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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-14 Thread Bill Fulford

My orthos slipped a lot. What I finally did was mount them in a 31.8 four 
bolt stem with a shim. Now they don’t move at all. Maybe worth a try.  Bill

On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 8:56:42 PM UTC-4 drew.jo...@gmail.com 
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> Thank you! I’m glad you like my interpretation so far.  Will send the 
> finished project…
>
> Noted on the stem. Hopefully, it won’t be an issue.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Drew
>
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> On Sep 13, 2024, at 5:48 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
> That is a gorgeous bike! I think the vast majority don't have issues with 
> slipping. I wouldn't worry about it UNLESS you have an issue which may be 
> partially riding style and habits...I think the main points from the other 
> thread are to make sure your stem bolt is greased and you use adequate 
> torque to prevent slip but also not so much torque that you over-tighten as 
> it could ovalize the bar since it's thin. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 3:16:14 PM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ryan! 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> > On Sep 13, 2024, at 4:27 PM, Ryan Ogilvie  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > My view is that the single bolt clamps just don’t have a sufficient 
>> clamping force to keep the Orthos from slipping. Even if you tighten it so 
>> it stays put, you’ve over-torqued the fastener which can lead to bad summer 
>> teeth (some’r her, some’r there). A four bolt plate should work, tho. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my mobile device. 
>> > 
>> >> On Sep 13, 2024, at 5:04 PM, Andrew Joseph  
>> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me. 
>> >> 
>> >> What was the consensus on getting them to stay put? 
>> >> 
>> >> The Sam rebuild is almost there. Orthos will be angle down slightly 
>> more, bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow…. 
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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-14 Thread David Ross

I’ve had good results with the Park anti slip gel, using a 26mm stem on my
90s mtb and also on another ATB I have that’s running a 31.8 with a shim.
That’s good for general riding. However, if you’re going to ride really
technical stuff and apply a lot of leverage to the bar ends, they’re going
to slip in my experience. I have another set of Doom copies of an Albatross
on my Gus with a 22.2 bmx stem and they do not slip, even when riding
technical stuff. Another thing I’ve learned to do is to hold the area in
front of the levers if I’m going to apply a lot of leverage to the bars.

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> Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.
>
> What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?
>
> The Sam rebuild is almost there.  Orthos will be angle down slightly more,
> bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….
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[RBW] Re: Converting a T1000 into an Atlantis

2024-09-14 Thread Ryan

Agreed. Very classy! May have mentioned before that I've owned 3 
Cannondales; an M500 from mid 1980s with the 24" rear wheel. a 1990 M2000 
and a late 1980s T600
 which was a fine touring bike that was also fun to ride unloaded. 
On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 8:32:08 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Will, that dark green, silver and leather could not look more perfect! 
> It's a jewel.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 10:39:47 AM UTC-4 Will M wrote:
>
>> Hi all.  
>>
>> S.  If you listen carefully you can hear my 1990s Cannondale 
>> T1000 whisper, "I wish I were an Atlantis!"  How many parts you can spot 
>> from the Riv catalog in this recent pic? 
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/52412267528
>>
>> Answers:
>>
>>- Cockpit: Tallux stem, Albastache bars, Dia-Compe long-pull levers*
>>- Silver2 friction bar-end shifter (right)#
>>- Downtube friction shifter (left)#
>>- Jack Brown tires
>>- SKS 45mm fenders
>>- Brooks Flyer Special saddle
>>- Sugino XD2 24/36/46 triple crank (and IRD bottom bracket)
>>- Nitto 2-strut top rack + Wald 139 basket**
>>- Nitto Big Back Rack ("large"; 40-pound capacity!)
>>- Busch & Müller Secula battery light 
>>- King water bottle cages
>>
>> Only 5 original parts remain: generic linear-pull brakes, 105 headset, XT 
>> & 105 derailleurs, RSX hubs,## and the CAAD2 Touring frameset.  Got 
>> Motolites and a rapid rise in my sights, when the time comes.   And any old 
>> 61cm Atlantis if the aluminum frame cracks. 
>>
>> Backstory: In the 1990s with time for extended self-supported tours, but 
>> no dough for the dream bike (Atlantis), I scraped up enough for this 
>> US-made Cannondale T1000.  Parts that wore out over the subsequent quarter 
>> century were always replaced from the Riv catalog, slowly turning the T1000 
>> into an Atlantis.  
>>
>> I know this transformation is not unique, but wanted to share. 
>>
>> Cheers, 
>> Will M 
>> NYC
>>
>> * Many have written about Albastache bars working/not working for them 
>> , but after 
>> decades on drop bars, the Albastache for me is a revelation.  A rebirth.  A 
>> dramatic improvement.  Thanks to Paul G on this list for shifter cable 
>> routing advice. 
>>
>> # It was originally spec'ed with 105 STI 9-speed brifters.  Both brifters 
>> failed catastrophically after only 10 years.
>>
>> ** Back in the aughts, Grant's writing in the* Reader* inspired ditching 
>> the low-riders for the two-strut rack and 139 basket.  Self-supported 
>> touring with 20-30 pounds in low-rider-mounted panniers is amazing, stable, 
>> motorcycle-like.  Putting 18 lbs (the max weight) up in the basket is... 
>> well... I'll go back to low-riders for the next adventure tour.  
>>
>> ## The original Mavic T221 touring rims self-destructed 
>> 
>>  
>> with cracking between eyelets. Only hubs live on. 
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-14 Thread David Ross

