Re: [RBW] 53cm Bridgestone RB-T $325 plus shipping

[David Hays]

Sold.

David Hays

> On Sep 15, 2024, at 8:47 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Wow, great price on a cult-ish RB-T! I had one that was a size up and it was 
> too small for me. 
> 
> Haven't checked yet but if you haven't cross-posted to iBoB I'd recommend it. 
> Surprised it hasn't sold yet!
> 
> On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 1:32:37 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>> David, 
>> 
>> Your RB-T is a nice package. Price seems fair to me. If my stable wasn't set 
>> I would jump on it. Good luck with the sale.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>> 
>> On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 9:54:07 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> Ah, interesting. Only the shifters are Shimano, I stand corrected. 
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 4:25:16 AM UTC-7 David Hays wrote:
 Suntour and Sakai.
 David Hays
 
 
 
 
 
 
> On Sep 14, 2024, at 2:05 AM, Joe Bernard > wrote:
> 
 
> Agreed with Nathan that it's a '91 frame but the original Suntour 
> components are missing. It's hard to see the lettering on the derailleurs 
> but looks to be a 7-speed Shimano group of one LX variation or another, 
> maybe a Sakae crank. As much as I cherish Suntour parts this conversion 
> probably works great and will continue to for a couple more decades. Nice 
> bike! 
> 
> Joe Bernard 
> Clearlake CA 
> 
> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 2:41:56 PM UTC-7 David Hays wrote:
>> t's time to thin the herd. I have a Bridgestone RB-T. I'm not sure what 
>> year it is but it has no rack braze-ons. I have fit a Pletscher rear 
>> rack- the deluxe one Rivendell sold with the pannier mounts- and a VO 
>> front rack with the decaleur mount. I have it set up with the original 
>> Nitto Mustache bar, Shimano bar end shifters and a black Brooks B17 in 
>> good shape. It has almost new H Plus Son rims and Jack Brown Green 
>> tires. There are some gaps in the decals and there are plenty of chips 
>> in the paint but not dents or rust. It just spends too much time on the 
>> hook. I can send more photos. Let me know if you think my price is out 
>> of line. Thanks.
>> David Hays
>> Buffalo, New York
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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[RBW] WTB : 36 Hole Dynamo Hub (Silver)

[Michael Baquerizo]

Hi All

Before I pull the trigger on a Shimano DH 3N72 I wanted to see if someone 
has the same or better for less than the $90 this one will cost me. 

Trying to update a stock Clem wheel with a dynamo for convenience. 

Thanks in advance and keep in mind I won't be answering DMs from people 
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[RBW] Re: WTB : 36 Hole Dynamo Hub (Silver)

[Justin Kennedy]

Hi Michael,

If you're looking for something a little more affordable than the Shinamo, 
I would recommend and have had good experiences with the Panasonic dynamo 
hubs. $60 from Peter White here:

https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/panahub.php

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 8:52:55 AM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Before I pull the trigger on a Shimano DH 3N72 I wanted to see if someone 
> has the same or better for less than the $90 this one will cost me. 
>
> Trying to update a stock Clem wheel with a dynamo for convenience. 
>
> Thanks in advance and keep in mind I won't be answering DMs from people 
> with no activity on the board.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB : 36 Hole Dynamo Hub (Silver)

[MICHAEL BAQUERIZO]

ahhh thats a nice little discount over the Shimano for a couple ounces
penalty. Thanks for the heads up!

On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 9:56 AM Justin Kennedy 
wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> If you're looking for something a little more affordable than the Shinamo,
> I would recommend and have had good experiences with the Panasonic dynamo
> hubs. $60 from Peter White here:
>
> https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/panahub.php
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 8:52:55 AM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Before I pull the trigger on a Shimano DH 3N72 I wanted to see if someone
>> has the same or better for less than the $90 this one will cost me.
>>
>> Trying to update a stock Clem wheel with a dynamo for convenience.
>>
>> Thanks in advance and keep in mind I won't be answering DMs from people
>> with no activity on the board.
>>
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[RBW] “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Roberta]

It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. 

You can read one New Yorker article for free. 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow

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[RBW] Re: Slipping on swept back handlebars

[Chris Halasz]

Nitto (and Kalloy) 25.4mm dirt drop stems have worked fine for me with my 
25.4mm Tosco and Albatross bars. 
On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 2:54:58 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Nitto Technomic single bolt designs were never intended to use with such 
> bars, it's just a matter of leverage, a long lever being held by a single 
> bolt clamp. With 2 or 4 bolt stems you need no friction substances or 
> heroic torque to get the bars to stay. 
> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 11:21:15 AM UTC-4 mcgr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I couldn't for the life of me get Ron's Ortho Bars to stop slipping.  I 
>> switched them out for a Choco-moose and never looked back!  The -moose bars 
>> are the perfect swept back system for rough terrain.
>>
>> On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 8:54:25 AM UTC-4 Bill S wrote:
>>
>>> This is probably not recommended, but I had a pair of choco bars that 
>>> slipped a bit when I first put them on, and ended up using the old soda can 
>>> shim trick and it's worked like a charm for about 2 years now.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 2:33:31 AM UTC-4 ricksteves wrote:
>>>
 Could always try a 25.4 clamp stem with the 26.0 diameter HBs - the 
 muscle it takes to get that clamp onto the wider HBs is more than enough 
 to 
 keep it in place when riding.

 A faceplater stem is never a bad idea either, since 2 or 4 bolts is 
 more secure than 1.

 ~ NJD

 On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 12:45:45 PM UTC-6 Ethan VanValkenburg 
 wrote:

> I just put some swept back handlebars on my bicycle and I am having 
> trouble with slipping. The handlebars sweep back 7 inches or so with a 
> 26mm 
> clamp diameter. My stem is a nitto tallux and I'm switching in an old 
> 130mm 
> Ritchey stem for more reach, but I'm still worried about the bar 
> slipping. 
> Is there a good solution for gripping big bars that increase torque at 
> the 
> stem clamp, especially when riding on gravel/off-road? 
>
> I might be able to tighten it more, but I'm worried that going tighter 
> will strip or deform the bolt. Do folks ever use thread-locker or some 
> adhesive for extra stick? Or do I need a 2-4 bolt faceplate stem for the 
> extra gripping strength?
>
> Let me know if you have any tips/tricks/ideas! Thanks,
>
> Ethan
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[RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Caroline Golum]

Can confirm the Riv to birding pipeline is real

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 11:32:24 AM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com wrote:

> dan!g you beat me to posting this!  its a good read and as a " mid 30s 
> tattooed skater who rides in cut off dickies and vans" I was a little 
> triggered to learn that I'm very "bird watching adjacent". 
>
> [image: IMG_4584.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_5005.jpg]
>
> Ben "little brother" R
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:29:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. 
>>
>> You can read one New Yorker article for free. 
>>
>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow
>>
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[RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

The writer made such gorgeous language out of it. Favorite quotes:

“But I felt, instead, a very adult sense of longing—as if I had just 
glimpsed, at a deeply inconvenient time, a new and appealing way to live.”

