[RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Nicholas A]

I think if somebody has a problem about you being cautious, they are not 
somebody you should do business with.

On Friday 3 May 2024 at 05:29:57 UTC+1 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Brenton-
> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was not 
> so.
>
> The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
> Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can help 
> you.
>
> My regards,
> Kim Hetzel.
> I got scammed too last year over these - 
> https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
>   
> last year.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many 
>> pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that I 
>> feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be 
>> bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. 
>>
>> I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via *jeff00m...@gmail.com* 
>> who said they were friends with a seller named "Leonard" and I gave my 
>> phone number to that emailer.
>>
>> The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 
>> <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they told 
>> me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have lots of 
>> friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, they 
>> accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.
>>
>> Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this says 
>> *scam*. I would love to be wrong.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in my 
>>> ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing:
>>>
>>> " @Brenton -
>>> If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue 
>>> Homer under the owner's name of 
>>> *Payton Beargrr* 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
>>> Very near mint condition A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm with 650b wheels. 
>>> Unsure of year but it's likely 4 or less years old. Taiwanese made frame. I 
>>> am not the original owner but this appears to be a Rivendell build. 
>>> -Nitto handlebars, stem, and seat post
>>> -Brooks saddle
>>> -Paul racer brakes, Paul canti levers
>>> -Paul thumbie mounts with Microshift shifters
>>> -Riv Silver double crankset
>>> -IRD front derailleur
>>> -Shimano Alivio rear derailleur
>>> -MKS Grip Monarch pedals
>>> -mismatched Shimano hubs, no name rims
>>> -Soma Cazadero 650 x 42b
>>> -Sackville bag
>>> The only imperfections are the two small paint chips on the top tube, 
>>> noted in the pictures. 
>>> $2500 + shipping. 
>>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel."
>>>
>>> Other people seem to also be looking at this bike. Robert Carlton said 
>>> owner confirmed it's a 58. The facebook post has some comments and the 
>>> owner says the bike is in *Fargo ND.*
>>>
>>> I've been texting with someone (who says the bike is in *LA*) and he 
>>> wants a $400 deposit to sell it to me for $1300 (complete bike, insane 
>>> price). The whole thing is odd. They can't send me a pic with measure tape 
>>> to prove a claim of *69cm standover*. It sure doesn't look like a 54.5 
>>> based on every other Riv stack I've seen and studied. Our messages have 
>>> been super cryptic. 
>>>
>>> I just *HOPE* anyone else looking for a blue homer in 58 or 54.5 
>>> doesn't fall for a scam. Posting here amongst people I trust, admire, and 
>>> have become friends with. My Roadini frame and dozens of parts on both my 
>>> Rivs have been purchased from this group. I don't want to stir up any drama 
>>> if this is in fact a legit sale, but the listing is from Jan 2023, 16 
>>> months old, this bike at any price under $2000 should be long gone on it's 
>>> way to a new owner. PS. I'm not sending a deposit.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Roberta]

My company is super cautious about Internet security, having us take lots 
of security courses.  One of the biggest email and internet securities red 
flags is money or action in an urgent timeframe. This sounds scamming to me.

By the way, I have a 54.5 homer and the picture is certainly not of a 54.5 
bike. 
On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-4 Nicholas A wrote:

> I think if somebody has a problem about you being cautious, they are not 
> somebody you should do business with.
>
> On Friday 3 May 2024 at 05:29:57 UTC+1 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Brenton-
>> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was not 
>> so.
>>
>> The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
>> Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can help 
>> you.
>>
>> My regards,
>> Kim Hetzel.
>> I got scammed too last year over these - 
>> https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
>>   
>> last year.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many 
>>> pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that I 
>>> feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be 
>>> bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. 
>>>
>>> I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via *jeff00m...@gmail.com* 
>>> who said they were friends with a seller named "Leonard" and I gave my 
>>> phone number to that emailer.
>>>
>>> The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 
>>> <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they told 
>>> me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have lots of 
>>> friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, they 
>>> accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.
>>>
>>> Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this 
>>> says *scam*. I would love to be wrong.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>>>
 Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in my 
 ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing:

 " @Brenton -
 If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue 
 Homer under the owner's name of 
 *Payton Beargrr* 
 
  

 Very near mint condition A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm with 650b wheels. 
 Unsure of year but it's likely 4 or less years old. Taiwanese made frame. 
 I 
 am not the original owner but this appears to be a Rivendell build. 
 -Nitto handlebars, stem, and seat post
 -Brooks saddle
 -Paul racer brakes, Paul canti levers
 -Paul thumbie mounts with Microshift shifters
 -Riv Silver double crankset
 -IRD front derailleur
 -Shimano Alivio rear derailleur
 -MKS Grip Monarch pedals
 -mismatched Shimano hubs, no name rims
 -Soma Cazadero 650 x 42b
 -Sackville bag
 The only imperfections are the two small paint chips on the top tube, 
 noted in the pictures. 
 $2500 + shipping. 
 Let me know if you have any questions.

 Kim Hetzel."

 Other people seem to also be looking at this bike. Robert Carlton said 
 owner confirmed it's a 58. The facebook post has some comments and the 
 owner says the bike is in *Fargo ND.*

 I've been texting with someone (who says the bike is in *LA*) and he 
 wants a $400 deposit to sell it to me for $1300 (complete bike, insane 
 price). The whole thing is odd. They can't send me a pic with measure tape 
 to prove a claim of *69cm standover*. It sure doesn't look like a 54.5 
 based on every other Riv stack I've seen and studied. Our messages have 
 been super cryptic. 

 I just *HOPE* anyone else looking for a blue homer in 58 or 54.5 
 doesn't fall for a scam. Posting here amongst people I trust, admire, and 
 have become friends with. My Roadini frame and dozens of parts on both my 
 Rivs have been purchased from this group. I don't want to stir up any 
 drama 
 if this is in fact a legit sale, but the listing is from Jan 2023, 16 
 months old, this bike at any price under $2000 should be long gone on it's 
 way to a new owner. PS. I'm not sending a deposit.




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[RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Roberta]

Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
scammed?  

BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly 
from the seller. 

