[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The chain holder is a brilliant idea! (I will have to try it on mine.)
A meticulous build -- I like all the set screws protecting threads.
David Lipsky in Berkeley, CA
On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 4:56:44 PM UTC-7 Armand Kizirian wrote:

> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. 
> 
>  
> *
>
> Cockpit features a Nitto 135mm Faceplater Stem with Rons Ortho Bars, 
> Brooks leather ergon grips with Simworks purple bar ends, Rivendell S2 
> friction shifters, with harlequin style newbuams purple/yellow wrap with 
> clear shellac, and a stem-mounted spurcycle bell. S83 seatpost with Brooks 
> B17 titanium. NOS Dura-Ace headset.
>
> [image: IMG_3282.JPG]
>
> Brakes feature Paul Canti Levers with Touring Canti’s, Moon units, and 
> Hunter cycles Nugz for extra cable adjustment. Rene herse and nitto cable 
> hangars. Yokozuna reaction compressionless housing. All capped off with 
> Forager cycles cable cherries. Kool stop brake pads with the grey e-bike 
> pad compound. This was my final hurrah to test the ultimate canti-lever 
> brake setup and deem its worthiness as a brake. It has not passed by test. 
> Riv recommends v-brakes for several valid reasons.
>
> Custom wheelset featuring White Industries MI5 hubs laced to Velocity 
> Quill rims with Sapim spokes and brass nipples, 32h front, 36h rear, all 
> polished. Rene Herse Tires, 48mm Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge. I will 
> likely keep an endurance casing Oracle ridge as a final tire choice, setup 
> tubeless with Ultradynamico brass tubeless valves. I like riding fast, 
> especially on dirt. 
>
> Drivetrain features an ultra rare 110/73bcd Middleburn lightweight road 
> triple with 42/28t gearing and Rivendell chain guard and brass 
> self-extractors. Aluminum Sugino 28t chainring and aluminum chainring 
> hardware for weight reduction. NOS Dura-Ace 7700 sealed cartridge Bottom 
> bracket. Pedals are MKS Pretzel with shorter 4-5mm length brass set screws 
> to replace the 6mm long aggressive steel pins. Ultegra PD-ES600 SPD pedals 
> for longer rides when I want to be clipped in. Deore XT 9-speed 11-34 
> cassette, with NOS Dura Ace 7700 mid-cage rear derailleur (wolftooth 
> roadlink to clear the 34t), Dura Ace 7800 double front derailleur. KMC 
> 10-speed X10SL with the gold treatment, because, gold! This all shifts 
> *wonderfully.*
>
> Accessories include Nitto F32 front rack with Tanaka stainless steel 
> basket held by Voile mini straps, Nitto 32r rear rack with cygolite rear 
> light mount. Front rack features upcycled 28t chainring for my cygolite 
> go-pro mount (blue lug style) and M6 brass set screws to fill the unused 
> braze-ons. Blue Lug yellow X-Strap bungee cords front and rear, with the x2 
> rainbow Rivendell straps laced through the basket to handle any odd things 
> to carry on the fly. Beautiful Nitto R bottle cage on top, with ultra rare 
> matching Nitto BG-L 1-liter bottle cage on the bottom. Greenfield kickstand 
> wrapped with newbaums purple. Purple Blue Lug Koma lights front and rear at 
> the drop-outs for when I forget to bring my nicer lights. Newbaums wrap on 
> top tube for convenient handle grip when carrying up/down stairs to the 
> train. Blue lug style newbaums chainstay guard. Hemp twine features 
> everywhere. Lastly, any unused braze-ons are populated with M5 brass set 
> screws, including the backside of the utilized hourglass mounts 😉
>
> Security includes hexlox axles, with the same keyed inserts for the 
> seatpost clamp, stem, and saddle. GPS sticker for theft deterrent. Hidden 
> air tag. Serial number registered in two bike indexes. I purchased a 
> Kryptonite mini New York u-lock off ebay ($60 new!). It is absurd and 
> confidence inspiring. Makes my evolution mini u-lock look like a joke. 
>
> One bit I forgot to mention. The inner position of the lower rear right 
> rack mount are positioned perfectly for a chain holder, as 80's touring 
> bikes used to have. An Acetal bushing with delrin washers result in not 
> just a chain holder, but the ability to backpedal and lube the chain wit 
> the wheel off. 
>
>
> Thanks for reading! 
> Armand 
> Santa Monica, CA
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

[Bones]

That’s a really cool bag, Nick. Thanks for sharing. Most handlebar bags 
I’ve come across are too large and bulky. This one is a great size and 
shape.

Bones

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 11:50:07 PM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:

> On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 1:03:44 pm UTC+10 Chester wrote:
>
> Really appreciate bigger sensors being available in pocketable packages. I 
> don't ride in jerseys any more, so I haven't settled on the best way to 
> carry even a really compact camera like an RX100 or GR. Even when just 
> riding with my phone, with it in the pocket of a normal pair of shorts, 
> it's not a great to wrestle it out while pedaling. Have ridding a couple 
> times with the RX100 in a stem pouch and that's probably the best carry 
> option I've used so far. Ir maybe that sort of bag worn on a belt, or...a 
> fanny pack.
>
>
> For carrying phone/cameras, I've been using one of the Routewerks 
> handlebar bags for several years. I have a Quadlock mount on the lid, so 
> that's where my phone sits, which makes it extremely easy to grab for a 
> quick photo, and although the bag is quite small, there's enough room 
> inside for both my Leica Q2M and RX100 if I want to carry both. Being a 
> handlebar bag that's not supported underneath, it provides a degrees of 
> insulation from bumps and vibration:
>
> [image: DSC01063.jpg] [image: PXL_20240516_031441761.jpg]
>
> Nick Payne
>

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

[Andrew Joseph]

Can any Sam owner out there confirm there is tire clearance for BG Rock ‘n Road 48s?  My Sam is from the previous run…Sent from my iPhoneOn May 15, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Ted Durant  wrote:On May 15, 2024, at 3:15 PM, reeb  wrote:almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i be going for the 48 or 51 for casual city rides with maybe once a month camping treks (most likely upright bars)? My saddle height is 70cm (PBH 81ish). Here’s what it looks like on a 51:
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks B68

[J S]

Condition and price?

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 11:59 PM jeffbog...@hotmail.com <
jeffbogdanov...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have one, PM sent
>
> On Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 09:38:10 UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Anyone have a fairly new B68 you are looking to sell?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joel
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

[Andrew Joseph]

Thanks Ted!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2024, at 8:42 AM, Ted Durant  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2024, at 7:43 AM, Andrew Joseph  wrote:
>> 
>> Can any Sam owner out there confirm there is tire clearance for BG Rock ‘n 
>> Road 48s?  My Sam is from the previous run…
>> 
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> Gravel King SK 48s, fwiw.
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> Ted Durant
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[RBW] FS: 58 Toyo Atlantis frameset

[Greg Sonstein]

Please email me for details
If interested. Asking $1800.

GMS

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

[Donzaemon]

Love that color! It’s in my size too!

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 1:42:19 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> On May 15, 2024, at 3:15 PM, reeb  wrote:
>
> almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i 
> be going for the 48 or 51 for casual city rides with maybe once a month 
> camping treks (most likely upright bars)? 
>
>
> My saddle height is 70cm (PBH 81ish). Here’s what it looks like on a 51:
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
> [image: Rivendell - Bike Owners-4.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: Photos from last weekend's overnighter

[Minh]

great pics, looks like fun!  is there a sleeping pad somewhere in that 
gear?  that's the one item i'm having some trouble packing on the bike!

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:11:07 AM UTC-4 Takashi wrote:

> Thank you all for nice comments.
>
> Diana, tires are Schwalbe Thunder Burt 29 x 2.1.
>
> John, I believe that, with less humidity, you can take equally (or more) 
> gorgeous stars photo in Arizona, can't you?
>
> Takashi
>
> 2024年5月14日火曜日 0:41:30 UTC+9 eric...@gmail.com:
>
>> Wow, the sky
>>
>> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 4:44:38 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Beautiful! It never fails that I miss Japan so after seeing your photos. 
>>> I really love the one of your Hunq among the stars.
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 5:51:56 AM UTC-7 diana@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Awesome shots. What size tires were you running?