“Rivendell’s employees object to descriptions of the company’s following as 
cultlike. “The other stuff is the cult,” Keating told me.” 

“There was something romantic about the Rivendells. They made the other 
bikes on the road look mean.”

“The strength and fearlessness of the others filled me with an almost 
indescribable envy. What was it like to leave for a long ride at dusk—or 
cycle off into the woods with a sleeping bag, a patch kit, and some 
groceries—and be reasonably assured you’d have a great night? The world 
seemed divided between two types of people: those with a command of the 
physical world, and everyone else. The former had confidence, skill, and 
know-how; the rest of us had YouTube tutorials on removing anti-theft 
skewers.”
 
This was a gorgeous piece of writing that rightly celebrates a brilliant 
man. I’m so happy for him. I’m sure he hates the attention.
Leah


On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:

> Can confirm the Riv to birding pipeline is real
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 11:32:24 AM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> dan!g you beat me to posting this!  its a good read and as a " mid 30s 
>> tattooed skater who rides in cut off dickies and vans" I was a little 
>> triggered to learn that I'm very "bird watching adjacent". 
>>
>> [image: IMG_4584.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_5005.jpg]
>>
>> Ben "little brother" R
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:29:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. 
>>>
>>> You can read one New Yorker article for free. 
>>>
>>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: For the N+1 group

[Mackenzy Albright]

N+1 is a difficult one. 

My main limitations are realistically space to store given cost of renting 
a place in Vancouver that can accommodate a large number of bikes for 
better or worse. I struggled in the past building up different types of 
bikes in various configurations and was never really felt at home on 
anything which lead to rotation of bikes. Once I traded my Crust Romanceur 
for my Clementine I realized Clementine my all-terrain forever bike (N) - 
which allowed me to be very very specific about my (+1) including not 
feeling like they needed to be practical in any sense. I've set up a few 
rules to guide myself along. 

1. all +1's must be handmade and my size
2. ideally of Canadian / historic lineage or significance 
3. must be a unique, rare design, or one of a kind - more like artwork than 
bikes
4. Must be a good deal 
5. in case of emergency ignore all rules 

- Orange Clementine is my forever bike. Unlike my crust romanceur forever 
bike or my salsa elmariachi forever bike or my salsa fargo forever bike or 
my surly karate monkey forever bike or surly long haul trucker forever bike 
this is absolutely 100% certain my forever bike ;) 

-Marinoni Track (1979-80ish) dated via the stamped Columbus tubing. Early 
non production model with lots of subtle unique features. (no serial no, no 
paperwork)
-Marinoni Time Trial (1986) 700c/650c funny bike. With the UCI banning 
funny bikes these are somewhat rare, they look incredible, and very few 
were produced by Marinoni. (have a copy of the 1986 order form) 
-Syncros Triathalon bike (my guess would be early 90's based off the 650c 
suspension fork and parts) it's entirely custom and hand built aluminum 
frame with a lot of rare 90's syncros parts- the only frame built by 
Syncros as far as anyone knows. I haven't been able to find out much more 
other than the owner worked at syncros and is now deceased. Maybe a 
former machinist? The details on the bike are strange and beautiful. Maybe 
would be more at home in a museum - but not really sure there is anything 
like that in Canada. 
-A Raleigh twenty - mostly because I wanted the porteur rack on it and it 
was cheap - also a bike to "borrow" to visitors and Jason's build was 
pretty inspiring. Not particularly attached. 

+1 (ideally my last bike itch to scratch) is a custom via a builder in 
montreal. I wanted a lightweight swept back bar bike with a long top tube 
and lightweight tubing for 'spirited riding' - so wanted a shorter 
wheelbase unlike the new riv's despite my love for a long wheelbase. This 
one is still at the builder - I am out of storage space - so I may hit up 
my landlord to see if I can rent a corner of her garage but that may open 
up pandora's box of N+1

I am done building bikes after this - I swear. 

I would absolutely cave for a production single speed mtb like an all city 
junkyard dog, original 1x1, bianchi bass, or any 90's early 00's SS mtb 
counterparts. Though - I would most definitely have to get rid of something 
to fit this in. 


On Sunday, September 15, 2024 at 1:41:50 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Late in life after spending untold thousands trying to make bikes that I 
> didn't like in some big or small way into bikes that I liked entirely, I've 
> ended up with 3 customs that take care of all my real needs: gofast road, 
> errand road, and on- and off-road. I don't ride real mountain bike terrain 
> so I don't need a real mtb, and that saves me 1 bike; and I don't race or 
> ride in pacelines and that save me another bike, a gofast derailleur bike.
>
> I finally abandoned thoughts of a Monocog replacement, for single speed 
> drop bar riding over sand up to 4" deep, since the added bike would not be 
> ridden enough and would have liabilities that would make it not worth the 
> hassle of ownership, but I do very much want a nice-riding lock-up-outside 
> beater capable of 2" or at a pinch 3" sand that will be largely invisible 
> to thieves and am thinking of a Clem (I  will continue to think about this 
> as long as I feel like it, so don't rush me, OK?). I've also I've toyed 
> with thoughts of a Brompton. And on day perhaps a bike with electric assist.
>
> But when I think hard about my real needs and interests, for the immediate 
> future the only +1 will be a nice but (somewhat) disposable beater all 
> rounder -- "all" here including said sand.
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Re: [RBW] Re: For the N+1 group

[Patrick Moore]

Will this be essentially a lighter-weight, more nimble version of the Clem?
I'll be very interested to see the final result.