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

> @Brenton-
> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was not 
> so.
>
> The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
> Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can help 
> you.
>
> My regards,
> Kim Hetzel.
> I got scammed too last year over these - 
> https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
>   
> last year.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many 
>> pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that I 
>> feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be 
>> bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. 
>>
>> I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via *jeff00m...@gmail.com* 
>> who said they were friends with a seller named "Leonard" and I gave my 
>> phone number to that emailer.
>>
>> The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 
>> <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they told 
>> me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have lots of 
>> friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, they 
>> accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.
>>
>> Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this says 
>> *scam*. I would love to be wrong.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in my 
>>> ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing:
>>>
>>> " @Brenton -
>>> If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue 
>>> Homer under the owner's name of 
>>> *Payton Beargrr* 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
>>> Very near mint condition A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm with 650b wheels. 
>>> Unsure of year but it's likely 4 or less years old. Taiwanese made frame. I 
>>> am not the original owner but this appears to be a Rivendell build. 
>>> -Nitto handlebars, stem, and seat post
>>> -Brooks saddle
>>> -Paul racer brakes, Paul canti levers
>>> -Paul thumbie mounts with Microshift shifters
>>> -Riv Silver double crankset
>>> -IRD front derailleur
>>> -Shimano Alivio rear derailleur
>>> -MKS Grip Monarch pedals
>>> -mismatched Shimano hubs, no name rims
>>> -Soma Cazadero 650 x 42b
>>> -Sackville bag
>>> The only imperfections are the two small paint chips on the top tube, 
>>> noted in the pictures. 
>>> $2500 + shipping. 
>>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel."
>>>
>>> Other people seem to also be looking at this bike. Robert Carlton said 
>>> owner confirmed it's a 58. The facebook post has some comments and the 
>>> owner says the bike is in *Fargo ND.*
>>>
>>> I've been texting with someone (who says the bike is in *LA*) and he 
>>> wants a $400 deposit to sell it to me for $1300 (complete bike, insane 
>>> price). The whole thing is odd. They can't send me a pic with measure tape 
>>> to prove a claim of *69cm standover*. It sure doesn't look like a 54.5 
>>> based on every other Riv stack I've seen and studied. Our messages have 
>>> been super cryptic. 
>>>
>>> I just *HOPE* anyone else looking for a blue homer in 58 or 54.5 
>>> doesn't fall for a scam. Posting here amongst people I trust, admire, and 
>>> have become friends with. My Roadini frame and dozens of parts on both my 
>>> Rivs have been purchased from this group. I don't want to stir up any drama 
>>> if this is in fact a legit sale, but the listing is from Jan 2023, 16 
>>> months old, this bike at any price under $2000 should be long gone on it's 
>>> way to a new owner. PS. I'm not sending a deposit.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I 
wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
> scammed?  
>
> BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly 
> from the seller. 
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Brenton-
>> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was not 
>> so.
>>
>> The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
>> Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can help 
>> you.
>>
>> My regards,
>> Kim Hetzel.
>> I got scammed too last year over these - 
>> https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
>>   
>> last year.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many 
>>> pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that I 
>>> feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be 
>>> bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. 
>>>
>>> I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via *jeff00m...@gmail.com* 
>>> who said they were friends with a seller named "Leonard" and I gave my 
>>> phone number to that emailer.
>>>
>>> The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 
>>> <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they told 
>>> me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have lots of 
>>> friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, they 
>>> accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.
>>>
>>> Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this 
>>> says *scam*. I would love to be wrong.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>>>
 Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in my 
 ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing:

 " @Brenton -
 If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue 
 Homer under the owner's name of 
 *Payton Beargrr* 
 
  

 Very near mint condition A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm with 650b wheels. 
 Unsure of year but it's likely 4 or less years old. Taiwanese made frame. 
 I 
 am not the original owner but this appears to be a Rivendell build. 
 -Nitto handlebars, stem, and seat post
 -Brooks saddle
 -Paul racer brakes, Paul canti levers
 -Paul thumbie mounts with Microshift shifters
 -Riv Silver double crankset
 -IRD front derailleur
 -Shimano Alivio rear derailleur
 -MKS Grip Monarch pedals
 -mismatched Shimano hubs, no name rims
 -Soma Cazadero 650 x 42b
 -Sackville bag
 The only imperfections are the two small paint chips on the top tube, 
 noted in the pictures. 
 $2500 + shipping. 
 Let me know if you have any questions.

 Kim Hetzel."

 Other people seem to also be looking at this bike. Robert Carlton said 
 owner confirmed it's a 58. The facebook post has some comments and the 
 owner says the bike is in *Fargo ND.*

 I've been texting with someone (who says the bike is in *LA*) and he 
 wants a $400 deposit to sell it to me for $1300 (complete bike, insane 
 price). The whole thing is odd. They can't send me a pic with measure tape 
 to prove a claim of *69cm standover*. It sure doesn't look like a 54.5 
 based on every other Riv stack I've seen and studied. Our messages have 
 been super cryptic. 

 I just *HOPE* anyone else looking for a blue homer in 58 or 54.5 
 doesn't fall for a scam. Posting here amongst people I trust, admire, and 
 have become friends with. My Roadini frame and dozens of parts on both my 
 Rivs have been purchased from this group. I don't want to stir up any 
 drama 
 if this is in fact a legit sale, but the listing is from Jan 2023, 16 
 months old, this bike at any price under $2000 should be long gone on it's 
 way to a new owner. PS. I'm not sending a deposit.




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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: Appaloosa Overnighter

[Roberta]

Congratulations on your Appaloosa! My first Riv was one and I absolutely 
loved the ride. This bike is made for adventures like yours, which I loved 
reading about. I wish you many years of great adventures and thanks for the 
write up and pictures.

Roberta
Philadelphia, PA, USA

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 6:12:28 AM UTC-4 Dan wrote:

> Thank you for the kind responses everyone.
>
> Randy, Nicholas: I'd love to see photos of your Appaloosas set up for 
> touring, if you haven't shared them already.
>
> Patrick: I enjoy reading the reports from the foreign lands of the USA too 
> ;)
> I wish I could see mountains on the horizon! 
>
> On Wednesday 1 May 2024 at 04:12:22 UTC+9:30 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks for more very interesting report and photos from worldwide 
>> Rivendell riders. The rangeland looks much like the US Southwest but 
>> without the inevitable mountains on the horizon.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 5:44 AM Dan  wrote:
>>
>>> I bought my Appaloosa because I wanted a bike for adventures. I wanted a 
>>> bike that could take me and my things anywhere, on or off road. A bike that 
>>> was comfortable enough to ride all day for days.
>>>
>>> To that end, one month after my new Appaloosa rolled out of the shop, I 
>>> departed with a friend on what would be my first ever overnighter!
>>>
>>>
>>> *Disaster strikes*
>>>
>>> On the morning of the ride I felt great. I was packed, I’d made it to 
>>> the 7:28am train, and I was waiting at another station to join my friend on 
>>> a train that would take us to the end of the line. Looking at my bike, I 
>>> noticed the seat was a little crooked. I loosened the bolt, straightened 
>>> the seat, and tightened it. The train arrived, I hopped on, said hi to my 
>>> friend, and noticed the seat was still moving when I tried to twist it. So 
>>> I attempted to tighten it some more.
>>>
>>>
>>> **SNAP**
>>>
>>>
>>> The seatpost binder bolt had snapped. I stared in disbelief at the 
>>> broken bolt in my hands. No!
>>>
>>> I recalled reading on the Analog Cycles website that Rivs use a standard 
>>> bolt for their seatposts, so we spent the remainder of the train ride 
>>> frantically searching for an open hardware store. Unfortunately, it was the 
>>> ANZAC Day public holiday and so all shops only opened at 12pm. We were out 
>>> of luck. Defeated, we resigned to train back to town so I could swap my 
>>> gear over to my Straggler.
>>>
>>> As we neared my front door, my friend had a brainwave. “What if you see 
>>> if you have the right bolt at home?”. It turns out that I did - on an 
>>> unused post-to-IS-mount disc brake adapter - and the Riv was on the road 
>>> again! This time, I made sure to grease the bolt before install, and it 
>>> tightened smoothly and snugly.
>>>
>>>
>>> *On the Road*
>>>
>>> Our destination was a series of seaside holiday towns on the south coast 
>>> of South Australia’s Fluerieu Peninsula. We started our riding at the end 
>>> of the train line, in the picturesque wine region of McLaren Vale. After a 
>>> well-earned coffee, we rode through autumn-hued vineyards before reaching 
>>> the escarpment - our big climb for the day. I learned that even a 24x36 low 
>>> gear doesn’t make for an easy climb of 10+% gravel grades, and we enjoyed a 
>>> walk up the hill in good spirits.
>>>
>>>
>>> Following lunch at the top of the escarpment, we made our way through 
>>> the rolling landscape of the peninsula, passing through a forest plantation 
>>> and several conservation parks on the way. After an unexpected creek 
>>> crossing we ran in to a family of campers, whose comment of ‘I couldn’t 
>>> imagine two bikes better set up for adventure’ left us in smiles. We even 
>>> felt good about the next hour or so of alternately walking and riding 
>>> through the sandy scrubland!
>>>
>>>
>>> Despite the late start, we made it to the coast at the perfect time - 
>>> just as the sun was setting. I’d planned the last few km to follow the bike 
>>> path along the coast, and it was sublime.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1195.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: E0C3AD72-4167-49D8-95CC-B6678632E349.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1221.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1233.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Day Two*
>>>
>>> I’m one of those people that just can’t ride the same way twice on one 
>>> trip. My rides have to be loops. Our return leg was longer than the first 
>>> one, eventuating in 90km of riding with some 1,400m of climbing. We set out 
>>> early took our time, enjoying the expansive vistas from the gravel farm 
>>> roads, and finding our zone in the long, gradual climbs. Memorable moments 
>>> include meeting some people hiking the Heysen trail while we had stopped in 
>>> what we thought was the middle of nowhere to have a snack, and coffee and 
>>> scones in the cozy, wood-panelled cafe in the tiny town of Inman Valley. 
>>> After passing through the Myponga reservoir and enjoying a beer and 
>>> much-needed fries at the adjacent brewery, we made one last climb befor

Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Andrew Joseph]

Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a Homer as well!I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset.  Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there.  Fortunately, I sent no payment.I also reported this to Admin.  Sent from my iPhoneOn May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get scammed?  BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly from the seller. On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:@Brenton-I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was not so.The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.comYour message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can help you.My regards,Kim Hetzel.I got scammed too last year over these - https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/  last year.On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that I feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via jeff00m...@gmail.com who said they were friends with a seller named "Leonard" and I gave my phone number to that emailer.The text message correspondence was with phone number 424-269-2563 which got super cryptic and scammy. When they told me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have lots of friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, they accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this says scam. I would love to be wrong.On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in my ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing:" @Brenton -If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue Homer under the owner's name of Payton Beargrr Very near mint condition A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm with 650b wheels. Unsure of year but it's likely 4 or less years old. Taiwanese made frame. I am not the original owner but this appears to be a Rivendell build. -Nitto handlebars, stem, and seat post-Brooks saddle-Paul racer brakes, Paul canti levers-Paul thumbie mounts with Microshift shifters-Riv Silver double crankset-IRD front derailleur-Shimano Alivio rear derailleur-MKS Grip Monarch pedals-mismatched Shimano hubs, no name rims-Soma Cazadero 650 x 42b-Sackville bagThe only imperfections are the two small paint chips on the top tube, noted in the pictures. $2500 + shipping. Let me know if you have any questions.Kim Hetzel."Other people seem to also be looking at this bike. Robert Carlton said owner confirmed it's a 58. The facebook post has some comments and the owner says the bike is in Fargo ND.I've been texting with someone (who says the bike is in LA) and he wants a $400 deposit to sell it to me for $1300 (complete bike, insane price). The whole thing is odd. They can't send me a pic with measure tape to prove a claim of 69cm standover. It sure doesn't look like a 54.5 based on every other Riv stack I've seen and studied. Our messages have been super cryptic. I just HOPE anyone else looking for a blue homer in 58 or 54.5 doesn't fall for a scam. Posting here amongst people I trust, admire, and have become friends with. My Roadini frame and dozens of parts on both my Rivs have been purchased from this group. I don't want to stir up any drama if this is in fact a legit sale, but the listing is from Jan 2023, 16 months old, this bike at any price under $2000 should be long gone on it's way to a new owner. PS. I'm not sending a deposit.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Doug H.]

I concur. I sent this scammer Leah's way unknowingly. Stay away from this 
person. In this case his "cousin" just bought a Homer and so was selling 
his Roadini. He must troll this group for want to buy posts and pounces.  
Karma is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect or 
consequences. Here's hoping that a little karma is heading his way.
Doug

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:

> Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a Homer 
> as well!
>
> I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset.  
> Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. 
>  Fortunately, I sent no payment.
>
> I also reported this to Admin.  
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I 
> wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
>> scammed?  
>>
>> BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly 
>> from the seller. 
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> @Brenton-
>>> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was not 
>>> so.
>>>
>>> The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
>>> Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can 
>>> help you.
>>>
>>> My regards,
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>> I got scammed too last year over these - 
>>> https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
>>>   
>>> last year.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many 
 pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that I 
 feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be 
 bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. 

 I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via *jeff00m...@gmail.com* 
 who said they were friends with a seller named "Leonard" and I gave my 
 phone number to that emailer.

 The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 
 <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they told 
 me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have lots 
 of 
 friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, they 
 accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.

 Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this 
 says *scam*. I would love to be wrong.

 On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:

> Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in my 
> ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing:
>
> " @Brenton -
> If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue 
> Homer under the owner's name of 
> *Payton Beargrr* 
> 
>  
>
> Very near mint condition A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm with 650b wheels. 
> Unsure of year but it's likely 4 or less years old. Taiwanese made frame. 
> I 
> am not the original owner but this appears to be a Rivendell build. 
> -Nitto handlebars, stem, and seat post
> -Brooks saddle
> -Paul racer brakes, Paul canti levers
> -Paul thumbie mounts with Microshift shifters
> -Riv Silver double crankset
> -IRD front derailleur
> -Shimano Alivio rear derailleur
> -MKS Grip Monarch pedals
> -mismatched Shimano hubs, no name rims
> -Soma Cazadero 650 x 42b
> -Sackville bag
> The only imperfections are the two small paint chips on the top tube, 
> noted in the pictures. 
> $2500 + shipping. 
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Kim Hetzel."
>
> Other people seem to also be looking at this bike. Robert Carlton said 
> owner confirmed it's a 58. The facebook post has some comments and the 
> owner says the bike is in *Fargo ND.*
>
> I've been texting with someone (who says the bike is in *LA*) and he 
> wants a $400 deposit to sell it to me for $1300 (complete bike, insane 
> price). The whole thing is odd. They can't send me a pic with measure 
> tape 
> to prove a claim of *69cm standover*. It sure doesn't look like a 
> 54.5 based on every other Riv stack I've seen and studied. Our messages 
> have been super cryptic. 
>
> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Hoch in ut]

I’m glad this has been brought up to keep others from getting scammed. 
If there are any others that need to be brought to the group’s attention, 
please speak up. I feel it’s our responsibility and duty to protect the 
group. Don’t be timid. See something, say something. 

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:00:50 AM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:

> I concur. I sent this scammer Leah's way unknowingly. Stay away from this 
> person. In this case his "cousin" just bought a Homer and so was selling 
> his Roadini. He must troll this group for want to buy posts and pounces.  
> Karma is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect or 
> consequences. Here's hoping that a little karma is heading his way.
> Doug
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>
>> Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a Homer 
>> as well!
>>
>> I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset.  
>> Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. 
>>  Fortunately, I sent no payment.
>>
>> I also reported this to Admin.  
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
>> wrote:
>>
>> That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I 
>> wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
>>> scammed?  
>>>
>>> BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly 
>>> from the seller. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 @Brenton-
 I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was 
 not so.