 On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 1:02:49 PM UTC-6 Josh C wrote:

> That's just perfect. Thanks for sharing. 
>
> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 12:34:35 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Fantastic shots Takashi! I especially like the Starlight shot.
>>
>> John
>> Portland OR
>>
>> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 7:26:07 AM UTC-7 Takashi wrote:
>>
>>> Here are some photos from last weekend's overnighter.
>>> I rode almost same route last year and two years ago, so I didn't 
>>> take many photos.
>>>
>>> Hunqapillar loaded up.
>>> For this load, I think TourSacks (rear panniers) would have worked 
>>> better.
>>> [image: ov1.jpg]
>>>
>>> Momosuke Bridge:
>>> [image: ov2.jpg]
>>>
>>> Short ramble around the campsite:
>>> [image: ov3.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: ov4.jpg]
>>>
>>> Obligatory starlight shot:
>>> [image: ov5.jpg]
>>>
>>> The vertical line is an airplane which happened to fly over me:
>>> [image: ov6.jpg]
>>>
>>> Takashi
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: The 3x1 road bike. Anticipating some of your RoadUNO builds

[Bill Lindsay]

Rear rack in place now on my Romulus.  It's a full on "sport touring" build 
now.

https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53724531148/in/photostream/

The very last bit will be to get a dynamo setup.  Aside from that, it's 
ready for overnighter duty.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 4:05:20 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> ...and now, fully set up as a 3x8 with a different rear wheel.  I deployed 
> a Rivendell endorsed "cheap RD", and an 8sp barcon.  Pics prove it:
>
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53706446278/in/album-72177720310604809/
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53706670515/in/album-72177720310604809/
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:32:22 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> One more significant step to a fully equipped "sport tourer" is now in 
>> place on my RoadTrio.  Soma recently had a tax-day 65% off sale on selected 
>> items, and one of the items was skinny (41mm) Honjo smooth fenders.  I'm 
>> used to paying $200 for Honjo fenders.  Soma had this model at $90 MSRP, 
>> and so 65% off was $31.50, so it felt like stealing.  Anyway, I finished 
>> the full-fender install last night.  The current tires on there are 27mm, 
>> and I could go a tiny bit wider with 41mm fenders, but it'll be skinny 
>> tires all the time.  
>>
>> Pics prove it:
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53692239929/in/dateposted/
>>
>> The next move is a rear rack, which I have picked out, but will have to 
>> save up to order.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The alternate configuration for this Romulus is going to be a re-think 
>>> of a popular build configuration when I first got into cycling in the early 
>>> 1980s: "sport tourer".  My first drop bar bike was. a 1983 Univega 
>>> Sportour.  It had 28mm tires, a fairly wide range 2x6 drivetrain, and 
>>> attach points for racks and/or fenders.  I've put skinny 27mm tires on the 
>>> Romulus to accommodate full aluminum fenders, which I'll install this week. 
>>>  I have a rear wheel built on the same rim that will take a 8/9/10 speed 
>>> cassette.  I think I'm going to set that up with an 8sp 12-32.  Then add a 
>>> single bar-con shifter and replace the tensioner with a rear derailleur and 
>>> it's a light touring bike.  
>>>
>>> For truly light loads the 3x1drivetrain will suffice, but with a 3x8 I'd 
>>> be ready for anything (provided it's paved).  The trick in the setup will 
>>> be to see how "quick change" I can make it.  There are a couple details in 
>>> the set up that I believe could make it a ~5 minute switch.  We'll see how 
>>> it shakes out.  I
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 11:26:36 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Thanks to unintentional prodding from Leah, I've pressed my new-to-me 
 Romulus into service.  Some serindipitous objects in my parts inventory 
 enabled a build concept that is functionally similar to the forthcoming 
 RoadUNO.  It's got a single 18T freewheel, a Paul Melvin tensioner (from 
 Joe B), a triple crank with 46/36/24 rings and a single DT shifter for the 
 front derailleur.  This morning I "upgraded" the front derailleur to a 
 Campy Mirage, which qualifies this bike for my "Every Bike should have one 
 Campy Part" club:

 https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157719595208740/

 The other upgrade from this morning is I swapped out the front wheel to 
 a quick release front hub, rather than the bolt-on Phil track hub.  I will 
 likely rebuild that Phil front wheel with a dynamo hub.  Now the F+R hubs 
 are both black.  Also, I "downgraded" to much skinnier tires.  This 
 accomplishes two things: It allows wheel removal without deflation -AND- 
 it 
 generates ample clearance for fenders.  The three gears are 35/53/68 
 inches 
 with these tires.  

 I'm becoming progressively more and more "SOLD" on the validity of 3x1 
 as a build concept.  It works.  I may end up doing my May 2024 monthly 
 Diablo summit on the RoadTrio.  

 Even though I'm not buying a RoadUNO, I'm excited to see who else gives 
 3x1 a try with an open mind and concurs that it works for them.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58 Toyo Atlantis frameset

[Hoch in ut]

With everyone on high alert with fraudulent ads lately, I’d highly suggest 
posting details, location, and pictures. 
On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 7:50:49 AM UTC-6 gson...@gmail.com wrote:

> Please email me for details
> If interested. Asking $1800.
>
> GMS
>

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[RBW] Re: The 3x1 road bike. Anticipating some of your RoadUNO builds

[Drew Fitchette]

That rear rack is in fact the perfect one. 

I think the Salsa Stem is actually my favorite part of the whole build. 
Crushed it Bill!

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 10:35:06 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Rear rack in place now on my Romulus.  It's a full on "sport touring" 
> build now.
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53724531148/in/photostream/
>
> The very last bit will be to get a dynamo setup.  Aside from that, it's 
> ready for overnighter duty.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 4:05:20 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> ...and now, fully set up as a 3x8 with a different rear wheel.  I 
>> deployed a Rivendell endorsed "cheap RD", and an 8sp barcon.  Pics prove it:
>>
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53706446278/in/album-72177720310604809/
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53706670515/in/album-72177720310604809/
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:32:22 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> One more significant step to a fully equipped "sport tourer" is now in 
>>> place on my RoadTrio.  Soma recently had a tax-day 65% off sale on selected 
>>> items, and one of the items was skinny (41mm) Honjo smooth fenders.  I'm 
>>> used to paying $200 for Honjo fenders.  Soma had this model at $90 MSRP, 
>>> and so 65% off was $31.50, so it felt like stealing.  Anyway, I finished 
>>> the full-fender install last night.  The current tires on there are 27mm, 
>>> and I could go a tiny bit wider with 41mm fenders, but it'll be skinny 
>>> tires all the time.  
>>>
>>> Pics prove it:
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53692239929/in/dateposted/
>>>
>>> The next move is a rear rack, which I have picked out, but will have to 
>>> save up to order.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 The alternate configuration for this Romulus is going to be a re-think 
 of a popular build configuration when I first got into cycling in the 
 early 
 1980s: "sport tourer".  My first drop bar bike was. a 1983 Univega 
 Sportour.  It had 28mm tires, a fairly wide range 2x6 drivetrain, and 
 attach points for racks and/or fenders.  I've put skinny 27mm tires on the 
 Romulus to accommodate full aluminum fenders, which I'll install this 
 week. 
  I have a rear wheel built on the same rim that will take a 8/9/10 speed 
 cassette.  I think I'm going to set that up with an 8sp 12-32.  Then add a 
 single bar-con shifter and replace the tensioner with a rear derailleur 
 and 
 it's a light touring bike.  

 For truly light loads the 3x1drivetrain will suffice, but with a 3x8 
 I'd be ready for anything (provided it's paved).  The trick in the setup 
 will be to see how "quick change" I can make it.  There are a couple 
 details in the set up that I believe could make it a ~5 minute switch. 
  We'll see how it shakes out.  I

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 11:26:36 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Thanks to unintentional prodding from Leah, I've pressed my new-to-me 
> Romulus into service.  Some serindipitous objects in my parts inventory 
> enabled a build concept that is functionally similar to the forthcoming 
> RoadUNO.  It's got a single 18T freewheel, a Paul Melvin tensioner (from 
> Joe B), a triple crank with 46/36/24 rings and a single DT shifter for 
> the 
> front derailleur.  This morning I "upgraded" the front derailleur to a 
> Campy Mirage, which qualifies this bike for my "Every Bike should have 
> one 
> Campy Part" club:
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157719595208740/
>
> The other upgrade from this morning is I swapped out the front wheel 
> to a quick release front hub, rather than the bolt-on Phil track hub.  I 
> will likely rebuild that Phil front wheel with a dynamo hub.  Now the F+R 
> hubs are both black.  Also, I "downgraded" to much skinnier tires.  This 
> accomplishes two things: It allows wheel removal without deflation -AND- 
> it 
> generates ample clearance for fenders.  The three gears are 35/53/68 
> inches 
> with these tires.  
>
> I'm becoming progressively more and more "SOLD" on the validity of 3x1 
> as a build concept.  It works.  I may end up doing my May 2024 monthly 
> Diablo summit on the RoadTrio.  
>
> Even though I'm not buying a RoadUNO, I'm excited to see who else 
> gives 3x1 a try with an open mind and concurs that it works for them.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos

[Eric White]

Thanks for the link to that documentation. I believe mine is a 54cm 2014
model. It looks like I got the newer blue color with the older fork. It's a
bridge model, I guess!

