[RBW] FSOT - NItto Boscomoose 540mm Handlebar

[Bruce Byker James]

For Sale: Nitto Boscomoose 540mm - $130 plus shipping (or pick up in 
Philadelphia)


Pictures Here 



Would trade for Brooks B68 saddle


Thanks,


 - Bruce

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wind!

[Garth]

I suspect many people would like the feel of short cranks regardless of the 
bodily measurements. I'm talking about say 140-155mm. Small 5-10mm changes 
are often not even noticed. Aerodymamics comes into play from short cranks 
in that it's less stressful to effectively ride in a low position while 
pedalling. Many racers are now going really low even on the their road 
bike. Regardless of one's abilities, anyone riding into the wind or 
downhill can tell that lowering the torso into the wind is more efficient 
than sitting up with the upper torso catching the wind. As for 
performance/speed gains from the shorter crank alone, that depends on the 
rider and how effectively they can put power down to the pedals more 
efficently. That's what I experience using 150's. I figured eventually some 
successful riders would find them beneficial, then and only then will we 
see the likes of "big bike" start selling them. SRAM has been selling 155's 
for mtb use for a number of years. Maybe now it's the road's turn to go 
down to at least 150mm. If you really think about it a very imited 
selection of cranks for such a vast range of heights and leg lengths. One 
can buy a stem from 0 to 170mm but the majority of cranks are only made 
from 165 to 175. . 

Even @6'2"  I found the 185mm length didn't live up to crank length 
theoretical claims. It was just the opposite. More length didn't equate to 
output efficiency, greater ease in climbing, or anything for that matter. 
Going to 175 or 170 didn't make any notable difference either. That didn't 
happen until I tried some stock retail 152 Sugino XD's. Those ended up 
being break-happy so I went with some Andel and Origin8's in 150. I also 
have a custom cut SRAM triple mtb crank in 150 that I haven't used yet. I 
also pedal more towards the mid-foot than ball. I feel very "planted" to 
the bike. The ability to ride low easier came about after I was riding them 
for a few years and was tiring of riding more upright, I craved going lower 
and back to drop bars. I could never figure how in my 20's and dabbling in 
racing, how anyone could ride without strain and pain in a lower TT 
position. It felt all wrong to me, too much strain in the hips and knees. 
When I started moving my saddle forward with the short cranks I started to 
have "ah-hah!" feelings. I've now moved my saddle forward over 25mm. Now I 
get it, moving closer to the BB, plus shorter cranks it's just less 
straining to pedal. Less strain on the hip and knees, and on a day to day 
basis I feel fresher even after doing many hills the previous day. 

Please note, this setup works for ME. What works for anyone else is up for 
them to experiment with. Short cranks have been around for a long time but 
they take a little strategic and patient searching. It wouldn't take much 
for Riv to offer them as their manufacturer Andel is already manufacturing 
some cranks down to 150mm. But I get it, cycling traditions and myths die 
hard. I read many comments of riders who mock short cranks without ever 
using them. As a kid I used to mock anyone I saw pedalling their bike 
mid-foot .. now I get it. Humble pie,  good ! Aahahahahaha ! 

I've read this : https://biketestreviews.com/cranklength/
It makes sense why long crank lever were not effective for me. Much of it 
is rather techie even, but the benefits of riding short cranks is clearly 
stated throughout. 

I've been riding the rollers all winter with a few random outdoor days when 
it's been in the 50's. Even being in winter/sucking wind kinda shape, I'm 
amazed how efficient pedalling is uphill, the ease of spinning the circle, 
it's very zippy ! 
On Tuesday, February 25, 2025 at 2:11:24 AM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> I switched from 180 to 165 crank arms on my touring bike because of a very 
> low bottom bracket.A bit embarassed to say I can’t feel a difference, and 
> don’t feel like I a fiding any faster, though thats rarely a goal.
>
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 9:14 PM Nick Payne  wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 at 2:37:16 am UTC+11 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>> Several pro riders are moving to much narrower bars for the aero benefits.
>>
>>
>> There is a UCI-imposed limit on how narrow handlebars are allowed to be 
>> for road events (350mm, I think). The other change that some riders are 
>> making / have made is going to shorter cranks. Apart from any biomechanical 
>> advantages, shorter cranks allow a more aero position because the rider's 
>> knees are not coming up as far at the top of the pedal stroke, so the torso 
>> can be lower without reducing the hip angle to the point where power 
>> production suffers. Tadej Pogačar started his racing career on 172.5mm 
>> cranks. A couple of year ago he moved to 170mm, and last year to 165mm, and 
>> his results after the change speak for themselves - last year he entered 27 
>> races and won 24 of them, including two monuments, the Giro, the TdF, 

Re: [RBW] Re: The siren song of Atlantis

[Feliks Ulvåen Isaksen]