 The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
 Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can 
 help you.

 My regards,
 Kim Hetzel.
 I got scammed too last year over these - 
 https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
   
 last year.

 On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many 
> pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that I 
> feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be 
> bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. 
>
> I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via *jeff00m...@gmail.com* 
> who said they were friends with a seller named "Leonard" and I gave my 
> phone number to that emailer.
>
> The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 
> <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they 
> told me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have 
> lots of friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, 
> they accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.
>
> Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this 
> says *scam*. I would love to be wrong.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>
>> Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in 
>> my ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing:
>>
>> " @Brenton -
>> If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue 
>> Homer under the owner's name of 
>> *Payton Beargrr* 
>> 
>>  
>>
>> Very near mint condition A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm with 650b wheels. 
>> Unsure of year but it's likely 4 or less years old. Taiwanese made 
>> frame. I 
>> am not the original owner but this appears to be a Rivendell build. 
>> -Nitto handlebars, stem, and seat post
>> -Brooks saddle
>> -Paul racer brakes, Paul canti levers
>> -Paul thumbie mounts with Microshift shifters
>> -Riv Silver double crankset
>> -IRD front derailleur
>> -Shimano Alivio rear derailleur
>> -MKS Grip Monarch pedals
>> -mismatched Shimano hubs, no name rims
>> -Soma Cazadero 650 x 42b
>> -Sackville bag
>> The only imperfections are the two small paint chips on the top tube, 
>> noted in the pictures. 
>> $2500 + shipping. 
>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel."
>>
>> Other people seem to also be looking at this bike. Robert Carlton 
>> said owner confirmed it's a 58. The facebook post has some comments and 
>> the 
>> owner says the bike is i

Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Eric Marth]

Kim: I don't see how the administrator of this forum has any bearing on 
someone's Facebook post. The scam is potentially occurring via Facebook, 
not our forum. You reposted the FB listing here with a link. 

Regarding the Blue Lug purchase, how on earth were you "scammed" by Blue 
Lug? They are one of the best bike shops in the universe and I'm sure they 
would correct any mistake or problem with your purchase. I dislike like the 
implication that Blue Lug would scam anyone. 

Regarding scams and buying/selling: If anything about the listing or your 
interactions with a seller makes you uncomfortable or sets off *any* alarms 
just drop the exchange and walk away. It's easy! If it's too good to be 
true, it probably is. Although sometimes you have to know when to snag a 
deal like when someone posts a Nitto S83 seatpost for $30. Sellers should 
be happy and eager to share photos or details about frames or bikes for 
sale. 

Here on the forum it's easy to check someone's history simply by searching 
their email address and reviewing their past posts to see if they 
participate in discussions, buy and sell goods and you can get a sense of 
how long they've been part of the community. All common sense stuff. 

Also — Don't end up handing $50,000 in cash to a stranger on the street! 
https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 8:00:50 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I concur. I sent this scammer Leah's way unknowingly. Stay away from this 
> person. In this case his "cousin" just bought a Homer and so was selling 
> his Roadini. He must troll this group for want to buy posts and pounces.  
> Karma is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect or 
> consequences. Here's hoping that a little karma is heading his way.
> Doug
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>
>> Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a Homer 
>> as well!
>>
>> I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset.  
>> Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. 
>>  Fortunately, I sent no payment.
>>
>> I also reported this to Admin.  
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
>> wrote:
>>
>> That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I 
>> wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
>>> scammed?  
>>>
>>> BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly 
>>> from the seller. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 @Brenton-
 I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was 
 not so.

 The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
 Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can 
 help you.

 My regards,
 Kim Hetzel.
 I got scammed too last year over these - 
 https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
   
 last year.

 On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many 
> pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that I 
> feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be 
> bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. 
>
> I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via *jeff00m...@gmail.com* 
> who said they were friends with a seller named "Leonard" and I gave my 
> phone number to that emailer.
>
> The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 
> <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they 
> told me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have 
> lots of friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, 
> they accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.
>
> Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this 
> says *scam*. I would love to be wrong.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>
>> Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in 
>> my ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing:
>>
>> " @Brenton -
>> If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue 
>> Homer under the owner's name of 
>> *Payton Beargrr* 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Robert Calton]

Good morning all, I did talk to this seller and ended up buying a different 
Homer frame from someone else. *It's most definitely not a 54.5cm frame*. I 
got the sense that their "client" is not local to them and they wouldn't be 
able to confirm any measurements, etc. 

If they're now saying $1300 for the complete bike, it's 200% a scam. Be 
safe out there. 

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:20:37 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Kim: I don't see how the administrator of this forum has any bearing on 
> someone's Facebook post. The scam is potentially occurring via Facebook, 
> not our forum. You reposted the FB listing here with a link. 
>
> Regarding the Blue Lug purchase, how on earth were you "scammed" by Blue 
> Lug? They are one of the best bike shops in the universe and I'm sure they 
> would correct any mistake or problem with your purchase. I dislike like the 
> implication that Blue Lug would scam anyone. 
>
> Regarding scams and buying/selling: If anything about the listing or your 
> interactions with a seller makes you uncomfortable or sets off *any* 
> alarms just drop the exchange and walk away. It's easy! If it's too good to 
> be true, it probably is. Although sometimes you have to know when to snag a 
> deal like when someone posts a Nitto S83 seatpost for $30. Sellers should 
> be happy and eager to share photos or details about frames or bikes for 
> sale. 
>
> Here on the forum it's easy to check someone's history simply by searching 
> their email address and reviewing their past posts to see if they 
> participate in discussions, buy and sell goods and you can get a sense of 
> how long they've been part of the community. All common sense stuff. 
>
> Also — Don't end up handing $50,000 in cash to a stranger on the street! 
> https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 8:00:50 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I concur. I sent this scammer Leah's way unknowingly. Stay away from this 
>> person. In this case his "cousin" just bought a Homer and so was selling 
>> his Roadini. He must troll this group for want to buy posts and pounces.  
>> Karma is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect or 
>> consequences. Here's hoping that a little karma is heading his way.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>>
>>> Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a 
>>> Homer as well!
>>>
>>> I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset.  
>>> Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. 
>>>  Fortunately, I sent no payment.
>>>
>>> I also reported this to Admin.  
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I 
>>> wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
 scammed?  

 BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly 
 from the seller. 

 On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

> @Brenton-
> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was 
> not so.
>
> The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
> Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can 
> help you.
>
> My regards,
> Kim Hetzel.
> I got scammed too last year over these - 
> https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
>   
> last year.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many 
>> pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that 
>> I 
>> feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be 
>> bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. 
>>
>> I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via 
>> *jeff00m...@gmail.com* who said they were friends with a seller 
>> named "Leonard" and I gave my phone number to that emailer.
>>
>> The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 
>> <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they 
>> told me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have 
>> lots of friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, 
>> they accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.
>>
>> Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this 
>> says *scam*. I would love to be wrong.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>>
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Drew Fitchette]

The "Jeff" in question reached out to me in response to a WTB post. I asked 
what his "Friend" was selling and he said a 60cm Homer, which I thought was 
strange considering my post specifically said 54/55/56cm. 

A quick check to see that he'd never posted in the forum and I assumed it 
was nefarious. 

