[RBW] Re: NBD - Purple Appaloosa

[Roberta]

Dan,

The Appa looks great. I had one and loved its dreamy ride. I’m sure you’ll 
have lots of wonderful comfortable adventures. 

Roberta
On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 3:44:46 AM UTC-4 Dan wrote:

> Hi everyone, I’d like to share the story of my new purple Appaloosa. I’ve 
> gained a great deal of insight and enjoyment from reading this forum, so 
> it’s only right that I return the favour with a story of my own.
>
>
> From the first time I had heard that there was a company called Rivendell, 
> I knew that someday I’d be riding one. I’d avidly read Tolkein in my 
> childhood, so to hear that there were LotR themed bicycles - and that they 
> were so beautiful! - was just fascinating to me. The more I read about the 
> bikes and the philosophy, the more I was convinced. The final straw was 
> coming across ‘Calling In Sick Magazine’, aka the unofficial Rivendell fan 
> magazine. Reading the stories and looking at the photos of those people 
> riding on dry hills near the ocean, in terrain not to dissimilar to what I 
> ride here in Adelaide, Australia, gave me the impetus to make my dream a 
> reality.
>
>
> So, why did I choose an Appaloosa? To answer that, here is a little bit 
> about the other bikes in my stable…
>
>
> *Surly Straggler*
>
> This was my first ‘nice’ bike, the first bike I actually did any research 
> on before buying. I bought it to be my only bike and a do-it-all bike, one 
> that would be reliable and fun both day-to-day and on riding anywhere and 
> everywhere when I felt like adventure. In that, it’s met all my 
> expectations and then some. It’s set up with a rack and fenders as a 
> commuter, but over time I’ve tweaked it with wider, flared drops, fatter, 
> more supple rubber and lower gearing to suit my increasing desire to 
> explore. I’ve ridden this bike on two (metric) centuries, countless 
> suburban explorations, in the rain, on gravel, and on single track. It does 
> it all, more or less. I’ve never liked the looks of the stack of spacers I 
> needed to get the bars high, and the gearing is probably a bit high, though 
> that has made me stronger. Descending on the dirt, even with the flared 
> drops, is a whole-body workout. Side note - I actually wanted a Cross 
> Check, but they weren’t available to order in Australia when I bought this 
> bike.
>
>
> [image: IMG_0580.jpeg]
>
>
> *Bassi Bloomfield*
>
> It took a while to allow myself the thought that it was ok to have more 
> than one bike. I’d been browsing Blue Lug and watching Terry Barentsen 
> during the pandemic and fell in love with the idea of 650b, fat tyres, 
> upright bars and front baskets. The day after I’d decided that I could get 
> myself another bike, my local bike shop listed a whole bunch of Bassi 
> frames for sale. The clearance for wide 650b tyres and the flower head tube 
> graphic sold me instantly!
>
> This bike has been a revelation for me. There’s something about it - the 
> wide bars, the light frame, having no gears - that just clicks with me. 
> It’s like the bike is hard-wired into my brain. And the basket! It’s so 
> practical. More than that, though, this bike looks great. It’s a bike that 
> non-bike people complement me on. And it sold me on how good it feels to 
> ride upright.
>
>
> [image: IMG_8340.jpeg]
>
>
> *Why Appaloosa?*
>
> Which brings me to the Appaloosa. In the last two years I’d begun to the 
> explore the range of hills that flank Kaurna country / the Adelaide plains. 
> I like riding from my door, winding through the suburbs to a trail head, 
> then climbing and exploring the trails, going a little further each time. I 
> wanted a bike that would be fun to ride on the road but more comfortable 
> and capable off it than my other bikes. In short, I wanted a touring bike, 
> and the Appaloosa seemed like it. I liked that the 2.2” tyres looked like a 
> balance of speed and comfort, and the long chainstays promised to smooth 
> out bumps and make hair-raising off-road descents more palatable. Spoiler 
> alert: both of these things were true!
>
>
> I’ll spare you the story of sourcing the frame. I’ll only say that I 
> initially hesitated on the purple colour, which in hindsight was absolutely 
> ridiculous. Purple is my favourite colour and THIS purple is amazing. It’s 
> perfect.
>
>
> *First Impressions*
>
> I picked up the Appaloosa on Thursday after my bike shop kindly managed to 
> get it ready before the Easter long weekend. Since then, I’ve taken the 
> bike on a couple of long rides and a handful of short ones. The long rides 
> include a 50km-or-so out and back along the linear trail of Adelaide’s main 
> river, and one of my regular, rocky, single-track heavy foothills climbing 
> loops.
>
>
> The comfort of the riding position on this bike is incredible. My chest 
> feels so open, and I can look around freely. I’m almost too carefree and 
> sometimes need to remind myself to look at where I’m going! Despite this, 
> pedalling isn’t a chore either. When climbing

[RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

[J S]

As I am getting older I find my balance is not as good as it used to be. At 
72 I had not worn a helmet in many years. 3 1/2 weeks ago I took a bad 
spill, tire hitting a raised curve on a bike trail, one I use to get to 
quiet street to ride. My reflexes are not as good as they used to be. I 
landed on my left side, bruised forehead, skin tissue damage on my left 
side at shoulder and ribs. I took 2 short rides this week,  with a helmet, 
I don’t like them but but my balancing seems to be a bit off, maybe a mixte 
would be better now. I’ve been sleeping in my recliner as it has been the 
most comfortable place. I will wear a helmet now as age may dictate better 
protection. I also think tha wider bars I use now offer less control as I 
had 3 near balance issues yesterday at very slow speeds. 