On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:30 AM Mackenzy Albright <
mackenzy.albri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ... +1 (ideally my last bike itch to scratch) is a custom via a builder in
> montreal. I wanted a lightweight swept back bar bike with a long top tube
> and lightweight tubing for 'spirited riding' - so wanted a shorter
> wheelbase unlike the new riv's despite my love for a long wheelbase. This
> one is still at the builder
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Re: [RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Richard Rose]

Great read. Sadly I currently have a bad cold & it’s a lovely day. So I am just sitting here - enjoying the veritable bird paradise that is our property, wishing I was riding my bike. Maybe tomorrow.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 16, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:The writer made such gorgeous language out of it. Favorite quotes:“But I felt, instead, a very adult sense of longing—as if I had just glimpsed, at a deeply inconvenient time, a new and appealing way to live.”“Rivendell’s employees object to descriptions of the company’s following as cultlike. “The other stuff is the cult,” Keating told me.” “There was something romantic about the Rivendells. They made the other bikes on the road look mean.”“The strength and fearlessness of the others filled me with an almost indescribable envy. What was it like to leave for a long ride at dusk—or cycle off into the woods with a sleeping bag, a patch kit, and some groceries—and be reasonably assured you’d have a great night? The world seemed divided between two types of people: those with a command of the physical world, and everyone else. The former had confidence, skill, and know-how; the rest of us had YouTube tutorials on removing anti-theft skewers.” This was a gorgeous piece of writing that rightly celebrates a brilliant man. I’m so happy for him. I’m sure he hates the attention.LeahOn Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:Can confirm the Riv to birding pipeline is realOn Monday, September 16, 2024 at 11:32:24 AM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com wrote:dan!g you beat me to posting this!  its a good read and as a " mid 30s tattooed skater who rides in cut off dickies and vans" I was a little triggered to learn that I'm very "bird watching adjacent". Ben "little brother" ROn Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:29:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. You can read one New Yorker article for free. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB : 36 Hole Dynamo Hub (Silver)

[Will Boericke]

Here's a Shimano disc dynamo for $43 
.
  
I have a centerlock disc dynamo hub on a bike with rim brakes, no issues.

Will



On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 10:20:45 AM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> ahhh thats a nice little discount over the Shimano for a couple ounces 
> penalty. Thanks for the heads up!
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 9:56 AM Justin Kennedy  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> If you're looking for something a little more affordable than the 
>> Shinamo, I would recommend and have had good experiences with the Panasonic 
>> dynamo hubs. $60 from Peter White here:
>>
>> https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/panahub.php
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 8:52:55 AM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Before I pull the trigger on a Shimano DH 3N72 I wanted to see if 
>>> someone has the same or better for less than the $90 this one will cost me. 
>>>
>>> Trying to update a stock Clem wheel with a dynamo for convenience. 
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance and keep in mind I won't be answering DMs from people 
>>> with no activity on the board.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Ryan]

Also a nice mention of BBDD, and the Platypi which she was too modest to 
mention...and I agree with Leah; it was very well-written.



On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:49:36 PM UTC-5 Richard Rose wrote:

> Great read. Sadly I currently have a bad cold & it’s a lovely day. So I am 
> just sitting here - enjoying the veritable bird paradise that is our 
> property, wishing I was riding my bike. Maybe tomorrow.:)
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> The writer made such gorgeous language out of it. Favorite quotes:
>
>
> “But I felt, instead, a very adult sense of longing—as if I had just 
> glimpsed, at a deeply inconvenient time, a new and appealing way to live.”
>
> “Rivendell’s employees object to descriptions of the company’s following 
> as cultlike. “The other stuff is the cult,” Keating told me.” 
>
> “There was something romantic about the Rivendells. They made the other 
> bikes on the road look mean.”
>
> “The strength and fearlessness of the others filled me with an almost 
> indescribable envy. What was it like to leave for a long ride at dusk—or 
> cycle off into the woods with a sleeping bag, a patch kit, and some 
> groceries—and be reasonably assured you’d have a great night? The world 
> seemed divided between two types of people: those with a command of the 
> physical world, and everyone else. The former had confidence, skill, and 
> know-how; the rest of us had YouTube tutorials on removing anti-theft 
> skewers.”
>  
> This was a gorgeous piece of writing that rightly celebrates a brilliant 
> man. I’m so happy for him. I’m sure he hates the attention.
> Leah
>
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:
>
>> Can confirm the Riv to birding pipeline is real
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 11:32:24 AM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> dan!g you beat me to posting this!  its a good read and as a " mid 30s 
>>> tattooed skater who rides in cut off dickies and vans" I was a little 
>>> triggered to learn that I'm very "bird watching adjacent". 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4584.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_5005.jpg]
>>>
>>> Ben "little brother" R
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:29:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. 

 You can read one New Yorker article for free. 

 https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow

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Re: [RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Andrew Scherer]

I enjoyed these quotes: 


"It was by far the longest, heaviest bicycle I had ever been on, and it 
moved with a surprising grace." 

"...we crossed into the hills and started up a paved, curving road, toward 
the trail. The ground was littered with sardines..."


Andy

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 2:30:34 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Also a nice mention of BBDD, and the Platypi which she was too modest to 
> mention...and I agree with Leah; it was very well-written.
>
>
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:49:36 PM UTC-5 Richard Rose wrote:
>
>> Great read. Sadly I currently have a bad cold & it’s a lovely day. So I 
>> am just sitting here - enjoying the veritable bird paradise that is our 
>> property, wishing I was riding my bike. Maybe tomorrow.:)
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The writer made such gorgeous language out of it. Favorite quotes:
>>
>>
>> “But I felt, instead, a very adult sense of longing—as if I had just 
>> glimpsed, at a deeply inconvenient time, a new and appealing way to live.”
>>
>> “Rivendell’s employees object to descriptions of the company’s following 
>> as cultlike. “The other stuff is the cult,” Keating told me.” 
>>
>> “There was something romantic about the Rivendells. They made the other 
>> bikes on the road look mean.”
>>
>> “The strength and fearlessness of the others filled me with an almost 
>> indescribable envy. What was it like to leave for a long ride at dusk—or 
>> cycle off into the woods with a sleeping bag, a patch kit, and some 
>> groceries—and be reasonably assured you’d have a great night? The world 
>> seemed divided between two types of people: those with a command of the 
>> physical world, and everyone else. The former had confidence, skill, and 
>> know-how; the rest of us had YouTube tutorials on removing anti-theft 
>> skewers.”
>>  
>> This was a gorgeous piece of writing that rightly celebrates a brilliant 
>> man. I’m so happy for him. I’m sure he hates the attention.
>> Leah
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:
>>
>>> Can confirm the Riv to birding pipeline is real
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 11:32:24 AM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 dan!g you beat me to posting this!  its a good read and as a " mid 30s 
 tattooed skater who rides in cut off dickies and vans" I was a little 
 triggered to learn that I'm very "bird watching adjacent". 