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:20:37 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Kim: I don't see how the administrator of this forum has any bearing on 
> someone's Facebook post. The scam is potentially occurring via Facebook, 
> not our forum. You reposted the FB listing here with a link. 
>
> Regarding the Blue Lug purchase, how on earth were you "scammed" by Blue 
> Lug? They are one of the best bike shops in the universe and I'm sure they 
> would correct any mistake or problem with your purchase. I dislike like the 
> implication that Blue Lug would scam anyone. 
>
> Regarding scams and buying/selling: If anything about the listing or your 
> interactions with a seller makes you uncomfortable or sets off *any* 
> alarms just drop the exchange and walk away. It's easy! If it's too good to 
> be true, it probably is. Although sometimes you have to know when to snag a 
> deal like when someone posts a Nitto S83 seatpost for $30. Sellers should 
> be happy and eager to share photos or details about frames or bikes for 
> sale. 
>
> Here on the forum it's easy to check someone's history simply by searching 
> their email address and reviewing their past posts to see if they 
> participate in discussions, buy and sell goods and you can get a sense of 
> how long they've been part of the community. All common sense stuff. 
>
> Also — Don't end up handing $50,000 in cash to a stranger on the street! 
> https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 8:00:50 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I concur. I sent this scammer Leah's way unknowingly. Stay away from this 
>> person. In this case his "cousin" just bought a Homer and so was selling 
>> his Roadini. He must troll this group for want to buy posts and pounces.  
>> Karma is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect or 
>> consequences. Here's hoping that a little karma is heading his way.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>>
>>> Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a 
>>> Homer as well!
>>>
>>> I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset.  
>>> Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. 
>>>  Fortunately, I sent no payment.
>>>
>>> I also reported this to Admin.  
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I 
>>> wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
 scammed?  

 BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly 
 from the seller. 

 On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

> @Brenton-
> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was 
> not so.
>
> The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
> Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can 
> help you.
>
> My regards,
> Kim Hetzel.
> I got scammed too last year over these - 
> https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
>   
> last year.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many 
>> pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that 
>> I 
>> feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be 
>> bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. 
>>
>> I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via 
>> *jeff00m...@gmail.com* who said they were friends with a seller 
>> named "Leonard" and I gave my phone number to that emailer.
>>
>> The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 
>> <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they 
>> told me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have 
>> lots of friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, 
>> they accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.
>>
>> Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this 
>> says *scam*. I would love to be wrong.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my 

Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Robert Calton]

To add, *Blue Lug is super legit*, I've placed two orders with them this 
month and both were super smooth. Great prices, great parts availability 
that I couldn't find anywhere else, and fast shipping.

>From what I gather, they're truly pillars of the Riv (and Riv-like bike) 
community. Watch some of their videos, they're true bike people through and 
through. You can order with confidence from them. 

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 10:28:39 AM UTC-4 Brenton Eastman wrote:

> All good points. I didn’t really think twice about “Jeff” private 
> messaging me. I’ve always assumed best intent here with the RBW bunch. BUT 
> that email address has never posted or contributed here. Red flag #1. The 
> super confusing text messages were full of red flags and I’m walking away. 
>
> I mostly wanted to post here as a warning to others that are interested 
> and searching for AHHs. *Within 20 minutes of me starting this thread, 
> the text messager got word, and began to harass me.* So, someone involved 
> is watching the forum pretty closely. I’m annoyed that I wasted a few hours 
> over a couple days unraveling the fact that it was indeed too good to be 
> true. The search for my wife’s future Homer continues!! 
>
> I’d +1 Eric’s comment that Blug Lug is 1000% legit and ever order I’ve 
> placed with them is pleasant and exceeds my expectations. 
>
> [image: image0.png]
> [image: image1.png]
> [image: image2.png]
>
> Finding some comedic relief here. Be careful folks!!
>
> On May 3, 2024, at 6:20 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Kim: I don't see how the administrator of this forum has any bearing on 
> someone's Facebook post. The scam is potentially occurring via Facebook, 
> not our forum. You reposted the FB listing here with a link. 
>
>
> Regarding the Blue Lug purchase, how on earth were you "scammed" by Blue 
> Lug? They are one of the best bike shops in the universe and I'm sure they 
> would correct any mistake or problem with your purchase. I dislike like the 
> implication that Blue Lug would scam anyone. 
>
> Regarding scams and buying/selling: If anything about the listing or your 
> interactions with a seller makes you uncomfortable or sets off *any* 
> alarms just drop the exchange and walk away. It's easy! If it's too good to 
> be true, it probably is. Although sometimes you have to know when to snag a 
> deal like when someone posts a Nitto S83 seatpost for $30. Sellers should 
> be happy and eager to share photos or details about frames or bikes for 
> sale. 
>
> Here on the forum it's easy to check someone's history simply by searching 
> their email address and reviewing their past posts to see if they 
> participate in discussions, buy and sell goods and you can get a sense of 
> how long they've been part of the community. All common sense stuff. 
>
> Also — Don't end up handing $50,000 in cash to a stranger on the street! 
> https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 8:00:50 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I concur. I sent this scammer Leah's way unknowingly. Stay away from this 
>> person. In this case his "cousin" just bought a Homer and so was selling 
>> his Roadini. He must troll this group for want to buy posts and pounces.  
>> Karma is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect or 
>> consequences. Here's hoping that a little karma is heading his way.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>>
>>> Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a 
>>> Homer as well!
>>>
>>> I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset.  
>>> Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. 
>>>  Fortunately, I sent no payment.
>>>
>>> I also reported this to Admin.  
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I 
>>> wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
 scammed?  

 BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly 
 from the seller. 

 On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

> @Brenton-
> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was 
> not so.
>
> The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
> Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can 
> help you.
>
> My regards,
> Kim Hetzel.
> I got scammed too last year over these - 
> https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
>   
> last year.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The mo

[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King, Nitto, White Industries, Outer Shell

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump and price drop:

2) White Industries ENO 180mm Square Taper Crankset with 32mm Chainring - 
$140

4) Nitto Lugged Seatpost 27.2 - $110

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:57:28 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:

> Yeah, I've been looking at a Stronglight Delta and not having seen one on 
> a bike or in person I'm a little worried it may be the worst looking 
> headset around
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:11:05 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> I ended up going with an older Stronglight, this one:
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/256364460561
>>
>> It brought down the shimmy's significantly and didn't affect the handling 
>> too much either. Not as pretty though
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 3:55:48 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:
>>
>>> What headset did you end up replacing the King with? I'm guessing from 
>>> the parts you're selling that you gravitate towards let's just say nice and 
>>> I'd also like a  needle-bearing headset that fits that qualification
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[maxcr]

I also got looped in with a scammer through the FB group, probably the same 
guy. (for me it was a wheelset)

Should we consider asking the admin of this google group to turn the group 
private? I think the i-bob list did this recently and while it won't solve 
all problems, it might help.