On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 7:32:26 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> It boils down to the potential for a sudden stop, primarily your head and 
> something of greater mass. Inertia is the culprit even if you have a hard 
> head your brain is floating inside it tethered only to your spinal cord. 
>
> I guess in tort law it is standard not to expect a person to be 
> responsible for the infinite possible acts of others but to demonstrate the 
> choices of a reasonably prudent person. 
>
> Those two things exist. I was struck from my bike by the side mirror of a 
> passing truck without a helmet the spring of tenth grade. I didn't remember 
> things or people for days. An MRI, three nights in the hospital, finally 
> recognizing my dad and a neurosurgeon when talking about how to address my 
> subdural hematoma. The back left of my head felt like an overripe banana 
> was under the flesh. I didn't know what a craniotomy was but am happy my 
> dad chose letting all the blood reabsorb on its own, even though it meant a 
> debilitating headache and bedrest for most of three months. Learning to 
> walk again after the deconditioning and weight loss was bad. 
>
> Riding my new Rambouillet cross country years later I suffered a rear tire 
> slash going 40mph downhill. Before I could get stopped I had some steering 
> to do which I was unable to do any longer and went over in a high side. The 
> road was freshly chip topped tar using what they had around which was very 
> hard, granite-like. I hit it with the back left of my head and nearly top 
> of my shoulder. My helmet broke and slid, my shoulder (then several other 
> points) hit and stuck like velcro to the sharp shards of the road surface 
> taking out scoops of flesh each time until I slowed to a slide. I was a 
> bloody mess, my helmet was but for one piece of lining pad in two pieces 
> and my left shoulder not quite right.
>
> My cohorts on this adventure had lead more gentle lives to this point and 
> hadn't been around many in-person injuries or blood. My shoulder was 
> separated (collar bone no longer connected to the projection of the 
> shoulder blade...ligament broken) and I needed to get going. No cars passed 
> us in the previous hours, no cell phone coverage and dark clouds across the 
> western half of the sky. Our overnight was 43 miles away so I got up and 
> rode there. The others, in shock from their experience of my injuries, did 
> ultimately follow.
>
> Getting away with your head and contents functioning permits better 
> stories to tell later. I emailed Grant about my ride after being all torn 
> up and bloody, my jersey hem pullled into a sling and my orange Rambouillet 
> rideable with one hand. These seemed liike options and observations 
> resulting from being reasonable and prudent about wearing a helmet. Being 
> thusly rewarded I continue to choose the paradigm I followed after having 
> experienced my brain being bashed about inside my young skull and the 
> resulting bruising that caused. It surely saved me this time and was just 
> on my head for an 80 mile ride out and back on the GAP Monday and 
> Tuesday.[image: 
> 85A9C7C6-2E3B-4530-BE90-ABE2A317E084_1_105_c.jpeg]
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 5:27:36 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> [image: 
>> oMe3QaPR4E9b7DDpDnQFwbXwIfYum0EBKDB8bA~tplv-photomode-video-share-card:1200:630:20.jpeg]
>>
>> 1.1M likes, 21.3K comments. “Sound ON for this one…with #FathersDay 
>> tomorrow I have very important message for all the dads out there…WEAR A 
>> HELMET ! This week I had a really bad accident while riding my bike in 
>> Connecticut. I'm doing ok and did not break any bones or suffer any major 
>> injuries but I am a bit bruised up looking like a purple potato. I’m 
>> thankful for all the doctors, nurses and staff at Lawerence + Memorial 
>> Hospital in New London who looked after me and checked me out, but most 
>> thankful for my helmet that saved my life. Have a great Father’s Day and be 
>> safe Gx”
>>  
>> TikTok · Gordon Ramsay 
>> 

[RBW] Re: NBD - Purple Appaloosa

[Valerie Yates]

I like drop bars, just not the Straggler.  It was pretty and took 650b 
wheels but felt heavy and dull to me. Mine was small (51?). Might be better 
in larger sizes. Mine felt stiff and stout and had no glide.  

Your bike looks better and better. Curious to learn your opinion of those 
tires. They look very capable. How do they ride?  I have Schwalbe Marathon 
Supremes on mine. Feels very Cadillac. Curious too about the quick rack. I 
like to have the rack mounted to the eyelets. Not sure the benefit of 
mounting to the seat post. Is that the quick part? 


On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 5:10:49 AM UTC-6 Dan wrote:

> Valerie, it's comforting to hear that others have made the same journey as 
> me.
> My Straggler has found its place in my stable as the drop-bar and fendered 
> bike. I like having the option to ride drops! To further differentiate it 
> from the Appaloosa, though, I've removed the rear rack and added a front 
> low-rider rack, shaving about 1kg of weight in the process.
>
> I'll share more photos as it reaches its final form. I'm still waiting on 
> the dynamo light install, and I've swapped out the light and fast (but 
> fragile) Panaracer Driver Pro tyres for Ultradynamico Mars Robustos. Oh, 
> and I bought an Ortlieb Quick Rack rear rack to use on the bike, which fits 
> PERFECTLY, is sturdy, and really is as easy to put on / remove as they 
> claim.
>
> With the new tyres:
> [image: IMG_2049.jpeg]
>
> The Quick Rack:
> [image: IMG_1649.jpeg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

[George Schick]

@jrstern - have you ever been examined for inner ear problems?  Might be a 
worthwhile thing to do.