Just butting in here to say that I just had a back and forth with the lads 
at Riv regarding sizing. I'm 195 cm with a 96 pbh and really struggled with 
bikes for my whole riding life. I tried to ride on a 60 Hillborne now for a 
while, but this did not work out at all, so I got in touch with Riv for 
some advice on whether to get the current 64 Homer or the 62 Atlantis in 
the upcoming release. The 62 atlantis has a longer reach and steeper 
upslope than the Homer has. Will even said the 62 Atlantis is the biggest 
bike they make, so for my part I will go for the 62 Atlantis when it 
releases. I will certainly show more seatpost, but the most important part 
for me is that I can get that nice upright position without feeling cramped 
or hurting myself, which is what is currently happening on my 60 Hillborne 
(which, in my experience, feels small despite it being "tall")
On Wednesday, 19 February 2025 at 23:02:44 UTC+1 trya...@gmail.com wrote:

> Alfonso,
>
> I am tempted by the Atlantis. Luckily for my bank account I am usually 
> able to talk myself out of buying a given Riv by the time they actually go 
> on presale and once they're sold out it is beyond my control :). 
>
> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 3:35:24 PM UTC-8 der_amerikanische_freund 
> wrote:
>
>> *Tyler*, thanks for your clarification. I'm with you, standover is my 
>> main concern as I plan to ride my Atlantis off road and it's very likely I 
>> will have to dismount or touch the ground occasionally so I'd like to look 
>> after my pubic bone's health! Are you planning on purchasing an Atlantis 
>> this year then?
>>
>> *Garth*, I see your point, it's a very valid one. I don't think Riv 
>> offers custom (re-)painting anymore (I remember asking Will about it some 
>> time ago). If one was to use a third party to repaint their stock model, 
>> would you be able to get decals from Riv?
>>
>> And in order not to go too much off-topic on *Mike in BK*'s original 
>> post, I also agree with Garth that the Atlantis would be overkill for the 
>> kind of intented riding. A Sam Hillborne looks to me like the best option 
>> as you can still load it for light touring and the ocasional weekend 
>> adventure.
>>
>>
>> El martes, 18 de febrero de 2025 a las 21:46:36 UTC, trya...@gmail.com 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> A 55cm Atlantis has a slightly longer top tube and slightly shorter 
>>> standover height compared to a 57cm Hillborne. That means either would work 
>>> size wise except the Atlantis is much stouter and can accommodate much 
>>> larger tires, as can the Appaloosa. 
>>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 11:49:09 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>>
 Frame specs and fitting trumps the paint color every day of the week. 
 The paint and all the parts can be changed, but not the frame itself. Lots 
 of people have opted to get their stock Riv repainted at the time of 
 ordering. In regards to the Atlantis, what it originally was in 1999 is 
 long gone, so any connection to the later version is only the paint. It's 
 been altered so may times I've lost count. I think it's overkill for what 
 Mike in BK stated anyways. The Sam or Roadini sounds like a best option, 
 given it fits you as intended. Have it painted the Russian green/blue of 
 the Atlantis if you like.

 On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 1:35:48 PM UTC-5 karl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
> It depends I was sized at Riv HQ with a 58cm Atlantis but with 26" 
> wheels for sturdy loaded touring. (no clue about my PBH, but 5' 10" with 
> a 
> 29" inseam and a long torso), 
>
> Love the size, but had it been 700 wheels, I would have been put down 
> a size. Now that I getting older, I am looking for a replacement with a 
> Platypus for a step through convenience option.  
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 10:26 AM Tyler Ryan  wrote:
>
>> Alfonso,
>>
>> Yes, I am 6'1" and 89 pbh. I should have been more clear. Upon doing 
>> some more double, triple checking- I do think the 55 Atlantis would be 
>> the 
>> right call. I am mostly concerned with standover height and top tube 
>> length.
>>
>> Tyler
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 9:08:20 AM UTC-8 
>> der_amerikanische_freund wrote:
>>
>>> Tyler, do you mean roughly the same size as me (88 PBH and 6’1) or 
>>> the original poster?
>>>
>>> Double checking the geo chart, at 88 PBH I’d be completely outside 
>>> the size 59 recommended ranges (starting at 89.5cm) so I guess I should 
>>> stop worrying about it.
>>>
>>> However, as investing in a Riv is not small task, one can’t help but 
>>> worry about every detail. My worry then moves to whether an Appaloosa 
>>> 57 
>>> would be an even better fit. Problem being I don’t fancy the 
>>> Appaloosa’s 
>>> colorways too much.
>>>
>>> Would a 57 Appaloosa fit so much better than a 55 Atlantis that it’d 
>>>

[RBW] Re: Frame Schedule for 2025

[Feliks Ulvåen Isaksen]

