonderful set of Beckman's but you won't find 
> those either unless you're lucky. Jandd Mountain and Standard front 
> panniers. The Mountain panniers are small. The Standards are pretty big but 
> sloppy if you don't fill them.  You really gotta stuff 'em. The Super C's 
> are a wee bit small too, larger than the Jandd's MTB's I believe. Your 
> choice of panniers depend on what and how you pack your bike and where 
> you're going and how long you'll be out. With gargantuan racks like these 
> I'm assuming you're doing a 50/50 or 40/60 distribution. Oh yea I've also 
> used Ostrich. They are strapped on not hooked but in coolness they can't be 
> beat.  
>
> Super C's mounted:
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/43049824851
>
> Jandd MTB front panniers mounted: 
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/29460145875
>
> Standard Jandd fronts on the Riv AR on the right and old style Carradice 
> fronts on the Riv AR on the left. Both racks 34F's: 
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/17343692521
>
> Some full sized rear Karrimors used on a 34F: 
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/16055961218
>
> Craig in Tucson
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 6:08:44 PM UTC-7, John McBurney wrote:
>>
>> Any advice on panniers for the big Nitto racks would be appreciate. I 
>> have a bunch but have found fit to be a issue with some. 
>>
>> John 
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 6:14 PM John Bokman  wrote:
>>
>>> Tom, could you tell me what kind of panniers you used with this rack?
>>> Looking at the triangulation of the rack, I"m wondering if those added 
>>> supports might prevent me from mounting my Lone Peak panniers. I can't 
>>> adjust the hooks, unlike an ortlieb or some such. 
>>> Do you know if this rack was designed to be used with Riv panniers?
>>> Thanks. I like to use a heavy front load on my 32F, and am thinking it's 
>>> not so prudent. I also use panniers, so this rack might make sense, if it 
>>> can accept my panniers.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-8, Tom Horton wrote:

 used this rack lightly for a few years on my atlantis; now enamored of 
 wald baskets and not going back.

 it's in perfect shape,   asking 125 bucks plus shipping. if you are in 
 the baltimore washington area perhaps I could arrange a drop off.

 you can see the exact rack on riv's website.

 and still trying to unload my new, in box, 700c schwalbe g one speeds 
 60mm   make an offer. they retail for about 80 apiece I think.

 the rack has a couple custom made, bolt on doohickeys that made it fit 
 easier on my 68cm atlantis...you won't need 'em for anything smaller, but 
 included.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Carradice Super C Pannier question

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How's that waterproof-ness of the Super C rear bags?

On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 3:23:18 PM UTC-5, John Bokman wrote:
>
> Thanks Sean. That’s what I was thinking. I have some Super C Rear bags 
> coming.
> Wish the front bags were in between the size they are, and the large. Very 
> nice looking bags. They would be great for overnight trips and the like.
>
> On Mar 6, 2019, at 9:34 AM, sean > 
> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> The outside front pockets can easily fit a wallet. phone, keys. However, I 
> wouldn't recommend storing those things in such a vulnerable place (low to 
> the ground, near the wheel, kind of out of line of sight - might miss if 
> things pop out).
>
> The front panniers are great but the base is indeed smaller. You can 
> probably cram some binders in there, but not an optimum fit. Much better 
> for soft goods (clothes, loaves of bread, etc)
>
> Sean
>
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[RBW] Re: Fender hacks with marks rack & Tektro brake

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What seems easier to me is putting something on the bottom of the rack that 
extends back slightly.  Wouldn't look as nice but would be cheaper and 
easier.

On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 12:30:44 PM UTC-4, A. Nostuh wrote:
>
> Has anyone experimented with a similar fender installation ?
>
>
> I would love to try this on my cheviot with Tektro brakes. I want to have 
> my cake and eat it too (max out the tires AND fenders)
>
> This is clean looking too. From the blahg. 
>
> Al in Saratoga 
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

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How do you like those handlebars?  And what are they called?

On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 1:35:58 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Oops, I posted in my own thread, but forgot to add here. 53cm MIT 
> Atlantis. 
>   
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/MztdA8d4ADNy1WcD9 
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote: 
> > I have enjoyed this thread and the many beautiful and varied Rivendells. 
> > Here is my 56cm Hunqapillar.  I have owned an Atlantis, Romulus, Riv 
> Road, and Cheviot, but the Hunq is my favorite and now my only! 
> > 
> > Erl 
> > Kensington, MD 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 2:52:57 PM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman,central 
> Colorado wrote: 
> > > That's a beautiful build. 
> > > It has some smooth curves. 
> > > Nice work 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 8:58 AM Brett Callahan  
> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Hoping to jumpstart this thread, which I've thoroughly enjoyed, with a 
> photo of my Atlantis after a ride out to Boring, Oregon over the weekend.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

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And I've never seen a stem like that!! So cool.

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[RBW] WTT: Nitto bars for Nitto Bars

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Trying to get rid of a pair of Nitto (shaped like Bosco) bars like new 
condition.  49cm wide, 7cm rise, and 20cm draw back (all approximate).  I 
am looking for something wider, also with rise.  Bosco or Albatross.  54cm 
wide or wider.  Let me know if you're interested.

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Re: [RBW] WTT: Nitto bars for Nitto Bars

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I'm not sure what ships out with the Clem but as far as I can tell, yes 
they are 49cm wide Boscos.  I bought them on eBay and they didn't have a 
name like "Bosco" or "Albatross", just dimensions.  Email me directly and I 
can send you a picture.

On Sunday, April 7, 2019 at 6:13:12 PM UTC-4, David Bivins wrote:
>
> Like the Bosco that ships with the Clem? I will trade you mine. I swapped 
> mine out for a Chocomoose, but I wouldn't mind having narrower Bosco bars. 
> I can measure them later tonight.
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 6:59 PM Friend > 
> wrote:
>
>> Trying to get rid of a pair of Nitto (shaped like Bosco) bars like new 
>> condition.  49cm wide, 7cm rise, and 20cm draw back (all approximate).  I 
>> am looking for something wider, also with rise.  Bosco or Albatross.  54cm 
>> wide or wider.  Let me know if you're interested.
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[RBW] Re: FS -- Bike Bags, Riv and other

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PM sent about the Pass & Stow!!

On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 1:15:34 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
> Email sent about the large black Saddlesack.
> Thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] Friction vs Indexed

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I am getting ready to build up an AHH frame.  I am planning on putting 
noodle bars on it and having it be 3/9 with bar-end shifters.  I'm 
wondering whether people here prefer friction or indexed shifters, and why. 
 Would love to hear any thoughts.

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[RBW] Re: FS -- Bike Bags, Riv and other

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Has anyone hears back from Tom yet?

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 2:57:22 PM UTC-4, sameness wrote:
>
> My tells were the side pocket heights, the location of the label on the 
> front flap, and how low that kangaroo pocket sits relative to the leather 
> light hanging tab... thing. Prepared to be wrong, just trying to help.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:47:36 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> The tell on that blue bag is zippered pockets on the front, facing the 
>> seatpost. Hard to tell from the angle on those pics, if there's no zippers 
>> it's a medium. 
>
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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

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Here's my new (<300 miles) Joe Appaloosa.  I'm loving it.  I'm lucky to be 
able to say that this is part of my commute.  Trying to make some small 
changes on a budget.  Next upgrade will be some wider, slicker tires.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 9:25:10 PM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>
> His & her Sam 58s, on the local greenway in Raleigh.
>
> [image: 2_sams.JPG]
>
>
> Tom
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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Friend]

Thank you Lambbo!  Indeed that's the plan.  Working with the components I 
have, it will have drop bars, no fenders, and likely no racks.  Light and 
nimble.  I'll put the Caradice QR on the seat post that's currently on the 
Joe and have some slick 35mm tires on it.  The reason I haven't built it up 
yet is because I am still sitting on my Trek 520 and having 3 built bikes 
is too much room for me right now.  Pondering what to do with the Trek. 
 It's on the local CL, but no bites in a while.  And it's also handy for 
riding to places where it will be locked up outside for a long time. 
 Provides peace of mind not caring too much about it!!

On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 7:20:09 PM UTC-4, lambbo wrote:
>
> Friend!  Your appaloosa looks comfortable and capable, not to mention 
> sized right (or at least not too big for you).  So you're also building up 
> your AHH, is that going to be a go-fast speed demon to balance your sturdy 
> commuter?
>
>
> On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 3:25:50 PM UTC-4, Friend wrote:
>>
>> Here's my new (<300 miles) Joe Appaloosa.  I'm loving it.  I'm lucky to 
>> be able to say that this is part of my commute.  Trying to make some small 
>> changes on a budget.  Next upgrade will be some wider, slicker tires.
>>
>> [image: 20190412_144531-2.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 3:24:44 PM UTC-4, Friend wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's my new (<300 miles) Joe Appaloosa.  I'm loving it.  I'm lucky to 
>>> be able to say that this is part of my commute.  Trying to make some small 
>>> changes on a budget.  Next upgrade will be some wider, slicker tires.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 9:25:10 PM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>>>>
>>>> His & her Sam 58s, on the local greenway in Raleigh.
>>>>
>>>> [image: 2_sams.JPG]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] WTT: Nitto bars for Nitto Bars

[Friend]

Yep.  I'm at a loss also, but the bars have been shipped.  A trade 
happened!  Thanks for the help.

On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 3:09:41 AM UTC-4, Hetchins52 wrote:
>
> The interior diameter looks unlikely to accept a bar end shifter. 
> Otherwise, is the shape or rise of the Promenade different from a Bosco? It 
> looks very much like it.
> I don't see it on the "What Bars?" web site.
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 4:52:36 PM UTC-7, jonsan wrote:
>>
>> Looks like a Nitto B602 Promenade bar.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Big Bottle and Cage Recommendations

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I have Blackburns make of this.  I can attest that the dangling straps are 
not ideal and typing them up when you aren't carrying a bottle is a hassle. 
 However, I can strap in things that aren't a nalgene such as a rolled up 
jacket, small dry bag, etc.  When the Nalgene is in it, it doesn't budge.


On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 10:47:58 PM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
>
> How often do you plan to get the bottle out? I’ve found the king cage to 
> be extremely durable, with the only real downside being how cumbersome it 
> is to remove and reattach the bottle. I use mine to hold the very last 
> reserves of water, a sleeping bag, whiskey, etc...things I’ll only access 
> once a trip. I’d use a VO Mojave or widefoot for regularly accessed 
> bottleage. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Almost New Arkel Panniers: T-42 and T-28

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I PMed you.  If you didn't get it shoot me an email at jtpc...@gmail.com

On Friday, April 19, 2019 at 6:40:12 PM UTC-4, Sean on Bike wrote:
>
> Set of 4 panniers that are truly like new. The T-42's that saw one weekend 
> trip on my Homer Hilsen. One T-28 has been used more but still could pass 
> for a store display. The mate is virtually unused. Paying college 2 
> tuitions now; 'nuff said.
>
> If you're familiar with Arkel, you know they're built like a Rivendell, 
> will last your lifetime, and perhaps your children's too. Paid just under 
> $500 for the set with two T-42 raincovers. Those have never been unpacked 
> nor seen the light of day. 
>
> I'll ship everything, 4 panniers and two raincovers CONUS, for $285.
>
> Sean in Eden Prairie, MN
>
> Let me know if you have any trouble viewing images here: 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks, 26" Wheelset, 700c Wheelset, Yepp Mini Front Baby Carrier, Brooks B17 Brown Saddle

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On the Nitto front rack can you take the pannier hangers off and run it 
with just the taller wheel cover portion?

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 10:21:33 AM UTC-4, David B wrote:
>
> Bumping this - Yepp seat is spoken for. Everything else available.
>
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 3:19:54 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>>
>> Stuff for sale: odds & ends & a bike.
>> Paypal for payment, regular goods/services is fine.
>> Ships from Chicago-ish area. Local pickup HIGHLY encouraged for bike.
>> Prices DO NOT include shipping, as these are mostly larger items which 
>> will have varying shipping costs.
>> Photos will be uploaded shortly to my Instagram page: 
>> https://www.instagram.com/treetopgoods/ 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> David
>>
>> 1. Nitto R14 Top Rack - Hoop Version - nice condition, including a pair 
>> of longer then needs struts for top attachment, so should work on just 
>> about most frames - $100
>>
>> 2. Nitto Campee 27F Front Rack - lower attachments shortened to fit on 
>> top fork end eyelets, best fit for 26"/650b wheels, fit nicely on a 45cm 
>> Clem, very short struts included for mid/upper fork attachment and another 
>> set for cantilever stud attachments - $180
>>
>> 3. 26" Wheelset - older, possibly Riv-sanctioned wheelset due to 
>> mismatched hubs, Mustang rims, rear asymmetric, 32h, rear hub: Shimano 
>> Deore Parallax, 135mm, front hub: Suntour Cyclone (?) hub, rim width around 
>> 22/23mm, no skewers - $75
>>
>> 4. 700c/29" Wheelset - 36h, Shimano RS400 hubs, Sun Rhyno Lite silver 
>> rims - I built these up as a second wheelset for my Clem, but used them 
>> minimally and am just sticking with one wheelset and swapping tires 
>> seasonally - $100
>>
>> 6. Brooks B17 Saddle - brown, used for 10 miles at most, looks close to 
>> new aside from the rails - $80
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Choco Bars

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Did you get my message?

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 7:54:35 PM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> I would also be interested in Albatross or Billie bars
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 4:17:19 PM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a set they would like to sell?
>>
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Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

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The Portland problem is so real, and the Spring Water Corridor can be super 
sketchy.  I almost got jumped there once.  My brother and I parked our 
bikes by the MODA Center for a few hours one evening.  We knew it was 
sketchy.  We brought every lock we had and had our wheels, frames, seats, 
all secure to eacht others bike and to the rack.  We come back to find my 
brother grips were stolen...

The biggest suggestion I have for bike security is, unfortunately, don't 
lock up your rivendel on the sidewalk.  That's why I am keeping my 1999 
spray painted Trek 520.  One more thing.  Put ball bearings in all your 
allen wrench bolts.  Smear them in there with wax.  They are hard to get 
out without melting the wax.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 12:15:56 PM UTC-4, John McBurney wrote:
>
> Portland has had a real problem with bike theft. About the best you can do 
> is to make your bike more  inconvenient to steal than the next guys. 
>
> Suggestions:
>
> 1. Get the best lock you can and always take it with you. I like the Abus 
> Bordo Granit plus 9500 because it’s very strong and since it folds up and 
> goes in a carrier it’s always with me. Plus heaven forbid I need it, it’s a 
> close quarter self defense weapon. On the Springwater trail there were 
> stories of cyclists being forced off their bikes and “bike jacked” 
> especially women cyclists. 
>
> 2. Never leave your bike outside at night, locked or not. With a battery 
> powered angle grinder a thief can cut any lock or even most staples pretty 
> quickly and be off with your bike.  If people are around they are unlikely 
> to be so bold. 
>
> 3.  If you keep your bike in a garage or shed install an anchor and lock 
> it up there as well. Sheds and garages are frequent targets of bike thieves 
> and are soft targets. 
>
> I commute by bike daily. When we lived in Portland I was able to park in a 
> bike corral (which had actually been robbed when someone got the 
> combination) but I got called up for jury duty which meant parking on the 
> sidewalk in an area with a lot of dodgy characters. 
>
> So I used an Abus U lock on the front wheel and triangle, my Abus Bordo 
> 9500 on the rear wheel
> and triangle and an Abus Bordo 6000 and cable for my seat. 
>
> But the most important thing was I parked next to the space reserved for 
> motorcycle cops!
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:44 AM Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Erl: I'll happily photograph the chain lock, padlock, and rubber sheath, 
>> but it will have to wait until I next ride to Sprout's, and I will have to 
>> remember to do so.
>>
>> Basically, it's just heavy thick towing chain, ~3 feet, slipped into a 
>> section of 2" mtb tube, and locked with one of these:
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Best, Patrick
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:43 PM WETH > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick,
>>> I have created an image in my mind of Towing chain securing your bike at 
>>> Sprouts, but I would love a photo that also captures the tube covering the 
>>> chain. 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Erl
>>> Kensington, MD
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