On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 9:11:45 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> As I am getting older I find my balance is not as good as it used to be. 
> At 72 I had not worn a helmet in many years. 3 1/2 weeks ago I took a bad 
> spill, tire hitting a raised curve on a bike trail, one I use to get to 
> quiet street to ride. My reflexes are not as good as they used to be. I 
> landed on my left side, bruised forehead, skin tissue damage on my left 
> side at shoulder and ribs. I took 2 short rides this week,  with a helmet, 
> I don’t like them but but my balancing seems to be a bit off, maybe a mixte 
> would be better now. I’ve been sleeping in my recliner as it has been the 
> most comfortable place. I will wear a helmet now as age may dictate better 
> protection. I also think tha wider bars I use now offer less control as I 
> had 3 near balance issues yesterday at very slow speeds. 
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 7:32:26 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> It boils down to the potential for a sudden stop, primarily your head and 
>> something of greater mass. Inertia is the culprit even if you have a hard 
>> head your brain is floating inside it tethered only to your spinal cord. 
>>
>> I guess in tort law it is standard not to expect a person to be 
>> responsible for the infinite possible acts of others but to demonstrate the 
>> choices of a reasonably prudent person. 
>>
>> Those two things exist. I was struck from my bike by the side mirror of a 
>> passing truck without a helmet the spring of tenth grade. I didn't remember 
>> things or people for days. An MRI, three nights in the hospital, finally 
>> recognizing my dad and a neurosurgeon when talking about how to address my 
>> subdural hematoma. The back left of my head felt like an overripe banana 
>> was under the flesh. I didn't know what a craniotomy was but am happy my 
>> dad chose letting all the blood reabsorb on its own, even though it meant a 
>> debilitating headache and bedrest for most of three months. Learning to 
>> walk again after the deconditioning and weight loss was bad. 
>>
>> Riding my new Rambouillet cross country years later I suffered a rear 
>> tire slash going 40mph downhill. Before I could get stopped I had some 
>> steering to do which I was unable to do any longer and went over in a high 
>> side. The road was freshly chip topped tar using what they had around which 
>> was very hard, granite-like. I hit it with the back left of my head and 
>> nearly top of my shoulder. My helmet broke and slid, my shoulder (then 
>> several other points) hit and stuck like velcro to the sharp shards of the 
>> road surface taking out scoops of flesh each time until I slowed to a 
>> slide. I was a bloody mess, my helmet was but for one piece of lining pad 
>> in two pieces and my left shoulder not quite right.
>>
>> My cohorts on this adventure had lead more gentle lives to this point and 
>> hadn't been around many in-person injuries or blood. My shoulder was 
>> separated (collar bone no longer connected to the projection of the 
>> shoulder blade...ligament broken) and I needed to get going. No cars passed 
>> us in the previous hours, no cell phone coverage and dark clouds across the 
>> western half of the sky. Our overnight was 43 miles away so I got up and 
>> rode there. The others, in shock from their experience of my injuries, did 
>> ultimately follow.
>>
>> Getting away with your head and contents functioning permits better 
>> stories to tell later. I emailed Grant about my ride after being all torn 
>> up and bloody, my jersey hem pullled into a sling and my orange Rambouillet 
>> rideable with one hand. These seemed liike options and observations 
>> resulting from being reasonable and prudent about wearing a helmet. Being 
>> thusly rewarded I continue to choose the paradigm I followed after having 
>> experienced my brain being bashed about inside my young skull and the 
>> resulting bruising that caused. It surely saved me this time and was just 
>> on my head for an 80 mile ride out and back on the GAP Monday and 
>> Tuesday.[image: 
>> 85A9C7C6-2E3B-4530-BE90-ABE2A317E084_1_105_c.jpeg]
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 5:27:36 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 
>>> oMe3QaPR4E9b7DDpDnQFwbXwIfYum0EBKDB8bA~tplv-photomode-video-share-card:1200:630:20.jpeg]
>>>
>>> 1.1M likes, 21.3K comments. “Sound ON for this one…with #FathersDay 
>>> tomorrow I have very important message for all the dads out there…WEAR A 
>>> HELMET ! This week I had a really bad accident while riding my bike in 
>>> Connecticut. I'm doing ok and did not break any bones or suffer any major 
>>> injuries but I am a bit bruised up looking like a purple potato. I’m 
>>> thankful for all the doctors, nurses and staff at Lawerence + Memorial 
>>> Hospital in New London who looked after me and check

[RBW] Re: NBD - Purple Appaloosa

[chintan jadwani]

Lovely write-up. Thanks for sharing :)
I have a purple Surly Troll that i was initially very skeptical of but over 
time I have grown to love the color. 
I always think abour what Riv bike get, when I can, and your mail makes a 
convincing case for an Appalosa!


On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 1:14:46 PM UTC+5:30 Dan wrote:

> Hi everyone, I’d like to share the story of my new purple Appaloosa. I’ve 
> gained a great deal of insight and enjoyment from reading this forum, so 
> it’s only right that I return the favour with a story of my own.
>
>
> From the first time I had heard that there was a company called Rivendell, 
> I knew that someday I’d be riding one. I’d avidly read Tolkein in my 
> childhood, so to hear that there were LotR themed bicycles - and that they 
> were so beautiful! - was just fascinating to me. The more I read about the 
> bikes and the philosophy, the more I was convinced. The final straw was 
> coming across ‘Calling In Sick Magazine’, aka the unofficial Rivendell fan 
> magazine. Reading the stories and looking at the photos of those people 
> riding on dry hills near the ocean, in terrain not to dissimilar to what I 
> ride here in Adelaide, Australia, gave me the impetus to make my dream a 
> reality.
>
>
> So, why did I choose an Appaloosa? To answer that, here is a little bit 
> about the other bikes in my stable…
>
>
> *Surly Straggler*
>
> This was my first ‘nice’ bike, the first bike I actually did any research 
> on before buying. I bought it to be my only bike and a do-it-all bike, one 
> that would be reliable and fun both day-to-day and on riding anywhere and 
> everywhere when I felt like adventure. In that, it’s met all my 
> expectations and then some. It’s set up with a rack and fenders as a 
> commuter, but over time I’ve tweaked it with wider, flared drops, fatter, 
> more supple rubber and lower gearing to suit my increasing desire to 
> explore. I’ve ridden this bike on two (metric) centuries, countless 
> suburban explorations, in the rain, on gravel, and on single track. It does 
> it all, more or less. I’ve never liked the looks of the stack of spacers I 
> needed to get the bars high, and the gearing is probably a bit high, though 
> that has made me stronger. Descending on the dirt, even with the flared 
> drops, is a whole-body workout. Side note - I actually wanted a Cross 
> Check, but they weren’t available to order in Australia when I bought this 
> bike.
>
>
> [image: IMG_0580.jpeg]
>
>
> *Bassi Bloomfield*
>
> It took a while to allow myself the thought that it was ok to have more 
> than one bike. I’d been browsing Blue Lug and watching Terry Barentsen 
> during the pandemic and fell in love with the idea of 650b, fat tyres, 
> upright bars and front baskets. The day after I’d decided that I could get 
> myself another bike, my local bike shop listed a whole bunch of Bassi 
> frames for sale. The clearance for wide 650b tyres and the flower head tube 
> graphic sold me instantly!
>
> This bike has been a revelation for me. There’s something about it - the 
> wide bars, the light frame, having no gears - that just clicks with me. 
> It’s like the bike is hard-wired into my brain. And the basket! It’s so 
> practical. More than that, though, this bike looks great. It’s a bike that 
> non-bike people complement me on. And it sold me on how good it feels to 
> ride upright.
>
>
> [image: IMG_8340.jpeg]
>
>
> *Why Appaloosa?*
>
> Which brings me to the Appaloosa. In the last two years I’d begun to the 
> explore the range of hills that flank Kaurna country / the Adelaide plains. 
> I like riding from my door, winding through the suburbs to a trail head, 
> then climbing and exploring the trails, going a little further each time. I 
> wanted a bike that would be fun to ride on the road but more comfortable 
> and capable off it than my other bikes. In short, I wanted a touring bike, 
> and the Appaloosa seemed like it. I liked that the 2.2” tyres looked like a 
> balance of speed and comfort, and the long chainstays promised to smooth 
> out bumps and make hair-raising off-road descents more palatable. Spoiler 
> alert: both of these things were true!
>
>
> I’ll spare you the story of sourcing the frame. I’ll only say that I 
> initially hesitated on the purple colour, which in hindsight was absolutely 
> ridiculous. Purple is my favourite colour and THIS purple is amazing. It’s 
> perfect.
>
>
> *First Impressions*
>
> I picked up the Appaloosa on Thursday after my bike shop kindly managed to 
> get it ready before the Easter long weekend. Since then, I’ve taken the 
> bike on a couple of long rides and a handful of short ones. The long rides 
> include a 50km-or-so out and back along the linear trail of Adelaide’s main 
> river, and one of my regular, rocky, single-track heavy foothills climbing 
> loops.
>
>
> The comfort of the riding position on this bike is incredible. My chest 
> feels so open, and I can look around freely. I’m almost too carefree an

[RBW] Re: Show me your Riv with Bullmoose bars

[Bill Lindsay]

I hope someday to be reunited with this one.  My former Bombadil:

https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5236885742/in/album-72157623611013487/

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, cA

On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 6:42:58 PM UTC-7 Max S wrote:

> As everyone knows, having a stem or a handlebar in the workshop and *not* 
> attached to a bike is a very dangerous situation. I find myself in a double 
> hazard with a Bullmoose handlebar / quill stem in the shop, not attached to 
> any bike. The one proven safety measure in such a situation is to build a 
> bike around it. As everyone knows. 
>
> So, inspire me with your awesomest Bullmoosey-ist builds! 
>
> - Max "double trouble" in A2 
>

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[RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

[J S]

No but I think it is a good idea, thank you. 

On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 11:05:30 AM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> @jrstern - have you ever been examined for inner ear problems?  Might be a 
> worthwhile thing to do.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 9:11:45 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> As I am getting older I find my balance is not as good as it used to be. 
>> At 72 I had not worn a helmet in many years. 3 1/2 weeks ago I took a bad 
>> spill, tire hitting a raised curve on a bike trail, one I use to get to 
>> quiet street to ride. My reflexes are not as good as they used to be. I 
>> landed on my left side, bruised forehead, skin tissue damage on my left 
>> side at shoulder and ribs. I took 2 short rides this week,  with a helmet, 
>> I don’t like them but but my balancing seems to be a bit off, maybe a mixte 
>> would be better now. I’ve been sleeping in my recliner as it has been the 
>> most comfortable place. I will wear a helmet now as age may dictate better 
>> protection. I also think tha wider bars I use now offer less control as I 
>> had 3 near balance issues yesterday at very slow speeds. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 7:32:26 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> It boils down to the potential for a sudden stop, primarily your head 
>>> and something of greater mass. Inertia is the culprit even if you have a 
>>> hard head your brain is floating inside it tethered only to your spinal 
>>> cord. 
>>>
>>> I guess in tort law it is standard not to expect a person to be 
>>> responsible for the infinite possible acts of others but to demonstrate the 
>>> choices of a reasonably prudent person. 
>>>
>>> Those two things exist. I was struck from my bike by the side mirror of 
>>> a passing truck without a helmet the spring of tenth grade. I didn't 
>>> remember things or people for days. An MRI, three nights in the hospital, 
>>> finally recognizing my dad and a neurosurgeon when talking about how to 
>>> address my subdural hematoma. The back left of my head felt like an 
>>> overripe banana was under the flesh. I didn't know what a craniotomy was 
>>> but am happy my dad chose letting all the blood reabsorb on its own, even 
>>> though it meant a debilitating headache and bedrest for most of three 
>>> months. Learning to walk again after the deconditioning and weight loss was 
>>> bad. 
>>>
>>> Riding my new Rambouillet cross country years later I suffered a rear 
>>> tire slash going 40mph downhill. Before I could get stopped I had some 
>>> steering to do which I was unable to do any longer and went over in a high 
>>> side. The road was freshly chip topped tar using what they had around which 
>>> was very hard, granite-like. I hit it with the back left of my head and 
>>> nearly top of my shoulder. My helmet broke and slid, my shoulder (then 
>>> several other points) hit and stuck like velcro to the sharp shards of the 
>>> road surface taking out scoops of flesh each time until I slowed to a 
>>> slide. I was a bloody mess, my helmet was but for one piece of lining pad 
>>> in two pieces and my left shoulder not quite right.
>>>
>>> My cohorts on this adventure had lead more gentle lives to this point 
>>> and hadn't been around many in-person injuries or blood. My shoulder was 
>>> separated (collar bone no longer connected to the projection of the 
>>> shoulder blade...ligament broken) and I needed to get going. No cars passed 
>>> us in the previous hours, no cell phone coverage and dark clouds across the 
>>> western half of the sky. Our overnight was 43 miles away so I got up and 
>>> rode there. The others, in shock from their experience of my injuries, did 
>>> ultimately follow.
>>>
>>> Getting away with your head and contents functioning permits better 
>>> stories to tell later. I emailed Grant about my ride after being all torn 
>>> up and bloody, my jersey hem pullled into a sling and my orange Rambouillet 
>>> rideable with one hand. These seemed liike options and observations 
>>> resulting from being reasonable and prudent about wearing a helmet. Being 
>>> thusly rewarded I continue to choose the paradigm I followed after having 
>>> experienced my brain being bashed about inside my young skull and the 
>>> resulting bruising that caused. It surely saved me this time and was just 
>>> on my head for an 80 mile ride out and back on the GAP Monday and 
>>> Tuesday.[image: 
>>> 85A9C7C6-2E3B-4530-BE90-ABE2A317E084_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 5:27:36 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 [image: 
 oMe3QaPR4E9b7DDpDnQFwbXwIfYum0EBKDB8bA~tplv-photomode-video-share-card:1200:630:20.jpeg]