I'm also interested if anyone knows about Homer updates, especially if 
there will be a 64 this run, and if it will have the rainbow double top tube

On Tuesday, 4 February 2025 at 21:28:26 UTC+1 taylork...@gmail.com wrote:

> Does anyone know if the specs/geometry of the 2025 Homers are identical to 
> the last run or has anything changed?
>
> On Friday, January 31, 2025 at 11:26:47 PM UTC-8 lad...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I think only the first picture on that page (La Chouette) is Sergio 
>> Green. And that shows a Platypus as "colour sample".  
>> All the other pictures show the classical Atlantis colour (Atlantis 
>> greenish blue) in slightly different lighting and white balance. Thuss it 
>> looks like it might show different colours, but it's actually the same.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jakob
>>
>> On Tuesday, 28 January 2025 at 17:09:53 UTC+1 beng...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> La Chouette has some photos of the Sergio Green up on their site now
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.lachouetteparis.com/products/rivendell-atlantis-frame?variant=49850668024155
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 27, 2025 at 1:07:00 PM UTC-5 mfoxb...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Eric and Tyler,

 I wish I had a screenshot to prove it, but I do remember Will stating 
 that there would be a Sergio Green Atlantis in a newsletter many months 
 back, perhaps around the time that the Appaloosas sold out. I tried 
 checking the newsletter archive, but it doesn’t go back far enough. 


 On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 7:19:54 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> If I didn't have a Hillborne I would want the Sage, timing is 
> everything.
>
> On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 6:31:51 PM UTC-5 trya...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> I am hoping it is accurate! A Sergio Green Atlantis would be my ideal 
>> first Riv. I am not sure though, the description for the 2025 Atlantis 
>> goes 
>> on specifically regarding the original color being what makes it unique.
>>
>> Fingers crossed
>>
>> Tyler
>>
>> On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 6:34:23 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps I missed the discussion but I'm surprised to see the 
>>> Atlantis returning in a production color that isn't Atlantis Green!
>>>
>>> I think it's cool they're bringing back the Hillborne sage from some 
>>> of the early runs of that frame!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 7:16:24 PM UTC-5 
>>> aaronr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 hey, the riv homepage under "how do I get one" has a link to this 
 schedule
 [image: RBW_2025_Production_Schedule_1162024.png]

 On Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 4:31:35 PM UTC-7 rcr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Have there been any updates on what bikes are going to coming 
> through in 2025?  I've been following the weekly newsletter but can't 
> recall if there was anything announced.
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: 2025 Philadelphia Bike Expo -- anyone planning on going?

[Justin Kennedy]

Hi Leah, where's/what's the party Fri night? I'll be in town. 

Cheers!

On Tuesday, February 25, 2025 at 4:23:05 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I’ll be at both of those!
>
> There’s a Sat morning ride with Philly bike charity rides at 0800 I’m 
> going to. There’s a party Friday night I MAY attend.
>
> Sunday rides to be determined. There’s one I’d love to do but it will 
> coincide with Pam’s talk and I don’t want to miss that.
>
> On Feb 25, 2025, at 4:07 PM, tio ryan  wrote:
>
> Did some digging and it seems these are the two Pam Murray events that 
> are not to be missed:
>
>
> *Saturday at 6:45pm*
> Party Pace ride to the Bike Party at Keystone Bikes
> Meet at 6:45pm at the Convention Center, roll at 7pm sharp
> (Broad and Cherry Streets entrance, across from the paintbrush)
> Route: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/49582612
>
> *Sunday @ 10:30am*
> How to make your life into one big bike adventure – a workshop
> Seminar room: 124 (Atrium Level)
>
> -tio 
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2025 at 11:00:27 AM UTC-5 claudia Jacobs wrote:
>
>> Thanks for asking that Tio!   I find it hard to keep up with all the 
>> posts and would hate to miss any as well.!
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2025, 10:52 AM tio ryan  wrote:
>>
>>> Getting pretty jazzed about the Expo! I *really* don't want to miss out 
>>> on any Riv rides or presentations. 
>>>
>>> I wonder, does anyone have a comprehensive list of RBW-owners-adjacent, 
>>> or must-see/attend events? 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>> -tio 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 22, 2025 at 12:57:11 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’ve been away from this thread for a bit. It seems there may be more 
 than a few rides not listed on the event website?
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 16, 2025, at 10:26 PM, Robert Blunt  wrote:

 

 Great! Hopefully the weather will be favorable!