I’d also add that the guy who designed the Orthos uses a 25.4 single bolt
stem on the Orthos even though they are 26mm. I think he actually designed
them to work this way. Personally, I don’t know enough about engineering or
metallurgy to know if this is a good or bad idea, so please don’t think I’m
advising you to do this.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 5:05 PM Andrew Joseph 
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> Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.
>
> What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?
>
> The Sam rebuild is almost there.  Orthos will be angle down slightly more,
> bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….
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[RBW] Re: "Rivendell Custom"

2024-09-14 Thread Ryan

AFAIK Rivendell isn't even offering customs any more...unless someone 
closer to Walnut Creek knows differently. Customs aren't on the site 
anymore. So, Corwin, I'm happy for you that you were able to order a custom 
to replace your stolen one before the tap was turned off. My first CG road 
in mustard(outlier then, but popular now)  was 2300 in 2001 and my MN mixte 
ordered in 2015 was 3500. 

On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 9:14:53 PM UTC-5 Corwin Zechar wrote:

> Point of clarification...
>
> The price of a new custom is currently $5K. I agree that the price for 
> this frame is high - especially given much of the value of a custom frame 
> is in the fidelity to the sizing and riding of the person the frame was 
> designed for. I paid $2700 for my first custom about fifteen years ago 
> (stolen April 2021). Paid more than $5K (Nobilette did some lug carving) 
> for it's replacement earlier this year.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Corwin
>
> On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 11:24:14 PM UTC-7 John Johnson wrote:
>
>> I've got no personal problem if someone wants to sell their bike frame, 
>> but I find it an odd marketing strategy to publish poorly lit photos and a 
>> very limited description while asking close to what a new custom frame 
>> would cost. Good luck to them.
>>
>> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 4:50:49 AM UTC+2 jerry...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not mine, and no affiliation...  
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/326267399349?_nkw=rivendell&itmmeta=01J7MMBCG047TN7N8NP8RPZGMN&hash=item4bf70d6cb5:g:ilgAAOSw5s1m427V&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJ8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKnREAY8pPh5kA7ur1P59Dxg0WcvD3GUbv0cDHD8%2F3izZbY1o3Tib%2FXHYO3N4sNApbv%2FLHtx4HeqSJbFrccwMVnsrXAu9BheMyWZo%2BqrzC9LNQko2wFUADpWVhG7IQYTcMVxX7eGe0LMSFKjzIoebgBUkqKhUhZnNunacL9FInlu981dPRLI9ENYTM9L3bAhn7AxXBNJRmp321KqqBWqU8Ce7V1AHJ31ITTfsuwC9xtMYBuijIcQbxd8iI%2Fl0hs3WWKlDqo9Ys88ulfMnC3y2Lo2BYl1ZnjdKoJJZNfk16RH%2Bg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4jIrZS9ZA&edge=1
>>> [image: 01.jpg]
>>> [image: 011.jpg]
>>>
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Thank you both!Truly appreciate the responses. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2024, at 6:35 AM, David Ross wrote:I’d also add that the guy who designed the Orthos uses a 25.4 single bolt stem on the Orthos even though they are 26mm. I think he actually designed them to work this way. Personally, I don’t know enough about engineering or metallurgy to know if this is a good or bad idea, so please don’t think I’m advising you to do this. On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 5:05 PM Andrew Joseph wrote:Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.