Max

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 10:49:19 AM UTC-4 nca...@gmail.com wrote:

> To add, *Blue Lug is super legit*, I've placed two orders with them this 
> month and both were super smooth. Great prices, great parts availability 
> that I couldn't find anywhere else, and fast shipping.
>
> From what I gather, they're truly pillars of the Riv (and Riv-like bike) 
> community. Watch some of their videos, they're true bike people through and 
> through. You can order with confidence from them. 
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 10:28:39 AM UTC-4 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>
>> All good points. I didn’t really think twice about “Jeff” private 
>> messaging me. I’ve always assumed best intent here with the RBW bunch. BUT 
>> that email address has never posted or contributed here. Red flag #1. The 
>> super confusing text messages were full of red flags and I’m walking away. 
>>
>> I mostly wanted to post here as a warning to others that are interested 
>> and searching for AHHs. *Within 20 minutes of me starting this thread, 
>> the text messager got word, and began to harass me.* So, someone 
>> involved is watching the forum pretty closely. I’m annoyed that I wasted a 
>> few hours over a couple days unraveling the fact that it was indeed too 
>> good to be true. The search for my wife’s future Homer continues!! 
>>
>> I’d +1 Eric’s comment that Blug Lug is 1000% legit and ever order I’ve 
>> placed with them is pleasant and exceeds my expectations. 
>>
>> [image: image0.png]
>> [image: image1.png]
>> [image: image2.png]
>>
>> Finding some comedic relief here. Be careful folks!!
>>
>> On May 3, 2024, at 6:20 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Kim: I don't see how the administrator of this forum has any bearing on 
>> someone's Facebook post. The scam is potentially occurring via Facebook, 
>> not our forum. You reposted the FB listing here with a link. 
>>
>>
>> Regarding the Blue Lug purchase, how on earth were you "scammed" by Blue 
>> Lug? They are one of the best bike shops in the universe and I'm sure they 
>> would correct any mistake or problem with your purchase. I dislike like the 
>> implication that Blue Lug would scam anyone. 
>>
>> Regarding scams and buying/selling: If anything about the listing or your 
>> interactions with a seller makes you uncomfortable or sets off *any* 
>> alarms just drop the exchange and walk away. It's easy! If it's too good to 
>> be true, it probably is. Although sometimes you have to know when to snag a 
>> deal like when someone posts a Nitto S83 seatpost for $30. Sellers should 
>> be happy and eager to share photos or details about frames or bikes for 
>> sale. 
>>
>> Here on the forum it's easy to check someone's history simply by 
>> searching their email address and reviewing their past posts to see if they 
>> participate in discussions, buy and sell goods and you can get a sense of 
>> how long they've been part of the community. All common sense stuff. 
>>
>> Also — Don't end up handing $50,000 in cash to a stranger on the street! 
>> https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 8:00:50 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I concur. I sent this scammer Leah's way unknowingly. Stay away from 
>>> this person. In this case his "cousin" just bought a Homer and so was 
>>> selling his Roadini. He must troll this group for want to buy posts and 
>>> pounces.  Karma is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect 
>>> or consequences. Here's hoping that a little karma is heading his way.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>>>
 Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a 
 Homer as well!

 I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset.  
 Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. 
  Fortunately, I sent no payment.

 I also reported this to Admin.  

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I 
 wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.



 On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
> scammed?  
>
> BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy 
> directly from the seller. 
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Brenton-
>> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was 
>> not so.
>>
>> The administrator for 

[RBW] Re: One way to try out a road bike for the Road Curious

[Brenton Eastman]

I had the same year Fuji Team, same color brown with the gold hoops. Such a 
sweet bike. 

Love this thread, though I did buy a Roadini instead of 'trying' another 
90s road bike, since I rode them for a decade. No regrets!

On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:36:33 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Those of us who did time "in shops" definitely have been imprinted with 
> the stuff that was good at that time  It's inescapable...
>
> BL "Village Schwinn, Yorba Linda CA" in EC
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 3:29:30 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 3:23:58 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>> So I picked up an ’82 Team Fuji.  Got it for $150. 
>>
>>
>> OMG those gold UKAI rims are worth $150 apiece. Yes, LOVELY bike! (Full 
>> disclosure, I worked in a bike shop selling Fuji's in the late 70's, so I 
>> have a bias.)
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: One way to try out a road bike for the Road Curious

[Brenton Eastman]

I had the same year Fuji Team, same color brown with the gold hoops. Such a 
sweet bike. 

Love this thread, though I did buy a Roadini instead of 'trying' another 
90s road bike, since I rode them for a decade. No regrets!

+1 on the working in a shop. Former mechanic at The Bicycle Exchange in 
Cambridge, MA.

On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:36:33 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Those of us who did time "in shops" definitely have been imprinted with 
> the stuff that was good at that time  It's inescapable...
>
> BL "Village Schwinn, Yorba Linda CA" in EC
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 3:29:30 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 3:23:58 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>> So I picked up an ’82 Team Fuji.  Got it for $150. 
>>
>>
>> OMG those gold UKAI rims are worth $150 apiece. Yes, LOVELY bike! (Full 
>> disclosure, I worked in a bike shop selling Fuji's in the late 70's, so I 
>> have a bias.)
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eric M.'s new video: Shop tour, favorite workshops, tool organization and my next bicycle build

[Eric Marth]

Thanks everyone for watchin'! 

Marty: The Match Game was before my time but I certainly came up with Bob 
Barker. The $20 corded mic I bought just didn't seem right clipped to my 
shirt so I went for the long mic. 

Patrick: I appreciate the kind notes. Sorry about the SW gardening woes, I 
know nothing of gardening in that clime. I've had my own troubles here! I 
was in a different house about 10 years ago and the garden was a lot of 
work but it was abundant and without many difficulties. The soil and sun 
are different in this spot and growing has taken a lot of trial and error. 
I'm finally getting the hang of things. A groundhog just showed up on the 
scene, I saw them (unsure if it's a male or female) heartily eating some 
lettuce while sitting in the raised bed earlier this week! It's fenced off 
but they found a way in. I have to admit it was kind of cute, holding a 
huge piece of lettuce, but it still left me cursing. I'm glad you like the 
tools!

On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Oh, and I forwarded the video link to Jeremiah; he will appreciate it.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Kim H.]

@Roberta and Eric -
Let me clarify how I was scammed. I posted here last July wanting to buy 
Blue Lug's
*REW10 WORKS* hex brass valve caps here in the states to save myself some 
monies in overseas shipping costs. 

Anita Batya saw my post and claimed that she had a pair. Anita told me that 
she lived in Seattle, of which is relatively close to me (This was a lie. 
She lived in Pennsylvania after doing some online homework after the fact). 
If I wanted them, she requested me to make a payment through a third party 
email address of which she claimed it was her bookkeeper. Anita told me 
that she was waiting for an answer from Paypal for a refund. I sent her 
money (I forgot what amount it was $50.00~?) several times. This kept going 
in circles over and over again. By then, I felt that there was something 
mighty strange and peculiar going on. I caught on that I was being scammed. 
I did not respond back to her. This was my first time being scammed over 
something that I really wanted. My apologies for there might be some holes 
left out from my recollection of my interaction with Anita. 

Later down the road, there was other members herein and over on the IBOB 
group being scammed by Anita. Skip Montanaro, the administrator accepted Anita 
Batya's membership. When I told Skip that she was/is a scammer, he quickly 
took action and denied her membership.

https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/5FXmDXVSG6c/m/yGCjPQ3KBAAJ
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/WRzS3bBRKcc

Kim Hetzel. 