 On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 10:23 PM Bob Ehrenbeck  
 wrote:

> Robert / Roberta,
>
> I'd love to join the group on this ride; the towpaths on both sides of 
> the Delaware River are fantastic to ride on.
>
> (And Roberta and John, it's been a while since our last NJ Riv Ride!)
>
> Signed, yet another Robert.
>
> Bob E
> Cranford, NJ
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 2:31:43 PM UTC-5 Robert Blunt wrote:
>
>> Yes. Forgive me. I am a bit geographically challenged. The tow path 
>> is northeast of Philly. And west of me.
>> Best,
>> Rob
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 2:14 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>
> It’s mostly north of Philadelphia. It’s west of where Robert lives. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Philadelphia,+Pennsylvania/Titusville,+Hopewell+Township,+NJ+08560/@40.1362367,-75.2485026,10.1z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c6b7d8d4b54beb:0x89f514d88c3e58c1!2m2!1d-75.1652215!2d39.9525839!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c3fe712e590aab:0xc1fb51b11e85c880!2m2!1d-74.8770282!2d40.309579!3e0?hl=en-us&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDIxMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 1:24:23 PM UTC-5 Richard Rose wrote:
>>>
 Robert, did you mean 30 miles east of Philly vs. “west”?
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 15, 2025, at 10:36 AM, Robert Blunt  
 wrote:

 

 I am seconding Roberta’s suggestion to ride the tow path along the 
 Delaware about thirty miles west of Philly. I am also sort of local, 
 just 
 over the river in New Jersey and ride the tow path most of the time 
 for my 
 riding. I would be happy to lead a ride on Friday if people are coming 
 early. I usually begin at Washington Crossing State Park on the NJ 
 side 
 where there is good parking, head north about six miles to 
 Lambertville, 
 walk my bike over the bridge to New Hope, ride north through town 
 until I 
 pick up the PA side of the trail which is more scenic, ride up to 
 Lumberville, take a left onto the road at the Black Bass Hotel for two 
 hundred yards, and get breakfast at the Lumberville General Store and 
 then 
 cross over the pedestrian bridge there and head back to Washington 
 Crossing 
 on the NJ side of the Delaware. I think it’s about twenty-four miles 
 altogether. If anyone is interested, let me know.
 —Robert Blunt
 Pennington, NJ

 On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 11:57 AM claudia Jacobs <
 claudi...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Wow Roberta, thanks for all of that information!   We're looking 
> forward to making the most of our stay from Friday afternoon to 
> Monday 
> morning!
>
> On Thursday, February 13, 2025 at 11:35:05 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> I’ll be there too and if anyone needs any local help, I’m happy 
>> to assist. 

Re: [RBW] Re: The siren song of Atlantis

[der_amerikanische_freund]

It seems some of us worry about how much seat post is shown. I had an email 
exchange with Will last week regarding this and he pointed out that the old 
fist-full of post thing works on level top tube bikes, but that on six 
degree upsloping bikes it's good to show some seat post so I wouldn't worry 
too much about that. And as we all know it all comes down to PBH and 
standover clearance - you must be comfortable with whatever stand over your 
frame size affords and the type of riding you do. If it's mostly road, 
pavement, etc., you may get away with little or no standover clearance at 
all. On the other hand if you are going to be riding off-road, trails, 
etc., you'll most likely want an inch or two.

Felik, sounds like the 62 Atlantis will be a good fit.
El miércoles, 26 de febrero de 2025 a las 20:25:21 UTC, feliks...@gmail.com 
escribió:

> Just butting in here to say that I just had a back and forth with the lads 
> at Riv regarding sizing. I'm 195 cm with a 96 pbh and really struggled with 
> bikes for my whole riding life. I tried to ride on a 60 Hillborne now for a 
> while, but this did not work out at all, so I got in touch with Riv for 
> some advice on whether to get the current 64 Homer or the 62 Atlantis in 
> the upcoming release. The 62 atlantis has a longer reach and steeper 
> upslope than the Homer has. Will even said the 62 Atlantis is the biggest 
> bike they make, so for my part I will go for the 62 Atlantis when it 
> releases. I will certainly show more seatpost, but the most important part 
> for me is that I can get that nice upright position without feeling cramped 
> or hurting myself, which is what is currently happening on my 60 Hillborne 
> (which, in my experience, feels small despite it being "tall")
> On Wednesday, 19 February 2025 at 23:02:44 UTC+1 trya...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Alfonso,
>>
>> I am tempted by the Atlantis. Luckily for my bank account I am usually 
>> able to talk myself out of buying a given Riv by the time they actually go 
>> on presale and once they're sold out it is beyond my control :). 
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 3:35:24 PM UTC-8 
>> der_amerikanische_freund wrote:
>>
>>> *Tyler*, thanks for your clarification. I'm with you, standover is my 
>>> main concern as I plan to ride my Atlantis off road and it's very likely I 
>>> will have to dismount or touch the ground occasionally so I'd like to look 
>>> after my pubic bone's health! Are you planning on purchasing an Atlantis 
>>> this year then?
>>>
>>> *Garth*, I see your point, it's a very valid one. I don't think Riv 
>>> offers custom (re-)painting anymore (I remember asking Will about it some 
>>> time ago). If one was to use a third party to repaint their stock model, 
>>> would you be able to get decals from Riv?
>>>
>>> And in order not to go too much off-topic on *Mike in BK*'s original 
>>> post, I also agree with Garth that the Atlantis would be overkill for the 
>>> kind of intented riding. A Sam Hillborne looks to me like the best option 
>>> as you can still load it for light touring and the ocasional weekend 
>>> adventure.
>>>
>>>
>>> El martes, 18 de febrero de 2025 a las 21:46:36 UTC, trya...@gmail.com 
>>> escribió:
>>>
 A 55cm Atlantis has a slightly longer top tube and slightly shorter 
 standover height compared to a 57cm Hillborne. That means either would 
 work 
 size wise except the Atlantis is much stouter and can accommodate much 
 larger tires, as can the Appaloosa. 
 On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 11:49:09 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:

> Frame specs and fitting trumps the paint color every day of the week. 
> The paint and all the parts can be changed, but not the frame itself. 
> Lots 
> of people have opted to get their stock Riv repainted at the time of 
> ordering. In regards to the Atlantis, what it originally was in 1999 is 
> long gone, so any connection to the later version is only the paint. It's 
> been altered so may times I've lost count. I think it's overkill for what 
> Mike in BK stated anyways. The Sam or Roadini sounds like a best option, 
> given it fits you as intended. Have it painted the Russian green/blue of 
> the Atlantis if you like.
>
> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 1:35:48 PM UTC-5 karl...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> It depends I was sized at Riv HQ with a 58cm Atlantis but with 
>> 26" wheels for sturdy loaded touring. (no clue about my PBH, but 5' 10" 
>> with a 29" inseam and a long torso), 
>>
>> Love the size, but had it been 700 wheels, I would have been put down 
>> a size. Now that I getting older, I am looking for a replacement with a 
>> Platypus for a step through convenience option.  
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 10:26 AM Tyler Ryan  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Alfonso,
>>>
>>> Yes, I am 6'1" and 89 pbh. I should have been more clear. Upon doing 
>>> some more double, triple check

Re: [RBW] Re: Leah’s Northern Lights Charlie

[Jason Noonievut]

Looks fantastic!On Feb 26, 2025, at 8:39 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:I got to go to Washington DC, and on my last day there, which was yesterday, my favorite mechanic texted, “Charlie H. Gallop, first of his name, is complete.” I came home last night and today made haste to go see Charlie and bring him home to live happily ever after with me. M, my favorite mechanic, is off today. A letdown! But I left him a card that will make him very happy when he gets it; he deserves everything, he is that good. But the other guys were there to chat about the NLC with me, which is half the fun of picking up a new bike.This bike looks little compared to the lengthy Platys that inhabit my garage. Isn’t it cute? It’s the 53, so it has lighter tubing, too. There was not one ray of sunshine today, making most of my color dull. Only the rims catch the light and twinkle at you. I asked the shop to hide the dyno wire and showed them an example. I think I’ll snip their black zip ties and add my gray ones. These are Ultradynamicos Cava Race tires in 38 mm.The galloping horses on the chainstays really do it for me. Here is the RapidRise Grant set me up with. I have no idea if that’s a thing I’ll like; it’s a thing I wanted to try. I don’t know what the fuss really is, except that in the event of a derailleur failure, I’d be in a more pedal-able gear. M said, “RapidRise? Are we going to use it though?” He was not convinced. R from the shop said he gave it a test ride, rode up a ramp was shocked when he went to downshift and ended up in a higher gear.  If I hate it I’ll just swap it for the normal kind.Some of Ashley’s excellent anodizing can be seen on the luscious Silver3 cranks and chainguard. I cannot convey how wonderfully the cranks took color. They drip with NL charm. I chose this Spurcycle bell in a moody black and blue. It fits the disposition of this bike - northern lights are never static. Wondrous, elusive things. Moody.You can see the Silver shifters did not take color well. They had a flaky finish that came off in anodizing and they look like blue metal now.  I heard they frustrated the junior mechanic helping M. “There’s no directions to reassemble these! It’s just a schematic!” he was rumored to have said. There’s a scratch on one of the shifters and I do not at all care because I know they were a bear to reassemble. Mark at Riv had taken them apart for anodizing. Will said he’d mash it if he tried, it’s hard to do. I told the guys we could send them back to Riv but they took on the project themselves. In fact, if these shifters got ruined in this process, I will not be shocked. We’ll see how they perform.Here you a see I did do a little matching. I chose gold housing and a gold headlight. You’ll notice gold valve stems on the wheels.Again, the new Silver3 cranks in the shorter length (165?). The pedals are oil slick (not NL) but I’m getting away with it somehow.The spokes! 😍My bars are showstoppers but they look dark without sun. It’s a nice and muted look in cloudy weather, and will be dreamy in Michigan golden sunshine. They are Chocos, which I bought because I thought they looked sporty on someone else’s bike. 🙄Even the Paul levers had to be pulled apart for anodizing. They always take color well, but again, you’ll have to wait for sun to see.The weather was 30s and sleet today with black ice on the road. One of our surgeons spent a whole day fixing all the broken bones from falls on the ice recently. Test rides will have to wait, but just from handling the bike I can tell it’s light and nimble. It steers easily with one hand guiding it and it looks compact and quick. “Just think if Leah had a road bike,” my club riding friends said. This bike will not be what they meant when they said that. But I love my Minimal Compromise Northern Lights Golden Charlie. (First of his name, you know.) It’s the road bike no one wanted me to have but exactly the one I needed.LeahOn Feb 24, 2025, at 10:12 AM, Doug H.  wrote:That is an amazing audio setup! So cool to see what people can do with their bicycles. I've ridden in bicycle groups and gotten into pretty good shape but could never average 18 or more mph. I think 16 was my max average on a carbon Felt Z6 road bike. I was never dedicated enough to road cycling to really work to improve though so I was satisfied with my slower group. These days I ride solo mostly.DougOn Monday, February 24, 2025 at 10:04:42 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:***Sorry! Noticed the video cut off the rest of my message. Here it is, below: ***Despite the prejudice, I have found that my non-traditional bikes keep up in the road rides I do, and when they (ok I) don’t, I’ll just go down a class. The fastest group I go with advertises 16.5-17mph, led by a couple on a tandem, isn’t that wild? I like that we are moving but not getting to that level where you’re gasping and wishing to be done. My women’s group goes 16, and that’s the sweet spot for chitchat, which I love. There is a group that goes 1