 1.1M likes, 21.3K comments. “Sound ON for this one…with #FathersDay 
 tomorrow I have very important message for all the dads out there…WEAR A 
 HELMET ! This week I had a really bad accident while riding my bike in 
 Connecticut. I'm doing ok and did not break any bones or suffer any

[RBW] Re: NBD - Purple Appaloosa

[Kim H.]

@Dan,

Very well written report !  Thank-you for sharing. 
I am happy for you that you are enjoying your new Appaloosa. 
Long may you ride and explore to brighter smiles and joy in your personal 
Outback.

Cheers to you from the PNW !

Kim Hetzel.
52cm Clem "L".

On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 7:18:36 AM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:

> I like drop bars, just not the Straggler.  It was pretty and took 650b 
> wheels but felt heavy and dull to me. Mine was small (51?). Might be better 
> in larger sizes. Mine felt stiff and stout and had no glide.  
>
> Your bike looks better and better. Curious to learn your opinion of those 
> tires. They look very capable. How do they ride?  I have Schwalbe Marathon 
> Supremes on mine. Feels very Cadillac. Curious too about the quick rack. I 
> like to have the rack mounted to the eyelets. Not sure the benefit of 
> mounting to the seat post. Is that the quick part? 
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 5:10:49 AM UTC-6 Dan wrote:
>
>> Valerie, it's comforting to hear that others have made the same journey 
>> as me.
>> My Straggler has found its place in my stable as the drop-bar and 
>> fendered bike. I like having the option to ride drops! To further 
>> differentiate it from the Appaloosa, though, I've removed the rear rack and 
>> added a front low-rider rack, shaving about 1kg of weight in the process.
>>
>> I'll share more photos as it reaches its final form. I'm still waiting on 
>> the dynamo light install, and I've swapped out the light and fast (but 
>> fragile) Panaracer Driver Pro tyres for Ultradynamico Mars Robustos. Oh, 
>> and I bought an Ortlieb Quick Rack rear rack to use on the bike, which fits 
>> PERFECTLY, is sturdy, and really is as easy to put on / remove as they 
>> claim.
>>
>> With the new tyres:
>> [image: IMG_2049.jpeg]
>>
>> The Quick Rack:
>> [image: IMG_1649.jpeg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your Riv with Bullmoose bars

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That’s a 200mm’er on your Bombadil, yes? That’s my dream-moose, only 
available with those Bombadils, I’ve heard. Good luck getting it back into 
the fold.
-Kai

On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 11:42:35 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I hope someday to be reunited with this one.  My former Bombadil:
>
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5236885742/in/album-72157623611013487/
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, cA
>
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 6:42:58 PM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>
>> As everyone knows, having a stem or a handlebar in the workshop and *not* 
>> attached to a bike is a very dangerous situation. I find myself in a double 
>> hazard with a Bullmoose handlebar / quill stem in the shop, not attached to 
>> any bike. The one proven safety measure in such a situation is to build 
>> a bike around it. As everyone knows. 
>>
>> So, inspire me with your awesomest Bullmoosey-ist builds! 
>>
>> - Max "double trouble" in A2 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Grant’s Mountain

[John Dewey]

I ride the back roads around Petaluma and that Diablo scene is always in
view. Seems to me each peak ought to have a name—Diablo #1 and Diablo #2.

Jock

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> My Diablo, just now, from an Oakland-bound train.
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[RBW] Re: Show me your Riv with Bullmoose bars

[Bill Lindsay]

My Bullmoose was indeed a 200mm variant.

BL in EC

On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 10:40:24 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> That’s a 200mm’er on your Bombadil, yes? That’s my dream-moose, only 
> available with those Bombadils, I’ve heard. Good luck getting it back into 
> the fold.
> -Kai
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 11:42:35 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I hope someday to be reunited with this one.  My former Bombadil:
>>
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5236885742/in/album-72157623611013487/
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, cA
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 6:42:58 PM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> As everyone knows, having a stem or a handlebar in the workshop and 
>>> *not* attached to a bike is a very dangerous situation. I find myself 
>>> in a double hazard with a Bullmoose handlebar / quill stem in the shop, not 
>>> attached to any bike. The one proven safety measure in such a situation 
>>> is to build a bike around it. As everyone knows. 
>>>
>>> So, inspire me with your awesomest Bullmoosey-ist builds! 
>>>
>>> - Max "double trouble" in A2 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Repaired Susie and Intro post

[James Warren]

Ressurectio decals!


> On Jun 17, 2024, at 9:36 PM, R. Alexis  wrote:
> 
> Was wondering what happened to this frame. The original poster never replied 
> that I saw when I inquired about it way later. Your repair looks good. Nice 
> to see it rolling. Should get some Protovelo decals from Rivendell and then 
> paint it. There is that bike paint that Old Shovel uses, 
> https://spraybike.us/ that may work. Strip down or partial strip then paint 
> leaving the areas that have good paint still. Don't know if that would work. 
> 
> Reginald Alexis
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:34:08 AM UTC-5 James ODonnell wrote:
> 
> Introducing myself and my Susie W L that I picked up in the following state 
> from a list member (original thread 
> ).
> 
> 
> After aligning the fork and rear triangle, I did some practice brazes, hand 
> mitered some tubes, chucked it all in a basic fixture and did my best to 
> match the original geometry based on a chart Will @ Rivendell kindly shared 
> with me. To my surprise I managed to produce a frame that rides straight and 
> has held up to almost a year of riding. 
> 
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[RBW] FS

[Bill Fulford]

For sale, Ahearne/map 610/25.4 silver handlebars with nitto Tallux 13 cm 
stem. $110 shipped conus. Contact direct. ~Bill 

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[RBW] Re: WTB- 200mm bullmoose bars

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Still hoping… 🙏
-Kai

On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 10:54:35 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> Anybody have a looong bullmoose bar they're not using? I just swapped out 
> bars on my Rosco Bubbe mega mixte and need a few more cm of extension. I've 
> got good stuffs for trade as well, please PM if you can help me out. 
> kaivierstra at gmail.com 
> Thanks 
> -Kai 
> BKNY 

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[RBW] Re: FS Clem Smith Jr L 52cm in RBW blue

[NYCbikeguy]

Sold

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 12:34:28 AM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> Located in New Haven, CT.
> Can meet in NYC.
>
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 12:33:57 AM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>
>> PICS: 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1efdPqI-qEUd5bfXgWU_YUpgRLUqDr6R6?usp=drive_link
>>
>> $1800 
>>
>> new 10sp Deore RD
>> new 10sp cassette
>> used Rene Herse 171mm 40T
>> used Deore hubs and Ryde Andra40 rims <100 miles
>> used Thompson Elite seat post 
>> used CRUST/Nitto faceplate stem
>> used A.Hearne swept back handlebar
>> used Avid brake levers 
>> new Shimano standard V-brakes. 
>> used Brooks B17 (barely broken in) 
>> used cork grips 
>> used leather saddle bag
>> used panaracer Gravelking 650x48b (<100 miles). 
>>
>> I have extra accessories available upon request (paul bits, fresh monarch 
>> pedals, panniers, fenders, etc.) and can help install. Shipping available 
>> at buyer’s expense. Not open to trades.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Platypus S24O

[Steve]

What a great ride  - especially doing it with your son. Thanks for the 
report.

Steve
On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 7:36:33 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Intrigued by recent examples and talks of light touring on a Platypus 
> (Leah, Diana H, Tim B), and spotting an opportunity to get out Tuesday 
> evening in advance of the Juneteenth holiday, I packed two of my bikes up 
> for a light weight, sub-twelve hour overnight with my son. Our destination 
> was a local town owned forest with several primitive camp sites (no 
> facilities) less than a 10-mile ride away.
>
> This outing served a few purposes, 1) to see how the Platypus would fare 
> with a light overnight load, 2) to see just how light a load I could get 
> away with for two people (each with their own sleep setup), and 3) to see 
> how my middle son (the one most interested in bike rides with dad), would 
> take to pedaling his own load.
>
> My Platypus carried my sleeping gear, stove kit (unused), bike tool kit, 
> and a few bars for food (an advantage of waiting until after dinner to ride 
> out). My son's bike carried his sleeping gear (using a seat pack and 
> harness setup). Massachusetts is in the midst of a heat wave with highs 
> near 100F and lows in the 70s, so we didn't need to pack extra sleeping 
> layers and could use minimal bedding.
>
> The Platypus did great - due to the minimal packing load my Happisack 
> weighed under 9lbs and my Tunitas basket bag under 5lbs. My stem bag 
> carried an extra 32oz of water (unused). My son enjoyed the overnight and 
> is open to doing a longer ride (~30mi each way) out to a State Forest 
> campground (with facilities!). We'll need to carry more food (and possibly 
> layers) on that trip; putting a couple of more lbs on the Platy and using a 
> frame bag on my son's bike should do the trick.
>
> [image: PXL_20240619_100254533_k64-1800.jpg]
> [image: ig2.jpg]
>
> [image: ig3.jpg]
>
> -Dave
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus S24O

[Pam Bikes]

Great trip!  S24Os are great for trying everything out.  Lots of great 
campsites from local ones to state parks to nat'l forests,etc.  I've used 
my Betty Foy for light touring.  I've lived off my bike for 2 weeks at a 
time.  Thanks for sharing.