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:24:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> The "Jeff" in question reached out to me in response to a WTB post. I 
> asked what his "Friend" was selling and he said a 60cm Homer, which I 
> thought was strange considering my post specifically said 54/55/56cm. 
>
> A quick check to see that he'd never posted in the forum and I assumed it 
> was nefarious. 
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:20:37 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Kim: I don't see how the administrator of this forum has any bearing on 
>> someone's Facebook post. The scam is potentially occurring via Facebook, 
>> not our forum. You reposted the FB listing here with a link. 
>>
>> Regarding the Blue Lug purchase, how on earth were you "scammed" by Blue 
>> Lug? They are one of the best bike shops in the universe and I'm sure they 
>> would correct any mistake or problem with your purchase. I dislike like the 
>> implication that Blue Lug would scam anyone. 
>>
>> Regarding scams and buying/selling: If anything about the listing or your 
>> interactions with a seller makes you uncomfortable or sets off *any* 
>> alarms just drop the exchange and walk away. It's easy! If it's too good to 
>> be true, it probably is. Although sometimes you have to know when to snag a 
>> deal like when someone posts a Nitto S83 seatpost for $30. Sellers should 
>> be happy and eager to share photos or details about frames or bikes for 
>> sale. 
>>
>> Here on the forum it's easy to check someone's history simply by 
>> searching their email address and reviewing their past posts to see if they 
>> participate in discussions, buy and sell goods and you can get a sense of 
>> how long they've been part of the community. All common sense stuff. 
>>
>> Also — Don't end up handing $50,000 in cash to a stranger on the street! 
>> https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 8:00:50 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I concur. I sent this scammer Leah's way unknowingly. Stay away from 
>>> this person. In this case his "cousin" just bought a Homer and so was 
>>> selling his Roadini. He must troll this group for want to buy posts and 
>>> pounces.  Karma is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect 
>>> or consequences. Here's hoping that a little karma is heading his way.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>>>
 Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a 
 Homer as well!

 I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset.  
 Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. 
  Fortunately, I sent no payment.

 I also reported this to Admin.  

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I 
 wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.



 On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
> scammed?  
>
> BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy 
> directly from the seller. 
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Brenton-
>> I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was 
>> not s

[RBW] FS: 55cm Heron Touring frame, fork, headset

[Igor]

TT: 56.5cm Head tube angle: 72 degrees Seat tube angle: 72.5 degrees Rake: 
5 degrees BB Drop: 8cm Chain Stay: 45.5cm 100mm / 135mm spacing. Plenty of 
braze ons for fenders and racks. Three bottle cage mounts. Integrated rear 
brake hanger, or use V-brakes! For 700c wheels. I ran 32mm with fenders, 
but the frame has clearance for a slick 40 (or an undersized 40 knobby) 
Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/195592952@N03/albums/72177720316657401

$850 shipped plz

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[RBW] Sonoma Wine Country Century tomorrow! Anyone else?

[Pancake]

The Charlie H Gallop prototype is heading out for 100 miles tomorrow in 
Santa Rosa, basket and rain and all. Anyone else going to be on the ride 
tomorrow? 
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/29272184
I’ve done this once before (my only prior Century) and it was wonderful … 
but it didn’t include tomorrow’s predicted 1” of rain peaking just before 
the ride begins.

Related to rain: I have a light rain resistant jacket, partial fenders 
(MudX in front and Portland folding in back), and wool socks … any other 
suggestions for how to keep a bit dry and to dry out while riding? There’s 
a gear drop off point about 1/3rd of the way through which is when the rain 
should be receding, so I can ditch some gear. I’m just curious how the bits 
under my shorts will fair, I’m optimistic a bit of wind and time will dry 
me out when possible. Definitely time to get out the Brooks seat cover too!

Finally, I’ve never really “carb loaded” beyond having rice or pasta before 
a ride. But I bonked last weekend on a 50 mile ride (albeit without really 
eating much of anything before). Anyone have a preferred liquid carb filled 
drink so I don’t fill my body with just rice and corn flakes?

Hope everyone gets a great ride in this weekend!
Abe

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[RBW] WTB/ Rear Rack Advice

[Stephen Durfee]

Looking for a rear rack for my trusty All Rounder, something that will 
support panniers for some summer excursions...perhaps something like the 
Shiny Rear Rack. Does anyone have an extra they would be looking to 
offload? Or, suggestion for something more appropriate? 

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[RBW] Re: WTB/ Rear Rack Advice

[NYCbikeguy]

I have a tubus logo evo in black. the 2-tiered system allows for lower 
center of gravity for panniers, as well as no overlap between the panniers 
and whatever you load on top of the rack, and the lower tier is off-set 
towards the rear so as to minimize heel contact. I can take pics later in 
the evening if you send me a DM. I'm planning on selling for $70 + 
shipping. 

https://www.tubus.com/en/products/rear-carriers/tubus-product/logo-evo

Best,
Isaiah, NYC

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking for a rear rack for my trusty All Rounder, something that will 
> support panniers for some summer excursions...perhaps something like the 
> Shiny Rear Rack. Does anyone have an extra they would be looking to 
> offload? Or, suggestion for something more appropriate? 

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[RBW] Re: WTB/ Rear Rack Advice

[NYCbikeguy]

Oh, I also have an AR, so I may be able to mock-fit the rack to the bike to 
show you how it would look. Let me know!

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 2:26:17 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> I have a tubus logo evo in black. the 2-tiered system allows for lower 
> center of gravity for panniers, as well as no overlap between the panniers 
> and whatever you load on top of the rack, and the lower tier is off-set 
> towards the rear so as to minimize heel contact. I can take pics later in 
> the evening if you send me a DM. I'm planning on selling for $70 + 
> shipping. 
>
> https://www.tubus.com/en/products/rear-carriers/tubus-product/logo-evo
>
> Best,
> Isaiah, NYC
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looking for a rear rack for my trusty All Rounder, something that will 
>> support panniers for some summer excursions...perhaps something like the 
>> Shiny Rear Rack. Does anyone have an extra they would be looking to 
>> offload? Or, suggestion for something more appropriate? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: One way to try out a road bike for the Road Curious

[NYCbikeguy]

If any of you are in the NYC tri-state area, you are welcome to try out my 
Rivs if you are in the 5'10 - 6'2 range.
I have the original Riv Road (comparable to the roadini/roadeo, I assume), 
as well as the following:
56 All rounder
56 Toyo Atlantis
58 Waterford Atlantis
55 MIT Atlantis
58 Hunqapillar
Large Hubbuhubbuh

There's a great bike path near me on Yale campus, and I'm happy to let a 
fellow Riv enthusiast try it out!

Cheers!
Isaiah, NYC/New Haven, CT


On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 10:54:56 AM UTC-4 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> I had the same year Fuji Team, same color brown with the gold hoops. Such 
> a sweet bike. 
>
> Love this thread, though I did buy a Roadini instead of 'trying' another 
> 90s road bike, since I rode them for a decade. No regrets!
>
> +1 on the working in a shop. Former mechanic at The Bicycle Exchange in 
> Cambridge, MA.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:36:33 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Those of us who did time "in shops" definitely have been imprinted with 
>> the stuff that was good at that time  It's inescapable...
>>
>> BL "Village Schwinn, Yorba Linda CA" in EC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 3:29:30 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 3:23:58 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>>
>>> So I picked up an ’82 Team Fuji.  Got it for $150. 
>>>
>>>
>>> OMG those gold UKAI rims are worth $150 apiece. Yes, LOVELY bike! (Full 
>>> disclosure, I worked in a bike shop selling Fuji's in the late 70's, so I 
>>> have a bias.)
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Bilenkey Tandem 4 Sale

[NYCbikeguy]

Hey John, 
If that tandem sounds like it's too small for you, would you be interested 
in a Large Riv Hubbuhubbuh? Let me know if this piques your interest.

