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[RBW] Re: FS: Buckhorn bags waxed canvas panniers

2024-08-19 Thread Ryan Frahm

Bags are sold! Thank you!

On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 3:36:54 PM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> These are the field tan color, more of a medium dark brown color. I used 
> them for one 4 day trip. Very nice but I need to clear out some gear. I 
> bought extra mini Voile straps for the lower because I didn’t care for the 
> Velcro straps they came with. 
> $225 +shipping. Thanks for looking!
>

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[RBW] Re: Basket on front or in back?

2024-08-19 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

Tough call. I have a bike with each. Whatever you choose will feel a little 
foreign but you’ll get used to it and not think about it anymore. I think I 
like the front basket a bit better, but then you do have the annoyance of a 
front rack that makes your bars swing when parked.

On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 3:22:08 PM UTC-4 James wrote:

> What do ya'll prefer for a basket?  On the front rack on the rear?  I've 
> ridden with both extensively and see an argument for either.  I'm 
> specifically asking regarding long wheelbases & heavy loads

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-08-19 Thread Diana H

Steve - yes, it is a custom bag. I found this person on Etsy  
and I think 
they did a really good job. I do find myself a little silly for using this 
custom bag on tours as it takes away from the whole point of having a 
step-through. But to be able to reach down and grab out snacks immediately 
is a worthy trade to me!

Piaw - I should have preferenced with saying it felt twitchy compared to 
the Platy (my only Riv), but Jim explained it well. I bet the Roadini still 
feels better than most road bikes out there, but compared to the Platy, 
when I turned that steering wheel it moved fast/felt twitchy. Also the 
Homer > Roadini was at the advice of James from Riv HQ (and I agree). I 
think all Riv bikes can do more than they should (agree with Jason), and 
I'm sure a 12 year old can really tear it up. Lucky for him to get a Riv so 
early!

Leah - yes probably haha. I am discovering fast that only have 1 Riv isn't 
cutting it! I had thought the Platy would be my one and only bike but here 
I am mulling over Homers, Atlantis's and Appaloosas... I'm sure I'll have 
more Riv's in my future when the timing works out.

Diana
San Francisco
On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 9:30:30 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Agree that steering feel is largely about what's familiar. Rivs have a 
> pretty characteristic steering feel that is light yet stable, owing to 
> Grant's focus on keeping a consistent trail among the models and sizes.  I 
> definitely agree the Homer is perfectly capable of being a speedy club ride 
> bike up until carbon aero bikes are warranted, while providing a little 
> more versatility over the Roadini, but I'd go Roadini if being a pavement 
> club ride bike is its whole job 
>
> On Sunday 18 August 2024 at 20:13:30 UTC-7 Jim M. wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 6:02:08 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Having test ridden both Roadini and Homers, they're anything but twitchy. 
>>
>>
>> In my experience, handling is a subjective judgement. One person's nimble 
>> is another's twitchy, and you can't make a blanket statement that a certain 
>> bike isn't twitchy. It wouldn't surprise me if someone who rides Platys or 
>> Susies finds a Homer twitchy. I used to ride a 3Rensho and find all my Rivs 
>> stable in comparison. Of course, I also think that after spending some time 
>> on a Homer, one's subjective experience of its handling could possibly 
>> change.
>>
>> happy trails
>> jim m
>> walnut creek
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Triple cranks for 9-speed build: advise me

2024-08-19 Thread Peter White

I have Stronglight Impact crank arms in stock for $120 the pair, and
cranksets for $190.

PJW

On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 3:26 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> "Silver is a little too spendy for me"
>
> Silver arms only retail for $190.  What do you want to pay for Silvers?
> I've got two sets of 173mm arms only that I could conceivably let go. If
> you want used Silvers for less than those $50 Dimensions that Garth was
> promoting, then I'd keep mine.  :).
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 10:07:46 AM UTC-7 smer...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am putting together an Atlantis for touring/long rides/light trail use.
>>
>> I am thinking of using a new Velo Orange fluted triple or perhaps picking
>> up a used Shimano XTR M900.
>>
>> Silver is a little too spendy for me, and I given that am built like a
>> tank and ride accordingly, think the Clipper/New Albion triples might not
>> be hardy enough.
>>
>> I figured if anyone would have an informed opinion on this crucial
>> matter, it would be this bunch. What would you do?
>>
>> smm
>>
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[RBW] Re: Triple cranks for 9-speed build: advise me

2024-08-19 Thread Spencer Robinson

I agree with Cal…if you are not to fussy about blemishes, you can find a 
good used set.

On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 5:49:36 PM UTC-4 Cal Patterson wrote:

> Shimano m730 is about as good as it gets for my eyes.  Or mt-60.  Or 
> Sugino AT, or VT, or the Ritchey ones...
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 1:35:16 PM UTC-7 dros...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm running vintage Ritchey's on my Gus and they work just fine. I just 
>> sold a vintage Deore triple on Ebay for $10.50 from a Covid build that I 
>> ended up not doing. They were absolutely perfect with just a little 
>> cosmetic wear. It's hard to beat a decent vintage square taper so long as 
>> the tapers are still in good shape. The only reason I'd probably buy a new 
>> crank for a Riv build is if I wanted crank arms shorter than 170mm. 
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 3:26:38 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> "Silver is a little too spendy for me"
>>>
>>> Silver arms only retail for $190.  What do you want to pay for Silvers? 
>>>  I've got two sets of 173mm arms only that I could conceivably let go. If 
>>> you want used Silvers for less than those $50 Dimensions that Garth was 
>>> promoting, then I'd keep mine.  :). 
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 10:07:46 AM UTC-7 smer...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I am putting together an Atlantis for touring/long rides/light trail 
 use.

 I am thinking of using a new Velo Orange fluted triple or perhaps 
 picking up a used Shimano XTR M900. 

 Silver is a little too spendy for me, and I given that am built like a 
 tank and ride accordingly, think the Clipper/New Albion triples might not 
 be hardy enough.

 I figured if anyone would have an informed opinion on this crucial 
 matter, it would be this bunch. What would you do?

 smm

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Triple cranks for 9-speed build: advise me

2024-08-19 Thread Gene B

I'm running a Sugino AT on my Clem, and building up my Atlantis with a 
mid-late 80s Specialized ST (Flag) crankset (also produced by Sugino). Got 
both of 'em on good ol' FeeBay and were around the $80-90 range for each.

On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 8:13:03 AM UTC-5 peter...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have Stronglight Impact crank arms in stock for $120 the pair, and 
> cranksets for $190.
>
> PJW
>
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 3:26 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> "Silver is a little too spendy for me"
>>
>> Silver arms only retail for $190.  What do you want to pay for Silvers?  
>> I've got two sets of 173mm arms only that I could conceivably let go. If 
>> you want used Silvers for less than those $50 Dimensions that Garth was 
>> promoting, then I'd keep mine.  :). 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 10:07:46 AM UTC-7 smer...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I am putting together an Atlantis for touring/long rides/light trail use.
>>>
>>> I am thinking of using a new Velo Orange fluted triple or perhaps 
>>> picking up a used Shimano XTR M900. 
>>>
>>> Silver is a little too spendy for me, and I given that am built like a 
>>> tank and ride accordingly, think the Clipper/New Albion triples might not 
>>> be hardy enough.
>>>
>>> I figured if anyone would have an informed opinion on this crucial 
>>> matter, it would be this bunch. What would you do?
>>>
>>> smm
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Basket on front or in back?

2024-08-19 Thread Marc Irwin

On the rear for a mixte because the extra stays stabilize the weight when 
it's loaded and you don't have to raise your leg over it.  The front for 
diamond frame.

Marc

On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 8:29:31 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Tough call. I have a bike with each. Whatever you choose will feel a 
> little foreign but you’ll get used to it and not think about it anymore. I 
> think I like the front basket a bit better, but then you do have the 
> annoyance of a front rack that makes your bars swing when parked.
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 3:22:08 PM UTC-4 James wrote:
>
>> What do ya'll prefer for a basket?  On the front rack on the rear?  I've 
>> ridden with both extensively and see an argument for either.  I'm 
>> specifically asking regarding long wheelbases & heavy loads
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr vs Polyvalent Lowkicker?

2024-08-19 Thread DJC

Paul,

I own both the Polyvalent and the Clem Smith H; I've also built up for 
others the Polyvalent low-kicker and the Clem L. The Clem has a laid back, 
swoopy feel; it's equally comfortable on the road or in the dirt, whereas 
the Polyvalent feels snappier and more nimble. That's doesn't mean the Clem 
is sluggish, but rather it's not as "fast" handling as the Poly. I'm 
selling my Polyvalent because it's too close to other bikes in my stable; 
the Clem is a forever bike for me. Another consideration will be the fit; 
the Clem has a very generous headtube / stack compared to the Polyvalent, 
plus with the Clem you get the advantage of the quill stem for setting the 
front-end height

Both are lovely bikes, but very different in design and riding 
characteristics. Remember that the Polyvalent is a "low-trail" bike, but to 
the higher end of the range, which makes it more neutral in handling 
compared to low low-trail bikes. It handles a front load better than a rear 
load, but still manages a light rear load well. The Clem is a rear loader 
primarily, and capable of a light front load. I've chosen the Clem because 
it's become a groovy analog trail bike that compliments my Gus Boots 
nicely. However, I did have the Clem build as a city commuter for a couple 
of years and it was very capable.

Best, 
Dave

On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 9:25:38 PM UTC-4 paulje...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: Screenshot 2024-08-18 at 5.41.07 PM.png]Hello-
>
> I'm considering getting a step-thru bike for my partner. She's pregnant 
> and her normal touring bike is feeling less and less comfortable. We're 
> looking at the size 64 Clem Smith Jr or the XL Velo Orange Polyvalent 
> Lowkicker. She's 6'3 with 97 PBH.
>
> I was wondering if anyone here might be able to say how the ride quality 
> might be different on the two bikes? Or if there are reasons I should 
> consider one over the other?
>
> We mostly ride on pavement on country roads and the occasional dirt/gravel 
> road. The Clem looks longer which I imagine would make it more stable? I 
> imagine this might be nice if we eventually put a baby seat on the back. 
>
> The Polyvalent Lowkicker uses 650b wheels and I'm a little concerned with 
> toe overlap as it looks like a shorter wheelbase. I know the Polyvalent 
> uses more modern standards like thru axles and disc brakes for better or 
> worse. I like that the Polyvalent is a bit more affordable but the 
> Rivendell seems like more of a classic. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.
>
> Thanks!
> Paul
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr vs Polyvalent Lowkicker?

2024-08-19 Thread Chris Halasz

I assume someone pregnant prefers a more upright position, irrespective of 
its declared benefits to the health of one's pelvic floor (important to me, 
anyway), and overall spinal and wrist comfort (subjective, I suppose). It 
makes sense then to extend the chainstay, and so proportionately the 
overall triangle from the center of mass of the more upright cyclist and 
the bicycle wheelbase. 

Likewise, it makes more sense for the cyclist who rides low and in the 
drops to ride a shorter chainstay and so a shorter wheelbase than the Clem. 

At barely 6'1", with an 89cm PBH, my 64cm Clem L has a more accessible 
'step-through' than my 60cm Platypus, and, to me, the Platypus appears to 
have much more step-through access than the Lowkicker. I don't see how one 
could really step through the Lowkicker without considerably tilting the 
bike. 

- Chris 
On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-7 DJC wrote:

> Paul,
>
> I own both the Polyvalent and the Clem Smith H; I've also built up for 
> others the Polyvalent low-kicker and the Clem L. The Clem has a laid back, 
> swoopy feel; it's equally comfortable on the road or in the dirt, whereas 
> the Polyvalent feels snappier and more nimble. That's doesn't mean the Clem 
> is sluggish, but rather it's not as "fast" handling as the Poly. I'm 
> selling my Polyvalent because it's too close to other bikes in my stable; 
> the Clem is a forever bike for me. Another consideration will be the fit; 
> the Clem has a very generous headtube / stack compared to the Polyvalent, 
> plus with the Clem you get the advantage of the quill stem for setting the 
> front-end height
>
> Both are lovely bikes, but very different in design and riding 
> characteristics. Remember that the Polyvalent is a "low-trail" bike, but to 
> the higher end of the range, which makes it more neutral in handling 
> compared to low low-trail bikes. It handles a front load better than a rear 
> load, but still manages a light rear load well. The Clem is a rear loader 
> primarily, and capable of a light front load. I've chosen the Clem because 
> it's become a groovy analog trail bike that compliments my Gus Boots 
> nicely. However, I did have the Clem build as a city commuter for a couple 
> of years and it was very capable.
>
> Best, 
> Dave
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 9:25:38 PM UTC-4 paulje...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: Screenshot 2024-08-18 at 5.41.07 PM.png]Hello-
>>
>> I'm considering getting a step-thru bike for my partner. She's pregnant 
>> and her normal touring bike is feeling less and less comfortable. We're 
>> looking at the size 64 Clem Smith Jr or the XL Velo Orange Polyvalent 
>> Lowkicker. She's 6'3 with 97 PBH.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone here might be able to say how the ride quality 
>> might be different on the two bikes? Or if there are reasons I should 
>> consider one over the other?
>>
>> We mostly ride on pavement on country roads and the occasional 
>> dirt/gravel road. The Clem looks longer which I imagine would make it more 
>> stable? I imagine this might be nice if we eventually put a baby seat on 
>> the back. 
>>
>> The Polyvalent Lowkicker uses 650b wheels and I'm a little concerned with 
>> toe overlap as it looks like a shorter wheelbase. I know the Polyvalent 
>> uses more modern standards like thru axles and disc brakes for better or 
>> worse. I like that the Polyvalent is a bit more affordable but the 
>> Rivendell seems like more of a classic. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

2024-08-19 Thread john Bokman

Good question Corwin…I too like the looks of this one (my size). Other thing 
I’d be wanting to swap out would be the crankset. While I’m a fan of triples, 
I’m not too keen on the long bottom bracket spindle that is needed on the VO 
triple. Nor am I a fan of the big chainring tooth-count. But its a nice looking 
ride, for sure! I’m sure someone on the list could make it sing.

John
Portland, OR

> On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Corwin Zechar  wrote:
> 
> This listing got me really excited. Looking at the pictures, this Atlantis 
> appears to be wearing Shimano V-brakes and a nice pair of Origin8 road 
> levers. I use drop bar levers almost exclusively (my lone upright bar lever 
> is a Paul for the Klamper on the rear wheel of my Hubbuhubbuh). So I was 
> thrilled to see drop bar levers paired with V-brakes. My tandem currently has 
> the Tektro long-pull levers for drop bars.
> 
> But Origin8 says their road levers are short-pull.
> 
> Wonder if this guy actually rides this Atlantis like this...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Corwin
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 8:59:05 AM UTC-7 Jeffery S wrote:
> Rivendell Atlantis - $2,400 (Denver)
> 
> https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/d/denver-rivendell-atlantis/7773388159.html 
> 
> 
> Not mine and no relation
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 7:02:27 AM UTC-6 Josh C wrote:
> 53cm Susie that looks nicely appointed. 
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/belmont-rivendell-susie-53/7772593945.html
>  
> 
> 
> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 8:48:25 PM UTC-4 Chris Halasz wrote:
> 63cm Soma San Marcos bicycle - $600 (Carmel)
> 
> https://monterey.craigslist.org/bik/d/carmel-by-the-sea-soma-san-marcos/7772195224.html
>  
> 
> 
> On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 10:36:55 PM UTC-7 Corwin Zechar wrote:
> Hi Philip -
> 
> I have a Roadeo waiting for paint. The claimed tire clearance for Roadeos is 
> 33mm (basically a Jack Brown tire) as I recall. I'm reasonably sure I could 
> put a 35mm tire on a relatively wide rim and make it work without fenders.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Corwin
> 
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 2:04:48 PM UTC-7 philip@gmail.com <> wrote:
> I so badly wish this was a 58/59. Hell, even 60!
> 
> This is exactly what I want to be riding this summer!
> 
> What size tire will it clear? 28s?
> 
> 
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207 
> ~
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2024, at 1:19 PM, donavanm > wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> 
>> On Friday, July 5, 2024 at 5:05:32 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>> 63cm Roadeo. Don't see these every day. Good price IMO. 
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-roadeo-63cm-black-and/7763433686.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  This is mine. I can provide more photos if anyones interested, or a test 
>> ride in seattle. As mentioned i just dont ride it these days.
>> 
>> I also have a 61cm simpleone that Ill be listing once I take some pics 
>> tomorrow. Im keeping my quickbeam, and Ill be down to 7 other bikes…
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

2024-08-19 Thread Mike Godwin

sheese, my size too.

Mike SLO CA

On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 9:33:48 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:

> Good question Corwin…I too like the looks of this one (my size). Other 
> thing I’d be wanting to swap out would be the crankset. While I’m a fan of 
> triples, I’m not too keen on the long bottom bracket spindle that is needed 
> on the VO triple. Nor am I a fan of the big chainring tooth-count. But its 
> a nice looking ride, for sure! I’m sure someone on the list could make it 
> sing.
>
> John
> Portland, OR
>
> On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Corwin Zechar  wrote:
>
> This listing got me really excited. Looking at the pictures, this Atlantis 
> appears to be wearing Shimano V-brakes and a nice pair of Origin8 road 
> levers. I use drop bar levers almost exclusively (my lone upright bar lever 
> is a Paul for the Klamper on the rear wheel of my Hubbuhubbuh). So I was 
> thrilled to see drop bar levers paired with V-brakes. My tandem currently 
> has the Tektro long-pull levers for drop bars.
>
> But Origin8 says their road levers are short-pull.
>
> Wonder if this guy actually rides this Atlantis like this...
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Corwin
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 8:59:05 AM UTC-7 Jeffery S wrote:
>
>> Rivendell Atlantis - $2,400 (Denver)
>>
>>
>> https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/d/denver-rivendell-atlantis/7773388159.html
>>
>> Not mine and no relation
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 7:02:27 AM UTC-6 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> 53cm Susie that looks nicely appointed. 
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/belmont-rivendell-susie-53/7772593945.html
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 8:48:25 PM UTC-4 Chris Halasz wrote:
>>>
 63cm Soma San Marcos bicycle - $600 (Carmel)


 https://monterey.craigslist.org/bik/d/carmel-by-the-sea-soma-san-marcos/7772195224.html

 On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 10:36:55 PM UTC-7 Corwin Zechar wrote:

> Hi Philip -
>
> I have a Roadeo waiting for paint. The claimed tire clearance for 
> Roadeos is 33mm (basically a Jack Brown tire) as I recall. I'm reasonably 
> sure I could put a 35mm tire on a relatively wide rim and make it work 
> without fenders.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Corwin
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 2:04:48 PM UTC-7 philip@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I so badly wish this was a 58/59. Hell, even 60!
>>
>> This is exactly what I want to be riding this summer!
>>
>> What size tire will it clear? 28s?
>>
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2024, at 1:19 PM, donavanm  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 5, 2024 at 5:05:32 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>>
>> 63cm Roadeo. Don't see these every day. Good price IMO. 
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-roadeo-63cm-black-and/7763433686.html
>>
>>
>>  This is mine. I can provide more photos if anyones interested, or a 
>> test ride in seattle. As mentioned i just dont ride it these days.
>>
>> I also have a 61cm simpleone that Ill be listing once I take some 
>> pics tomorrow. Im keeping my quickbeam, and Ill be down to 7 other bikes…
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-08-19 Thread 藍俊彪

>
>
>
> Piaw - I should have preferenced with saying it felt twitchy compared to
> the Platy (my only Riv), but Jim explained it well. I bet the Roadini still
> feels better than most road bikes out there, but compared to the Platy,
> when I turned that steering wheel it moved fast/felt twitchy. Also the
> Homer > Roadini was at the advice of James from Riv HQ (and I agree). I
> think all Riv bikes can do more than they should (agree with Jason), and
> I'm sure a 12 year old can really tear it up. Lucky for him to get a Riv so
> early!
>

I wouldn't be surprised if what you're feeling is the difference between
super-wide (and possibly heavy) tires and whatever narrower higher quality
tires that are on the Roadini/Homer. When I was making a decision between
the Homer and the Roadini, Grant pointed out that the Homer wouldn't work
well for me as it's too long to fit into a bike box to bring on a plane for
touring. That's the practical difference between the Homer and the Roadini
(that and I had a collection of 130mm wheels that wouldn't work with the
Homer). My wife owns a Cheviot, and it is a sedate ride compared to a
Roadini, but here's what "twitchy" means. If you ride down Diablo (or any
of the Bay Area hills with serious grades) under less than ideal conditions
on broken pavement, when the road is smooth you don't ever turn the
handlebars --- you just lean the bike and the bike will steer around the
corners. On something like a Cheviot/Platypus, you have to counter-steer to
get the bike to lean around a corner. That's the difference between the
road bike and the hybrid intended for toodling around unchallenging roads.
An example that I like to point out is there Canyon line of road bikes like
the Ultimate with their 70mm trail. For reference a motorcycle has an 80mm
trail. Those bikes work for German terrain where even their alpine passes
have barely any corners that cannot be taken at speed in a giant SUV. Take
them to a typical Bay Area road and you'll find yourself wrestling the bike
to get it to corner. You'll get used to it (people do buy Canyons in the
Bay Area), but if you ride a Canyon and a Rivendell Roadini back to back
the difference is immediately obvious and it's clear which bike was
designed for Bay Area roads.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr vs Polyvalent Lowkicker?

2024-08-19 Thread Richard Rose

I’ve used a Wald basket mounted to a Tumbleweed “T” rack on the front of my Clem L & the rear of my Gus. In both cases I also utilized the triple mounts of the rack to support King “many things” cages to hold my fork mounted bags. The front wheel flop on the Clem was far more noticeable than any tail wag on the Gus. Having said that, neither bothered me much. Both bikes handled the load well.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 19, 2024, at 11:17 AM, Chris Halasz wrote:I assume someone pregnant prefers a more upright position, irrespective of its declared benefits to the health of one's pelvic floor (important to me, anyway), and overall spinal and wrist comfort (subjective, I suppose). It makes sense then to extend the chainstay, and so proportionately the overall triangle from the center of mass of the more upright cyclist and the bicycle wheelbase. Likewise, it makes more sense for the cyclist who rides low and in the drops to ride a shorter chainstay and so a shorter wheelbase than the Clem. At barely 6'1", with an 89cm PBH, my 64cm Clem L has a more accessible 'step-through' than my 60cm Platypus, and, to me, the Platypus appears to have much more step-through access than the Lowkicker. I don't see how one could really step through the Lowkicker without considerably tilting the bike. - Chris On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-7 DJC wrote:Paul,I own both the Polyvalent and the Clem Smith H; I've also built up for others the Polyvalent low-kicker and the Clem L. The Clem has a laid back, swoopy feel; it's equally comfortable on the road or in the dirt, whereas the Polyvalent feels snappier and more nimble. That's doesn't mean the Clem is sluggish, but rather it's not as "fast" handling as the Poly. I'm selling my Polyvalent because it's too close to other bikes in my stable; the Clem is a forever bike for me. Another consideration will be the fit; the Clem has a very generous headtube / stack compared to the Polyvalent, plus with the Clem you get the advantage of the quill stem for setting the front-end heightBoth are lovely bikes, but very different in design and riding characteristics. Remember that the Polyvalent is a "low-trail" bike, but to the higher end of the range, which makes it more neutral in handling compared to low low-trail bikes. It handles a front load better than a rear load, but still manages a light rear load well. The Clem is a rear loader primarily, and capable of a light front load. I've chosen the Clem because it's become a groovy analog trail bike that compliments my Gus Boots nicely. However, I did have the Clem build as a city commuter for a couple of years and it was very capable.Best, DaveOn Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 9:25:38 PM UTC-4 paulje...@gmail.com wrote:Hello-I'm considering getting a step-thru bike for my partner. She's pregnant and her normal touring bike is feeling less and less comfortable. We're looking at the size 64 Clem Smith Jr or the XL Velo Orange Polyvalent Lowkicker. She's 6'3 with 97 PBH.I was wondering if anyone here might be able to say how the ride quality might be different on the two bikes? Or if there are reasons I should consider one over the other?We mostly ride on pavement on country roads and the occasional dirt/gravel road. The Clem looks longer which I imagine would make it more stable? I imagine this might be nice if we eventually put a baby seat on the back. The Polyvalent Lowkicker uses 650b wheels and I'm a little concerned with toe overlap as it looks like a shorter wheelbase. I know the Polyvalent uses more modern standards like thru axles and disc brakes for better or worse. I like that the Polyvalent is a bit more affordable but the Rivendell seems like more of a classic. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.Thanks!Paul

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[RBW] Quickbeam vs. Roaduno?

2024-08-19 Thread Andrew Janjigian

I have a first or second-run green Quickbeam that has been my main ride for 
the last 15 years. I stopped commuting to work in 2020 and sort of got out 
of the habit of riding for fun, but I've recently decided I want to get 
back into it. 

I've had the frame repainted twice already, and it is in need of another 
one. I'm trying to decide now whether to:

a) sell the frame as-is and get a Roaduno
b) repaint the frame and rebuild it (maybe in a new color)

I've spoken to Will and he says he prefers the ride of the Roaduno to the 
Quickbeam, but I'm still not sure exactly *why*. Does anyone have any intel 
or thoughts on how it compares? 

I should say that I do ride the QB fixed, and I am aware the Roaduno is 
problematic as a fixie, but I am not worried about that, since I use short 
cranks (150mm) and fat tires (43mm).

Also: Would anyone be interested in a 56 Quickbeam frameset, should I 
decide to sell? I can't imagine I could recoup the cost of refinishing it 
and still make enough to cover some of the cost of a new frame.

- Andrew


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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam vs. Roaduno?

2024-08-19 Thread Old And In The Weeds

Sounds like a cool ride. Any pictures?

On Monday, August 19, 2024, Andrew Janjigian  wrote:

> I have a first or second-run green Quickbeam that has been my main ride
> for the last 15 years. I stopped commuting to work in 2020 and sort of got
> out of the habit of riding for fun, but I've recently decided I want to get
> back into it.
>
> I've had the frame repainted twice already, and it is in need of another
> one. I'm trying to decide now whether to:
>
> a) sell the frame as-is and get a Roaduno
> b) repaint the frame and rebuild it (maybe in a new color)
>
> I've spoken to Will and he says he prefers the ride of the Roaduno to the
> Quickbeam, but I'm still not sure exactly *why*. Does anyone have any
> intel or thoughts on how it compares?
>
> I should say that I do ride the QB fixed, and I am aware the Roaduno is
> problematic as a fixie, but I am not worried about that, since I use short
> cranks (150mm) and fat tires (43mm).
>
> Also: Would anyone be interested in a 56 Quickbeam frameset, should I
> decide to sell? I can't imagine I could recoup the cost of refinishing it
> and still make enough to cover some of the cost of a new frame.
>
> - Andrew
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: 52cm Clem Smith Jr - Orange - some upgrades!

2024-08-19 Thread Kim H.

@Igor,
I ask "why ?" as well. 
Did you wife not like it ? ... or is the Clem your bike ?

Kim Hetzel. 

On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 10:16:05 AM UTC-7 Richard Rose wrote:

> Igor, WHY? It’s really nice & you just got it. Nice 5’th season bag too.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 19, 2024, at 12:14 PM, Igor  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Great condition, minor mileage. 
>
> Added fenders (SKS) to it and a rear rack (Nitto R14). It's got a Paul 
> thumbie mount on the right (flipped) with a Shimano thumbie, and I swapped 
> the rear derailleur to a Deore 9spd instead of the SunRace the bike came 
> with.  I've also swapped for Choco bars, and added a bell. Brake levers are 
> Dia Compe MX-2, v-brakes are Alivio. No seat!
>
> If this was in stock from Riv, it'd cost you $2400 shipped with a lot less 
> parts.
>
> I am asking $2200 plus shipping. If you want it returned to stock..I can 
> do that, for a lower price, but I think this is worth the cost :)
>
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs. Roaduno?

2024-08-19 Thread Minh

IIRC, aren't there a few big differences between QB and Roaduno in terms of 
brake choices, tire clearance?  what about the QB do you not like that you 
think Roduno would provide?  i've not ridden one but what i've read says 
its like a QB with a little modern touches (rack bosses, etc).   


On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 2:08:39 PM UTC-4 ajanj...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a first or second-run green Quickbeam that has been my main ride 
> for the last 15 years. I stopped commuting to work in 2020 and sort of got 
> out of the habit of riding for fun, but I've recently decided I want to get 
> back into it. 
>
> I've had the frame repainted twice already, and it is in need of another 
> one. I'm trying to decide now whether to:
>
> a) sell the frame as-is and get a Roaduno
> b) repaint the frame and rebuild it (maybe in a new color)
>
> I've spoken to Will and he says he prefers the ride of the Roaduno to the 
> Quickbeam, but I'm still not sure exactly *why*. Does anyone have any 
> intel or thoughts on how it compares? 
>
> I should say that I do ride the QB fixed, and I am aware the Roaduno is 
> problematic as a fixie, but I am not worried about that, since I use short 
> cranks (150mm) and fat tires (43mm).
>
> Also: Would anyone be interested in a 56 Quickbeam frameset, should I 
> decide to sell? I can't imagine I could recoup the cost of refinishing it 
> and still make enough to cover some of the cost of a new frame.
>
> - Andrew
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: 52cm Clem Smith Jr - Orange - some upgrades!

2024-08-19 Thread Igor

This is mine, and yes, I do not "like" it for the third time. I know a lot 
of you enjoy these bikes, but for me they're too upright and too slow ;)

(Also I have many other bikes that I ride instead)

On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 2:19:10 PM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

> @Igor,
> I ask "why ?" as well. 
> Did you wife not like it ? ... or is the Clem your bike ?
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 10:16:05 AM UTC-7 Richard Rose wrote:
>
>> Igor, WHY? It’s really nice & you just got it. Nice 5’th season bag too.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2024, at 12:14 PM, Igor  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Great condition, minor mileage. 
>>
>> Added fenders (SKS) to it and a rear rack (Nitto R14). It's got a Paul 
>> thumbie mount on the right (flipped) with a Shimano thumbie, and I swapped 
>> the rear derailleur to a Deore 9spd instead of the SunRace the bike came 
>> with.  I've also swapped for Choco bars, and added a bell. Brake levers are 
>> Dia Compe MX-2, v-brakes are Alivio. No seat!
>>
>> If this was in stock from Riv, it'd cost you $2400 shipped with a lot 
>> less parts.
>>
>> I am asking $2200 plus shipping. If you want it returned to stock..I can 
>> do that, for a lower price, but I think this is worth the cost :)
>>
>> [image: 455470173_1658195544721136_5851613962744969238_n.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-08-19 Thread Ted Durant

> On Aug 19, 2024, at 12:10 PM, Piaw Na(藍俊彪)  wrote:
>> 
> I wouldn't be surprised if what you're feeling is the difference between 
> super-wide (and possibly heavy) tires and whatever narrower higher quality 
> tires that are on the Roadini/Homer.

My guess is it’s the combination of that, the massive difference in wheelbase, 
and the rider position (in particular where the center of gravity lies between 
the wheels). All three will have a very large impact on perceived handling. 
Diana didn’t mention how the Homer she rode was set up … drop bars or upright … 
and that would be important. All else equal, a more upright position moves the 
weight backward, unweighting the front wheel, making the steering response 
lighter/twitchier. I was shocked at how much the handling of my Quickbeam 
changed when I went from drop to upright bars. 

> here's what "twitchy" means. If you ride down Diablo (or any of the Bay Area 
> hills with serious grades) under less than ideal conditions on broken 
> pavement, when the road is smooth you don't ever turn the handlebars --- you 
> just lean the bike and the bike will steer around the corners. On something 
> like a Cheviot/Platypus, you have to counter-steer to get the bike to lean 
> around a corner.

That definition doesn’t quite work for me. Leaning the bike, that is to say, 
initiating a lean on a two-wheel vehicle, _is_ countersteering. In my 
experience, twitchiness is a matter of how much countersteering effort is 
required to initiate a marginal increase in lean, and how much change in 
turning radius you get for a marginal increase in lean. Less effort and a 
greater amount of change in turning radius is more responsive/twitchy/unstable. 
 It is also very different depending on your speed. I’ve accompanied many 
people on bike-finding missions, and _always_ their first impression of how the 
bike handles is derived from the first two pedal strokes, when they are just 
getting going. Those people describe low-trail bikes as scary twitchy, but in 
actual riding conditions other than just starting and just before stopping, 
low-trail bikes are much more stable feeling to me. I first discovered this in 
the 70’s when I compared the Fujis that I sold, rode, and loved, to the 
Motobecanes and Raleighs that my friends rode and loved. My Fuji S-12S, it 
turns out, had 40 mm of trail, compared to probably mid-50’s or more for the 
others. 

> For reference a motorcycle has an 80mm trail.

Motorcycles can have a pretty wide range of trail, but 80mm would be short for 
a motorcycle. My Moto Guzzi V7 had around 104mm of trail.  Current Honda specs 
range from 99 on their light, small displacement sport bike to 109 on their 
big, heavy touring bike. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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Re: [RBW] FS: 52cm Clem Smith Jr - Orange - some upgrades!

2024-08-19 Thread Kim H.

@Igor,
Thank-you for letting us know the whole picture. 

Kim Hetzel.

On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 11:30:43 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:

> This is mine, and yes, I do not "like" it for the third time. I know a lot 
> of you enjoy these bikes, but for me they're too upright and too slow ;)
>
> (Also I have many other bikes that I ride instead)
>
> On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 2:19:10 PM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Igor,
>> I ask "why ?" as well. 
>> Did you wife not like it ? ... or is the Clem your bike ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>
>> On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 10:16:05 AM UTC-7 Richard Rose wrote:
>>
>>> Igor, WHY? It’s really nice & you just got it. Nice 5’th season bag too.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2024, at 12:14 PM, Igor  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Great condition, minor mileage. 
>>>
>>> Added fenders (SKS) to it and a rear rack (Nitto R14). It's got a Paul 
>>> thumbie mount on the right (flipped) with a Shimano thumbie, and I swapped 
>>> the rear derailleur to a Deore 9spd instead of the SunRace the bike came 
>>> with.  I've also swapped for Choco bars, and added a bell. Brake levers are 
>>> Dia Compe MX-2, v-brakes are Alivio. No seat!
>>>
>>> If this was in stock from Riv, it'd cost you $2400 shipped with a lot 
>>> less parts.
>>>
>>> I am asking $2200 plus shipping. If you want it returned to stock..I can 
>>> do that, for a lower price, but I think this is worth the cost :)
>>>
>>> [image: 455470173_1658195544721136_5851613962744969238_n.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs. Roaduno?

2024-08-19 Thread Bill Lindsay

I think they are very different bikes.  Different enough that the smart 
move would be to own one of each.  I'm getting a Roaduno (just got off the 
phone with Rich to try to arrange the pick up, and I have a 58cm Quickbeam. 
 Here's my attitude towards the differences.  

The Quickbeam is basically a civilized 1998 single speed road bike. 
 Civilized because you can get the bars a little higher than a 1998 road 
racing bike.  Civilized because it takes ~40mm tires and fenders.  In my 
view it is made for drop bars.  Speaking just for myself, there's no way I 
would ever set up a Quickbeam with a swept back handlebar.  The Roaduno is 
a more evolved Rivendell long bike.  It's longer, swoopier and is made for 
swept back bars.  It's going to be more stable and relaxed and less like a 
1998 road bike.  

Both bikes are cool.  Both bikes are fun.  But they are very different from 
each other.  Neither one is an enhancement of the other.  If you love the 
Quickbeam and want a better Quickbeam, stay put.  If you've outgrown your 
Quickbeam, maybe the Roaduno could be a good move.  The most vocal gripe 
about the Roaduno is the side pull brakes.  Many people called that a "deal 
killer" for them.  I think those people wanted a single speed Appaloosa, 
not a single speed Hilsen.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 11:08:39 AM UTC-7 ajanj...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a first or second-run green Quickbeam that has been my main ride 
> for the last 15 years. I stopped commuting to work in 2020 and sort of got 
> out of the habit of riding for fun, but I've recently decided I want to get 
> back into it. 
>
> I've had the frame repainted twice already, and it is in need of another 
> one. I'm trying to decide now whether to:
>
> a) sell the frame as-is and get a Roaduno
> b) repaint the frame and rebuild it (maybe in a new color)
>
> I've spoken to Will and he says he prefers the ride of the Roaduno to the 
> Quickbeam, but I'm still not sure exactly *why*. Does anyone have any 
> intel or thoughts on how it compares? 
>
> I should say that I do ride the QB fixed, and I am aware the Roaduno is 
> problematic as a fixie, but I am not worried about that, since I use short 
> cranks (150mm) and fat tires (43mm).
>
> Also: Would anyone be interested in a 56 Quickbeam frameset, should I 
> decide to sell? I can't imagine I could recoup the cost of refinishing it 
> and still make enough to cover some of the cost of a new frame.
>
> - Andrew
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr vs Polyvalent Lowkicker?

2024-08-19 Thread Mackenzy Albright

I'm on team Clem jr and will never part with mine. I think the low kicker 
is a beautiful bike and would not be a bad choice either. 

I find a big deal breaker for some is often access to bike racks on cars 
and transit and storage due to wheelbase. If these are not a concern I'd go 
with a Clem purely on my personal preferences. I really enjoy the extra top 
tube which gives adjustment vs putting the longest possible stem on a bike. 

On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 10:24:58 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve used a Wald basket mounted to a Tumbleweed “T” rack on the front of 
> my Clem L & the rear of my Gus. In both cases I also utilized the triple 
> mounts of the rack to support King “many things” cages to hold my fork 
> mounted bags. The front wheel flop on the Clem was far more noticeable than 
> any tail wag on the Gus. Having said that, neither bothered me much. Both 
> bikes handled the load well.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 19, 2024, at 11:17 AM, Chris Halasz  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I assume someone pregnant prefers a more upright position, irrespective of 
> its declared benefits to the health of one's pelvic floor (important to me, 
> anyway), and overall spinal and wrist comfort (subjective, I suppose). It 
> makes sense then to extend the chainstay, and so proportionately the 
> overall triangle from the center of mass of the more upright cyclist and 
> the bicycle wheelbase. 
>
> Likewise, it makes more sense for the cyclist who rides low and in the 
> drops to ride a shorter chainstay and so a shorter wheelbase than the Clem. 
>
> At barely 6'1", with an 89cm PBH, my 64cm Clem L has a more accessible 
> 'step-through' than my 60cm Platypus, and, to me, the Platypus appears to 
> have much more step-through access than the Lowkicker. I don't see how one 
> could really step through the Lowkicker without considerably tilting the 
> bike. 
>
> - Chris 
> On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-7 DJC wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> I own both the Polyvalent and the Clem Smith H; I've also built up for 
>> others the Polyvalent low-kicker and the Clem L. The Clem has a laid back, 
>> swoopy feel; it's equally comfortable on the road or in the dirt, whereas 
>> the Polyvalent feels snappier and more nimble. That's doesn't mean the Clem 
>> is sluggish, but rather it's not as "fast" handling as the Poly. I'm 
>> selling my Polyvalent because it's too close to other bikes in my stable; 
>> the Clem is a forever bike for me. Another consideration will be the fit; 
>> the Clem has a very generous headtube / stack compared to the Polyvalent, 
>> plus with the Clem you get the advantage of the quill stem for setting the 
>> front-end height
>>
>> Both are lovely bikes, but very different in design and riding 
>> characteristics. Remember that the Polyvalent is a "low-trail" bike, but to 
>> the higher end of the range, which makes it more neutral in handling 
>> compared to low low-trail bikes. It handles a front load better than a rear 
>> load, but still manages a light rear load well. The Clem is a rear loader 
>> primarily, and capable of a light front load. I've chosen the Clem because 
>> it's become a groovy analog trail bike that compliments my Gus Boots 
>> nicely. However, I did have the Clem build as a city commuter for a couple 
>> of years and it was very capable.
>>
>> Best, 
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 9:25:38 PM UTC-4 paulje...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2024-08-18 at 5.41.07 PM.png]Hello-
>>>
>>> I'm considering getting a step-thru bike for my partner. She's pregnant 
>>> and her normal touring bike is feeling less and less comfortable. We're 
>>> looking at the size 64 Clem Smith Jr or the XL Velo Orange Polyvalent 
>>> Lowkicker. She's 6'3 with 97 PBH.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone here might be able to say how the ride quality 
>>> might be different on the two bikes? Or if there are reasons I should 
>>> consider one over the other?
>>>
>>> We mostly ride on pavement on country roads and the occasional 
>>> dirt/gravel road. The Clem looks longer which I imagine would make it more 
>>> stable? I imagine this might be nice if we eventually put a baby seat on 
>>> the back. 
>>>
>>> The Polyvalent Lowkicker uses 650b wheels and I'm a little concerned 
>>> with toe overlap as it looks like a shorter wheelbase. I know the 
>>> Polyvalent uses more modern standards like thru axles and disc brakes for 
>>> better or worse. I like that the Polyvalent is a bit more affordable but 
>>> the Rivendell seems like more of a classic. I'd be grateful for any 
>>> suggestions.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Handlebar suggestion for long legs?

2024-08-19 Thread Dan

So I have ordered my Appaloosa and am trying to get my parts in order. I 
plan on making the purchase of the "you pick the fun stuff, we pick the 
rest" to go along with the Appaloosa. My biggest conundrum is the 
handlebars. I have 91.5 PBH and have concerns with kneeing my hands or the 
handlebars. Originally I was thinking the Billie bar because I like the 
option of gripping next to the stem but looking at whatbars.com, comparing 
to other riv handlebars, they seem to sweep back a bit more than others. I 
have never used swept back bars before and have no option to view these 
bars in person so here I am yet again looking for some insights! Basically, 
I'd like a bar that comes back to a comfortable position without me having 
to lean too far forward and allows me to get a tight grip when I want to. 
Just dont want to get a setup that causes me to get too close to the 
handlebars is all. I plan on going with thumb shifters if that helps to 
know.

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar suggestion for long legs?

2024-08-19 Thread David Ross

The Riv bars are really narrow in my opinion. Depending on your shoulders
you can go a lot wider. Hope Cyclery sells some 787mm sweeps and you can
have anything you want made at Doom. I have some Albatross inspired bars
from them that are 707mm wide.

On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 5:03 PM Dan  wrote:

> So I have ordered my Appaloosa and am trying to get my parts in order. I
> plan on making the purchase of the "you pick the fun stuff, we pick the
> rest" to go along with the Appaloosa. My biggest conundrum is the
> handlebars. I have 91.5 PBH and have concerns with kneeing my hands or the
> handlebars. Originally I was thinking the Billie bar because I like the
> option of gripping next to the stem but looking at whatbars.com,
> comparing to other riv handlebars, they seem to sweep back a bit more than
> others. I have never used swept back bars before and have no option to view
> these bars in person so here I am yet again looking for some insights!
> Basically, I'd like a bar that comes back to a comfortable position without
> me having to lean too far forward and allows me to get a tight grip when I
> want to. Just dont want to get a setup that causes me to get too close to
> the handlebars is all. I plan on going with thumb shifters if that helps to
> know.
>
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Re: [RBW] Handlebar suggestion for long legs?

2024-08-19 Thread Richard Rose

Wow. I own two Riv’s and have two similar but quite different handlebar / stem combinations. Still, I can think of no reliable advice to help steer (pun not intended) you in the right direction. I had to experiment a little bit to get my Clem setup just perfect. That at least gave me a blueprint for my Gus when it arrived. But, starting from scratch? I think I would rely heavily on the folks at Riv.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 19, 2024, at 5:43 PM, David Ross wrote:The Riv bars are really narrow in my opinion. Depending on your shoulders you can go a lot wider. Hope Cyclery sells some 787mm sweeps and you can have anything you want made at Doom. I have some Albatross inspired bars from them that are 707mm wide. On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 5:03 PM Dan wrote:So I have ordered my Appaloosa and am trying to get my parts in order. I plan on making the purchase of the "you pick the fun stuff, we pick the rest" to go along with the Appaloosa. My biggest conundrum is the handlebars. I have 91.5 PBH and have concerns with kneeing my hands or the handlebars. Originally I was thinking the Billie bar because I like the option of gripping next to the stem but looking at whatbars.com, comparing to other riv handlebars, they seem to sweep back a bit more than others. I have never used swept back bars before and have no option to view these bars in person so here I am yet again looking for some insights! Basically, I'd like a bar that comes back to a comfortable position without me having to lean too far forward and allows me to get a tight grip when I want to. Just dont want to get a setup that causes me to get too close to the handlebars is all. I plan on going with thumb shifters if that helps to know.

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar suggestion for long legs?

2024-08-19 Thread Jay Lonner

The Jones Loop H-Bar in 710mm are my favorite all-around handlebar. If I could only have one this would be it. Jay LonnerBellingham, WASent from my Atari 400On Aug 19, 2024, at 14:43, David Ross wrote:The Riv bars are really narrow in my opinion. Depending on your shoulders you can go a lot wider. Hope Cyclery sells some 787mm sweeps and you can have anything you want made at Doom. I have some Albatross inspired bars from them that are 707mm wide. On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 5:03 PM Dan wrote:So I have ordered my Appaloosa and am trying to get my parts in order. I plan on making the purchase of the "you pick the fun stuff, we pick the rest" to go along with the Appaloosa. My biggest conundrum is the handlebars. I have 91.5 PBH and have concerns with kneeing my hands or the handlebars. Originally I was thinking the Billie bar because I like the option of gripping next to the stem but looking at whatbars.com, comparing to other riv handlebars, they seem to sweep back a bit more than others. I have never used swept back bars before and have no option to view these bars in person so here I am yet again looking for some insights! Basically, I'd like a bar that comes back to a comfortable position without me having to lean too far forward and allows me to get a tight grip when I want to. Just dont want to get a setup that causes me to get too close to the handlebars is all. I plan on going with thumb shifters if that helps to know.

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar suggestion for long legs?

2024-08-19 Thread Richard Rose

To clarify; 580 wide Bosco with 135 FacePlater on my Clem. 785 wide Hope Cyclery Albacore (50degree sweep) with 35mm Paul Boxcar stem on Gus. Believe it or not these combinations put me in very similar positions with the biggest difference being the width. Fore/aft they are really close with both being very upright & relaxed. The Gus is just better for trail use. Note; both bikes never give me issues with knee contact or otherwise being too close. I hope this helps.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 19, 2024, at 6:02 PM, Richard Rose wrote:Wow. I own two Riv’s and have two similar but quite different handlebar / stem combinations. Still, I can think of no reliable advice to help steer (pun not intended) you in the right direction. I had to experiment a little bit to get my Clem setup just perfect. That at least gave me a blueprint for my Gus when it arrived. But, starting from scratch? I think I would rely heavily on the folks at Riv.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 19, 2024, at 5:43 PM, David Ross wrote:The Riv bars are really narrow in my opinion. Depending on your shoulders you can go a lot wider. Hope Cyclery sells some 787mm sweeps and you can have anything you want made at Doom. I have some Albatross inspired bars from them that are 707mm wide. On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 5:03 PM Dan wrote:So I have ordered my Appaloosa and am trying to get my parts in order. I plan on making the purchase of the "you pick the fun stuff, we pick the rest" to go along with the Appaloosa. My biggest conundrum is the handlebars. I have 91.5 PBH and have concerns with kneeing my hands or the handlebars. Originally I was thinking the Billie bar because I like the option of gripping next to the stem but looking at whatbars.com, comparing to other riv handlebars, they seem to sweep back a bit more than others. I have never used swept back bars before and have no option to view these bars in person so here I am yet again looking for some insights! Basically, I'd like a bar that comes back to a comfortable position without me having to lean too far forward and allows me to get a tight grip when I want to. Just dont want to get a setup that causes me to get too close to the handlebars is all. I plan on going with thumb shifters if that helps to know.

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

2024-08-19 Thread Richard Rose

Wow that Gus seems downright cheap. Mostly high end parts. Someone should be very happy.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 18, 2024, at 10:24 PM, Hoch in ut wrote:Gus 57cm on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/335535412233?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=qA7Aw4ymQhC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rzmd47rSQ3O&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPYOn Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 8:24:33 AM UTC-6 Josh C wrote:52 Sam for $1250 in the Bay Area https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/albany-rivendell-sam-hillborne-52cm/7775464891.htmlOn Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 11:59:05 AM UTC-4 Jeffery S wrote:Rivendell Atlantis - $2,400 (Denver)https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/d/denver-rivendell-atlantis/7773388159.htmlNot mine and no relationOn Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 7:02:27 AM UTC-6 Josh C wrote:53cm Susie that looks nicely appointed. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/belmont-rivendell-susie-53/7772593945.htmlOn Monday, August 5, 2024 at 8:48:25 PM UTC-4 Chris Halasz wrote:63cm Soma San Marcos bicycle - $600 (Carmel)https://monterey.craigslist.org/bik/d/carmel-by-the-sea-soma-san-marcos/7772195224.htmlOn Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 10:36:55 PM UTC-7 Corwin Zechar wrote:Hi Philip -I have a Roadeo waiting for paint. The claimed tire clearance for Roadeos is 33mm (basically a Jack Brown tire) as I recall. I'm reasonably sure I could put a 35mm tire on a relatively wide rim and make it work without fenders.Regards,CorwinOn Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 2:04:48 PM UTC-7 philip@gmail.com wrote:I so badly wish this was a 58/59. Hell, even 60!This is exactly what I want to be riding this summer!What size tire will it clear? 28s?P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Jul 7, 2024, at 1:19 PM, donavanm wrote:On Friday, July 5, 2024 at 5:05:32 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:63cm Roadeo. Don't see these every day. Good price IMO. https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-roadeo-63cm-black-and/7763433686.html This is mine. I can provide more photos if anyones interested, or a test ride in seattle. As mentioned i just dont ride it these days.I also have a 61cm simpleone that Ill be listing once I take some pics tomorrow. Im keeping my quickbeam, and Ill be down to 7 other bikes…

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Re: [RBW] Wet paint options in the Upper Midwest

2024-08-19 Thread 'William Watson' via RBW Owners Bunch

Chris Kvale painted my Curt Goodrich last winter and did a great job. He's 
still building frames and might not be super quick depending on the queue, 
but I had a great experience with his work. 
Best, 
Will

On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 11:41:09 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Maybe check with Yellow Jersey in Madison.
>
> On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 6:26:47 PM UTC-6 Danny wrote:
>
>> Hey Kevin,
>>
>> I don’t have any personal experience, but Adam at NYF Paint is very 
>> highly recommended around my neck of the woods. He would be my first choice 
>> if I had a frame needing paint.
>>
>> https://www.nyfpaint.com/
>>
>> Danny
>> Madison, WI
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 6:51 PM Kevin  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm located in the Twin Cities and considering a repaint of a well-worn 
>>> Redwood. I've found a couple of places to look at but I'm wondering if 
>>> anybody here has hands on experience getting a wet paint job in and around 
>>> Minnesota and Wisconsin.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Handlebar suggestion for long legs?

2024-08-19 Thread David Ross

I’d agree with this. I think the only reason more people don’t ride them is
based on looks. My daughter and fiancé won’t touch anything else.

On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 6:06 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:

> The Jones Loop H-Bar in 710mm are my favorite all-around handlebar. If I
> could only have one this would be it.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Aug 19, 2024, at 14:43, David Ross  wrote:
>
> 
>
> The Riv bars are really narrow in my opinion. Depending on your shoulders
> you can go a lot wider. Hope Cyclery sells some 787mm sweeps and you can
> have anything you want made at Doom. I have some Albatross inspired bars
> from them that are 707mm wide.
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 5:03 PM Dan  wrote:
>
>> So I have ordered my Appaloosa and am trying to get my parts in order. I
>> plan on making the purchase of the "you pick the fun stuff, we pick the
>> rest" to go along with the Appaloosa. My biggest conundrum is the
>> handlebars. I have 91.5 PBH and have concerns with kneeing my hands or the
>> handlebars. Originally I was thinking the Billie bar because I like the
>> option of gripping next to the stem but looking at whatbars.com,
>> comparing to other riv handlebars, they seem to sweep back a bit more than
>> others. I have never used swept back bars before and have no option to view
>> these bars in person so here I am yet again looking for some insights!
>> Basically, I'd like a bar that comes back to a comfortable position without
>> me having to lean too far forward and allows me to get a tight grip when I
>> want to. Just dont want to get a setup that causes me to get too close to
>> the handlebars is all. I plan on going with thumb shifters if that helps to
>> know.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Pacenti Forza Classico 700c wheelset

2024-08-19 Thread Brent Eastman

is this consideredlight? I have an all black wheelset on my roadini and 
I'm considering going back to classic silver, but I also need a 
non-aesthetic reason to switch, and I want to make the Roadini even lighter.

My wheels: Dyad rims, SP Dynamo Hub, Deore Rear Hub.


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[RBW] Ro-Deux-No build notes New Bike Day

2024-08-19 Thread Bill Lindsay

I went to Riv HQ and picked up my 58cm Complete RoadUno. I picked up the
bike in the box to do the build myself. I also splurged on an extra 250mm
length Nitto S83 seat post.

I did pretty much the whole build this afternoon, except I neglected to
secure a chain. I thought I had plenty of chain-stock on hand, but it
turns out I only had 10sp chains, which I'm not prepared to deploy just
yet.

The setup was straightforward, but I did completely disassemble everything
that was pre-assembled in the complete. The frame set is not light: 5.83
pounds for the 58cm frame with headset cups, 2.18 pounds for the fork with
enormously long steerer. The new svelte Silver 3 cranks are roughly 25%
lighter than the Silver 1 cranks.

Thread chasing was necessary on the RD hanger, but it was aligned
perfectly. Most but not all of the H2O bolt and fender bolt bosses were
already chased. It was all straightforward prep for a mechanic. There was
no BB cable guide included, but I had those on-hand. I installed a Shimano
CX70 front der and a White Industries DOS ENO 16/19 freewheel. I installed
a Suntour Sprint down tube shifter on the shifter boss, with my own custom
machined stop that causes it to sit proud of the down tube in the
small-ring position.

With the faceplater stem pretty much slammed, and the saddle at my height,
I'm happy at the silhouette of the bike. I'm eager to get a chain on it
and start riding it.

Have a look:
https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720319657823

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Pacenti Forza Classico 700c wheelset

2024-08-19 Thread Jacob Tobey

I don't think it would be considered exceptionally light when compared to 
carbon or a lesser spoke count, but I think they're on the lighter side for 
a 32 spoke 700c wheelset. That's my understanding at least. I can say with 
certainty that they're considerably lighter than the cliffhanger wheelset I 
replaced them with, but that might not be saying much!

Your best bet would be to weigh your current wheels if you're looking for 
a comparison, but I imagine these would have them beat. They'd look amazing 
on a Roadini! 
On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 9:59:10 PM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> is this consideredlight? I have an all black wheelset on my roadini 
> and I'm considering going back to classic silver, but I also need a 
> non-aesthetic reason to switch, and I want to make the Roadini even lighter.
>
> My wheels: Dyad rims, SP Dynamo Hub, Deore Rear Hub.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Ro-Deux-No build notes New Bike Day

2024-08-19 Thread P W

Wow Bill - first happy customer this side of the ocean?Guess that means mine will be shipping shortly, too…Exciting times!The little tweaks you’ve made so far to the build are all excellent. And I agree, the stance/silhouette looks ideal as it is.Can I ask how tall you are?Curious how exactly the same size (58) is gonna feel and fit when I get my hands on it!P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Aug 19, 2024, at 9:41 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:I went to Riv HQ and picked up my 58cm Complete RoadUno. I picked up the bike in the box to do the build myself. I also splurged on an extra 250mm length Nitto S83 seat post. I did pretty much the whole build this afternoon, except I neglected to secure a chain. I thought I had plenty of chain-stock on hand, but it turns out I only had 10sp chains, which I'm not prepared to deploy just yet. The setup was straightforward, but I did completely disassemble everything that was pre-assembled in the complete. The frame set is not light: 5.83 pounds for the 58cm frame with headset cups, 2.18 pounds for the fork with enormously long steerer. The new svelte Silver 3 cranks are roughly 25% lighter than the Silver 1 cranks. Thread chasing was necessary on the RD hanger, but it was aligned perfectly. Most but not all of the H2O bolt and fender bolt bosses were already chased. It was all straightforward prep for a mechanic. There was no BB cable guide included, but I had those on-hand. I installed a Shimano CX70 front der and a White Industries DOS ENO 16/19 freewheel. I installed a Suntour Sprint down tube shifter on the shifter boss, with my own custom machined stop that causes it to sit proud of the down tube in the small-ring position. With the faceplater stem pretty much slammed, and the saddle at my height, I'm happy at the silhouette of the bike. I'm eager to get a chain on it and start riding it. Have a look: https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720319657823Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Ro-Deux-No build notes New Bike Day

2024-08-19 Thread Bill Lindsay

I'm 5'10". My Saddle Height is 75.5cm, so I think that makes me a 86cm PBH 
guy.  

BL in EC

On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 9:55:21 PM UTC-7 P W wrote:

> Wow Bill - first happy customer this side of the ocean?
>
> Guess that means mine will be shipping shortly, too…
>
> Exciting times!
>
> The little tweaks you’ve made so far to the build are all excellent. And I 
> agree, the stance/silhouette looks ideal as it is.
>
> Can I ask how tall you are?
>
> Curious how exactly the same size (58) is gonna feel and fit when I get my 
> hands on it!
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2024, at 9:41 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> I went to Riv HQ and picked up my 58cm Complete RoadUno.  I picked up the 
> bike in the box to do the build myself.  I also splurged on an extra 250mm 
> length Nitto S83 seat post.  
>
>
> I did pretty much the whole build this afternoon, except I neglected to 
> secure a chain.  I thought I had plenty of chain-stock on hand, but it 
> turns out I only had 10sp chains, which I'm not prepared to deploy just 
> yet.  
>
> The setup was straightforward, but I did completely disassemble everything 
> that was pre-assembled in the complete.  The frame set is not light: 5.83 
> pounds for the 58cm frame with headset cups, 2.18 pounds for the fork with 
> enormously long steerer.  The new svelte Silver 3 cranks are roughly 25% 
> lighter than the Silver 1 cranks.  
>
> Thread chasing was necessary on the RD hanger, but it was aligned 
> perfectly.  Most but not all of the H2O bolt and fender bolt bosses were 
> already chased.  It was all straightforward prep for a mechanic.  There was 
> no BB cable guide included, but I had those on-hand.  I installed a Shimano 
> CX70 front der and a White Industries DOS ENO 16/19 freewheel.  I installed 
> a Suntour Sprint down tube shifter on the shifter boss, with my own custom 
> machined stop that causes it to sit proud of the down tube in the 
> small-ring position.  
>
> With the faceplater stem pretty much slammed, and the saddle at my height, 
> I'm happy at the silhouette of the bike.  I'm eager to get a chain on it 
> and start riding it.  
>
> Have a look:  
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720319657823
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: FS: Pacenti Forza Classico 700c wheelset

2024-08-19 Thread Bill Lindsay

1540g is indeed light for a clincher rim-brake wheel set with a 135mm rear 
hub.  

A Roadini wants a 130mm rear hub, though. 

BL in EC
On Monday, August 19, 2024 at 7:59:10 PM UTC-7 Brent Eastman wrote:

> is this consideredlight? I have an all black wheelset on my roadini 
> and I'm considering going back to classic silver, but I also need a 
> non-aesthetic reason to switch, and I want to make the Roadini even lighter.
>
> My wheels: Dyad rims, SP Dynamo Hub, Deore Rear Hub.
>
>
>

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