What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?

The Sam rebuild is almost there. Orthos will be angle down slightly more, bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….

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Re: [RBW] 53cm Bridgestone RB-T $325 plus shipping

2024-09-14 Thread Joe Bernard

Ah, interesting. Only the shifters are Shimano, I stand corrected. 

On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 4:25:16 AM UTC-7 David Hays wrote:

> Suntour and Sakai.
> David Hays
>
> [image: RB-T 11.jpg]
>
> [image: RB-T 12.jpg]
>
> On Sep 14, 2024, at 2:05 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Agreed with Nathan that it's a '91 frame but the original Suntour 
> components are missing. It's hard to see the lettering on the derailleurs 
> but looks to be a 7-speed Shimano group of one LX variation or another, 
> maybe a Sakae crank. As much as I cherish Suntour parts this conversion 
> probably works great and will continue to for a couple more decades. Nice 
> bike! 
>
> Joe Bernard 
> Clearlake CA 
>
> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 2:41:56 PM UTC-7 David Hays wrote:
>
>> t's time to thin the herd. I have a Bridgestone RB-T. I'm not sure what 
>> year it is but it has no rack braze-ons. I have fit a Pletscher rear rack- 
>> the deluxe one Rivendell sold with the pannier mounts- and a VO front rack 
>> with the decaleur mount. I have it set up with the original Nitto Mustache 
>> bar, Shimano bar end shifters and a black Brooks B17 in good shape. It has 
>> almost new H Plus Son rims and Jack Brown Green tires. There are some gaps 
>> in the decals and there are plenty of chips in the paint but not dents or 
>> rust. It just spends too much time on the hook. I can send more photos. Let 
>> me know if you think my price is out of line. Thanks.
>> David Hays
>> Buffalo, New York
>>
>> [image: RB-T 1.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-14 Thread Eliot Balogh

Wow. What a stunning build.

I’m rebuilding a Ram as a roadish bike and this is making me jealous lol.

Eliot

On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 6:33 AM Andrew Joseph 
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> Thank you both!
>
> Truly appreciate the responses.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 14, 2024, at 6:35 AM, David Ross  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I’d also add that the guy who designed the Orthos uses a 25.4 single bolt
> stem on the Orthos even though they are 26mm. I think he actually designed
> them to work this way. Personally, I don’t know enough about engineering or
> metallurgy to know if this is a good or bad idea, so please don’t think I’m
> advising you to do this.
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 5:05 PM Andrew Joseph 
> wrote:
>
>> Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.
>>
>> What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?
>>
>> The Sam rebuild is almost there.  Orthos will be angle down slightly
>> more, bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….
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Re: [RBW] new Crust Heartbreaker crankset: compact double, fun colors

2024-09-14 Thread Johnny Alien

That is how I saw it when I looked at it. Thats why the description points 
out that the outer ring sits in a middle ring position. The ring is not 
inset its built up for nice appearance. I assume any standard ring will 
work mounted in the middle position.