[RBW] Re: WTB/ISO 60cm Platypus

[Danny]

Hey Justin,

Riv just put up some Platypus completes in 55cm and 60cm. Looks like 
there's 1 mermaid 60cm left.

https://www.rivbike.com/products/platypus-complete-bike?variant=41153175289967

-Danny

On Tuesday, January 14, 2025 at 5:36:25 PM UTC-6 bedman@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I'm searching for a 60cm Platypus. I am keen on building up a frameset, 
> but I'm open to complete builds as well. Sergio Green would be my grail. Or 
> the 2021 mermaid. 
>
> If anyone out there wants to downsize, please know I'm interested! I'm 
> located in NYC.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Lotsa Stuff - Silv3r, White Ind, swood, etc.

[Josh Chambers]

No worries Collin. Thanks for the reply. Josh ChambersOn Feb 25, 2025, at 9:58 PM, Collin A  wrote:Folks,Some parts have sold and should be shipped out tomorrow. List updated on the link with a screenshot below:On Monday, February 24, 2025 at 10:06:16 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:Folks,I'm still working through my parts box which has somehow gotten bigger over the past few months. Sadly nothing as colorful as the northern lights, but plenty of silver parts worth of a Riv. Parts listed here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U4cX98QfWB7xYgWv4HKPJ3z-ny_kpEKiMduc2imyTpY/edit?usp=sharingPhotos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/uBi76XPoVCshoKLs6Cheers,Collin in Oaktown



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[RBW] Re: FS: Lotsa Stuff - Silv3r, White Ind, swood, etc.

[Collin A]

I'm also on the hunt for some parts, if folks wanna partake in a trade...or 
just looking to offload some of their stash

XT 9 speed 11-32 cassette (I have an 11-34 that I could trade if interested)
165-ish 110bcd square taper crank
100/130 silver rim brake wheelset, HG freehub
1 Paul mini-moto, ideally silver

Happy Wednesday!
Collin

On Tuesday, February 25, 2025 at 6:58:32 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Some parts have sold and should be shipped out tomorrow. List updated on 
> the link with a screenshot below:
> [image: RBW_sale.jpg]
>
> On Monday, February 24, 2025 at 10:06:16 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm still working through my parts box which has somehow gotten bigger 
>> over the past few months. Sadly nothing as colorful as the northern lights, 
>> but plenty of silver parts worth of a Riv. 
>>
>> Parts listed here: 
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U4cX98QfWB7xYgWv4HKPJ3z-ny_kpEKiMduc2imyTpY/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/uBi76XPoVCshoKLs6
>>
>>
>> [image: RBW_sale.jpg]
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin in Oaktown
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah’s Northern Lights Charlie

[JAS]

There aren't enough superlatives in the dictionary to describe this bike, 
but I'll start with exquisite!  Unsurpassed creativity, certainly.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2025 at 8:17:50 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

