Re: [RBW] Re: Tics in the bars at the stem clamp - help

[Joe Bernard]

We're bordering here on losing track of the information provided. The very 
tall stem slammed into the butted section of the headtube is a one-off 
temporary swap onto Leah's Raspberry Platy, she was not previously running 
stems dropped that low on any of her bikes. Not the cause of the tic-ing. 

Joe Bernard 

On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 7:58:29 AM UTC-7 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
NJ wrote:

> Leah
>
> Good recap.   I would RAISE the stem 20mm to 30mm to ensure it is NOT 
> contacting the butted section of the steerer tube.  Your ticing seem to 
> occur with 'slammed' stems and the stem wedge in the butted section may be 
> the cause of the ticing 
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 8:17:28 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Alright.
>>
>> Let’s recap. 
>>
>> Leah hears tics in the bars. Sounds like bar/stem interface. Lubes around 
>> the sleeve, in the interface, re-lubes the stem inside the steerer. Goes on 
>> ride, tics come back. Bike shop tries, doesn’t find source but tightens 
>> loose headset, sends bike home with me. Tics come back. I decide to change 
>> one thing at a time to get to the source. I pull Tallux stem, put in 
>> Technomic extra-tall 280 mm stem. Seems quiet. BUT, the stem is slammed, 
>> and the wedge is hitting into the steerer tube. I find out this is A Bad 
>> Thing, and I order a Nitto Faceplater stem, a 135/225. Will gets word from 
>> Nitto that we should NOT use lube in/around the sleeve. We should put Krazy 
>> Glue in that channel in the sleeve of the bar.
>>
>> Today, I take bike and new stem too the dreamy mechanic at the shop. He 
>> reevaluates headset and it looks great. He tries to pull the Technomic 
>> and…it is STUCK. He gets it out, puts adhesive in sleeve, gets stem and bar 
>> set up and now I have the bike.
>>
>> I have learned a few things here, and the most valuable is that you can’t 
>> just have stems whatever willy nilly way you want. Too high and you can 
>> deform stuff because the wedge isn’t far enough in the head tube. Too low 
>> and your wedge can’t get purchase on the narrowing steel walls. Too low can 
>> also get you stuck. 
>>
>> I work the next couple of days but am hoping to get some miles in and 
>> listen for tics. I don’t know if I like the new Faceplater stem yet. The 
>> angle is new, the height is more than I anticipated. The 90-190 is out of 
>> stock but that might be the winner for this bike. I am back in the 
>> hand-wringing and angstiness. Because when I change something major on my 
>> bike it’s a small crisis. “It won’t be the saaae” and other such 
>> whininess. 
>>
>> But to keep me from totally despairing over THAT bike, I decided to mar 
>> the beauty of the purple Platypus. Please enjoy this lovely fall photo, 
>> where I had lifted my Platypus up onto the curb, next to this brilliant 
>> orange oak:
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> And you know what happened next.
>> [image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg]
>>
>> Don’t worry, those are just custom anodized Paul levers and Spank Oozy 
>> pedals. 😱
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who has been trying to hard to help this hopeless 
>> case, which is me. I am learning a lot here. I am also learning that I am 
>> dangerous to my bikes…but I keep trying.
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2024, at 6:07 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I forgot to add that I’ve successfully cut stem quills with a cheap 
>> electric jigsaw and, indeed, with a plain hacksaw, fine-tuning the angle of 
>> the clamp shoulder with a coarse file.
>>
>> 30 years ago Salsa used to make custom quill stems for affordable prices; 
>> I ordered at least 2. Can moderately priced custom quill stems still be 
>> found?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 4:00 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> … I realize that this is easier to do with a clamp-on stem than with a 
>>> quill stem, since clamp-ons are reversable top/bottom.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 126 mm JIS taper SKF bb assembly for 68 mm English bottom bracket; or equally good substitute

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Nick and Garth. In fact, I learned that RH hopes to restock the SKF
in 126 within a month or so, so I will hold out for that period.

Question: The SKF bb has cups with integral shoulders. I take it that this
means that if you want to offset the spindle a couple of mm to the right (I
think that the SKF is symmetrical) I will need 2 mm of spacers on the drive
side?