 [image: IMG_4584.jpg]

 [image: IMG_5005.jpg]

 Ben "little brother" R

 On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:29:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. 
>
> You can read one New Yorker article for free. 
>
> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow
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Re: [RBW] Re: 43mm-46mm 650b Tire Options.

[Kevin]

Challenge makes the Strada Bianca and the Gravel Grinder in a labeled 46mm. 
Unsure how they actually measure, though I'm hoping to give the Strada 
Biancas a go soon.

I think Pirelli has a couple gravel-focused options in this range as well.

On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 1:31:35 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Easy answer; Simworks Homage 650/27.5 x 43 (or 55). Both fantastic and on 
> sale now for just $54.00. 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 13, 2024, at 2:07 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> There certainly isn't much out there. I ordered 650Bx43 Gravel King SK's 
> from Germany and they measure quite true to size and are great all-rounder 
> tires in my opinion. The shipping is costly, but the tires themselves were 
> cheap; I ordered two pair and the total was cheaper than US MSRP for GK's. 
> I ordered thru bike-components.de.  They also have the nice Schwalbe 
> tubes 
>
>
>
> On Thursday 12 September 2024 at 15:45:03 UTC-7 Ken Mattina wrote:
>
>> I like the 47mm Teravail Rampart tires.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 3:05 PM christian poppell  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll put in a plug for the Soma Cazaderos. The 48 version runs small and 
>>> would be a great choice if you're looking for a semi knobbed tire below 
>>> 48mm.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 11:59:43 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>>>
 I ride 700c, but agree that Bruce Gordon R&R are excellent tires! 
 Fantastic on the rough stuff, and good on pavement. The owners are great 
 people, too, providing excellent customer support.
 I am a big fan of Panaracer tires, having ridden various iterations for 
 years. My current favorite for city riding is the Pasella Protite. Very 
 comfy tires, with better puncture resistance than the original. They offer 
 great grip on pavement - and they do surprisingly well on dirt. However, I 
 wish they came in a 700cx40 or 42. The fattest is a 38mm. 

 John

 On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 10:35:41 AM UTC-7 Kyle Cotchett 
 wrote:

> If you are into knobby tires, I am currently riding some bruce gordon 
> 43mm rock n roads  on my 
> bleriot. I love mine. They rip on trail paths and didnt feel slowed down 
> on 
> pavement. They do make that nice treaded hum on pavement if youre into 
> that 
> sort of thing.
>
> Kyle
>
> On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 8:19:43 AM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.modernbike.com/panaracer-t-serv-protite-folding-tire-650b-x-44mm-black
>>
>> sorry i never measured what mine come out to on a set of VO voyager 
>> rims. 
>>
>> I use these on my 'commuter' (i'm freelance so i don't often commute) 
>> but have and ride around NYC with these.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 10:43:40 AM UTC-4 
>> pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure I've seen anything marked between 42-584 and 48-584. 
>>> Smitty in DC
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2024 at 9:50:57 AM UTC-4 David B wrote:
>>>
 Curious what true 43mm-46mm 650b tire options are currently 
 available. I'm using Velocity Atlas rims, so 'true' meaning they'll 
 measure 
 that on those rims. I setup my Riv Redwood (glad I kept) as 650b for a 
 while now and am running 48mm Pari Motos (slightly undersized). 
 They're 
 mighty close to the chainstays, so looking for something slightly 
 smaller. 
 Asking for 43mm as it seems many of the current 42mm are undersized. 
 Thanks!
 David 

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Re: [RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Patrick Moore]

This is a very good article. I am more than willing to deprecate New Yorker
articles as dreary "preciousity" -- twee preciousness about trivialities
(not all; they often do good in-depth reporting; same opinion about the
NYT) -- but Wiener captured the values and the person. As to the person, I
can list 25 or 100 things about which I disagree with Grant, but this essay
and others before it demonstrate that he stands out because he believes in
something because of what that something is and not for any extrinsic
reason, andis willing to suffer loss to make and sell that sometthing. Back
circa 1998 he said, "We are product-driven, not market-driven," and this
phrase defines Rivendell. They believe certain things are good and they
make those things without diluting them in order to sell more of them, and
be damned to the rest of you.

This expresses a big part of the Rivendell idea:  “So many basic things are
being teched out of existence,” Petersen said. He saw this as a function of
business incentives: electronics break or need replacement; an upgrade is
always around the corner. Petersen’s objections are practical but also
philosophical. As bikes become higher-tech, riders lose skills and agency.

I liked this one, too: "There was something romantic about the Rivendells.
They made the other bikes on the road look mean."

Bike Snob devoted today's post largely to the New Yorker article. "It’s a
proper story, too, and not one of those little thumbnail sketches where
they’re subtly mocking the person ..." -- making fun of Streetsblog.



On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 12:48 PM Andrew Scherer 
wrote:

> I enjoyed these quotes:
>
>
> "It was by far the longest, heaviest bicycle I had ever been on, and it
> moved with a surprising grace."
>
> "...we crossed into the hills and started up a paved, curving road, toward
> the trail. The ground was littered with sardines..."
>
>
> Andy
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 2:30:34 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Also a nice mention of BBDD, and the Platypi which she was too modest to
>> mention...and I agree with Leah; it was very well-written.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:49:36 PM UTC-5 Richard Rose wrote:
>>
>>> Great read. Sadly I currently have a bad cold & it’s a lovely day. So I
>>> am just sitting here - enjoying the veritable bird paradise that is our
>>> property, wishing I was riding my bike. Maybe tomorrow.:)
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 16, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The writer made such gorgeous language out of it. Favorite quotes:
>>>
>>>
>>> “But I felt, instead, a very adult sense of longing—as if I had just
>>> glimpsed, at a deeply inconvenient time, a new and appealing way to live.”
>>>
>>> “Rivendell’s employees object to descriptions of the company’s following
>>> as cultlike. “The other stuff is the cult,” Keating told me.”
>>>
>>> “There was something romantic about the Rivendells. They made the other
>>> bikes on the road look mean.”
>>>
>>> “The strength and fearlessness of the others filled me with an almost
>>> indescribable envy. What was it like to leave for a long ride at dusk—or
>>> cycle off into the woods with a sleeping bag, a patch kit, and some
>>> groceries—and be reasonably assured you’d have a great night? The world
>>> seemed divided between two types of people: those with a command of the
>>> physical world, and everyone else. The former had confidence, skill, and
>>> know-how; the rest of us had YouTube tutorials on removing anti-theft
>>> skewers.”
>>>  
>>> This was a gorgeous piece of writing that rightly celebrates a brilliant
>>> man. I’m so happy for him. I’m sure he hates the attention.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:
>>>
 Can confirm the Riv to birding pipeline is real

 On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 11:32:24 AM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> dan!g you beat me to posting this!  its a good read and as a " mid 30s
> tattooed skater who rides in cut off dickies and vans" I was a little
> triggered to learn that I'm very "bird watching adjacent".
>
> [image: IMG_4584.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_5005.jpg]
>
> Ben "little brother" R
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:29:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, ….
>>
>> You can read one New Yorker article for free.
>>
>>
>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: For the N+1 group

[Mackenzy Albright]

The concept with the builder was to design something akin to a 
bombadil/hunqapillar in fit and setup - but slightly more randonneur (or 
constructeur porteur) in lightweight construction and geometry ALA 
lightning bolt (Jan's mule) I liked how my romancer rode most of the time, 
just don't want discs and the top tube was a bit too short so it really 
struggled with climbing with swept back bars as the front wanted to hop 
constantly even with a 130mm stem. The frame won't necessarily be low trail 
- I left the particularities of geometry with the builder. The idea is with 
a longer wheelbase and a longer, but not rivendell lng chain stay it 
should situate myself more centered in the bike for better climbing and 
comfort but still allow some spring in it's step. 

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 10:41:29 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Will this be essentially a lighter-weight, more nimble version of the 
> Clem? I'll be very interested to see the final result.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:30 AM Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
>> ... +1 (ideally my last bike itch to scratch) is a custom via a builder 
>> in montreal. I wanted a lightweight swept back bar bike with a long top 
>> tube and lightweight tubing for 'spirited riding' - so wanted a shorter 
>> wheelbase unlike the new riv's despite my love for a long wheelbase. This 
>> one is still at the builder
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: For the N+1 group

[Ryan]

If my last SS iteration of 3 PX10s went walkabout (like the previous 2), I 
would absolutely get a RoadUno as a single-speed suitable for my creaky 
knees. Id swap for an 18 or 19 WI freewheel, probably run one chainring, go 
for an S83 seat post ; maybe someone will trade for my 27.2 one from my 
mixte and I can use that lugged one I bought a few years agobut 
otherwise I'm good. Might go for purple. 

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:41:29 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Will this be essentially a lighter-weight, more nimble version of the 
> Clem? I'll be very interested to see the final result.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:30 AM Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
>> ... +1 (ideally my last bike itch to scratch) is a custom via a builder 
>> in montreal. I wanted a lightweight swept back bar bike with a long top 
>> tube and lightweight tubing for 'spirited riding' - so wanted a shorter 
>> wheelbase unlike the new riv's despite my love for a long wheelbase. This 
>> one is still at the builder
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: For the N+1 group

[Johnny Burrell]

I'm heading the other direction. I want one bike that has all the things 
the way I like them and one bike I can focus my attention and accessories 
on. When COVID started I had 6 bikes and 0 Rivendell's. I found a 
Hunqapillar from a friend here on the group and now have it and another 
bike. Soon to be just the Hunq. But then I don't do 10 different types of 
riding anymore so I don't need 10 different bikes. I like the simplicity in 
a single bike and the Hunq does what I want in comfort and style. It does 
the kind of riding I like to do. Errands around town, mindless meandering, 
commuting, dumb fire-lane shenanigans and under-biking in the park.

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:38:18 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> If my last SS iteration of 3 PX10s went walkabout (like the previous 2), I 
> would absolutely get a RoadUno as a single-speed suitable for my creaky 
> knees. Id swap for an 18 or 19 WI freewheel, probably run one chainring, go 
> for an S83 seat post ; maybe someone will trade for my 27.2 one from my 
> mixte and I can use that lugged one I bought a few years agobut 
> otherwise I'm good. Might go for purple. 
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:41:29 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Will this be essentially a lighter-weight, more nimble version of the 
>> Clem? I'll be very interested to see the final result.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:30 AM Mackenzy Albright  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ... +1 (ideally my last bike itch to scratch) is a custom via a builder 
>>> in montreal. I wanted a lightweight swept back bar bike with a long top 
>>> tube and lightweight tubing for 'spirited riding' - so wanted a shorter 
>>> wheelbase unlike the new riv's despite my love for a long wheelbase. This 
>>> one is still at the builder
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Knicker Quest

[Igor]

Resurrecting this old discussion. RH has never restocked. I've emailed 
Jitensha to find out if those are still available.. Any new findings?

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 7:19:02 PM UTC-5 Ron Mc wrote:

>
> I managed over a few yearsto find two other knicker brands both on 
> closeout that I like, and of course, now also discontinued.   
> MUSA spoiled me for the cinch at the bottom that keeps cold air from my 
> knees.  
> I looked at everything offered on this page.  
> The Keela SF, also discontinued, look perfect by the last pair that was on 
> ebay.  
> The Aerotech looked good enough, I bought a pair.  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Knicker Quest

[Eric Floden]

I would like to know as well. And I have been unable to figure out how to
ask...

On Mon, Sept 16, 2024, 13:40 Igor  wrote:

> Resurrecting this old discussion. RH has never restocked. I've emailed
> Jitensha to find out if those are still available.. Any new findings?
>
> On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 7:19:02 PM UTC-5 Ron Mc wrote:
>
>>
>> I managed over a few yearsto find two other knicker brands both on
>> closeout that I like, and of course, now also discontinued.
>> MUSA spoiled me for the cinch at the bottom that keeps cold air from my
>> knees.
>> I looked at everything offered on this page.
>> The Keela SF, also discontinued, look perfect by the last pair that was
>> on ebay.
>> The Aerotech looked good enough, I bought a pair.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Tom Goodmann]

Just read and relished this article, including the shout-out to Leah, aka 
Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 

May readers will find their way to more happiness aboard these wonderful 
bicycles. 