>
> The bars and rims are INSANE. I love this bike! 
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2025 at 5:39:12 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I got to go to Washington DC, and on my last day there, which was 
>> yesterday, my favorite mechanic texted, “Charlie H. Gallop, first of his 
>> name, is complete.” 
>>
>> I came home last night and today made haste to go see Charlie and bring 
>> him home to live happily ever after with me. M, my favorite mechanic, is 
>> off today. A letdown! But I left him a card that will make him very happy 
>> when he gets it; he deserves everything, he is that good. But the other 
>> guys were there to chat about the NLC with me, which is half the fun of 
>> picking up a new bike.
>>
>> This bike looks *little* compared to the lengthy Platys that inhabit my 
>> garage. 
>> [image: image2.jpeg]
>> Isn’t it cute? It’s the 53, so it has lighter tubing, too. 
>>
>> There was not one ray of sunshine today, making most of my color dull. 
>> Only the rims catch the light and twinkle at you. 
>>
>> I asked the shop to hide the dyno wire and showed them an example. I 
>> think I’ll snip their black zip ties and add my gray ones. These are 
>> Ultradynamicos Cava Race tires in 38 mm.
>> [image: image3.jpeg][image: image4.jpeg]
>> The galloping horses on the chainstays really do it for me. Here is the 
>> RapidRise Grant set me up with. I have no idea if that’s a thing I’ll like; 
>> it’s a thing I wanted to *try. *I don’t know what the fuss really is, 
>> except that in the event of a derailleur failure, I’d be in a more 
>> pedal-able gear. M said, “RapidRise? Are we going to use it though?” He was 
>> not convinced. R from the shop said he gave it a test ride, rode up a ramp 
>> was shocked when he went to downshift and ended up in a higher gear.  If I 
>> hate it I’ll just swap it for the normal kind.
>>
>> [image: image5.jpeg]
>> Some of Ashley’s excellent anodizing can be seen on the luscious Silver3 
>> cranks and chainguard. I cannot convey how wonderfully the cranks took 
>> color. They drip with NL charm. 
>>
>> I chose this Spurcycle bell in a moody black and blue. It fits the 
>> disposition of this bike - northern lights are never static. Wondrous, 
>> elusive things. Moody.
>> [image: image6.jpeg]
>> You can see the Silver shifters did not take color well. They had a flaky 
>> finish that came off in anodizing and they look like blue metal now.  I 
>> heard they frustrated the junior mechanic helping M. “There’s no directions 
>> to reassemble these! It’s just a schematic!” he was rumored to have said. 
>> There’s a scratch on one of the shifters and I do not at all care because I 
>> know they were a bear to reassemble. Mark at Riv had taken them apart for 
>> anodizing. Will said he’d mash it if he tried, it’s hard to do. I told the 
>> guys we could send them back to Riv but they took on the project 
>> themselves. In fact, if these shifters got ruined in this process, I will 
>> not be shocked. We’ll see how they perform.
>>
>>
>> Here you a see I did do a little matching. I chose gold housing and a 
>> gold headlight. You’ll notice gold valve stems on the wheels.
>> [image: image7.jpeg]
>>
>> Again, the new Silver3 cranks in the shorter length (165?). The pedals 
>> are oil slick (not NL) but I’m getting away with it somehow.
>> [image: image8.jpeg]
>>
>> The spokes! 😍
>> [image: image9.jpeg]
>>
>> My bars are showstoppers but they look dark without sun. It’s a nice and 
>> muted look in cloudy weather, and will be dreamy in Michigan golden 
>> sunshine. They are Chocos, which I bought because I thought they looked 
>> sporty on someone else’s bike. 🙄
>> [image: image10.jpeg]
>>
>> Even the Paul levers had to be pulled apart for anodizing. They always 
>> take color well, but again, you’ll have to wait for sun to see.
>> [image: image11.jpeg]
>>
>> The weather was 30s and sleet today with black ice on the road. One of 
>> our surgeons spent a whole day fixing all the broken bones from falls on 
>> the ice recently. Test rides will have to wait, but just from handling the 
>> bike I can tell it’s light and nimble. It steers easily with one hand 
>> guiding it and it looks compact and quick. 
>>
>> “Just think if Leah had a road bike,” my club riding friends said. This 
>> bike will not be what they meant when they said that. But I love my Minimal 
>> Compromise Northern Lights Golden Charlie. (First of his name, you know.)
>>
>>  It’s the road bike no one wanted me to have but exactly the one I needed.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2025, at 10:12 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>>
>> That is an amazing audio setup! So cool to see what people can do with 
>> their bicycles. 
>>
>>
>> I've ridden in bicycle groups and gotten into pretty good shape but could 
>> never

Re: [RBW] Re: Leah’s Northern Lights Charlie

[Joe Bernard]