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:45 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> RH is out and so are the other vendors I checked.
>
> Does anyone know a source?
>
> Again, SKF, 126 mm, JIS.
>
> If anyone has one to sell, I’m very interested.
>
> If I can’t find one I’ll probably ask Phil to mail me a 126 mm spindle but
> I do want an SKF. At least 1 Phil out of a score has gone bad too quickly,
> and I don’t get more than 15K miles out of my other Phils, so I would
> prefer to try an SKF.
>
> “Nother question: Is there another bb bearing assembly in 126 mm JIS that
> is anywhere near as good as SKFs are reputed to be? — Someone recently
> reported putting 20K miles on an SKF without any problems and it’s still
> going strong. That’s what I want.
>
> 126 JIS = perfect; 127 mm works; 125 mm might work if laterally adjustable.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting a Ron's Fabio's Chest on my Homer

[Jay Lonner]

I have both a Rod Steward and a homebrew Pec Deck. I slightly prefer the Pec Deck — it plays a little nicer with my Tubus Tara low-rider front rack. Having said that, I think I’m going to replace the whole shebang with a Pass and Stow 3-rail rack and Bags by Bird Right Height custom handlebar bag.Jay LonnerBellingham, WASent from my Atari 400On Oct 15, 2024, at 5:33 PM, Ty Graham  wrote:Here’s a very non optimized setup using the fabs abs from ronsbikes modified with xl nitto rack struts from Rivendell. The xl struts give a lot of wiggle room to eventually get the fit you want. (Not a riv, but you get the idea)TyGSeattle



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Re: [RBW] Question for Nitto 33R (Big Back Rack, Large) havers

[Bob]

The 32R would not leave me enough room for a fender, or rather, I think the 
fender would fit but would require some means of attachment to the rack to 
avoid rattling against it. Neither the 33R nor the 32R has such a 
downward-facing boss, and even if they did I wouldn't care for the whole 
drilling and attaching process.

On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 5:55:29 AM UTC-6 feliks...@gmail.com wrote:

> I tried the medium big bag rack on my 60 cm Sam Hillborne. It cleared the 
> wheels, but not by a lot. I tried mounting them with fenders on and that 
> was a no go. I suspect it might be fine depending on the frame geo and 
> size, but if you have a 60cm Sam, I would avoid it.
>
> On Tuesday 15 October 2024 at 03:16:25 UTC+2 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> I have wondered if the Nitto 32r might mitigate this problem with that 
>> little loop it has at the bottom.
>>
>> Anyone ever tried a 32r on "larger" sized frames? 
>> Seems like it would just sit a little lower in profile. (closer to the 
>> wheel)
>>
>> Also curious about these racks,
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 7:43:42 AM UTC-7 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Patrick. I too had forgotten that those little Banjo Bros hooks 
>>> exist.
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>> On Monday, October 7, 2024 at 5:31:43 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 As I was just reminded myself recently, Banjo Brothers makes a little 
 steel hook that you can bolt on using the dropout bosses.


 https://banjobrothers.com/products/banjo-brothers-dropout-pannier-hooks-4-pack



 On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 10:54 AM Bob  wrote:

> Who here regularly uses the Nitto 33R (i.e. RBW's Big Back Rack, 
> Large) to carry panniers? How do you ensure retention of the hook at the 
> bottom of the rack? (By "hook" here I mean the single hook on a bungee or 
> similar elastic cord that prevents the pannier from bouncing up and off 
> the 
> rack rails. Swift panniers have them, as do Arkel; Ortlieb and Carradice 
> have a different lower attachment.)
>
> I'm pretty sure older versions of the rack had a loop at the bottom 
> where one could secure the pannier's hook, and the current 32R (Big Back 
> Rack, Medium) still has such a loop.
>
> Thank you.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tics in the bars at the stem clamp - help

[Doug H.]

Those are just new "features" on your beautiful Paul levers and Spank 
pedals. Now they really are one of a kind!  
Doug
Sarcastic in Athens Ga

On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 10:58:29 AM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
NJ wrote:

> Leah
>
> Good recap.   I would RAISE the stem 20mm to 30mm to ensure it is NOT 
> contacting the butted section of the steerer tube.  Your ticing seem to 
> occur with 'slammed' stems and the stem wedge in the butted section may be 
> the cause of the ticing 
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 8:17:28 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Alright.
>>
>> Let’s recap. 
>>
>> Leah hears tics in the bars. Sounds like bar/stem interface. Lubes around 
>> the sleeve, in the interface, re-lubes the stem inside the steerer. Goes on 
>> ride, tics come back. Bike shop tries, doesn’t find source but tightens 
>> loose headset, sends bike home with me. Tics come back. I decide to change 
>> one thing at a time to get to the source. I pull Tallux stem, put in 
>> Technomic extra-tall 280 mm stem. Seems quiet. BUT, the stem is slammed, 
>> and the wedge is hitting into the steerer tube. I find out this is A Bad 
>> Thing, and I order a Nitto Faceplater stem, a 135/225. Will gets word from 
>> Nitto that we should NOT use lube in/around the sleeve. We should put Krazy 
>> Glue in that channel in the sleeve of the bar.
>>
>> Today, I take bike and new stem too the dreamy mechanic at the shop. He 
>> reevaluates headset and it looks great. He tries to pull the Technomic 
>> and…it is STUCK. He gets it out, puts adhesive in sleeve, gets stem and bar 
>> set up and now I have the bike.
>>
>> I have learned a few things here, and the most valuable is that you can’t 
>> just have stems whatever willy nilly way you want. Too high and you can 
>> deform stuff because the wedge isn’t far enough in the head tube. Too low 
>> and your wedge can’t get purchase on the narrowing steel walls. Too low can 
>> also get you stuck. 
>>
>> I work the next couple of days but am hoping to get some miles in and 
>> listen for tics. I don’t know if I like the new Faceplater stem yet. The 
>> angle is new, the height is more than I anticipated. The 90-190 is out of 
>> stock but that might be the winner for this bike. I am back in the 
>> hand-wringing and angstiness. Because when I change something major on my 
>> bike it’s a small crisis. “It won’t be the saaae” and other such 
>> whininess. 
>>
>> But to keep me from totally despairing over THAT bike, I decided to mar 
>> the beauty of the purple Platypus. Please enjoy this lovely fall photo, 
>> where I had lifted my Platypus up onto the curb, next to this brilliant 
>> orange oak:
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> And you know what happened next.
>> [image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg]
>>
>> Don’t worry, those are just custom anodized Paul levers and Spank Oozy 
>> pedals. 😱
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who has been trying to hard to help this hopeless 
>> case, which is me. I am learning a lot here. I am also learning that I am 
>> dangerous to my bikes…but I keep trying.
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2024, at 6:07 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I forgot to add that I’ve successfully cut stem quills with a cheap 
>> electric jigsaw and, indeed, with a plain hacksaw, fine-tuning the angle of 
>> the clamp shoulder with a coarse file.
>>
>> 30 years ago Salsa used to make custom quill stems for affordable prices; 
>> I ordered at least 2. Can moderately priced custom quill stems still be 
>> found?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 4:00 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> … I realize that this is easier to do with a clamp-on stem than with a 
>>> quill stem, since clamp-ons are reversable top/bottom.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tics in the bars at the stem clamp - help

[Johnny Alien]

That 90 degree stem RIvendell sells is very nice.

On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 11:09:10 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> Those are just new "features" on your beautiful Paul levers and Spank 
> pedals. Now they really are one of a kind!  
> Doug
> Sarcastic in Athens Ga
>
> On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 10:58:29 AM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
> NJ wrote:
>
>> Leah
>>
>> Good recap.   I would RAISE the stem 20mm to 30mm to ensure it is NOT 
>> contacting the butted section of the steerer tube.  Your ticing seem to 
>> occur with 'slammed' stems and the stem wedge in the butted section may be 
>> the cause of the ticing 
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 8:17:28 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Alright.
>>>
>>> Let’s recap. 
>>>
>>> Leah hears tics in the bars. Sounds like bar/stem interface. Lubes 
>>> around the sleeve, in the interface, re-lubes the stem inside the steerer. 
>>> Goes on ride, tics come back. Bike shop tries, doesn’t find source but 
>>> tightens loose headset, sends bike home with me. Tics come back. I decide 
>>> to change one thing at a time to get to the source. I pull Tallux stem, put 
>>> in Technomic extra-tall 280 mm stem. Seems quiet. BUT, the stem is slammed, 
>>> and the wedge is hitting into the steerer tube. I find out this is A Bad 
>>> Thing, and I order a Nitto Faceplater stem, a 135/225. Will gets word from 
>>> Nitto that we should NOT use lube in/around the sleeve. We should put Krazy 
>>> Glue in that channel in the sleeve of the bar.
>>>
>>> Today, I take bike and new stem too the dreamy mechanic at the shop. He 
>>> reevaluates headset and it looks great. He tries to pull the Technomic 
>>> and…it is STUCK. He gets it out, puts adhesive in sleeve, gets stem and bar 
>>> set up and now I have the bike.
>>>
>>> I have learned a few things here, and the most valuable is that you 
>>> can’t just have stems whatever willy nilly way you want. Too high and you 
>>> can deform stuff because the wedge isn’t far enough in the head tube. Too 
>>> low and your wedge can’t get purchase on the narrowing steel walls. Too low 
>>> can also get you stuck. 
>>>
>>> I work the next couple of days but am hoping to get some miles in and 
>>> listen for tics. I don’t know if I like the new Faceplater stem yet. The 
>>> angle is new, the height is more than I anticipated. The 90-190 is out of 
>>> stock but that might be the winner for this bike. I am back in the 
>>> hand-wringing and angstiness. Because when I change something major on my 
>>> bike it’s a small crisis. “It won’t be the saaae” and other such 
>>> whininess. 
>>>
>>> But to keep me from totally despairing over THAT bike, I decided to mar 
>>> the beauty of the purple Platypus. Please enjoy this lovely fall photo, 
>>> where I had lifted my Platypus up onto the curb, next to this brilliant 
>>> orange oak:
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> And you know what happened next.
>>> [image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Don’t worry, those are just custom anodized Paul levers and Spank Oozy 
>>> pedals. 😱
>>>
>>> Thank you to everyone who has been trying to hard to help this hopeless 
>>> case, which is me. I am learning a lot here. I am also learning that I am 
>>> dangerous to my bikes…but I keep trying.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 10, 2024, at 6:07 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I forgot to add that I’ve successfully cut stem quills with a cheap 
>>> electric jigsaw and, indeed, with a plain hacksaw, fine-tuning the angle of 
>>> the clamp shoulder with a coarse file.
>>>
>>> 30 years ago Salsa used to make custom quill stems for affordable 
>>> prices; I ordered at least 2. Can moderately priced custom quill stems 
>>> still be found?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 4:00 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 … I realize that this is easier to do with a clamp-on stem than with a 
 quill stem, since clamp-ons are reversable top/bottom.

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[RBW] Re: 126 mm JIS taper SKF bb assembly for 68 mm English bottom bracket; or equally good substitute

[Garth]

FWIW, The only cartridge BB I has fail was a Tange LN-3922, made in Japan. 
So much for origins ..  Meanwhile the Shimano UN series just keeps on 
spinning and I can't say how many miles. But for the $15 I paid for them, 
that buys many of them in contrast to a high falootin' bottom bracket, 
which guarantee you nothing in durability terms. Phil bearings on their 
BB's can be user replaced though can't they ? Despite what they may claim. 
Also, where the bearings or races really corrupt, or did they simply need 
some cleaning and grease, popping off the seals yourself ? 

Any bearing assembly is a crap shoot. I'm still running the orignal bearing 
on a Specialized cartridge bearing hub from the mid 80's. I cleaned 
repacked it once. It's a superior design to purely exposed cartridges as it 
also has a metal shield over the bearings. But I know, we're talking BB's 
here. 

In summary, my premise is the inexpensive Shimano BB's get terrific mileage 
for the price. This was with the UN54/55/70 series, I can't speak to he 
newer 300 series.  No, one doesn'gt always get what one pays for ans 
everyone knows it. One "payz what theyz pays, so to speak, no guaranteez". 



On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 12:52:47 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:

> IRD Defiant QB95 JIS comes in 127.5mm length: 
> https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/ird-qb-95-bottom-bracket-4057.
>
> Nick
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[RBW] ISO 170mm crankset

[Igor]

I am going to build up a Romulus and looking for a crankset for it. 170mm, 
silver. Sugino XD2 would be fine, or something sleeker/lighter would be 
great too. Anyone have something? I'd like 50/34 or lower gearing

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Re: [RBW] Question for Nitto 33R (Big Back Rack, Large) havers

[Feliks Ulvåen Isaksen]

I tried the medium big bag rack on my 60 cm Sam Hillborne. It cleared the 
wheels, but not by a lot. I tried mounting them with fenders on and that 
was a no go. I suspect it might be fine depending on the frame geo and 
size, but if you have a 60cm Sam, I would avoid it.

On Tuesday 15 October 2024 at 03:16:25 UTC+2 Keith P. wrote:

> I have wondered if the Nitto 32r might mitigate this problem with that 
> little loop it has at the bottom.
>
> Anyone ever tried a 32r on "larger" sized frames? 
> Seems like it would just sit a little lower in profile. (closer to the 
> wheel)
>
> Also curious about these racks,
> Keith
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 8, 2024 at 7:43:42 AM UTC-7 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Patrick. I too had forgotten that those little Banjo Bros hooks 
>> exist.
>>
>> --
>> Bob
>>
>> On Monday, October 7, 2024 at 5:31:43 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> As I was just reminded myself recently, Banjo Brothers makes a little 
>>> steel hook that you can bolt on using the dropout bosses.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://banjobrothers.com/products/banjo-brothers-dropout-pannier-hooks-4-pack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 10:54 AM Bob  wrote:
>>>
 Who here regularly uses the Nitto 33R (i.e. RBW's Big Back Rack, Large) 
 to carry panniers? How do you ensure retention of the hook at the bottom 
 of 
 the rack? (By "hook" here I mean the single hook on a bungee or similar 
 elastic cord that prevents the pannier from bouncing up and off the rack 
 rails. Swift panniers have them, as do Arkel; Ortlieb and Carradice have a 
 different lower attachment.)

 I'm pretty sure older versions of the rack had a loop at the bottom 
 where one could secure the pannier's hook, and the current 32R (Big Back 
 Rack, Medium) still has such a loop.

 Thank you.

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Re: [RBW] Fall Photos 2024

[John Bokman]

Nothing wrong about that Raleigh Jason! Thanks for posting.

John

On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 8:55:11 AM UTC-10 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Pardon the non-Riv bicycle (again), but I happened upon this beautiful 
> autumn scene on my errands yesterday aboard the Raleigh Twenty. 
>
> [image: PXL_20241014_235439626.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday 15 October 2024 at 06:45:26 UTC-7 Nicholas A wrote:
>
>> Very fallish and foliagey in the Dublin mountains. So fall-y I fell over 
>> about ten minutes after this.
>>
>> [image: IMG_0260.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday 14 October 2024 at 04:03:32 UTC+1 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_4325mmm.JPG]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 7:55:25 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 Yesterday, I went to the Willapa Hills Trailhead at Pe Ell in 
 Washington state for a group ride to Frances and back, a mileage of 28 
 miles. 


 https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1SGnPkL65IFKWt58_zLHju-XIOzM&ll=46.63007414121186%2C-123.17802413867184&z=14[image:
  
 20241012_130322.jpg]

 First off, I want to tell you that my camera, a Canon PowerShot SX710 
 HS did not pick up very well all the fall colors as I had anticipated,  
 unfortunately. The few pictures I took from my cellphone were a lot better 
 color wise.

 I left my house at 8:15 am yesterday. When I got to the small town of 
 Rainier, I realized that I forgot my shoes that I ride with. Therefore, I 
 had to turn around and go back home and get them. This set me back in my 
 travel to Pe Ell in meeting the slower group of cyclists at 10:00 am. Oh 
 well.

 Upon arriving at the Pe Ell trailhead, I met once again a man by the 
 name of Steve, who I had sold some bicycle parts from the IBOB Google 
 Group. He said that he was watching out for me to arrive here. He was late 
 to the party as well living far away from the WHT. He was all smiles and 
 happy to ride his bike with me.  

 We rode together for quite a while, perhaps three miles or so. Then he 
 departed and went ahead to Frances. I slowed him down frequently with 
 intermittently stopping and taking pictures of the scenery, for I had not 
 been there before. He started at Adna, 23 miles east of where we were. He 
 was on a time schedule per say, of which I understood.

 Those tree tunnels along the WHT and Chehalis river were amazing !  I 
 loved them.

 After Steve left, I kept riding west. After a while, I started to feel 
 tired. I stopped three or four times to rest. Occasionally, cyclists 
 riding 
 back from Frances would pass me going east. I took pictures of their 
 approach. The last group I saw, Chris Brewer, the trail host and promoter 
 passed me and said, "Beautiful day !". I replied, "Amen!"

 I was somewhat sad that I did not make it to Pluvius. (The highest 
 point between Chehalis and South Bend at the crest of a divide southeast 
 of 
 South Bend in east central Pacific County is called Pluvius. W. C. Albee, 
 when superintendent of South Bend branch of Northern Pacific Railway, 
 devised the name because of the heavy rainfall in the region. The name is 
 an alteration of the Latin word Pluviosus which has the significance of 
 heavy rains or precipitation. The writers of the Railroad List noted that 
 the name was given “…due to the fact that it rained incessantly during the 
 construction of the line.”)  It was best to listen to my body than not to 
 turn around.

 I do not know specifically how many miles I rode yesterday. I am 
 guessing about 10 miles out and back. ... 20 miles total ?  There were no 
 crossroads to take notice of to remember where I turned around.  I do know 
 this I could tell physically that pushed myself to my physical limit when 
 I 
 got home. My legs were physically sore and walked like an old duck bent 
 over trying to straighten up.  All in all, I had a good ride.

 Oh !... Those SimWorks Homage 27.5x55mm (actually they measure 50mm) 
 new tires I bought; they came the day before I the WHT ride. I am very 
 happy that they did. They worked very well and were very comfortable to 
 ride on; quite plush. There were areas of gravel that were thick. I love 
 these tires. I wish I had a second pair of wheels to change out when 
 needed, maybe in the near future.

 I will be back next spring to pick up where I left off riding west.

 Kim Hetzel.








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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: 126 mm JIS taper SKF bb assembly for 68 mm English bottom bracket; or equally good substitute

[Harry Travis]

Less than $100, delivered.NOS SKF Thun sealed square taper cartridge Bottom Bracket 127 mm, english threadebay.com--Harry P Travis17.7On Oct 15, 2024, at 9:11 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:Thanks, Nick and Garth. In fact, I learned that RH hopes to restock the SKF in 126 within a month or so, so I will hold out for that period.Question: The SKF bb has cups with integral shoulders. I take it that this means that if you want to offset the spindle a couple of mm to the right (I think that the SKF is symmetrical) I will need 2 mm of spacers on the drive side?On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:45 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:RH is out and so are the other vendors I checked.Does anyone know a source?Again, SKF, 126 mm, JIS.If anyone has one to sell, I’m very interested.If I can’t find one I’ll probably ask Phil to mail me a 126 mm spindle but I do want an SKF. At least 1 Phil out of a score has gone bad too quickly, and I don’t get more than 15K miles out of my other Phils, so I would prefer to try an SKF.“Nother question: Is there another bb bearing assembly in 126 mm JIS that is anywhere near as good as SKFs are reputed to be? — Someone recently reported putting 20K miles on an SKF without any problems and it’s still going strong. That’s what I want. 126 JIS = perfect; 127 mm works; 125 mm might work if laterally adjustable.Thanks.-- Patrick MooreAlburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum---Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services---When thou didst not, savage, know thine own meaning,But wouldst gabble like a thing most brutish,I endowed thy purposes with words that made them known.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tics in the bars at the stem clamp - help

['John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Leah

Good recap.   I would RAISE the stem 20mm to 30mm to ensure it is NOT 
contacting the butted section of the steerer tube.  Your ticing seem to 
occur with 'slammed' stems and the stem wedge in the butted section may be 
the cause of the ticing 

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 8:17:28 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Alright.
>
> Let’s recap. 
>
> Leah hears tics in the bars. Sounds like bar/stem interface. Lubes around 
> the sleeve, in the interface, re-lubes the stem inside the steerer. Goes on 
> ride, tics come back. Bike shop tries, doesn’t find source but tightens 
> loose headset, sends bike home with me. Tics come back. I decide to change 
> one thing at a time to get to the source. I pull Tallux stem, put in 
> Technomic extra-tall 280 mm stem. Seems quiet. BUT, the stem is slammed, 
> and the wedge is hitting into the steerer tube. I find out this is A Bad 
> Thing, and I order a Nitto Faceplater stem, a 135/225. Will gets word from 
> Nitto that we should NOT use lube in/around the sleeve. We should put Krazy 
> Glue in that channel in the sleeve of the bar.
>
> Today, I take bike and new stem too the dreamy mechanic at the shop. He 
> reevaluates headset and it looks great. He tries to pull the Technomic 
> and…it is STUCK. He gets it out, puts adhesive in sleeve, gets stem and bar 
> set up and now I have the bike.
>
> I have learned a few things here, and the most valuable is that you can’t 
> just have stems whatever willy nilly way you want. Too high and you can 
> deform stuff because the wedge isn’t far enough in the head tube. Too low 
> and your wedge can’t get purchase on the narrowing steel walls. Too low can 
> also get you stuck. 
>
> I work the next couple of days but am hoping to get some miles in and 
> listen for tics. I don’t know if I like the new Faceplater stem yet. The 
> angle is new, the height is more than I anticipated. The 90-190 is out of 
> stock but that might be the winner for this bike. I am back in the 
> hand-wringing and angstiness. Because when I change something major on my 
> bike it’s a small crisis. “It won’t be the saaae” and other such 
> whininess. 
>
> But to keep me from totally despairing over THAT bike, I decided to mar 
> the beauty of the purple Platypus. Please enjoy this lovely fall photo, 
> where I had lifted my Platypus up onto the curb, next to this brilliant 
> orange oak:
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> And you know what happened next.
> [image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg]
>
> Don’t worry, those are just custom anodized Paul levers and Spank Oozy 
> pedals. 😱
>
> Thank you to everyone who has been trying to hard to help this hopeless 
> case, which is me. I am learning a lot here. I am also learning that I am 
> dangerous to my bikes…but I keep trying.
> Leah
>
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2024, at 6:07 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I forgot to add that I’ve successfully cut stem quills with a cheap 
> electric jigsaw and, indeed, with a plain hacksaw, fine-tuning the angle of 
> the clamp shoulder with a coarse file.
>
> 30 years ago Salsa used to make custom quill stems for affordable prices; 
> I ordered at least 2. Can moderately priced custom quill stems still be 
> found?
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 4:00 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> … I realize that this is easier to do with a clamp-on stem than with a 
>> quill stem, since clamp-ons are reversable top/bottom.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Fall Photos 2024

[John Rinker]

Hey Paul,

Looks like a fine trip indeed! The photos in your flicker album are 
beautiful. I am especially interested in that gorgeous covered bridge.

Cheers, John

On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 6:55:13 PM UTC-7 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Eight of us (four riding Rivendells) traveled from Virginia and Maryland 
> to Pa. to enjoy the D&L (Delaware & Lehigh Rivers) Canal Trail system over 
> four beautiful autumn days. Temps dropped to 34 degrees the first night of 
> camping, but we were prepared, despite 42 degrees being predicted. Good 
> practice for winter bikepacking. We hired a shuttle to take us from 
> Bristol. Pa. up to near White Haven, Pa. for the 156 miles we traveled 
> back. So much history in this neighborhood, including Washington Crossing, 
> Pa. This is my Sam at Buttermilk Falls above the Lehigh Gorge State Park. 
> My full trip album is on Flickr: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720321172192/
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>   [image: IMG_9697.jpeg]
>
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[RBW] Re: Bump: WTB: Riv/Sugino XD2 Wide/Low 170mm

[Eric Karnes]

Thanks! I'll take a look. And if I can't find an 'original', I'm also open 
to the New Albion/Clipper version that Riv currently has for sale.

On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 10:45:54 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> Have you considered Spa Cycle's clone of the XD2. Unbeatable value. They 
> also carry Stronglight cranks and have some deals on at the moment.
>
> https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m8b0s109p2000/SPA-CYCLES-XD-2-Touring-Triple-Chainset
>
> Shipping from the UK is a little costly but it's an opportunity to stock 
> up on square taper bottom brackets etc.
>
> IanA Kitimat BC
>
> On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 6:33:26 PM UTC-7 Eric Karnes wrote:
>
>> Is it ok to bump a WTB? Hopefully? Still on the lookout for an XD2 
>> Wide/Low. I'm also open if you have 170mm XD2 crank arms. I can always 
>> source the rings and guard separately. Thanks!
>>
>> On Friday, October 11, 2024 at 12:25:17 AM UTC-4 Eric Karnes wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all... 
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking to find a classic Riv/Sugino XD2 Wide/Low crankset (in 170mm) 
>>> for the rebuild of my beloved SimpleOne. If you have one that you’re 
>>> looking to part with, shoot me a message. Thanks! 
>>>
>>>
>>> -Eric
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting a Ron's Fabio's Chest on my Homer

[Donzaemon]

Thanks for all the replies everyone! Looks like a DIY pec dec or Rod 
Steward’s the best (and probably only) solution.

On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 10:46:52 AM UTC-7 J wrote:

> Bag is empty here but it still makes the point. There's 11.5 inches from 
> the base of the only front rack I have left, (Nitto 32f Campee? I think) to 
> the bottom of the handlebars.
>
> [image: DSCF3085.JPG]
>
> On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 10:40:44 AM UTC-4 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> I have both a Rod Steward and a homebrew Pec Deck. I slightly prefer the 
>> Pec Deck — it plays a little nicer with my Tubus Tara low-rider front rack. 
>> Having said that, I think I’m going to replace the whole shebang with a 
>> Pass and Stow 3-rail rack and Bags by Bird Right Height custom handlebar 
>> bag.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2024, at 5:33 PM, Ty Graham  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Here’s a very non optimized setup using the fabs abs from ronsbikes 
>> modified with xl nitto rack struts from Rivendell. 
>> The xl struts give a lot of wiggle room to eventually get the fit you 
>> want. 
>> (Not a riv, but you get the idea)
>>
>> TyG
>> Seattle
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[RBW] Bump: WTB: Riv/Sugino XD2 Wide/Low 170mm

[Eric Karnes]

Is it ok to bump a WTB? Hopefully? Still on the lookout for an XD2 
Wide/Low. I'm also open if you have 170mm XD2 crank arms. I can always 
source the rings and guard separately. Thanks!

On Friday, October 11, 2024 at 12:25:17 AM UTC-4 Eric Karnes wrote:

> Hi all... 
>
>
> Looking to find a classic Riv/Sugino XD2 Wide/Low crankset (in 170mm) for 
> the rebuild of my beloved SimpleOne. If you have one that you’re looking to 
> part with, shoot me a message. Thanks! 
>
>
> -Eric
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[RBW] Re: Bump: WTB: Riv/Sugino XD2 Wide/Low 170mm

[Ian A]

Have you considered Spa Cycle's clone of the XD2. Unbeatable value. They 
also carry Stronglight cranks and have some deals on at the moment.
https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m8b0s109p2000/SPA-CYCLES-XD-2-Touring-Triple-Chainset

Shipping from the UK is a little costly but it's an opportunity to stock up 
on square taper bottom brackets etc.

IanA Kitimat BC

On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 6:33:26 PM UTC-7 Eric Karnes wrote:

> Is it ok to bump a WTB? Hopefully? Still on the lookout for an XD2 
> Wide/Low. I'm also open if you have 170mm XD2 crank arms. I can always 
> source the rings and guard separately. Thanks!
>
> On Friday, October 11, 2024 at 12:25:17 AM UTC-4 Eric Karnes wrote:
>
>> Hi all... 
>>
>>
>> Looking to find a classic Riv/Sugino XD2 Wide/Low crankset (in 170mm) for 
>> the rebuild of my beloved SimpleOne. If you have one that you’re looking to 
>> part with, shoot me a message. Thanks! 
>>
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Gran Compe Roller Straddle Cable Hanger pair

[Paul Richardson]

sold (very quickly!)

thanks everyone.

paul
tkpk

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[RBW] From the most recent “New Yorker” magazine

[Nick Lindsey]

So pleased to see the accolades (not to mention new orders for bikes & frames) 
being received from the recent article within the latest edition….




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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: 126 mm JIS taper SKF bb assembly for 68 mm English bottom bracket; or equally good substitute

[Will Boericke]

Can buy 5 Tange 127mm bottom brackets for the price of one SKF

Will

On Tuesday, October 15, 2024 at 1:14:00 PM UTC-4 Harry Travis wrote:

> Less than $100, delivered.
> [image: s-l400.jpg]
>
> NOS SKF Thun sealed square taper cartridge Bottom Bracket 127 mm, english 
> thread 
> 
> ebay.com 
> 
>
> 
>
>
> --
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> 17.7
>
> On Oct 15, 2024, at 9:11 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Thanks, Nick and Garth. In fact, I learned that RH hopes to restock the 
> SKF in 126 within a month or so, so I will hold out for that period.
>
> Question: The SKF bb has cups with integral shoulders. I take it that this 
> means that if you want to offset the spindle a couple of mm to the right (I 
> think that the SKF is symmetrical) I will need 2 mm of spacers on the drive 
> side?
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 2:45 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> RH is out and so are the other vendors I checked.
>>
>> Does anyone know a source?
>>
>> Again, SKF, 126 mm, JIS.
>>
>> If anyone has one to sell, I’m very interested.
>>
>> If I can’t find one I’ll probably ask Phil to mail me a 126 mm spindle 
>> but I do want an SKF. At least 1 Phil out of a score has gone bad too 
>> quickly, and I don’t get more than 15K miles out of my other Phils, so I 
>> would prefer to try an SKF.
>>
>> “Nother question: Is there another bb bearing assembly in 126 mm JIS that 
>> is anywhere near as good as SKFs are reputed to be? — Someone recently 
>> reported putting 20K miles on an SKF without any problems and it’s still 
>> going strong. That’s what I want. 
>>
>> 126 JIS = perfect; 127 mm works; 125 mm might work if laterally 
>> adjustable.
>>
>> Thanks.
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