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:07 AM Valerie Yates  wrote:

> Following up from a different thread re offshoot discussion of the San
> Marcos, the color changed between the 2013 Pearl Blue and 2015 Tiburon Blue
> versions, when they also expanded the range using 650b wheels to include
> the 54 and new 57 size.. Maybe the straight fork was retained on the
>  larger 650b sizes? The 59 and 63 had a double top tube and take 700c
> wheels. Mine is a 51 Tiburon Blue with 650b wheels.
>
> 2013:
> https://www.somafab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/san-marcos-flyer2.pdf
>
> 2015: https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/san-marcos-frame-set
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:11:47 PM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I bought mine from a friend of a friend and I've done a bit of poking
>> around on the history of the San Marcos but I still don't fully understand
>> the evolution of the fork and color.
>>
>> I used the Velo Orange band clamps for the third water bottle cage. It's
>> been rock solid and handy having the option for one more bottle.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:04 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting! I thought the color determined which fork it had. I also
>>> thought you were re-posting another pic of Gary's bike. Now, I understand
>>> you were replying to his pic with one of your own. Did you use band clamps
>>> to attach the third bottle holder?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:37:37 PM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Agreed. It's a great bike. Just a joy to ride. I find mine to be very
 steady and stable but there's nothing plodding about it. Here's mine in
 what I believe is the same color as yours, but without the more elegant
 fork.

 [image: PXL_20240421_165935710.jpg]

 On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 6:42 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:

> Gary -- I only saw the one, semi-sideways picture, which looks like it
> is in the other blue color, which I thought came with the straighter fork.
> But the picture that Eric re-posted looks like the same color as mine yet
> with a straighter fork. Do you have one in each color? Do both have the
> straighter fork curve? Mine does not have a 3rd set of bottle bosses. Did
> you rig yours as an add-on?
>
> Eric -- Here is mine. Such a great bike.  Light, nimble, and fluid yet
> handles gravel, etc. without issue. I have no idea why this was not a
> massive success. My sister-in-law has one too and so she keeps a saddle in
> my garage so she can borrow mine when she visits. Would love to see how it
> compares in geometry to the Roadini.
> [image: PXL_20240514_231824905.jpg]
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:26:48 AM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Looking good, Gary!
>>
>> On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:37 PM LBleriot 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_0374.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:45:46 PM UTC-4 eric.j...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 San Marcos, you say? Let's see a photo of that one, if you don't
 mind. You don't see too many in the wild!

 On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 5:50 PM Valerie Yates 
 wrote:

> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky
> smooth. Entirely comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San
> Marcos. Which is why I was able to let it go. I am so glad it is 
> living its
> best life.
>
> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you
> love it and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one 
> doesn't
> turn up, order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged 
> one
> is pending, then it depends on price and timing. 😁
>
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com
> wrote:
>
>> I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides
>> on a road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! 
>> I was
>> lucky to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as 
>> the
>> befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth 
>> tires
>> and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a 
>> surprise
>> midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride
>>
>> anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals
>> and my bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™
>> seem confused about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike 
>> doesn't
>> meet their expectations, the women and other folks always say

[RBW] Re: The 3x1 road bike. Anticipating some of your RoadUNO builds

[Bill Lindsay]

Thank you.  It's kind of a four decade anachronism.  A 1980s build concept 
and tire clearances.  1990s stem and 3x8 drivetrain.  2000s frame set. 
 2010s wheel set and handlebar.  2020s front rack and bag.  Timeless 1950s 
- 1960s metal fenders, retro-copy rear rack and saddle.  

I'm going to pull out my ultra-minimalist camping stuff and do a mock-up of 
how I might load it up for a potential summertime ride down the California 
Coast.  

BL in EC

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 7:45:27 AM UTC-7 Drew Fitchette wrote:

> That rear rack is in fact the perfect one. 
>
> I think the Salsa Stem is actually my favorite part of the whole build. 
> Crushed it Bill!
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 10:35:06 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Rear rack in place now on my Romulus.  It's a full on "sport touring" 
>> build now.
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53724531148/in/photostream/
>>
>> The very last bit will be to get a dynamo setup.  Aside from that, it's 
>> ready for overnighter duty.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 4:05:20 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> ...and now, fully set up as a 3x8 with a different rear wheel.  I 
>>> deployed a Rivendell endorsed "cheap RD", and an 8sp barcon.  Pics prove it:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53706446278/in/album-72177720310604809/
>>>
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53706670515/in/album-72177720310604809/
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:32:22 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 One more significant step to a fully equipped "sport tourer" is now in 
 place on my RoadTrio.  Soma recently had a tax-day 65% off sale on 
 selected 
 items, and one of the items was skinny (41mm) Honjo smooth fenders.  I'm 
 used to paying $200 for Honjo fenders.  Soma had this model at $90 MSRP, 
 and so 65% off was $31.50, so it felt like stealing.  Anyway, I finished 
 the full-fender install last night.  The current tires on there are 27mm, 
 and I could go a tiny bit wider with 41mm fenders, but it'll be skinny 
 tires all the time.  

 Pics prove it:
 https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53692239929/in/dateposted/

 The next move is a rear rack, which I have picked out, but will have to 
 save up to order.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The alternate configuration for this Romulus is going to be a re-think 
> of a popular build configuration when I first got into cycling in the 
> early 
> 1980s: "sport tourer".  My first drop bar bike was. a 1983 Univega 
> Sportour.  It had 28mm tires, a fairly wide range 2x6 drivetrain, and 
> attach points for racks and/or fenders.  I've put skinny 27mm tires on 
> the 
> Romulus to accommodate full aluminum fenders, which I'll install this 
> week. 
>  I have a rear wheel built on the same rim that will take a 8/9/10 speed 
> cassette.  I think I'm going to set that up with an 8sp 12-32.  Then add 
> a 
> single bar-con shifter and replace the tensioner with a rear derailleur 
> and 
> it's a light touring bike.  
>
> For truly light loads the 3x1drivetrain will suffice, but with a 3x8 
> I'd be ready for anything (provided it's paved).  The trick in the setup 
> will be to see how "quick change" I can make it.  There are a couple 
> details in the set up that I believe could make it a ~5 minute switch. 
>  We'll see how it shakes out.  I
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 11:26:36 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Thanks to unintentional prodding from Leah, I've pressed my new-to-me 
>> Romulus into service.  Some serindipitous objects in my parts inventory 
>> enabled a build concept that is functionally similar to the forthcoming 
>> RoadUNO.  It's got a single 18T freewheel, a Paul Melvin tensioner (from 
>> Joe B), a triple crank with 46/36/24 rings and a single DT shifter for 
>> the 
>> front derailleur.  This morning I "upgraded" the front derailleur to a 
>> Campy Mirage, which qualifies this bike for my "Every Bike should have 
>> one 
>> Campy Part" club:
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157719595208740/
>>
>> The other upgrade from this morning is I swapped out the front wheel 
>> to a quick release front hub, rather than the bolt-on Phil track hub.  I 
>> will likely rebuild that Phil front wheel with a dynamo hub.  Now the 
>> F+R 
>> hubs are both black.  Also, I "downgraded" to much skinnier tires.  This 
>> accomplishes two things: It allows wheel removal without deflation -AND- 
>> it 
>> generates ample clearance for fenders.  The three gears are 35/53/68 
>> inches 
>> with these tires.  

[RBW] wtb: 26.8 seatpost, 120-130mm quill stem

[Brent Knepper]

looks like I've a periwinkle build coming up in the near future, which I 
should be able to get rollin with my small but intentional parts bin :) in 
need of a seatpost and stem though!

26.8 seatpost needs:
-longer than 250mm
-15-20mm traditional setback is great, not looking for straight or waybakk
-weird/funky/vintage/esoteric always encouraged, I can get a $5 used kalloy 
locally :)

120-30mm stem needs:
-120-130 length only, already have some shorter stems if I don't really 
need a long-o 
-usual 22.2 quill
-90º or 7-shape, not lookin for a riser stem
-150-250mm quill length is fine, don't need to get the bars high or slammed
-25.4 clamp or faceplate is good, or 26.0 but only with a faceplate is also 
good (prolly using rons ortho bars for anyone curious)
-W.F.V.E. also welcomed here

thanks for your consideration!

-Brent in chicago

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

[john Bokman]

Thanks for the shots of your bikes Ted. The Waterford is gorgeous, but I must 
say, one simply cannot top the Copper Metallic finish! Absolutely stunning.

John

> On May 16, 2024, at 7:44 AM, Ted Durant  wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 12:27:43 PM UTC-5 John Bokman wrote:
> Ted, I am sure you've posted it before, but I'd love to see a picture of your 
> Waterford. The ST-22 was one bike I always wanted to acquire, even though I 
> now have a Sam.
> 
> Recent photos of my ST-22 are in this post. (OM-D/Lumix 20/f1.7)
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/esIOMdJNPv4/m/5cxCfI6JAAAJ
> 
> Coupler'ed Bleriot in Waterford Copper Metallic with cream head tube and fork:
> 
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

[Brian Watts]

Yay, 54 Periwinkle right at 12:01🤪

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 12:06:38 PM UTC-7 Michael wrote:

> 57 Green here
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 3:02:30 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>>
>> Done. 51cm Periwinkle for my 3rd Sam. If people think I'm being piggy 
>> I'll consider letting it go. 
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

[Brian Watts]

 Happily secured a 54 Peri-Sam at 12:01 yesterday🙌🏼. I’m thinking Quill 
rims to have tubeless as an option. Recs on dynamo hubs? I’ve had a Son hub 
w edelux light but would entertain a cheaper hub option but will stick w 
Edelux lights…it’s so good. 