On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-4 in...@brentknepper.com 
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> I dunno, I bet a normie 110 outer ring could work even with the 
> countersink. I wonder if the extra machining, which I first speculated as 
> an offset (ala bikingreen chainrings) to push the ring more inbound, is 
> like actually meant to make the ring have a more "flush" look with the 
> crank spider
>
> I'm curious if the 110 spider configuration is more akin to the Sugino 
> OX601D/Dixna/IRD Lobo type of cranks, where the 110 chainring just sits 
> behind the spider, but then crust wanted to pretty it up a bit with the 
> hearts and some bump-out material for a more flush look?
>
> [image: IRD Lobo Crankarms & BB silv.jpeg]
>
> all of this is just fun conjecture that a 2 minute call to crust might 
> wrap up- but hey, that's the innernet baby!
>
> maybe the funniest thing to do would be: get a blue splatter crust crank. 
> then put an ol bronze suntour 110 chainring or a biopace ring. and maybe a 
> purple ano'd avid microdrive adapter with a 20t inner ring. I won't do this 
> but it's humorous to me to imagine that setup
>
> -brent, having a nice time online ◡̈ 
>
>
> On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 12:40:33 AM UTC-4 dros...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Ah to be young again. These old knees are now on 165mm cranks with 36/22 
>> chainrings. 
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 5:54 PM Brent Knepper  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> from crust bikes, the bicycle company, end'a week email:
>>>
>>> "The Heartbreaker Crankset is our take on a slim arm compact double. We 
>>> drew from the classic Ritchey Logic cranksets to get the slim arm profile 
>>> with a high offset. The high offset in the arms makes it so you can run a 
>>> shorter bottom bracket than with most square taper cranks."
>>>
>>> it's a 2x 42/26 crank, 170 arm length only
>>> the big chainring's dedicated to the *inside* of a 110bcd spider and a 
>>> lil guy on 74bcd inner bolts. square taper and they recommend starting at 
>>> 110/113 spindle length. they say forged aluminum, curious if that's cold 
>>> forged or melt forged? cute heart cutouts ◡̈  silver/black, or blue 
>>> splatter ano or a rich brown, and minimal branding
>>>
>>> $240 though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
>>> 
>>>
>>> [image: unnamed (7).jpg]
>>>
>>> outer chainring setup reminds me of like a mix of the Dixna LA crank 
>>> spider and the Bikingreen chainrings inner offset, with added hearts, but 
>>> the arm shape is hella similar to ol ritchey logiq cranks. wonder what the 
>>> chainline is like on a 110 spindle? prolly can't run these as a triple but 
>>> there's at least one person coming to mind who might take that as a 
>>> challenge
>>>
>>> anyway: fun! interesting! wild to think two new slim, silver, 110bcd 
>>> cranks are coming out in 2024 (these crustinis and the new riv silverers)
>>>
>>> also these are probably the antithesis of all the low-Q experimentations 
>>> going on in the rbw/ibob goog-group world :)
>>>
>>> -Brent, hudval, still chaotically puttin JIS triples on 102mm campy BBs 
>>> jff
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Re: [RBW] Orthos

2024-09-14 Thread Andrew Joseph

Eliot,Than you. All credit to helpful tips, and components from you, and other members here in the group. So stinking helpful.CheersSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Eliot Balogh wrote:Wow. What a stunning build. I’m rebuilding a Ram as a roadish bike and this is making me jealous lol. EliotOn Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 6:33 AM Andrew Joseph wrote:Thank you both!Truly appreciate the responses. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 14, 2024, at 6:35 AM, David Ross wrote:I’d also add that the guy who designed the Orthos uses a 25.4 single bolt stem on the Orthos even though they are 26mm. I think he actually designed them to work this way. Personally, I don’t know enough about engineering or metallurgy to know if this is a good or bad idea, so please don’t think I’m advising you to do this. On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 5:05 PM Andrew Joseph wrote:Bars slippage reports came in at an interesting point for me.

What was the consensus on getting them to stay put?

The Sam rebuild is almost there. Orthos will be angle down slightly more, bar tape and need longer dynamo wires for the Pass and Stow….

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[RBW] Brake levers that clear Silver 2 thumbies

2024-09-14 Thread Kevin

Hi all,

I'm currently using the upside down Shimano method but I'm about to move 
those levers to another bike. Who can help me find some silvery long pull 
levers with a clamp that doesn't interfere with the shifters? 

I know the Pauls do but I'd love a cheaper option if it's out there.

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: CX 50/70 brakes?