Thank you, Grant, for what you and all the friendly folk at RBW make and 
do, celebrate and share.

Tom
(happily cycling in Vermont on an AR/Proto-Saluki)

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 3:12:33 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> This is a very good article. I am more than willing to deprecate New 
> Yorker articles as dreary "preciousity" -- twee preciousness about 
> trivialities (not all; they often do good in-depth reporting; same opinion 
> about the NYT) -- but Wiener captured the values and the person. As to the 
> person, I can list 25 or 100 things about which I disagree with Grant, but 
> this essay and others before it demonstrate that he stands out because he 
> believes in something because of what that something is and not for any 
> extrinsic reason, andis willing to suffer loss to make and sell that 
> sometthing. Back circa 1998 he said, "We are product-driven, not 
> market-driven," and this phrase defines Rivendell. They believe certain 
> things are good and they make those things without diluting them in order 
> to sell more of them, and be damned to the rest of you.
>
> This expresses a big part of the Rivendell idea:  “So many basic things 
> are being teched out of existence,” Petersen said. He saw this as a 
> function of business incentives: electronics break or need replacement; an 
> upgrade is always around the corner. Petersen’s objections are practical 
> but also philosophical. As bikes become higher-tech, riders lose skills and 
> agency.
>
> I liked this one, too: "There was something romantic about the Rivendells. 
> They made the other bikes on the road look mean."
>
> Bike Snob devoted today's post largely to the New Yorker article. "It’s a 
> proper story, too, and not one of those little thumbnail sketches where 
> they’re subtly mocking the person ..." -- making fun of Streetsblog.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 12:48 PM Andrew Scherer  
> wrote:
>
>> I enjoyed these quotes: 
>>
>>
>> "It was by far the longest, heaviest bicycle I had ever been on, and it 
>> moved with a surprising grace." 
>>
>> "...we crossed into the hills and started up a paved, curving road, 
>> toward the trail. The ground was littered with sardines..."
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 2:30:34 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Also a nice mention of BBDD, and the Platypi which she was too modest to 
>>> mention...and I agree with Leah; it was very well-written.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:49:36 PM UTC-5 Richard Rose wrote:
>>>
 Great read. Sadly I currently have a bad cold & it’s a lovely day. So I 
 am just sitting here - enjoying the veritable bird paradise that is our 
 property, wishing I was riding my bike. Maybe tomorrow.:)
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 16, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 The writer made such gorgeous language out of it. Favorite quotes:


 “But I felt, instead, a very adult sense of longing—as if I had just 
 glimpsed, at a deeply inconvenient time, a new and appealing way to live.”

 “Rivendell’s employees object to descriptions of the company’s 
 following as cultlike. “The other stuff is the cult,” Keating told me.” 

 “There was something romantic about the Rivendells. They made the other 
 bikes on the road look mean.”

 “The strength and fearlessness of the others filled me with an almost 
 indescribable envy. What was it like to leave for a long ride at dusk—or 
 cycle off into the woods with a sleeping bag, a patch kit, and some 
 groceries—and be reasonably assured you’d have a great night? The world 
 seemed divided between two types of people: those with a command of the 
 physical world, and everyone else. The former had confidence, skill, and 
 know-how; the rest of us had YouTube tutorials on removing anti-theft 
 skewers.”
  
 This was a gorgeous piece of writing that rightly celebrates a 
 brilliant man. I’m so happy for him. I’m sure he hates the attention.
 Leah


 On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:

> Can confirm the Riv to birding pipeline is real
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 11:32:24 AM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> dan!g you beat me to posting this!  its a good read and as a " mid 
>> 30s tattooed skater who rides in cut off dickies and vans" I was a 
>> little 
>> triggered to learn that I'm very "bird watching adjacent". 
>>
>> [image: IMG_4584.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_5005.jpg]
>>
>> Ben "little brother" R
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:29:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrot

[RBW] Re: FS: Roaduno wheelset with Phil Wood hub

[CMR]

Phil rear sold.

Sora/Cliffhanger front wheel still available for $65 picked up or $105 
shipped. Thanks!

On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 10:56:51 AM UTC-7 CMR wrote:

>  120mm rear but Phil has spacers for 130mm. I am using hardware store 
> spacers for 130mm without a problem. Both are wheels are 700c.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-7 CMR wrote:
>
>> -Phil Wood rear for $175
>> -Cliffhanger front for $65
>> -$225 for both
>> -Add $40 to ship either or both
>>
>> On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 9:35:10 PM UTC-7 CMR wrote:
>>
>>> Still available
>>> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 12:55:17 PM UTC-7 CMR wrote:
>>>
 Tires are no longer available!
 -Phil Wood rear for $190
 -Cliffhanger front for $90
 -$250 for both
 -Add $40 to ship either or both

 Thanks!




 On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:51:14 AM UTC-7 CMR wrote:

> Congrats to all who grabbed a Roaduno - who needs a wheelset?! I also 
> have a 105-Mavic front wheel if you want something narrower than the 
> cliffhanger, but not as nice condition as the other two wheels (-$25 for 
> these).
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 9:55:30 AM UTC-7 CMR wrote:
>
>> Still available and can potentially split the wheels if interested.
>>
>> On Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 8:21:00 AM UTC-7 CMR wrote:
>>
>>> Price drop - $280 without tires, $325 with tires, picked up in Menlo 
>>> Park, happy to ship at cost.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 10:26:00 PM UTC-7 CMR wrote:
>>>
 Buy this wheelset and save me from buying the Roaduno frame!

 Phil wood rear hub laced to Sun CR18 rim
 Shimano silver hub laced to Velocity Cliffhanger (tubeless ready)
 Gravelking slicks 700x38
 Phil wood 14t track cog included but needs a lockring, or remove it 
 and use a freewheel!
 All silver everything

 Pics: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21267164@N02/with/53805889410


 $375 picked up in Menlo Park, happy to ship at cost.

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Hilsen Frameset 61.5cm

[Sebastian Rodriguez]

This person on another post is looking for a homer in 61.5

Rivendell Tinder? Not really, but close. (google.com) 


On Sunday, September 15, 2024 at 8:30:52 AM UTC-7 Reid Echols wrote:

> Hi folks, 
>
> I'm thinking I'd like to size up on my Homer, and take advantage of Riv's 
> deal on the 64cm frames. I have a gold Homer in 61.5 and in excellent 
> condition if anyone would like to help finance the transition :) 
>
> Pictured below, more on request. Only interested in selling the frameset 
> at the moment, but could make deals on drivetrain, etc. if anyone needs 
> something to get you going. Asking $1350 plus shipping from Austin, TX. 
>
> Cheers, 
> Reid in Austin 
>
> [image: IMG_7880.jpeg]
>
> [image: 5E5BC782-1886-49F2-9794-197D66EF75BD.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Tinder? Not really, but close.

[Sebastian Rodriguez]

This person on another post is looking to sell his:

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/l64aN2WCUW0

On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 6:40:08 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hey Brody,
>
> Looks like Bikeinsights has the chainstay and top tube on the Homer a 
> little longer, the stack on the Roadini looks a little taller too.
>
> [image: Screenshot 2024-09-12 at 9.37.33 AM.png]
>
>
> On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 2:33:43 AM UTC-4 rau...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Brody i have zero relationship to the seller but 1hr from in Chicago is a 
>> complete 64cm Holden for $1500 which seems like a great deal. Minimum pbh 
>> looks to be 94cm so I don’t know if sizing up will work for ya but I sized 
>> up on the Appaloosa for what it’s worth. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2024 at 1:39:37 PM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Brody,
>>>
>>> The Radavist Radbazaaar has 2 bikes and 2 frames in your size 
>>> listed(Rambo, Sam, Romulus, and Roadini). though you'd need to throw some 
>>> different bars on the two completes.
>>>
>>> Might be worth browsing!
>>>
>>> - Drew
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 3:17:33 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I approve of this form of "want to buy" post.  I hope somebody swipes 
 in the direction that folks swipe to make something positive happen.  

 BL in EC

 On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 11:42:22 AM UTC-7 Brody wrote:

> *ME:* A long-time steel rider who has admired Rivendell bikes from 
> afar for years. After being inspired and encouraged by a few regulars on 
> this board, I was finally able to make my way to Walnut Creek this summer 
> to pedal my first. Will put me on a 61.5cm Roaduno with Billie bars (only 
> bike built up in my size). It was snappy, responsive, and the frame specs 
> were spot on for my now preferred upright riding style. I used to log 
> serious road miles on my minty Indy Fab 
>  but now it's less about 
> speed, distance, and Strava logs. It’s all about comfort. If I can get in 
> four 15-20 mile loops each week I'm happy. Yep, just enough wind on my 
> face 
> to achieve that optimum balance of mental and physical health. It's been 
> working like a charm thus far on my Surly Cross Check w/Soma Oxford bars. 
> But once my Indy Fab finds a new home (open to trading btw), I need 
> another 
> bike right?
>
>
> *YOU:* Own a 61.5cm Homer or 61cm Roadini with Billie or Albatross 
> bars? You’ve been on the fence about whether you want to find a new home 
> for it. Perhaps it’s not seeing as much action as you had hoped? Maybe 
> you 
> need to thin out your herd? Or could it be you’d like to try out a new 
> model, prep for move, or you’ve decided it’s just a tad too big or small 
> to 
> achieve your "perfect fit"? Whatever the case, you’ve resisted listing 
> your 
> Riv for sale because the process can be so __(fill in 
> blank 
> with adverb ending in *“ing”*).  
>
>
> *MORE:* I'm 6-2 with a 93.5 PBH and a 80cm saddle height. I'm not 
> much of wrencher (outside of simple tweaks) so ideally I’d be looking for 
> a 
> complete bike. I'm not afraid of a little beausage as long as there’s no 
> rust, and the bike is mechanically sound. I’m looking for something I can 
> ride now, not a Fall project. 
>
>
> Are we match? Is it meant to be? Send me a DM.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Brody in LA
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Knicker Quest

[Artaud]

My RH pair still sees a fait amount of use, but I have also been seriously 
considering the knickers made (to order, I believe?) by RSA Sun Bags, from 
Japan:
http://sunbagsshop.shop-pro.jp/?mode=cate&cbid=2455312&csid=0&sort=n
Three variants, the "740" in 30% wool / 70% polyester, the "tweed" in 70% 
wool / 30% polyester and the "657" nylon.
The 740 model looks great to me. International shipping available, as far 
as I can tell; someone order and report, please.

Denis, in NC


Le lundi 16 septembre 2024 à 16:44:20 UTC-4, ericf3 a écrit :

> I would like to know as well. And I have been unable to figure out how to 
> ask...
>
> On Mon, Sept 16, 2024, 13:40 Igor  wrote:
>
>> Resurrecting this old discussion. RH has never restocked. I've emailed 
>> Jitensha to find out if those are still available.. Any new findings?
>>
>> On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 7:19:02 PM UTC-5 Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I managed over a few yearsto find two other knicker brands both on 
>>> closeout that I like, and of course, now also discontinued.   
>>> MUSA spoiled me for the cinch at the bottom that keeps cold air from my 
>>> knees.  
>>> I looked at everything offered on this page.  
>>> The Keela SF, also discontinued, look perfect by the last pair that was 
>>> on ebay.  
>>> The Aerotech looked good enough, I bought a pair.  
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Knicker Quest

[Richard Rose]

A few(?) years ago they became available - last run? My wonderful daughters got me a pair. They are really nice & I wear them often. Surprised they do not still offer them.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 16, 2024, at 4:40 PM, Igor  wrote:Resurrecting this old discussion. RH has never restocked. I've emailed Jitensha to find out if those are still available.. Any new findings?On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 7:19:02 PM UTC-5 Ron Mc wrote:I managed over a few yearsto find two other knicker brands both on closeout that I like, and of course, now also discontinued.   MUSA spoiled me for the cinch at the bottom that keeps cold air from my knees.  I looked at everything offered on this page.  The Keela SF, also discontinued, look perfect by the last pair that was on ebay.  The Aerotech looked good enough, I bought a pair.  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Knicker Quest

[Eric Floden]

>
>
> On the clothing tab, it says this (my emphasis):


We want our riders to look as elegant and stylish as their bikes. Our
clothes combine the ultimate in performance with an understated look. Our
jerseys are simple and elegant. *Our knickers *are performance cycling wear
that disappear when you ride, yet look appropriate when you enter a fine
restaurant.

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[RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

['Tom M' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks so much for sharing that article. Loved the writing.
Tom in Alexandria, VA

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 10:29:21 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. 
>
> You can read one New Yorker article for free. 
>
> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow
>

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[RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Bryan Dalik]

A lovely article that I think really gets the gist of Rivendell and Grant. 
I love the connection to Yvon Chouinard, as I think of Grant as the Yvon of 
the bicycle realm. I do wish that there was less "dogma" in the Rivendell 
world - I love Riv and love to ride slow on heavy steel bikes with baskets, 
but I also wear lycra and like to go fast for 100 miles at a time. Can't 
both be fine? Can't e-bikes be fine? 2 wheels is better than 4 in the end, 
in any capacity or style of riding. More people on bikes should always be 
the end goal.

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 8:01:59 PM UTC-4 Tom M wrote:

> Thanks so much for sharing that article. Loved the writing.
> Tom in Alexandria, VA
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 10:29:21 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. 
>>
>> You can read one New Yorker article for free. 
>>
>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow
>>
>

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[RBW] ISO: Roaduno 51cm complete mustard

[Taylor M]

Anyone know of any dealers in CONUS who may have a complete 51cm Roaduno, 
preferrably in mustard? Thanks in advance Riv fam!

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[RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[ascpgh]

I met Grant at InterBike after opening our dealership of Bridgestone with 
our outside rep, Chris Watson.  
He 
was quiet but proud of the line and executing what he believed. He offered 
jellybeans from his pocket which I did accept. 

We had a nice conversation and he appreciated what we were doing and where 
we were doing it. His calm assuredness helped us reinforce our confidence 
with the direction we were taking with our bicycle business. We were about 
access, stewardship and a long ball view instead of the speculative 
incrementalism overtaking the industry at the time. 

We rode our bikes places not imagined when designed and needed a partner 
supplier for that deviance. Someone who didn't think it weird to ride road 
bikes on forest service dual tracks or on 75 mile loops of dirt roads and 
chip top on mountain bikes. 

I'm glad Grant has continued to adhere to a path less travelled and to have 
been an early customer when I had a need not met in the rest of the 
industry. I hope it goes on for all of those who get it. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 10:29:21 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. 
>
> You can read one New Yorker article for free. 
>
> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow
>

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[RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Nathan Mattia]

Andy, that’s a beautiful piece of writing unto itself.

Came home to this article today, after taking my new2me Appaloosa out for a 
quick 10 miles after dinner.  Such a great ride. 
Such a great read.

After reading it I am sure that the most controversial and grating thing 
about Grant to most people is the refusal to chase the money.  Chasing the 
money is accepted, no ENCOURAGED, as justification for a thousand 
indiscretions and abominations both big and small, and Grant refuses to do 
it.  There’s an integrity there that is tough to find in businesses, but 
when I do, I support it.  
And maybe, just maybe, that’s not virtue signaling on my part,  if it 
encourages me to make similar decisions and not just enjoy an excellent 
bike.

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 9:05:57 PM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> I met Grant at InterBike after opening our dealership of Bridgestone with 
> our outside rep, Chris Watson.  
> He
>  
> was quiet but proud of the line and executing what he believed. He offered 
> jellybeans from his pocket which I did accept. 
>
> We had a nice conversation and he appreciated what we were doing and where 
> we were doing it. His calm assuredness helped us reinforce our confidence 
> with the direction we were taking with our bicycle business. We were about 
> access, stewardship and a long ball view instead of the speculative 
> incrementalism overtaking the industry at the time. 
>
> We rode our bikes places not imagined when designed and needed a partner 
> supplier for that deviance. Someone who didn't think it weird to ride road 
> bikes on forest service dual tracks or on 75 mile loops of dirt roads and 
> chip top on mountain bikes. 
>
> I'm glad Grant has continued to adhere to a path less travelled and to 
> have been an early customer when I had a need not met in the rest of the 
> industry. I hope it goes on for all of those who get it. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 10:29:21 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> It’s about Grant, Rivendell, philosophies, …. 
>>
>> You can read one New Yorker article for free. 
>>
>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/the-art-of-taking-it-slow
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Knicker Quest

[Nathan Mattia]

Deacon!  I have missed you around these parts.
Boiled Socks!!  Yes.  We need more of this.
Welcome back, Sir.

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 6:39:17 PM UTC-5 ericf3 wrote:

>
>> On the clothing tab, it says this (my emphasis):
>
>
> We want our riders to look as elegant and stylish as their bikes. Our 
> clothes combine the ultimate in performance with an understated look. Our 
> jerseys are simple and elegant. *Our knickers *are performance cycling 
> wear that disappear when you ride, yet look appropriate when you enter a 
> fine restaurant.
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: "Rivendell Custom"

[Corwin Zechar]

I was aware that Grant was scaling back on customs when I asked if I could 
get a replacement frame. I do consider myself lucky to be able to get 
something to replace the custom I lost. I'm not sure the tap is actually 
"turned off". I have seen several customs mentioned in the weekly email 
newsletter from Will. And I know they are keeping Mark Nobilette very busy.

I think you are much more likely to get a custom if you are looking for an 
upright bike instead of a bike requiring a more "aero" riding position. 
Most of the customs I have seen come through were upright, versus my bike 
with the [Albastache] bars slammed.

Regards,


Corwin
On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 4:45:00 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> AFAIK Rivendell isn't even offering customs any more...unless someone 
> closer to Walnut Creek knows differently. Customs aren't on the site 
> anymore. So, Corwin, I'm happy for you that you were able to order a custom 
> to replace your stolen one before the tap was turned off. My first CG road 
> in mustard(outlier then, but popular now)  was 2300 in 2001 and my MN mixte 
> ordered in 2015 was 3500. 
>
> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 9:14:53 PM UTC-5 Corwin Zechar wrote:
>
>> Point of clarification...
>>
>> The price of a new custom is currently $5K. I agree that the price for 
>> this frame is high - especially given much of the value of a custom frame 
>> is in the fidelity to the sizing and riding of the person the frame was 
>> designed for. I paid $2700 for my first custom about fifteen years ago 
>> (stolen April 2021). Paid more than $5K (Nobilette did some lug carving) 
>> for it's replacement earlier this year.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>> On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 11:24:14 PM UTC-7 John Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> I've got no personal problem if someone wants to sell their bike frame, 
>>> but I find it an odd marketing strategy to publish poorly lit photos and a 
>>> very limited description while asking close to what a new custom frame 
>>> would cost. Good luck to them.
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 4:50:49 AM UTC+2 jerry...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Not mine, and no affiliation...  


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