The bars and rims are INSANE. I love this bike! 
On Wednesday, February 26, 2025 at 5:39:12 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> I got to go to Washington DC, and on my last day there, which was 
> yesterday, my favorite mechanic texted, “Charlie H. Gallop, first of his 
> name, is complete.” 
>
> I came home last night and today made haste to go see Charlie and bring 
> him home to live happily ever after with me. M, my favorite mechanic, is 
> off today. A letdown! But I left him a card that will make him very happy 
> when he gets it; he deserves everything, he is that good. But the other 
> guys were there to chat about the NLC with me, which is half the fun of 
> picking up a new bike.
>
> This bike looks *little* compared to the lengthy Platys that inhabit my 
> garage. 
> [image: image2.jpeg]
> Isn’t it cute? It’s the 53, so it has lighter tubing, too. 
>
> There was not one ray of sunshine today, making most of my color dull. 
> Only the rims catch the light and twinkle at you. 
>
> I asked the shop to hide the dyno wire and showed them an example. I think 
> I’ll snip their black zip ties and add my gray ones. These are 
> Ultradynamicos Cava Race tires in 38 mm.
> [image: image3.jpeg][image: image4.jpeg]
> The galloping horses on the chainstays really do it for me. Here is the 
> RapidRise Grant set me up with. I have no idea if that’s a thing I’ll like; 
> it’s a thing I wanted to *try. *I don’t know what the fuss really is, 
> except that in the event of a derailleur failure, I’d be in a more 
> pedal-able gear. M said, “RapidRise? Are we going to use it though?” He was 
> not convinced. R from the shop said he gave it a test ride, rode up a ramp 
> was shocked when he went to downshift and ended up in a higher gear.  If I 
> hate it I’ll just swap it for the normal kind.
>
> [image: image5.jpeg]
> Some of Ashley’s excellent anodizing can be seen on the luscious Silver3 
> cranks and chainguard. I cannot convey how wonderfully the cranks took 
> color. They drip with NL charm. 
>
> I chose this Spurcycle bell in a moody black and blue. It fits the 
> disposition of this bike - northern lights are never static. Wondrous, 
> elusive things. Moody.
> [image: image6.jpeg]
> You can see the Silver shifters did not take color well. They had a flaky 
> finish that came off in anodizing and they look like blue metal now.  I 
> heard they frustrated the junior mechanic helping M. “There’s no directions 
> to reassemble these! It’s just a schematic!” he was rumored to have said. 
> There’s a scratch on one of the shifters and I do not at all care because I 
> know they were a bear to reassemble. Mark at Riv had taken them apart for 
> anodizing. Will said he’d mash it if he tried, it’s hard to do. I told the 
> guys we could send them back to Riv but they took on the project 
> themselves. In fact, if these shifters got ruined in this process, I will 
> not be shocked. We’ll see how they perform.
>
>
> Here you a see I did do a little matching. I chose gold housing and a gold 
> headlight. You’ll notice gold valve stems on the wheels.
> [image: image7.jpeg]
>
> Again, the new Silver3 cranks in the shorter length (165?). The pedals are 
> oil slick (not NL) but I’m getting away with it somehow.
> [image: image8.jpeg]
>
> The spokes! 😍
> [image: image9.jpeg]
>
> My bars are showstoppers but they look dark without sun. It’s a nice and 
> muted look in cloudy weather, and will be dreamy in Michigan golden 
> sunshine. They are Chocos, which I bought because I thought they looked 
> sporty on someone else’s bike. 🙄
> [image: image10.jpeg]
>
> Even the Paul levers had to be pulled apart for anodizing. They always 
> take color well, but again, you’ll have to wait for sun to see.
> [image: image11.jpeg]
>
> The weather was 30s and sleet today with black ice on the road. One of our 
> surgeons spent a whole day fixing all the broken bones from falls on the 
> ice recently. Test rides will have to wait, but just from handling the bike 
> I can tell it’s light and nimble. It steers easily with one hand guiding it 
> and it looks compact and quick. 
>
> “Just think if Leah had a road bike,” my club riding friends said. This 
> bike will not be what they meant when they said that. But I love my Minimal 
> Compromise Northern Lights Golden Charlie. (First of his name, you know.)
>
>  It’s the road bike no one wanted me to have but exactly the one I needed.
>
> Leah
>
> On Feb 24, 2025, at 10:12 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>
> That is an amazing audio setup! So cool to see what people can do with 
> their bicycles. 
>
>
> I've ridden in bicycle groups and gotten into pretty good shape but could 
> never average 18 or more mph. I think 16 was my max average on a carbon 
> Felt Z6 road bike. I was never dedicated enough to road cycling to really 
> work to improve though so I was satisfied with my slower group. These days 
> I ride solo mostly.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, February 24, 2025 at 10:04:42 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle