[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Allan McLane]

Two additional data points…

Wife has 80PBH
50cm Rosco Platy (Circa 2022)
LOA 182cm (71.5”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 72.5” LOA)

I have 87 PBH
58cm Yves/Betty 
LOA 176cm (69.25”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 70”LOA)

Allan, in Marlboro, VT
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:03:10 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:

> *Bill requests: *
> *3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total 
> end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
> edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you*
>
> Total end-to-end length of 52cm Wilbury and 52cm Glorius is between 67.5" 
> and 68", both with 42mm 650b and fenders. The slight difference is due to 
> different fenders.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Leah
>>
>> My recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would 
>> include the following:
>>
>> 1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end 
>> to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of 
>> the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>
>> 2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end 
>> to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of 
>> the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>
>> 3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total 
>> end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
>> edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>
>> I think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv 
>> step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now 
>> she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you were 
>> eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced. 
>>  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or 
>> minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
>>> not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>>>
>>> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range 
>>> starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, 
>>> I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses 
>>> and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike 
>>> for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can 
>>> get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some 
>>> air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that 
>>> little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>>>
>>> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, 
>>> thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real 
>>> experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl 
>>> can have.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1983 Trek 720 FS, not by me, $299, NYC

[Allan McLane]

PM sent

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 7:07:57 AM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:

> Down to $250, for pick up only.
> Alan
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:40:47 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I hope you get some bites.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 5:13 AM alan lavine  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Patrick. I wasn't sure it would "qualify".
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 12:11:40 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Posted on iBob; seller said it's alright to post here; I figure that my 
 long-time presence on the list and the nature of the bike (long stays, I 
 think!) make it acceptable and I think listers will be interested.

 *Not mine:* please contact the owner directly: alan lavine <
 ciga...@gmail.com>

 On 2/14/24 03:53, alan lavine wrote:
 $299 anybody??
 Alan NYC

 On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 7:47:17 AM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
 Reduced to $325.

 On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 5:38:26 PM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:
 Hi All,
 Up for sale is this classic touring frame, thought to be one of the 
 best ever. The frame itself is fine, but the paint sucks from previous 
 touch up attempts. It rides fine as is, though aesthetically poor.
 The headset is stronglight but may need repacking. ST 60 cm, TT 57 cm, 
 both c-c. 
 I’m sure the members of this group know what this is but here is the CL 
 anyway: 
 newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/d/new-york-fs-vintage-touring-trek-720/7715824985.html

 Prefer local for now, but we’ll see how it goes.
 Thanks,
 Alan NYC

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[RBW] Re: Question about rear brake cable housing routing with low friction on a Clem

[Allan McLane]

Note, that’s a 135 degree noodle in the picture. I had first used a 90 
degree noodle but felt that the radius was too short and tight.


On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 12:24:09 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

@Alan - I do remember from last year ? seeing a green bike with a noodle 
for routing the rear brake cable. I thank-you for posting your picture of 
it again here. Your solution has come great possibilities with simplicity. 
I do have a noodle out in my bike tool box.
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question about rear brake cable housing routing with low friction on a Clem

[Allan McLane]

Kim,

The photo shows how Riv arranged the cable housing guide braze-on on this 
bike, a Rosco Platypus. The entire housing slides through the braze-on and 
the end of the housing slips into the entrance of the noodle. It isn’t 
really necessary but I also slipped a short length of clear tubing around 
the outside of noodle about midway along, just to hold it off the seat tube 
paint.

Here’s one source for that part:
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=205

Allan in SE Vt


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[RBW] Snake-in-a-bike

[Allan McLane]

Here's a tale from the “Well, I never thought I’d see that” department… 

This afternoon I was out on the Yvez Gomez, exercising the dog, when we 
encountered a smooth green snake (Opheodrys vernalis), sunning itself in 
the middle of the road. I stopped next to the snake to maneuver it to the 
side but it decided to climb up my back wheel spokes and inspect the 
interior of the cassette instead. After several failed attempts to nudge it 
along, it exited the cassette, went forward along the chainstay, and 
completely entered the fender, going up. 

To extract it from the inside of the fender I slowly rolled the bike 
backwards until the snake popped out the rear and onto the ground. At this 
point it had gotten the message well and slithered off into the stone wall. 

For the curious, full photo documentation here:
https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBpqQB


Allan in Marlboro, Vt

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[RBW] Re: Snake-in-a-bike

[Allan McLane]

That python was probably just attracted to the handlebar tape!

On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 4:05:40 PM UTC-4 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> That is remarkable.
> Thanks for capturing and sharing the pics.
>
> I first saw this pic years ago during the time I did a few bicycle tours.
>
> As I recall someone was touring in Indonesia and one morning was shocked 
> to find this critter checking out their touring bike.
>
> How would you go about shooing that beast away so you could begin the days 
> ride?
>
> Paul in Dallas 
> liam_box on instagram 
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Matt's Green Rosco Platypus (photos)

[Allan McLane]

Thanks, Eric, that’s a Shimano 135 degree noodle, found at Nashbar. I added 
the small bit of clear tubing as chafe-prevention.

Allan
Marlboro, Vt.
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:51:42 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking good, Matthew! I like the multi-colored zip ties. Those brass 
> caps, are they from Blue Lug? I've also seen some from Moné. I'm nuts for 
> brass but at $20/cap I'm too afraid to lose one. 
>
> Allan — The cable routing around the seatpost clamp is *tres* elegant! Is 
> that two noodles in sequence, diving into the rear canti hanger? 
> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:21:01 AM UTC-4 allan@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Nice job! I think that Rivendell should just go ahead issue the Rosco 
>> Platy as a standard model (and keep this color, too).
>>
>> Here’s how I detailed the rear brake hanger. Not so quickly adjusted but 
>> my wife hates me fiddling with her bike, now that it is dialed in. The 
>> green most closely looks like the seat tube in this photo.
>>
>> Allan McLane
>> Marlboro, Vt
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 3:06:47 AM UTC-4 Matthew Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Finished getting this Rosco Platypus together last month and took a few 
>>> photos on my ride today :) Picked up the frame, bars, and crank at the 
>>> Rivendell garage sale.
>>>
>>> Matthew Miller
>>> Long Beach, CA/USA
>>>
>>> [image: R0009714-Edit.jpeg]
>>> [image: R0009790 Large.jpeg][image: R0009796 Large.jpeg][image: 
>>> R0009772 Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>> 15 years on this Brooks so far.
>>> [image: R0009732 Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Used an old Dura-Ace front derailleur w/braze-on clamp.
>>> [image: R0009729 Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Fancy brass valve caps.
>>> [image: R0009802 Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Allan McLane]

I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have a 
NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a 
mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the 
next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has 
nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. 

Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the tandem 
frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening the 
seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat stays 
ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so they 
decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.

My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a Nitto 
long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to adjust the 
collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a frequent or 
big deal to me.

The collar: 

Looking forward to getting this frame!

Allan in Marlboro, Vermont 

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. That's 
> why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping and/or 
> missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you could 
> get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just eyeballing 
> it not really. 
>
>
> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the 
> reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are 
> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
> bike I ride ;-). 
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you 
>>> tell me from where to where.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
>>> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>


 I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone technology 
 things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the Rosco Platy 
 any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd at least see 
 what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple as it is a 
 fine alternative to the common production colors. 

 If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 

 HTA 69.5d
 STA 72d
 Effective TT 652mm
 Stack 666mm  
 Reach 430mm
 Chainstay 540mm
 Rake 67mm
 Front Center 726mm
 Drop 80mm 

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[RBW] Rosco Platy build, v1.0

[Allan McLane]

As with all things, plans and reality don’t always coincide but in this 
case my wife is very pleased with her new ride. Most of the parts were 
assembled on an old Royce Union mixte test mule that served for the time 
it’s taken to receive the Rosco Platy. 

The saddle is her favorite… and still to come, Al fender.

Photos here:
https://flickr.com/photos/78369585@N03/sets/72177720302507847  
<https://flickr.com/photos/78369585@N03/sets/72177720302507847>

Partial component list:

Nitto B347 Dove bars

Nitto NTC-225X110 stem w/ Crane bell

Riv Silver 1 shifters

Riv ThumbShifter Mount handlebar clamp for Silver shifters

Shimano un-300 118x68 bb

VO crank w/ TA 26-42 rings 

Shimano XT CS-M771 11-36T cassette

Shimano deore dx rd-m650

Shimano claris fd-r2000

10 sp chain 

Dia-Compe NCG-982 brakes

Kool Stop Cross Brake Pads

Dia-Compe SS-6 brake levers

Pitlock seatpost clamp w/ 34.9 to 29.8 shim

Nitto cable stop AS-2

Ukai rims/Suzue hubs

Grand Bois 584-42 Hetre, extra light tires

RH UD-2 cantilever front rack


Allan McLane

Marlboro, Vermont

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any Rosco framesets for sale?

[Allan McLane]

>Anyone know what Riv sold the frameset for when the Rosco Platypus was 
released?
$1,350 plus $87 shipping for my wife’s bike in July ‘22.
IMHO, Riv should make and sell more of them, it’s a fine riding bicycle.

Allan 
Marlboro, Vt

On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 4:52:04 AM UTC-5 nbar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks!!
>
> I’ll reach out, even though it looks a bit pricey for my budget, but maybe 
> they’ll come down on price
>
> Anyone know what Riv sold the frameset for when the Rosco Platypus was 
> released? Since that’s what most Roscos I find tend to be
>
> Best,
> Nathan 
>
> On 21.11.2024, at 01:53, christia...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Nathan,
>
> There's one for sale at the RadBazaar website, although it's a complete. 
> Its been on there for a little while, make an offer. Hope this helps and 
> good luck with your search. 
>
>
> https://radbazaar.theradavist.com/listing/qUW9x2NDj3xZzpHpWPIu?category=undefined&subcategory=undefined
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 2:55:42 PM UTC-5 nbar...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi there
>>
>> I am looking to buy a Size S-M frameset , I am 170cm (5'7").
>>
>> I have lots of 26" stuff so it would be great if the frame was built 
>> around a 26" wheel
>>
>> And looking to buy a Rosco frameset since I can't afford a more expensive 
>> frameset :)
>>
>> I would looove a frameset in Blue , but open to other colors.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> best
>> Nathan 
>>
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