2024-09-14 Thread Ted Durant

On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 3:22:50 PM UTC-5 cramer@gmail.com
wrote:

Thoughts? Love them or hate them? I had them on my Atlantis. Took them
off. Couldn't get the straddle cable set up. Suggestions on setup? Thanks

Best canti's ever, though TRP Revos were close. The key features are 1)
road bike shoes, and 2) varying spacers that make them work with any (in
the relevant range) stud spacing and rim width. Also, the ability to
release the springs so easily is a big help.

As noted, you can use them with any straddle cable and hanger, but I have
had no trouble setting them up with their standard hardware. First be sure
you have the right spacers/washers so the pads are contacting the rims with
the shoe-mount arms perpendicular to the ground. Then run the cable
through the round thingie down the plastic tube to the arm with the cable
clamp. You should just be able to fit the "quick release" end of the hanger
into the other brake arm recess, and the plastic tube should cover the
cable all the way to the brake arm. After getting the cable adjusted right
(and not before!) bend the cable out over the little arm at the back of the
round thingie and into the slot between the arm and the round thingie.
(Sorry, that's the best description I can come up with.)

Pad setup is incredibly easy. Release the spring on the side you're
adjusting, so the spring on the other side pulls the pad you're adjusting
to the rim. Loosen the bolt, move the shoe to where you want it, put a
credit card between the trailing end of the pad and the rim, and tighten
the bolt. Replace the spring.

I have them on a 1983 Santana Tandem (first time I've ever had confident
braking on that bike), three Sam Hillbornes, and a Heron Touring. I highly
recommend replacing the stock CX50 shoes with replaceable cartridge shoes
and some good pads. The pads on CX50s are shockingly bad in the wet.

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Re: [RBW] 53cm Bridgestone RB-T $325 plus shipping

2024-09-14 Thread RichS

David, 

Your RB-T is a nice package. Price seems fair to me. If my stable wasn't 
set I would jump on it. Good luck with the sale.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 9:54:07 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ah, interesting. Only the shifters are Shimano, I stand corrected. 
>
> On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 4:25:16 AM UTC-7 David Hays wrote:
>
>> Suntour and Sakai.
>> David Hays
>>
>> [image: RB-T 11.jpg]
>>
>> [image: RB-T 12.jpg]
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2024, at 2:05 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Agreed with Nathan that it's a '91 frame but the original Suntour 
>> components are missing. It's hard to see the lettering on the derailleurs 
>> but looks to be a 7-speed Shimano group of one LX variation or another, 
>> maybe a Sakae crank. As much as I cherish Suntour parts this conversion 
>> probably works great and will continue to for a couple more decades. Nice 
>> bike! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>> Clearlake CA 
>>
>> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 2:41:56 PM UTC-7 David Hays wrote:
>>
>>> t's time to thin the herd. I have a Bridgestone RB-T. I'm not sure what 
>>> year it is but it has no rack braze-ons. I have fit a Pletscher rear rack- 
>>> the deluxe one Rivendell sold with the pannier mounts- and a VO front rack 
>>> with the decaleur mount. I have it set up with the original Nitto Mustache 
>>> bar, Shimano bar end shifters and a black Brooks B17 in good shape. It has 
>>> almost new H Plus Son rims and Jack Brown Green tires. There are some gaps 
>>> in the decals and there are plenty of chips in the paint but not dents or 
>>> rust. It just spends too much time on the hook. I can send more photos. Let 
>>> me know if you think my price is out of line. Thanks.
>>> David Hays
>>> Buffalo, New York
>>>
>>> [image: RB-T 1.jpg]
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: For the N+1 group

2024-09-14 Thread Laing Conley

One more than I can afford.