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:52:32 AM UTC-7 Donzaemon wrote:

> Love that color! It’s in my size too!
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 1:42:19 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On May 15, 2024, at 3:15 PM, reeb  wrote:
>>
>> almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i 
>> be going for the 48 or 51 for casual city rides with maybe once a month 
>> camping treks (most likely upright bars)? 
>>
>>
>> My saddle height is 70cm (PBH 81ish). Here’s what it looks like on a 51:
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>
>> [image: Rivendell - Bike Owners-4.jpeg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Parts for Sale

[Doug H.]

One last bump for this post. If you need a 700c Velocity built front wheel 
let me know. It is a silver rim with a black Shimano 105 hub. 36 spokes. 
Very few miles on it. I replaced it with a Dynamo wheel. $140 shipped to 
the lower 48. Velocity Wheel 



Thanks,
Doug

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 6:21:18 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I apologize for not listing the wheel size. It is a 700c Velocity Dyad 
> front wheel with 36 spokes. Silver rim with a black Shimano 105 hub. It was 
> on a Roadini but has very few miles on it.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 3:36:19 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> The pedals are sold. If you need a nice front wheel I have it boxed up 
>> and ready to ship. Remaining items:
>>
>>
>>
>>1. Velocity-built Dyad front wheel 36 spokes. Shimano 105 hub. Spins 
>>true with very few miles. I replaced it with a dynamo wheel. Silver rim 
>> and 
>>black hub. $140 shipped
>>
>>
>>1. Shimano SPD SL clipless pedals with very little use $30 shipped
>>
>>
>>1. Garbaruk 40 tooth chainring cinch fit (RaceFace). Less than 200 
>>miles on it. Very little signs of use. 2.4 mm offset $40 shipped
>>
>>
>>
>> Parts for Sale 
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 9:54:44 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> The Brooks saddle is sold. Remaining items: 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>1. Velocity-built Dyad front wheel 36 spokes. Shimano 105 hub. Spins 
>>>true with very few miles. I replaced it with a dynamo wheel. Silver rim 
>>> and 
>>>black hub. $140 shipped
>>>
>>>
>>>1. Shimano SPD SL clipless pedals with very little use $35 shipped
>>>2. Garbaruk 40 tooth chainring cinch fit (RaceFace). Less than 200 
>>>miles on it. Very little signs of use. 2.4 mm offset $40 shipped
>>>3. MKS Sylvan Touring pedals like new $30 shipped
>>>
>>> Link to photos:  Parts for Sale 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 10:28:16 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 The VO Happy Stem is sold. All other parts available. Feel free to make 
 an offer.
 Doug

 On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:21:53 PM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:

> PM sent!
>
> Nick in Falls Church VA
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 11:48:40 AM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Thank you Doug. I'll let this beauty go to someone else the group. 
>> Good luck with your sale!
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 7:38:54 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>> I will attach the saddle photos to this reply.
>>> [image: IMG_0655.JPG][image: IMG_0653.JPG][image: IMG_0652.JPG]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 10:33:34 AM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Hey Doug,

 I may be interested in the B17 saddle, but the link to your pics 
 doesn't seem to work for me.

 Cheers, John

 On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 3:35:22 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> I have some parts that I've accumulated the past couple of years 
> that I need to sell to clear some space in my work are.
>
>1. Velocity-built Dyad front wheel 36 spokes. Shimano 105 hub. 
>Spins true with very few miles. I replaced it with a dynamo wheel. 
> Silver 
>rim and black hub. $140 shipped
>2. Velo Orange Happy Stem: 110 mm 31.8 clamp silver $35 shipped
>3. Shimano SPD SL clipless pedals with very little use $40 
>shipped
>4. Garbaruk 40 tooth chainring cinch fit (RaceFace). Less than 
>200 miles on it. Very little signs of use. 2.5 mm offset $45 
> shipped
>5. MKS Sylvan Touring pedals like new $40 shipped
>6. Brooks B17 narrow saddle with little use and treated $65 
>shipped
>
> Photos in this link Parts for Sale 
> 
>
> Doug
> Athens, Ga
>


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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

[Glenn Mackin]

Having just gotten my first Rivendell--a Platypus no less--this is very 
inspiring. You've put together a truly beautiful bike. 

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 9:24:30 AM UTC-4 Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> beautiful build. I love the video of you riding it on the trails. 
>
> I really need to find the time to build mine up... 
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:31:39 AM UTC-4 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> Ahhh! Beautiful build! I appreciate the details and photos you've shared 
>> of your informed and thoughtful build. What a Platypus!
>>
>> Wishing you thousands of safe and happy miles,
>>
>> Tom 
>> (leaving Miami)
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Wow...that's some build...love that chainring attachment for your 
>>> basket. Really creative! Did you do that yourself or is that something you 
>>> bought?  Anyway, nice bike and that color kind of grows on you
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 4:48:28 AM UTC-5 Dan wrote:
>>>
 I thoroughly enjoyed this write-up. I can tell you've put in a lot of 
 thought to this bike, and it's beautiful.
 Your approach to this build as a performance upright bicycle and your 
 subsequent revelations as to the comfort mirror my own on my new, purple 
 Appaloosa. I have the same bars too, but slightly wider tyres! All I need 
 is some bar tape and to mount my shifters upside down like yours for those 
 secondary hand positions to really be dialled.
 Hope you have many more adventures to come.

 PS: I was told the Quills couldn't handle 48s (I have them on my 
 singlespeed). Are you running yours tubeless?


 On Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 09:26:44 UTC+9:30 kiziria...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. 
> 
>  
> *
>
> Cockpit features a Nitto 135mm Faceplater Stem with Rons Ortho Bars, 
> Brooks leather ergon grips with Simworks purple bar ends, Rivendell S2 
> friction shifters, with harlequin style newbuams purple/yellow wrap with 
> clear shellac, and a stem-mounted spurcycle bell. S83 seatpost with 
> Brooks 
> B17 titanium. NOS Dura-Ace headset.
>
> [image: IMG_3282.JPG]
>
> Brakes feature Paul Canti Levers with Touring Canti’s, Moon units, and 
> Hunter cycles Nugz for extra cable adjustment. Rene herse and nitto cable 
> hangars. Yokozuna reaction compressionless housing. All capped off with 
> Forager cycles cable cherries. Kool stop brake pads with the grey e-bike 
> pad compound. This was my final hurrah to test the ultimate canti-lever 
> brake setup and deem its worthiness as a brake. It has not passed by 
> test. 
> Riv recommends v-brakes for several valid reasons.
>
> Custom wheelset featuring White Industries MI5 hubs laced to Velocity 
> Quill rims with Sapim spokes and brass nipples, 32h front, 36h rear, all 
> polished. Rene Herse Tires, 48mm Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge. I will 
> likely keep an endurance casing Oracle ridge as a final tire choice, 
> setup 
> tubeless with Ultradynamico brass tubeless valves. I like riding fast, 
> especially on dirt. 
>
> Drivetrain features an ultra rare 110/73bcd Middleburn lightweight 
> road triple with 42/28t gearing and Rivendell chain guard and brass 
> self-extractors. Aluminum Sugino 28t chainring and aluminum chainring 
> hardware for weight reduction. NOS Dura-Ace 7700 sealed cartridge Bottom 
> bracket. Pedals are MKS Pretzel with shorter 4-5mm length brass set 
> screws 
> to replace the 6mm long aggressive steel pins. Ultegra PD-ES600 SPD 
> pedals 
> for longer rides when I want to be clipped in. Deore XT 9-speed 11-34 
> cassette, with NOS Dura Ace 7700 mid-cage rear derailleur (wolftooth 
> roadlink to clear the 34t), Dura Ace 7800 double front derailleur. KMC 
> 10-speed X10SL with the gold treatment, because, gold! This all shifts 
> *wonderfully.*
>
> Accessories include Nitto F32 front rack with Tanaka stainless steel 
> basket held by Voile mini straps, Nitto 32r rear rack with cygolite rear 
> light mount. Front rack features upcycled 28t chainring for my cygolite 
> go-pro mount (blue lug style) and M6 brass set screws to fill the unused 
> braze-ons. Blue Lug yellow X-Strap bungee cords front and rear, with the 
> x2 
> rainbow Rivendell straps laced through the basket to handle any odd 
> things 
> to carry on the fly. Beautiful Nitto R bottle cage on top, with ultra 
> rare 
> matching Nitto BG-L 1-liter bottle cage on the bottom. Greenfield 
> kickstand 
> wrapped with newbaums purple. Purple Blue Lug Koma lights front and rear 
> at 
> the drop-outs for when I forget to bring my nicer lights. Newbaums 

[RBW] ISO 55cm Romulus

[Carlos Quinteros Jr]

Had one get away from me and I can't shake it off. If anyone has one and 
wanting to part with it message me please.

Carlos
Los Angeles

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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

[Neale S.]

See you this weekend Armand! Will be on my Atlantis and at least attempting 
the triple scoop.

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 9:41:18 AM UTC-7 glennma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Having just gotten my first Rivendell--a Platypus no less--this is very 
> inspiring. You've put together a truly beautiful bike. 
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 9:24:30 AM UTC-4 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
>> beautiful build. I love the video of you riding it on the trails. 
>>
>> I really need to find the time to build mine up... 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:31:39 AM UTC-4 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>>> Ahhh! Beautiful build! I appreciate the details and photos you've shared 
>>> of your informed and thoughtful build. What a Platypus!
>>>
>>> Wishing you thousands of safe and happy miles,
>>>
>>> Tom 
>>> (leaving Miami)
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Wow...that's some build...love that chainring attachment for your 
 basket. Really creative! Did you do that yourself or is that something you 
 bought?  Anyway, nice bike and that color kind of grows on you

 On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 4:48:28 AM UTC-5 Dan wrote:

> I thoroughly enjoyed this write-up. I can tell you've put in a lot of 
> thought to this bike, and it's beautiful.
> Your approach to this build as a performance upright bicycle and your 
> subsequent revelations as to the comfort mirror my own on my new, purple 
> Appaloosa. I have the same bars too, but slightly wider tyres! All I need 
> is some bar tape and to mount my shifters upside down like yours for 
> those 
> secondary hand positions to really be dialled.
> Hope you have many more adventures to come.
>
> PS: I was told the Quills couldn't handle 48s (I have them on my 
> singlespeed). Are you running yours tubeless?
>
>
> On Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 09:26:44 UTC+9:30 kiziria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. 
>> 
>>  
>> *
>>
>> Cockpit features a Nitto 135mm Faceplater Stem with Rons Ortho Bars, 
>> Brooks leather ergon grips with Simworks purple bar ends, Rivendell S2 
>> friction shifters, with harlequin style newbuams purple/yellow wrap with 
>> clear shellac, and a stem-mounted spurcycle bell. S83 seatpost with 
>> Brooks 
>> B17 titanium. NOS Dura-Ace headset.
>>
>> [image: IMG_3282.JPG]
>>
>> Brakes feature Paul Canti Levers with Touring Canti’s, Moon units, 
>> and Hunter cycles Nugz for extra cable adjustment. Rene herse and nitto 
>> cable hangars. Yokozuna reaction compressionless housing. All capped off 
>> with Forager cycles cable cherries. Kool stop brake pads with the grey 
>> e-bike pad compound. This was my final hurrah to test the ultimate 
>> canti-lever brake setup and deem its worthiness as a brake. It has not 
>> passed by test. Riv recommends v-brakes for several valid reasons.
>>
>> Custom wheelset featuring White Industries MI5 hubs laced to Velocity 
>> Quill rims with Sapim spokes and brass nipples, 32h front, 36h rear, all 
>> polished. Rene Herse Tires, 48mm Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge. I will 
>> likely keep an endurance casing Oracle ridge as a final tire choice, 
>> setup 
>> tubeless with Ultradynamico brass tubeless valves. I like riding fast, 
>> especially on dirt. 
>>
>> Drivetrain features an ultra rare 110/73bcd Middleburn lightweight 
>> road triple with 42/28t gearing and Rivendell chain guard and brass 
>> self-extractors. Aluminum Sugino 28t chainring and aluminum chainring 
>> hardware for weight reduction. NOS Dura-Ace 7700 sealed cartridge Bottom 
>> bracket. Pedals are MKS Pretzel with shorter 4-5mm length brass set 
>> screws 
>> to replace the 6mm long aggressive steel pins. Ultegra PD-ES600 SPD 
>> pedals 
>> for longer rides when I want to be clipped in. Deore XT 9-speed 11-34 
>> cassette, with NOS Dura Ace 7700 mid-cage rear derailleur (wolftooth 
>> roadlink to clear the 34t), Dura Ace 7800 double front derailleur. KMC 
>> 10-speed X10SL with the gold treatment, because, gold! This all shifts 
>> *wonderfully.*
>>
>> Accessories include Nitto F32 front rack with Tanaka stainless steel 
>> basket held by Voile mini straps, Nitto 32r rear rack with cygolite rear 
>> light mount. Front rack features upcycled 28t chainring for my cygolite 
>> go-pro mount (blue lug style) and M6 brass set screws to fill the unused 
>> braze-ons. Blue Lug yellow X-Strap bungee cords front and rear, with the 
>> x2 
>> rainbow Rivendell straps laced through the basket to handle any odd 
>> things 
>> to carry on the fly. Beautiful Nitto R bottle cage on top, with ul

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos

[Guy LeVan]

I absolutely adore my 2015 size 57 in Tiburon Blue.  If you want to see the 
Grant design influence, check out bikeinsights dot com comparison of this 
model to a Bleriot in size 59.  This 57cm was a new addition to the San 
Marcos lineup, and is as close to a perfect geometry for my morph than most 
bikes I’ve ridden. This is a bike that remains in my quiver.



On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 8:53:23 AM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the link to that documentation. I believe mine is a 54cm 2014 
> model. It looks like I got the newer blue color with the older fork. It's a 
> bridge model, I guess!
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:07 AM Valerie Yates  wrote:
>
>> Following up from a different thread re offshoot discussion of the San 
>> Marcos, the color changed between the 2013 Pearl Blue and 2015 Tiburon Blue 
>> versions, when they also expanded the range using 650b wheels to include 
>> the 54 and new 57 size.. Maybe the straight fork was retained on the 
>>  larger 650b sizes? The 59 and 63 had a double top tube and take 700c 
>> wheels. Mine is a 51 Tiburon Blue with 650b wheels. 
>>  
>> 2013: 
>> https://www.somafab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/san-marcos-flyer2.pdf
>>
>> 2015: https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/san-marcos-frame-set
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:11:47 PM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I bought mine from a friend of a friend and I've done a bit of poking 
>>> around on the history of the San Marcos but I still don't fully understand 
>>> the evolution of the fork and color. 
>>>
>>> I used the Velo Orange band clamps for the third water bottle cage. It's 
>>> been rock solid and handy having the option for one more bottle. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:04 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:
>>>
 Interesting! I thought the color determined which fork it had. I also 
 thought you were re-posting another pic of Gary's bike. Now, I understand 
 you were replying to his pic with one of your own. Did you use band clamps 
 to attach the third bottle holder?





 On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:37:37 PM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:

> Agreed. It's a great bike. Just a joy to ride. I find mine to be very 
> steady and stable but there's nothing plodding about it. Here's mine in 
> what I believe is the same color as yours, but without the more elegant 
> fork.
>
> [image: PXL_20240421_165935710.jpg]
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 6:42 PM Valerie Yates  
> wrote:
>
>> Gary -- I only saw the one, semi-sideways picture, which looks like 
>> it is in the other blue color, which I thought came with the straighter 
>> fork. But the picture that Eric re-posted looks like the same color as 
>> mine 
>> yet with a straighter fork. Do you have one in each color? Do both have 
>> the 
>> straighter fork curve? Mine does not have a 3rd set of bottle bosses. 
>> Did 
>> you rig yours as an add-on?
>>
>> Eric -- Here is mine. Such a great bike.  Light, nimble, and fluid 
>> yet handles gravel, etc. without issue. I have no idea why this was not 
>> a 
>> massive success. My sister-in-law has one too and so she keeps a saddle 
>> in 
>> my garage so she can borrow mine when she visits. Would love to see how 
>> it 
>> compares in geometry to the Roadini. 
>> [image: PXL_20240514_231824905.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:26:48 AM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking good, Gary!
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:37 PM LBleriot  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: IMG_0374.jpeg]

 On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:45:46 PM UTC-4 eric.j...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> San Marcos, you say? Let's see a photo of that one, if you don't 
> mind. You don't see too many in the wild!
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 5:50 PM Valerie Yates  
> wrote:
>
>> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky 
>> smooth. Entirely comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San 
>> Marcos. Which is why I was able to let it go. I am so glad it is 
>> living its 
>> best life. 
>>
>> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you 
>> love it and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one 
>> doesn't 
>> turn up, order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your 
>> lugged one 
>> is pending, then it depends on price and timing. 😁 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 
>> in...@brentknepper.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group 
>>> rides on a road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun 
>>> journey! 
>>> I was lucky to buy Valerie's old

[RBW] Re: FS: Albacore handlebars, Paul thumbie mount, VO Grand Cru levers, Profile and VO quill stems, tires

[Miles Payton]

Update on items. 
The following are still available, shipping not included:
*Profile stainless stem*, 135mm reach, 26mm clamp, 1" quill. No bolt cap, 
but I whittled a wine cork into a little plug and that worked great and you 
can do that too: $20
*Velo Orange faceplate quill stem, black, 31.8mm mount, 100mm (maybe 90?) 
length: *$70
*Schwalbe Thunder Burt tires*, 29x2.2", moderate use, one of them has side 
knobs snipped to fit between narrow rear stays: $40/pair
*Terravail Cannonball tire*: 700x35, light use, tanwall and tubeless. $30.
*Salsa Woodchipper 2 handlebars*, very well-used, black, 46cm width: $20

These things have been sold: 
*Lekker Leks Albacore 

 handlebars*, 
light patina: $100
*Paul thumbie mount (right)*: $30
*Velo Orange Grand Cru brake levers*, silver (one barrel adjuster is bent, 
but works fine and threads in almost all the way): $40

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 11:11:29 AM UTC-5 Miles Payton wrote:

> Y'all probably want some more details:
>
> Albacore bars are 22.2mm all the way across. 26mm shim included if you 
> would like, as well as some green Vans ODI grips.
> Paul Thumbie is silver, 22.2mm clamp, Shimano compatible.
> VO brake levers are 23.8mm clamp with a 22.2mm shim included.
> Woodchipper bars are 31.8mm clamp and 46cm width.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:53:17 AM UTC-5 Miles Payton wrote:
>
>> Moving soon and need to unload some little odds and ends.
>>
>> *Lekker Leks Albacore 
>> 
>>  
>> handlebars*, light patina: $100
>> *Paul thumbie mount (right)*: $30
>> *Velo Orange Grand Cru brake levers*, silver (one barrel adjuster is 
>> bent, but works fine and threads in almost all the way): $40
>> *Profile stainless stem*, 135mm reach, 26mm clamp, 1" quill. No bolt 
>> cap, but I whittled a wine cork into a little plug and that worked great 
>> and you can do that too: $20
>> *Velo Orange faceplate quill stem, black, 31.8mm mount, 100mm (maybe 90?) 
>> length: *$70
>> *Schwalbe Thunder Burt tires*, 29x2.2", moderate use, one of them has 
>> side knobs snipped to fit between narrow rear stays: $40/pair
>> *Terravail Cannonball tire*: 700x35, light use, tanwall and tubeless. 
>> $30 ea.
>> *Salsa Woodchipper 2 handlebars*, very well-used: $20
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks B68

[J S]

I am going to hold off for a bit.  Thanks

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 9:46:29 AM UTC-4 J S wrote:

> Condition and price? 
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 11:59 PM jeffbog...@hotmail.com <
> jeffbog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have one, PM sent
>>
>> On Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 09:38:10 UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have a fairly new B68 you are looking to sell?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
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[RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Jerry Lynn]

Seeking a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26" frameset please. Looking to hand over 
my 55cm/93 XO-1 to my wife - it's a bit small for me anyway - so would love 
to build a 26" Riv for myself (I currently have several 26" wheelsets).

Jerry Lynn
Imperial Beach CA

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Re: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Matthew Williams]

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> On May 16, 2024, at 2:54 PM, Jerry Lynn  wrote:
> 
> Seeking a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26" frameset please. Looking to hand over my 
> 55cm/93 XO-1 to my wife - it's a bit small for me anyway - so would love to 
> build a 26" Riv for myself (I currently have several 26" wheelsets).
> 
> Jerry Lynn
> Imperial Beach CA
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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

[Jimmy Melnarik]

It was nice to meet you on Saturday at Topanga Creek Outpost, Armand! Your 
Platy is even more gorgeous in person.

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 9:53:45 AM UTC-7 Neale S. wrote:

> See you this weekend Armand! Will be on my Atlantis and at least 
> attempting the triple scoop.
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 9:41:18 AM UTC-7 glennma...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Having just gotten my first Rivendell--a Platypus no less--this is very 
>> inspiring. You've put together a truly beautiful bike. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 9:24:30 AM UTC-4 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>>> beautiful build. I love the video of you riding it on the trails. 
>>>
>>> I really need to find the time to build mine up... 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:31:39 AM UTC-4 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>
 Ahhh! Beautiful build! I appreciate the details and photos you've 
 shared of your informed and thoughtful build. What a Platypus!

 Wishing you thousands of safe and happy miles,

 Tom 
 (leaving Miami)

 On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Wow...that's some build...love that chainring attachment for your 
> basket. Really creative! Did you do that yourself or is that something 
> you 
> bought?  Anyway, nice bike and that color kind of grows on you
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 4:48:28 AM UTC-5 Dan wrote:
>
>> I thoroughly enjoyed this write-up. I can tell you've put in a lot of 
>> thought to this bike, and it's beautiful.
>> Your approach to this build as a performance upright bicycle and your 
>> subsequent revelations as to the comfort mirror my own on my new, purple 
>> Appaloosa. I have the same bars too, but slightly wider tyres! All I 
>> need 
>> is some bar tape and to mount my shifters upside down like yours for 
>> those 
>> secondary hand positions to really be dialled.
>> Hope you have many more adventures to come.
>>
>> PS: I was told the Quills couldn't handle 48s (I have them on my 
>> singlespeed). Are you running yours tubeless?
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 09:26:44 UTC+9:30 kiziria...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> *
>>>
>>> Cockpit features a Nitto 135mm Faceplater Stem with Rons Ortho Bars, 
>>> Brooks leather ergon grips with Simworks purple bar ends, Rivendell S2 
>>> friction shifters, with harlequin style newbuams purple/yellow wrap 
>>> with 
>>> clear shellac, and a stem-mounted spurcycle bell. S83 seatpost with 
>>> Brooks 
>>> B17 titanium. NOS Dura-Ace headset.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_3282.JPG]
>>>
>>> Brakes feature Paul Canti Levers with Touring Canti’s, Moon units, 
>>> and Hunter cycles Nugz for extra cable adjustment. Rene herse and nitto 
>>> cable hangars. Yokozuna reaction compressionless housing. All capped 
>>> off 
>>> with Forager cycles cable cherries. Kool stop brake pads with the grey 
>>> e-bike pad compound. This was my final hurrah to test the ultimate 
>>> canti-lever brake setup and deem its worthiness as a brake. It has not 
>>> passed by test. Riv recommends v-brakes for several valid reasons.
>>>
>>> Custom wheelset featuring White Industries MI5 hubs laced to 
>>> Velocity Quill rims with Sapim spokes and brass nipples, 32h front, 36h 
>>> rear, all polished. Rene Herse Tires, 48mm Hatcher Pass and Oracle 
>>> Ridge. I 
>>> will likely keep an endurance casing Oracle ridge as a final tire 
>>> choice, 
>>> setup tubeless with Ultradynamico brass tubeless valves. I like riding 
>>> fast, especially on dirt. 
>>>
>>> Drivetrain features an ultra rare 110/73bcd Middleburn lightweight 
>>> road triple with 42/28t gearing and Rivendell chain guard and brass 
>>> self-extractors. Aluminum Sugino 28t chainring and aluminum chainring 
>>> hardware for weight reduction. NOS Dura-Ace 7700 sealed cartridge 
>>> Bottom 
>>> bracket. Pedals are MKS Pretzel with shorter 4-5mm length brass set 
>>> screws 
>>> to replace the 6mm long aggressive steel pins. Ultegra PD-ES600 SPD 
>>> pedals 
>>> for longer rides when I want to be clipped in. Deore XT 9-speed 11-34 
>>> cassette, with NOS Dura Ace 7700 mid-cage rear derailleur (wolftooth 
>>> roadlink to clear the 34t), Dura Ace 7800 double front derailleur. KMC 
>>> 10-speed X10SL with the gold treatment, because, gold! This all shifts 
>>> *wonderfully.*
>>>
>>> Accessories include Nitto F32 front rack with Tanaka stainless steel 
>>> basket held by Voile mini straps, Nitto 32r rear rack with cygolite 
>>> rear 
>>> light mount. Front rack features upcycled 28t chainring for my cygolite 

Re: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[NYCbikeguy]

Hey Jerry,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Toyo Atlantis 26inchers were 
limited to 56cm frames and under. 58 and above were 700c.

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:55:32 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Atlantis 55 for sale 
> 
> groups.google.com 
> 
> [image: groups_32dp.png] 
>  
> 
>
>
> On May 16, 2024, at 2:54 PM, Jerry Lynn  wrote:
>
> Seeking a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26" frameset please. Looking to hand over 
> my 55cm/93 XO-1 to my wife - it's a bit small for me anyway - so would love 
> to build a 26" Riv for myself (I currently have several 26" wheelsets).
>
> Jerry Lynn
> Imperial Beach CA
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[RBW] Love to Ride: Commuter Challenge

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

My love for my new home state is well-documented. After 18 years of desert 
living, we moved to Michigan, where none of us Petersons had set foot prior 
to the job interview. 

I have finally found a biking community, right here in a state that has 
winter. 

Anyway, I got asked to be on a committee that would help launch a new 
initiative to get more people on bikes. There is a lot of lovely new 
infrastructure in downtown, and we are hoping to get people to use it to 
get to work/events/dining/shopping. We are using the app Love to Ride, 
which will allow people in the city and surrounding areas to sign up, join 
the challenge and compete against other people for a 2 week challenge in 
May. The city is eager to have the data that the heat maps will generate, 
showing where people are riding and where they are not. Hopefully this 
influences further infrastructure in the near future.

Today there was a local news article, and one of the men I’m serving with 
is pictured with his RIVENDELL. Paul’s brother John Sotherland built the 
Rivendell frames at Waterford back in…whatever day that was. I almost never 
saw other Rivs in the other places I’ve lived, but Michigan has plenty of 
them.

Here’s the 
article: 
https://www.secondwavemedia.com/southwest-michigan/features/Kalamazoo-Commuter-Challenge-encourage-new-cyclists.051624.aspx

Leah

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Re: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Frank Brose]

No need for correction. 56 were 26 inch , the 58 were 700c. I've had both 
and preferred the 56 so I bought another one after I sold the 58. Just sayin
Frank 

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:48:31 PM UTC-5 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> Hey Jerry,
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Toyo Atlantis 26inchers were 
> limited to 56cm frames and under. 58 and above were 700c.
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:55:32 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Atlantis 55 for sale 
>> 
>> groups.google.com 
>> 
>> [image: groups_32dp.png] 
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>> On May 16, 2024, at 2:54 PM, Jerry Lynn  wrote:
>>
>> Seeking a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26" frameset please. Looking to hand over 
>> my 55cm/93 XO-1 to my wife - it's a bit small for me anyway - so would love 
>> to build a 26" Riv for myself (I currently have several 26" wheelsets).
>>
>> Jerry Lynn
>> Imperial Beach CA
>>
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ThRe: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Ian A]

There were also a Waterford run of Atlantis. I recall seeing a 56cm MUSA 
Atlantis for sale on this list. The MIT (made in Taiwan) models have the 
long chainstays and fit differently.

The original 56cm 26" Atlantis is very cool, but hard to find. It might be 
worth considering newer iterations of the Atlantis too.

IanA

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:38:28 PM UTC-6 Frank Brose wrote:

> No need for correction. 56 were 26 inch , the 58 were 700c. I've had both 
> and preferred the 56 so I bought another one after I sold the 58. Just sayin
> Frank 
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:48:31 PM UTC-5 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>
>> Hey Jerry,
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Toyo Atlantis 26inchers were 
>> limited to 56cm frames and under. 58 and above were 700c.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:55:32 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Atlantis 55 for sale 
>>> 
>>> groups.google.com 
>>> 
>>> [image: groups_32dp.png] 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 16, 2024, at 2:54 PM, Jerry Lynn  wrote:
>>>
>>> Seeking a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26" frameset please. Looking to hand 
>>> over my 55cm/93 XO-1 to my wife - it's a bit small for me anyway - so would 
>>> love to build a 26" Riv for myself (I currently have several 26" wheelsets).
>>>
>>> Jerry Lynn
>>> Imperial Beach CA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: spring cleaning!

[atreya...@gmail.com]

Do you still have noodles by any chance ?
On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 7:44:39 PM UTC-7 Calvin Yolo wrote:

> *52cm Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) - 26.0 — $90*
>
>- Mounted for a week or so, then taken off. Basically new but there's 
>residue from the standard newbaum/shellac combo here at Riv.
>
> *Panaracer GravelKing Slick, BROWNwall, folding 700x38 — $80*
>
>- Used for one 25 mile ride.
>
> *Velocity A23 rims, Silver, 700/NMSW — $120*
>
>- Purchased in 2012 and sat around ever since, was told it was built 
>and then unbuilt. Looks basically new to my eyes but will ask Rich to 
>double-check if there's any interest. 
>
> *Thomson Elite Setback, Black/27.2/330mm — $45*
>
>- Looked like a well-used post before I got it. Used for 250-ish miles 
>with no issues.
>
> *Paul Shimano Thumbies, Silver, 22.2 — $95*
> *Shimano Dura Ace 11spd bar end shifters — $95*
> *SOLD - Brooks C17 Carved — $80*
> On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 5:19:13 PM UTC-7 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>
>> Shipping not included, but free if picked up in Oakland or at Rivendell. 
>> Venmo preferred.
>>
>> Most items are like-new, unless otherwise noted. Will try to get photos 
>> up on Wednesday.
>>
>> *52cm Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) - 26.0 — $90*
>>
>>- Mounted for a week or so, then taken off. Basically new but there's 
>>residue from the standard newbaum/shellac combo here at Riv.
>>
>> *Panaracer GravelKing Slick, BROWNwall, folding 700x38 — $80*
>>
>>- Used for one 25 mile ride.
>>
>> *Velocity A23 rims, Silver, 700/NMSW — $120*
>>
>>- Purchased in 2012 and sat around ever since, was told it was built 
>>and then unbuilt. Looks basically new to my eyes but will ask Rich to 
>>double-check if there's any interest. 
>>
>> *Thomson Elite Setback, Black/27.2/330mm — $45*
>>
>>- Looked like a well-used post before I got it. Used for 250-ish 
>>miles with no issues.
>>
>> *Paul Shimano Thumbies, Silver, 22.2 — $95*
>> *Shimano Dura Ace 11spd bar end shifters — $95*
>> *Brooks C17 Carved — $80*
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: wtb: 26.8 seatpost, 120-130mm quill stem

[Tim Bantham]

A new frame and fork from Riv usually includes a Kaloi seatpost. You might 
want to verify before buying unless your just looking for something 
fancier. 

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 11:20:18 AM UTC-4 Brent Knepper wrote:

> looks like I've a periwinkle build coming up in the near future, which I 
> should be able to get rollin with my small but intentional parts bin :) in 
> need of a seatpost and stem though!
>
> 26.8 seatpost needs:
> -longer than 250mm
> -15-20mm traditional setback is great, not looking for straight or waybakk
> -weird/funky/vintage/esoteric always encouraged, I can get a $5 used 
> kalloy locally :)
>
> 120-30mm stem needs:
> -120-130 length only, already have some shorter stems if I don't really 
> need a long-o 
> -usual 22.2 quill
> -90º or 7-shape, not lookin for a riser stem
> -150-250mm quill length is fine, don't need to get the bars high or slammed
> -25.4 clamp or faceplate is good, or 26.0 but only with a faceplate is 
> also good (prolly using rons ortho bars for anyone curious)
> -W.F.V.E. also welcomed here
>
> thanks for your consideration!
>
> -Brent in chicago
>

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Re: ThRe: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Jerry Lynn]

Appreciate the insight regarding Toyo Atlantis frame to wheel sizing. At 
6'1" a 58 would actually be ideal for me - I was just wanting a 26" wheeled 
Riv for rides with the wife. Whelp - I'll keep searching for a 56/26" Toyo 
Atlantis.
In the mean time  - I do have a custom Ebisu/650B on order that I'm excited 
over. Just received my hand built Velocity 650B Quill wheelset and White 
Industries crankset/BB for it. I have other savory bits for it too. 
Whelp - I do so love building bicycles, I love everything about it - and to 
a fault.

On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 17:05:36 UTC-7 Ian A wrote:

> There were also a Waterford run of Atlantis. I recall seeing a 56cm MUSA 
> Atlantis for sale on this list. The MIT (made in Taiwan) models have the 
> long chainstays and fit differently.
>
> The original 56cm 26" Atlantis is very cool, but hard to find. It might be 
> worth considering newer iterations of the Atlantis too.
>
> IanA
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:38:28 PM UTC-6 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> No need for correction. 56 were 26 inch , the 58 were 700c. I've had both 
>> and preferred the 56 so I bought another one after I sold the 58. Just sayin
>> Frank 
>>
>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:48:31 PM UTC-5 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jerry,
>>>
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Toyo Atlantis 26inchers were 
>>> limited to 56cm frames and under. 58 and above were 700c.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:55:32 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 Atlantis 55 for sale 
 
 groups.google.com 
 
 [image: groups_32dp.png] 
 
  
 


 On May 16, 2024, at 2:54 PM, Jerry Lynn  wrote:

 Seeking a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26" frameset please. Looking to hand 
 over my 55cm/93 XO-1 to my wife - it's a bit small for me anyway - so 
 would 
 love to build a 26" Riv for myself (I currently have several 26" 
 wheelsets).

 Jerry Lynn
 Imperial Beach CA

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[RBW] Re: wtb: 26.8 seatpost, 120-130mm quill stem

[Ted Durant]

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 7:18:19 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

A new frame and fork from Riv usually includes a Kaloi seatpost. You might 
want to verify before buying unless your just looking for something 
fancier. 


Yes, your Sam will come with a Kalloy seatpost. The ones in the last batch 
were 300mm.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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Re: [RBW] TPU inner tubes - Anyone using them?

[Ted Durant]

Final update from me. Rene Herse has been very good about it and is 
refunding me for the tubes that had the valve stem attachments fail.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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Re: ThRe: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Hoch in ut]

There is a guy on Facebook Riv Marketplace that says he has a Toyo built 
57-58”, 26” Atlantis. Guy named William John Spencer in a WTB: Toyo 
Atlantis thread. 

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:27:42 PM UTC-6 jerry...@gmail.com wrote:

> Appreciate the insight regarding Toyo Atlantis frame to wheel sizing. At 
> 6'1" a 58 would actually be ideal for me - I was just wanting a 26" wheeled 
> Riv for rides with the wife. Whelp - I'll keep searching for a 56/26" Toyo 
> Atlantis.
> In the mean time  - I do have a custom Ebisu/650B on order that I'm 
> excited over. Just received my hand built Velocity 650B Quill wheelset and 
> White Industries crankset/BB for it. I have other savory bits for it too. 
> Whelp - I do so love building bicycles, I love everything about it - and 
> to a fault.
>
> On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 17:05:36 UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>
>> There were also a Waterford run of Atlantis. I recall seeing a 56cm MUSA 
>> Atlantis for sale on this list. The MIT (made in Taiwan) models have the 
>> long chainstays and fit differently.
>>
>> The original 56cm 26" Atlantis is very cool, but hard to find. It might 
>> be worth considering newer iterations of the Atlantis too.
>>
>> IanA
>>
>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:38:28 PM UTC-6 Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>>> No need for correction. 56 were 26 inch , the 58 were 700c. I've had 
>>> both and preferred the 56 so I bought another one after I sold the 58. Just 
>>> sayin
>>> Frank 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:48:31 PM UTC-5 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>>
 Hey Jerry,

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Toyo Atlantis 26inchers were 
 limited to 56cm frames and under. 58 and above were 700c.

 On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:55:32 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Atlantis 55 for sale 
> 
> groups.google.com 
> 
> [image: groups_32dp.png] 
> 
>  
> 
>
>
> On May 16, 2024, at 2:54 PM, Jerry Lynn  wrote:
>
> Seeking a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26" frameset please. Looking to hand 
> over my 55cm/93 XO-1 to my wife - it's a bit small for me anyway - so 
> would 
> love to build a 26" Riv for myself (I currently have several 26" 
> wheelsets).
>
> Jerry Lynn
> Imperial Beach CA
>
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Re: ThRe: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Kim H.]

Here is an Atlantis to add to the cookie jar in my neighborhood:

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/vashon-rivendell-atlantis-new/7733364545.html

No interest. I am happy with the Clem I that I own. 

Kim Hetzel.
On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 7:29:32 PM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:

> There is a guy on Facebook Riv Marketplace that says he has a Toyo built 
> 57-58”, 26” Atlantis. Guy named William John Spencer in a WTB: Toyo 
> Atlantis thread. 
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:27:42 PM UTC-6 jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Appreciate the insight regarding Toyo Atlantis frame to wheel sizing. At 
>> 6'1" a 58 would actually be ideal for me - I was just wanting a 26" wheeled 
>> Riv for rides with the wife. Whelp - I'll keep searching for a 56/26" Toyo 
>> Atlantis.
>> In the mean time  - I do have a custom Ebisu/650B on order that I'm 
>> excited over. Just received my hand built Velocity 650B Quill wheelset and 
>> White Industries crankset/BB for it. I have other savory bits for it too. 
>> Whelp - I do so love building bicycles, I love everything about it - and 
>> to a fault.
>>
>> On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 17:05:36 UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> There were also a Waterford run of Atlantis. I recall seeing a 56cm MUSA 
>>> Atlantis for sale on this list. The MIT (made in Taiwan) models have the 
>>> long chainstays and fit differently.
>>>
>>> The original 56cm 26" Atlantis is very cool, but hard to find. It might 
>>> be worth considering newer iterations of the Atlantis too.
>>>
>>> IanA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:38:28 PM UTC-6 Frank Brose wrote:
>>>
 No need for correction. 56 were 26 inch , the 58 were 700c. I've had 
 both and preferred the 56 so I bought another one after I sold the 58. 
 Just 
 sayin
 Frank 

 On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:48:31 PM UTC-5 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> Hey Jerry,
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Toyo Atlantis 26inchers 
> were limited to 56cm frames and under. 58 and above were 700c.
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:55:32 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Atlantis 55 for sale 
>> 
>> groups.google.com 
>> 
>> [image: groups_32dp.png] 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>> On May 16, 2024, at 2:54 PM, Jerry Lynn  wrote:
>>
>> Seeking a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26" frameset please. Looking to hand 
>> over my 55cm/93 XO-1 to my wife - it's a bit small for me anyway - so 
>> would 
>> love to build a 26" Riv for myself (I currently have several 26" 
>> wheelsets).
>>
>> Jerry Lynn
>> Imperial Beach CA
>>
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Re: ThRe: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Matthew Williams]

> On May 16, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:
> 
> There is a guy on Facebook Riv Marketplace that says he has a Toyo built 
> 57-58”, 26” Atlantis. Guy named William John Spencer in a WTB: Toyo Atlantis 
> thread. 

Link:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/

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Re: ThRe: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Jerry Lynn]

Appreciate the tip - I actually reached to him a week ago. Unfortunately 
for me, his is a 700C frameset.

On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 19:29:32 UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:

> There is a guy on Facebook Riv Marketplace that says he has a Toyo built 
> 57-58”, 26” Atlantis. Guy named William John Spencer in a WTB: Toyo 
> Atlantis thread. 
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:27:42 PM UTC-6 jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Appreciate the insight regarding Toyo Atlantis frame to wheel sizing. At 
>> 6'1" a 58 would actually be ideal for me - I was just wanting a 26" wheeled 
>> Riv for rides with the wife. Whelp - I'll keep searching for a 56/26" Toyo 
>> Atlantis.
>> In the mean time  - I do have a custom Ebisu/650B on order that I'm 
>> excited over. Just received my hand built Velocity 650B Quill wheelset and 
>> White Industries crankset/BB for it. I have other savory bits for it too. 
>> Whelp - I do so love building bicycles, I love everything about it - and 
>> to a fault.
>>
>> On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 17:05:36 UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> There were also a Waterford run of Atlantis. I recall seeing a 56cm MUSA 
>>> Atlantis for sale on this list. The MIT (made in Taiwan) models have the 
>>> long chainstays and fit differently.
>>>
>>> The original 56cm 26" Atlantis is very cool, but hard to find. It might 
>>> be worth considering newer iterations of the Atlantis too.
>>>
>>> IanA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:38:28 PM UTC-6 Frank Brose wrote:
>>>
 No need for correction. 56 were 26 inch , the 58 were 700c. I've had 
 both and preferred the 56 so I bought another one after I sold the 58. 
 Just 
 sayin
 Frank 

 On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:48:31 PM UTC-5 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> Hey Jerry,
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Toyo Atlantis 26inchers 
> were limited to 56cm frames and under. 58 and above were 700c.
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:55:32 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Atlantis 55 for sale 
>> 
>> groups.google.com 
>> 
>> [image: groups_32dp.png] 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>> On May 16, 2024, at 2:54 PM, Jerry Lynn  wrote:
>>
>> Seeking a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26" frameset please. Looking to hand 
>> over my 55cm/93 XO-1 to my wife - it's a bit small for me anyway - so 
>> would 
>> love to build a 26" Riv for myself (I currently have several 26" 
>> wheelsets).
>>
>> Jerry Lynn
>> Imperial Beach CA
>>
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>>
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Re: ThRe: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

[Jerry Lynn]

Yup - saw this too - but at 6'1" a 56cm is as small as I can go. That said, 
I thank you just the same!

On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 20:13:50 UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> On May 16, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>
> There is a guy on Facebook Riv Marketplace that says he has a Toyo built 
> 57-58”, 26” Atlantis. Guy named William John Spencer in a WTB: Toyo 
> Atlantis thread. 
>
>
> Link:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Droptube Rivendell Custom 54cm

[Joe Bernard]

Ok let's try offers on complete or frameset or some combination thereof. 

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 10:54:47 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Smarter, yes. Will it work? Doubtful. I think I need more cash to let it 
> go than folks are willing to spend. This whole project looks to be winding 
> down soon and I'm ok with it 🤷
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 10:41:21 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a smarter idea...then buyer can configure the frame as 
>> desired and parting out can maybe recover more of your costs...good luck 
>> with the sale!
>>
>> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 11:08:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Frameset with headset, BB and Nitto post, $3k plus shipping. 
>>>
>>> I can use the fancy wheels on my Clem and part out some stuff, plus a 
>>> frame is much easier to pack than a complete bike with Boscos. Would rather 
>>> not! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>> Clearlake CA 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 5:05:13 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Just so's y'all know, I rode the motorbikes for decades. I got a 
 refresher course and decided to give it another whirl. It will be a used 
 bike, maybe a Harley Sportster, this is HOG country up here. The point of 
 the thread is to sell a bicycle! 😁

 On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-7 Mark R. wrote:

>
> Motorcycles are addicting. I’ve been riding street since 1989 to get 
> around town, it was safer to commute at night than
> my bicycle.  My opinion is to buy a used smaller bike, see how it 
> feels, before you sink money into it
>
> I got rid of one bike because it was too slow and loud. The next 
> because it was too tall and I had trouble reaching the
> ground at lights. Then I found the Perfect fit for me and put 40k 
> miles on that Moto.
> As it stands , I hardly ever use my car (about 2k miles since 2019) . 
> I put 22k one bike and 2k on another till last year.
> This year I’m on track to 10k, this bike is new and fresh with all the 
> latest safety features. 
> Mark R
> SDCA 
>
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