On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 10:07:55 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> What a great ride  - especially doing it with your son. Thanks for the 
> report.
>
> Steve
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 7:36:33 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Intrigued by recent examples and talks of light touring on a Platypus 
>> (Leah, Diana H, Tim B), and spotting an opportunity to get out Tuesday 
>> evening in advance of the Juneteenth holiday, I packed two of my bikes up 
>> for a light weight, sub-twelve hour overnight with my son. Our destination 
>> was a local town owned forest with several primitive camp sites (no 
>> facilities) less than a 10-mile ride away.
>>
>> This outing served a few purposes, 1) to see how the Platypus would fare 
>> with a light overnight load, 2) to see just how light a load I could get 
>> away with for two people (each with their own sleep setup), and 3) to see 
>> how my middle son (the one most interested in bike rides with dad), would 
>> take to pedaling his own load.
>>
>> My Platypus carried my sleeping gear, stove kit (unused), bike tool kit, 
>> and a few bars for food (an advantage of waiting until after dinner to ride 
>> out). My son's bike carried his sleeping gear (using a seat pack and 
>> harness setup). Massachusetts is in the midst of a heat wave with highs 
>> near 100F and lows in the 70s, so we didn't need to pack extra sleeping 
>> layers and could use minimal bedding.
>>
>> The Platypus did great - due to the minimal packing load my Happisack 
>> weighed under 9lbs and my Tunitas basket bag under 5lbs. My stem bag 
>> carried an extra 32oz of water (unused). My son enjoyed the overnight and 
>> is open to doing a longer ride (~30mi each way) out to a State Forest 
>> campground (with facilities!). We'll need to carry more food (and possibly 
>> layers) on that trip; putting a couple of more lbs on the Platy and using a 
>> frame bag on my son's bike should do the trick.
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240619_100254533_k64-1800.jpg]
>> [image: ig2.jpg]
>>
>> [image: ig3.jpg]
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

[Pam Bikes]

T

On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 11:51:49 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> No but I think it is a good idea, thank you. 
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 11:05:30 AM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> @jrstern - have you ever been examined for inner ear problems?  Might be 
>> a worthwhile thing to do.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 9:11:45 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> As I am getting older I find my balance is not as good as it used to be. 
>>> At 72 I had not worn a helmet in many years. 3 1/2 weeks ago I took a bad 
>>> spill, tire hitting a raised curve on a bike trail, one I use to get to 
>>> quiet street to ride. My reflexes are not as good as they used to be. I 
>>> landed on my left side, bruised forehead, skin tissue damage on my left 
>>> side at shoulder and ribs. I took 2 short rides this week,  with a helmet, 
>>> I don’t like them but but my balancing seems to be a bit off, maybe a mixte 
>>> would be better now. I’ve been sleeping in my recliner as it has been the 
>>> most comfortable place. I will wear a helmet now as age may dictate better 
>>> protection. I also think tha wider bars I use now offer less control as I 
>>> had 3 near balance issues yesterday at very slow speeds. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 7:32:26 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 It boils down to the potential for a sudden stop, primarily your head 
 and something of greater mass. Inertia is the culprit even if you have a 
 hard head your brain is floating inside it tethered only to your spinal 
 cord. 

 I guess in tort law it is standard not to expect a person to be 
 responsible for the infinite possible acts of others but to demonstrate 
 the 
 choices of a reasonably prudent person. 

 Those two things exist. I was struck from my bike by the side mirror of 
 a passing truck without a helmet the spring of tenth grade. I didn't 
 remember things or people for days. An MRI, three nights in the hospital, 
 finally recognizing my dad and a neurosurgeon when talking about how to 
 address my subdural hematoma. The back left of my head felt like an 
 overripe banana was under the flesh. I didn't know what a craniotomy was 
 but am happy my dad chose letting all the blood reabsorb on its own, even 
 though it meant a debilitating headache and bedrest for most of three 
 months. Learning to walk again after the deconditioning and weight loss 
 was 
 bad. 

 Riding my new Rambouillet cross country years later I suffered a rear 
 tire slash going 40mph downhill. Before I could get stopped I had some 
 steering to do which I was unable to do any longer and went over in a high 
 side. The road was freshly chip topped tar using what they had around 
 which 
 was very hard, granite-like. I hit it with the back left of my head and 
 nearly top of my shoulder. My helmet broke and slid, my shoulder (then 
 several other points) hit and stuck like velcro to the sharp shards of the 
 road surface taking out scoops of flesh each time until I slowed to a 
 slide. I was a bloody mess, my helmet was but for one piece of lining pad 
 in two pieces and my left shoulder not quite right.

 My cohorts on this adventure had lead more gentle lives to this point 
 and hadn't been around many in-person injuries or blood. My shoulder was 
 separated (collar bone no longer connected to the projection of the 
 shoulder blade...ligament broken) and I needed to get going. No cars 
 passed 
 us in the previous hours, no cell phone coverage and dark clouds across 
 the 
 western half of the sky. Our overnight was 43 miles away so I got up and 
 rode there. The others, in shock from their experience of my injuries, did 
 ultimately follow.

 Getting away with your head and contents functioning permits better 
 stories to tell later. I emailed Grant about my ride after being all torn 
 up and bloody, my jersey hem pullled into a sling and my orange 
 Rambouillet 
 rideable with one hand. These seemed liike options and observations 
 resulting from being reasonable and prudent about wearing a helmet. Being 
 thusly rewarded I continue to choose the paradigm I followed after having 
 experienced my brain being bashed about inside my young skull and the 
 resulting bruising that caused. It surely saved me this time and was just 
 on my head for an 80 mile ride out and back on the GAP Monday and 
 Tuesday.[image: 
 85A9C7C6-2E3B-4530-BE90-ABE2A317E084_1_105_c.jpeg]
 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh



 On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 5:27:36 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> [image: 
> oMe3QaPR4E9b7DDpDnQFwbXwIfYum0EBKDB8bA~tplv-photomode-video-share-card:1200:630:20.jpeg]
>
> 1.1M likes, 21.3K comments. “Sound ON for this one…with #FathersDay 
> tomorrow I have very

[RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

[Pam Bikes]

A helmet is never a bad idea.  The pavement is hard whether you're in your 
driveway alone or w/a a group.  Most bike crashes are solo falls.  Helmets 
can help.   More upside than downside to wearing a helmet.  I'd rather plan 
my next ride than waste time deciding whether to wear a helmet and when.  I 
just wear it all the time.