Laing Conley

On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 5:43 PM Garth  wrote:

> How many bikes does one need ?
>
> That reminds of a classic CBS radio episode called "How Much Land Does A
> Man Need ?"
> It's a about a rich man who has an insatiable appetite for more. So he
> comes to a Indian Chief who offers any man as much land as they can walk on
> in a day. So the rich man sets out and in his quest ignores all signals to
> eat, drink or rest. He's so determined for more, that he croaks while on
> his quest.
> The Chief is then asked, how much land does a man need ?
>  "About six feet"
> Ahahahahahahahaa !!!
>
> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 5:13:48 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I get the joke and the joke is funny, but it doesn't quite apply to the
>> way I operate anymore.  I've got a big stable, and it's still growing, and
>> I have other projects I want to do, so the "IN" door is still open.  I'm
>> not at the place in my life where I take in all free or irresistibly cheap
>> bikes.  I used to be there.  I'm also not at the place in my life where I
>> take in all bikes that I calculate I can flip and make money.  I used to be
>> there, too.
>>
>> So, if my wife asked me that question: "how many bicycles do you need?",
>> then I would probably say "One at a time".  Many "Camera people" have lots
>> of camera equipment. Many people who build their identity around fishing
>> have a lot of fishing equipment.  Many musicians have a substantial
>> collection of various musical equipment.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 11:43:30 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> How many can relate to this?
>>
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[RBW] Rivendell children's bike

2024-09-14 Thread Patrick Moore

I was glad to see a new Blahg:
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/augus-blahg

There otta be a law that Grant has to produce these at least twice monthly
-- it's my second-favorite bicycling screed after Bike Snob.

I would have bought a child's bike, even at $900, particularly at the 2010
dollar equivalent, for my daughter if Rivendell had made them when she was
a child.

With very sloping top tube, a stem with long quill, and reachback bar you
could probably get 6 years growth of of the bike, say age 6 to 12. Before
that, kiddie bikes, after that, multigeared bikes or move on to the iPhone.

After 3 kiddie 3- and 2-wheelers I bought my daughter an Electra Townie 3i*
with coaster brake and 3 speed Shimano hub for her 10th birthday; she loved
it and the even-slacker-than-Rivendell feet-forward geometry let me at 5'
10 " ride it comfortably after raising the saddle. That was a well designed
bike -- well designed for its market.

* That "i." One is gobsmacked (lovely word) by the absolute lack of honest
in marketing. This monicker was obviously meant (this was 2011) to pull
buyers' emotions to feelings of
"internet/digital/modern/advanced/praiseworthy" and get them slavering to
hand over $$. But it was a well designed and well built bike for the demo
and price point.

Does anyone know *who* is trying to legally ban coaster brakes, and what
their alternative is that they hope to sell in the place of coaster brakes?

https://youtu.be/k-tizOwQhMA?t=186

Patrick "Ho Hi, Ho Hi" in ABQ, NM

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[RBW] Re: CX 50/70 brakes?

2024-09-14 Thread RichS

Ted explained the setup perfectly. I ran CX-70s on a previously owned Riv 
and currently have CX-50s on a Mercian. The finish was nicer on the 70s but 
the gray finish on the 50s was not a deal breaker. As Ted noted, the three 
spacers of varying lengths that come with the brakes are a big plus. The 
straddle cable Shimano provides works fine; and yes, lose the stock pads.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 1:23:01 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 3:22:50 PM UTC-5 cramer@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Thoughts? Love them or hate them?  I had them on my Atlantis. Took them 
> off. Couldn't get the straddle cable set up. Suggestions on setup? Thanks 
>
>
> Best canti's ever, though TRP Revos were close. The key features are 1) 
> road bike shoes, and 2) varying spacers that make them work with any (in 
> the relevant range) stud spacing and rim width. Also, the ability to 
> release the springs so easily is a big help.
>
> As noted, you can use them with any straddle cable and hanger, but I have 
> had no trouble setting them up with their standard hardware. First be sure 
> you have the right spacers/washers so the pads are contacting the rims with 
> the  shoe-mount arms perpendicular to the ground. Then run the cable 
> through the round thingie down the plastic tube to the arm with the cable 
> clamp. You should just be able to fit the "quick release" end of the hanger 
> into the other brake arm recess, and the plastic tube should cover the 
> cable all the way to the brake arm. After getting the cable adjusted right 
> (and not before!) bend the cable out over the little arm at the back of the 
> round thingie and into the slot between the arm and the round thingie. 
> (Sorry, that's the best description I can come up with.)
>
> Pad setup is incredibly easy. Release the spring on the side you're 
> adjusting, so the spring on the other side pulls the pad you're adjusting 
> to the rim. Loosen the bolt, move the shoe to where you want it, put a 
> credit card between the trailing end of the pad and the rim, and tighten 
> the bolt. Replace the spring. 
>
> I have them on a 1983 Santana Tandem (first time I've ever had confident 
> braking on that bike), three Sam Hillbornes, and a Heron Touring. I highly 
> recommend replacing the stock CX50 shoes with replaceable cartridge shoes 
> and some good pads. The pads on CX50s are shockingly bad in the wet.  
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: CX 50/70 brakes?