On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 11:51:49 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> No but I think it is a good idea, thank you. 
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 11:05:30 AM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> @jrstern - have you ever been examined for inner ear problems?  Might be 
>> a worthwhile thing to do.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 9:11:45 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> As I am getting older I find my balance is not as good as it used to be. 
>>> At 72 I had not worn a helmet in many years. 3 1/2 weeks ago I took a bad 
>>> spill, tire hitting a raised curve on a bike trail, one I use to get to 
>>> quiet street to ride. My reflexes are not as good as they used to be. I 
>>> landed on my left side, bruised forehead, skin tissue damage on my left 
>>> side at shoulder and ribs. I took 2 short rides this week,  with a helmet, 
>>> I don’t like them but but my balancing seems to be a bit off, maybe a mixte 
>>> would be better now. I’ve been sleeping in my recliner as it has been the 
>>> most comfortable place. I will wear a helmet now as age may dictate better 
>>> protection. I also think tha wider bars I use now offer less control as I 
>>> had 3 near balance issues yesterday at very slow speeds. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 7:32:26 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 It boils down to the potential for a sudden stop, primarily your head 
 and something of greater mass. Inertia is the culprit even if you have a 
 hard head your brain is floating inside it tethered only to your spinal 
 cord. 

 I guess in tort law it is standard not to expect a person to be 
 responsible for the infinite possible acts of others but to demonstrate 
 the 
 choices of a reasonably prudent person. 

 Those two things exist. I was struck from my bike by the side mirror of 
 a passing truck without a helmet the spring of tenth grade. I didn't 
 remember things or people for days. An MRI, three nights in the hospital, 
 finally recognizing my dad and a neurosurgeon when talking about how to 
 address my subdural hematoma. The back left of my head felt like an 
 overripe banana was under the flesh. I didn't know what a craniotomy was 
 but am happy my dad chose letting all the blood reabsorb on its own, even 
 though it meant a debilitating headache and bedrest for most of three 
 months. Learning to walk again after the deconditioning and weight loss 
 was 
 bad. 

 Riding my new Rambouillet cross country years later I suffered a rear 
 tire slash going 40mph downhill. Before I could get stopped I had some 
 steering to do which I was unable to do any longer and went over in a high 
 side. The road was freshly chip topped tar using what they had around 
 which 
 was very hard, granite-like. I hit it with the back left of my head and 
 nearly top of my shoulder. My helmet broke and slid, my shoulder (then 
 several other points) hit and stuck like velcro to the sharp shards of the 
 road surface taking out scoops of flesh each time until I slowed to a 
 slide. I was a bloody mess, my helmet was but for one piece of lining pad 
 in two pieces and my left shoulder not quite right.

 My cohorts on this adventure had lead more gentle lives to this point 
 and hadn't been around many in-person injuries or blood. My shoulder was 
 separated (collar bone no longer connected to the projection of the 
 shoulder blade...ligament broken) and I needed to get going. No cars 
 passed 
 us in the previous hours, no cell phone coverage and dark clouds across 
 the 
 western half of the sky. Our overnight was 43 miles away so I got up and 
 rode there. The others, in shock from their experience of my injuries, did 
 ultimately follow.

 Getting away with your head and contents functioning permits better 
 stories to tell later. I emailed Grant about my ride after being all torn 
 up and bloody, my jersey hem pullled into a sling and my orange 
 Rambouillet 
 rideable with one hand. These seemed liike options and observations 
 resulting from being reasonable and prudent about wearing a helmet. Being 
 thusly rewarded I continue to choose the paradigm I followed after having 
 experienced my brain being bashed about inside my young skull and the 
 resulting bruising that caused. It surely saved me this time and was just 
 on my head for an 80 mile ride out and back on the GAP Monday and 
 Tuesday.[image: 
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 Andy Cheatha

Re: [RBW] Re: Now officially a member

[Pam Bikes]

Please update us how you like it after a few rides or a few hundred miles 
which won't be long.  I'm sure it rides like a dream.  What a beauty!

On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 6:59:54 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

>
> Lovely lime-olive!  Enjoy your ride. And, if you can ride with Leah in a 
> few weeks you’ll find her happiness infectious. 
>
> Roberta 
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 5:36:02 PM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>> Still needs some racks and other changes, but here she is.
>>
>> Thinking of having some 44 slicks on for when I’m on the road (opinions 
>> welcome). And possibly swapping the Shimano dyno hub and the light with the 
>> SON and Edelux I have on my other bike. 
>>
>> Will likely never be done with accessorizing. Considering Pass and Stow 
>> rack instead of the Nitto. And unsure of direction with fenders. 
>>
>> Relative to the N+1 crowd, heard. Small garage and a mental focus on 
>> minimizing the “stuff” I don’t use…I may sell the old bike. It may become 
>> something else. Will see….
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:17 PM, Mathias Steiner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Welcome indeed.
>> You MUST be new here -- where are the pictures??
>>
>> Also congratulations on New Bike Day. You added to your quiver, all good.
>>
>> But where does this "bike to sell" idea come from..? 
>> N+1
>>
>> cheers -mathias
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 7:18:57 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Welcome T!!
>>> Happy Rolling
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:46:26 AM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Picked up my Platypus today at Mack's Bike and Goods here in Evanston, 
 IL. Rode my old bike there, and left it at the shop (maybe forever?). Put 
 30 miles on the tires, and almost 2 hours of smiles on my face. 

 Team at Riv (James in this instance) were supportive in the shopping 
 phase. 

 All good. Now I've an old bike to sell.

 T

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