2024-09-14 Thread Ted Durant

On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 12:23:01 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:

Then run the cable through the round thingie down the plastic tube to the 
arm with the cable clamp. 


I took a look at CX50s on Great Lakes Sam and realized the "round thingie" 
is more like a "triangle thingie" with rounded corners. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA 

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[RBW] September Diablo Summit on the RoadUno

2024-09-14 Thread Bill Lindsay

I did my ninth Diablo Summit of 2024 today, once every month and now on 
nine different bikes.  This time I rode my new RoadUno, obviously with 
14-speeds.  It was my first summit of the year on flat pedals and casual 
shoes.  My seat tube mounted rear shifter worked a charm.  The bike 
descends extremely well, and I enjoyed the variety of positions on the 
Choco bars.  I got some funny looks from the East Bay Roadies, but received 
an enthusiastic greeting from a Riv Road rider, and from a guy on a 
Brompton.  

Pics Prove It:

https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53995544180/in/album-72177720313832831
https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53994229127/in/album-72177720313832831/
https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53995356138/in/album-72177720313832831/

So now the "Uno" on my RoadUno signifies it being the first of its model to 
the top of Mount Diablo.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: September Diablo Summit on the RoadUno

2024-09-14 Thread Stephen Durfee

That's awesome - congrats!  Perfect day for it... Meanwhile, I went to Riv 
HQ and took a Roaduno around the block for a few laps...what a fun bike!


On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 3:09:51 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I did my ninth Diablo Summit of 2024 today, once every month and now on 
> nine different bikes.  This time I rode my new RoadUno, obviously with 
> 14-speeds.  It was my first summit of the year on flat pedals and casual 
> shoes.  My seat tube mounted rear shifter worked a charm.  The bike 
> descends extremely well, and I enjoyed the variety of positions on the 
> Choco bars.  I got some funny looks from the East Bay Roadies, but received 
> an enthusiastic greeting from a Riv Road rider, and from a guy on a 
> Brompton.  
>
> Pics Prove It:
>
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53995544180/in/album-72177720313832831
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53994229127/in/album-72177720313832831/
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53995356138/in/album-72177720313832831/
>
> So now the "Uno" on my RoadUno signifies it being the first of its model 
> to the top of Mount Diablo.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: "Rivendell Custom"

2024-09-14 Thread 'Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch


On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 11:24:14 PM UTC-7 John Johnson wrote:

I've got no personal problem if someone wants to sell their bike frame, but 
I find it an odd marketing strategy to publish poorly lit photos and a very 
limited description


Well...  the seller's name is "murkee".

Is that an All-Rounder built for 26" wheels?  At a glance, the brake mounts 
look low to me.  

~pb  

 

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[RBW] Re: September Diablo Summit on the RoadUno

2024-09-14 Thread Ryan

Who cares about those east bay roadies! The shirt matches the chill vibe of 
the bike. Nice!

On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 5:30:50 PM UTC-5 Stephen Durfee wrote:

> That's awesome - congrats!  Perfect day for it... Meanwhile, I went to Riv 
> HQ and took a Roaduno around the block for a few laps...what a fun bike!
>
>
> On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 3:09:51 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I did my ninth Diablo Summit of 2024 today, once every month and now on 
>> nine different bikes.  This time I rode my new RoadUno, obviously with 
>> 14-speeds.  It was my first summit of the year on flat pedals and casual 
>> shoes.  My seat tube mounted rear shifter worked a charm.  The bike 
>> descends extremely well, and I enjoyed the variety of positions on the 
>> Choco bars.  I got some funny looks from the East Bay Roadies, but received 
>> an enthusiastic greeting from a Riv Road rider, and from a guy on a 
>> Brompton.  
>>
>> Pics Prove It:
>>
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53995544180/in/album-72177720313832831
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53994229127/in/album-72177720313832831/
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53995356138/in/album-72177720313832831/
>>
>> So now the "Uno" on my RoadUno signifies it being the first of its model 
>> to the top of Mount Diablo.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] September Diablo Summit on the RoadUno

2024-09-14 Thread Joe Bunik

Next up... 1st Capreo to the Moon? OK... how about 14k feet?

The race is on, pardner! ;-)
Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On Saturday, September 14, 2024, Ryan  wrote:

> Who cares about those east bay roadies! The shirt matches the chill vibe
> of the bike. Nice!
>
> On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 5:30:50 PM UTC-5 Stephen Durfee wrote:
>
>> That's awesome - congrats!  Perfect day for it... Meanwhile, I went to
>> Riv HQ and took a Roaduno around the block for a few laps...what a fun bike!
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 3:09:51 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I did my ninth Diablo Summit of 2024 today, once every month and now on
>>> nine different bikes.  This time I rode my new RoadUno, obviously with
>>> 14-speeds.  It was my first summit of the year on flat pedals and casual
>>> shoes.  My seat tube mounted rear shifter worked a charm.  The bike
>>> descends extremely well, and I enjoyed the variety of positions on the
>>> Choco bars.  I got some funny looks from the East Bay Roadies, but received
>>> an enthusiastic greeting from a Riv Road rider, and from a guy on a
>>> Brompton.
>>>
>>> Pics Prove It:
>>>
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53995544180/in/
>>> album-72177720313832831
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53994229127/in/
>>> album-72177720313832831/
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53995356138/in/
>>> album-72177720313832831/
>>>
>>> So now the "Uno" on my RoadUno signifies it being the first of its model
>>> to the top of Mount Diablo.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
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[RBW] WTB Phil BB tool

2024-09-14 Thread Bernard Duhon

Any of you guys have a phil wood square taper bottom brake tool you would 
sell/rent/lend?

Thanks
Let me know

BTw thanks for passing up the sale of the earlier offer of sale for this BB I 
have now a need for it.


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Re: [RBW] September Diablo Summit on the RoadUno

2024-09-14 Thread Nick A.

To quote one of my Riv-minded west coast heroes,

"APPROVE!!"

Well done. 

Nick in Falls Church

On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 8:35:09 PM UTC-4 jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Next up... 1st Capreo to the Moon? OK... how about 14k feet?
>
> The race is on, pardner! ;-)
> Joe Bunik
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
>
> On Saturday, September 14, 2024, Ryan  wrote:
>
>> Who cares about those east bay roadies! The shirt matches the chill vibe 
>> of the bike. Nice!
>>
>> On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 5:30:50 PM UTC-5 Stephen Durfee wrote:
>>
>>> That's awesome - congrats!  Perfect day for it... Meanwhile, I went to 
>>> Riv HQ and took a Roaduno around the block for a few laps...what a fun bike!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 14, 2024 at 3:09:51 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I did my ninth Diablo Summit of 2024 today, once every month and now on 
 nine different bikes.  This time I rode my new RoadUno, obviously with 
 14-speeds.  It was my first summit of the year on flat pedals and casual 
 shoes.  My seat tube mounted rear shifter worked a charm.  The bike 
 descends extremely well, and I enjoyed the variety of positions on the 
 Choco bars.  I got some funny looks from the East Bay Roadies, but 
 received 
 an enthusiastic greeting from a Riv Road rider, and from a guy on a 
 Brompton.  

 Pics Prove It:


 https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53995544180/in/album-72177720313832831

 https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53994229127/in/album-72177720313832831/

 https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53995356138/in/album-72177720313832831/

 So now the "Uno" on my RoadUno signifies it being the first of its 
 model to the top of Mount Diablo.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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