Best,
Isaiah, NYC

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 2:23:30 AM UTC-4 fl...@duck.com wrote:

> Micheal,
>
> Thank-you for the information. The frame will be too small for us if 
> Stephen designed the bike for the two of you. 
> The head tube looked taller to me and that indicated a taller build
> Kind Thanks for the information
> John
>
> On Apr 30, 2024, at 6:26 AM, Michael Hechmer  
> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how to answer your three questions. I am 6'+ and set my 
> saddle at 81cm above the BB. Does that help? The stoker stem telescopes 
> over a pretty wide range and I don't currently have saddles 
> I'm not sure how to answer your three questions.  I am 6'+ and set my 
> saddle at 81cm  above the BB.  Does that help?  The stoker stem telescopes 
> over a pretty wide range and I don't currently have saddles on the bike. 
>  The stoker top tube is 760mm; my wife is 5'6"  and switched out of drop 
> bars a few years ago to the albatross bars.  Anything else you would like 
> to know?
> Michael
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 1:30:45 AM UTC-4 fl...@duck.com wrote:
>
>> How tall and what inseam was the captain.
>> And what 8is the cockpit length for the stoker position (tip of stoker 
>> saddle to centre of bars at shoulder width?
>>
>> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 7:35:07 AM UTC-6 mhec...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> *The Basics:*
>>>
>>>- Custom, Large, Coupled, Touring Tandem
>>>- Brazed Steel, Powder Coated English Racing Green
>>>- Dimensions:
>>>   - Head Tube - 10.5” / 26.5 C
>>>   - Top Tubes - 22.5/57 & 30.5/77.5
>>>   - Seat Tubes - 22.75 / 58  & 17.75/45.5
>>>- Wheels - White Ind. Hubs & DaVinci V22 Rims  26” with 36 spokes
>>>- Crank - DaVinci with TA Zypher rings; 48/38/26
>>>- Casette 9 speed - Shimano Ultegra 12 -32
>>>- Deraillers - IRD Alpina & Shimano Ultegra
>>>- Shifters - Shimano Bar End Indexed/Friction
>>>- Brakes - Paul’s Neo-Retro with Tectro Levers, braise-ons for drum 
>>>brake
>>>- Head Set - Chris King, Stem - Nitto
>>>- Bars - Nitto Noodle & Nitto Albatross
>>>- Seat Posts Nitto & Cane Creek Thudbuster
>>>- Tires Panaracer
>>>- Chains - Connex
>>>- Kick Stand - Two legs
>>>- Front & Rear Touring Racks - Nitto, powder coated to match the 
>>>frame.
>>>- Fenders - Velo Orange 
>>>- Saddle & Pedals not included
>>>
>>>
>>> *Also Available*
>>>
>>>- Two Hard Shell Suitcases
>>>- Yakima Sidewinder car top carrier
>>>
>>>
>>> *The Pictures*
>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0oG7HOIlGKhAR1
>>>
>>> *The Performance:*
>>> This is a large touring tandem built for strength and stability under 
>>> weight.  It rides beautifully with or without load and is comfortable on 
>>> both dirt and paved surfaces  It is outfitted with top flight equipment 
>>> that will not fail you.  The rear top tube is quite long which affords the 
>>> stoker a more spacious cockpit.  The stays are long enough to accomodate 
>>> large paniers without interfering with the stoker’s heels.  The design 
>>> point was for 2”tires with fenders but currently fitted with 1.75 (1.5 
>>> actual) tires, which is all we could get the last time we replaced them.  
>>> The cranks have three pedal drillings to accomodate a range of leg lengths.
>>>
>>> *The Deal:*
>>> $2500 picked up at our home in Westford, VT.  or shipped at cost
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: spring parts bin clean-out

[Brian Turner]

UPDATE!!! Most things have sold (thanks everyone!), and I've lowered the 
price on a few of the things remaining. Shoot me an email if you're 
interested in anything that's left!

Mavic 26” single speed wheel set = $150
Silver D521 SUP rims (36h), front XT hub, rear Surly free/free hub (135mm), 
QR

Honjo Koken 26” hammered fender set w/ hardware (45mm wide) = $35

Brooks B66 honey sprung saddle (double rails) = $100
*could be used with the new Brooks double rail adapter!

4 rolls of “grass green” Newbaums bar tape = $10

Tubus Nova stainless front lowrider rack = SOLD

Nitto FU-82 Periscopa quill stem = SOLD

Nitto S65 seatpost (27.2) = SOLD

Gilles Berthoud bar-end mirror (black) = SOLD

Soma Champs Elysees front rack = SOLD

King Cage (robin’s egg blue Cerakote) = SOLD

Minoura Dura Cage bottle cage pair (red anodized) = SOLD

Knit leather gloves (not GOAT), slightly padded, XL = SOLD

PHOTOS HERE 

Thanks for looking!
Brian
Lex KY

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Doug H.]

I would be interested in an RBW51 for my Roadini if this sale does not 
happen.
Doug

On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:21:11 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> OK I tried emailing you 
>
> Bill
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:47:02 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> R10 found! @Bill I didn't receive your PM. Checked junk folder but 
>> nothing. Please try again when you are able. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:02:32 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 

 A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Tim Bantham]

I am all set on my rack needs. Thank you everyone. 

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 3:29:58 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I would be interested in an RBW51 for my Roadini if this sale does not 
> happen.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:21:11 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> OK I tried emailing you 
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:47:02 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> R10 found! @Bill I didn't receive your PM. Checked junk folder but 
>>> nothing. Please try again when you are able. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:02:32 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 
>
> A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?
>


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[RBW] Re: FS: Lots of nice Chrome parts for your builds/projects

[Drew Fitchette]

Levers have sold, everything else with some updated info/pricing before 
shipping:


   - *Velo Orange Silver Grand Cru Long Pull brake levers and shims - $OLD*
   - *Pair of Shimano DXR V brakes - $45*
   - *Clipper Triple Crank(with chain guard for double conversion) - $70*
   - *1 1/8” Nitto x Fairweather silver cable hanger(opened but never 
   mounted) - $25*
   - *Sram 11-34 cassette - $15*
   - *Shimano Deore LX M563 front and rear matching Derailleurs - $40 OBO*
   - *Velocity Atlas Front Wheel on Deore Hub by Hands on wheels(looks 
   nearly new) - $150*
   - *Single Tektro R559 side pull with second pair of kool stop pads(well 
   used, but works great) - $20*
   - *Pair of Soma Shikoro tires 38mm (low miles) - $40*
   - *Brooks Flyer Special (low miles, mounting scuffs on the rails) - $80*


On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:50:01 PM UTC-4 Steve wrote:

> Msg'd - VO Levers
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 5:57:17 PM UTC-4 nca...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Messaged about the cable hanger :) 
>
>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 4:25:05 PM UTC-4 Drew Fitchette wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Everyone!
>>>
>>> I recently put together a new build and in going through all the stuff 
>>> in my bin I realized I needed to cull through some my reserves/recently 
>>> acquired but swapped gear. Here's what I'm looking to move on to happy new 
>>> homes, Buyers pay shipping:
>>>
>>>
>>>- *Velo Orange Silver Grand Cru Long Pull brake levers and shims - 
>>>$45*
>>>- *Pair of Shimano DXR V brakes - $50*
>>>- *Clipper Triple Crank(with chain guard for double conversion - $70*
>>>- *1 1/8” Nitto x Fairweather silver cable hanger(opened but never 
>>>mounted) - $25*
>>>- *Sram 11-34 cassette - $15*
>>>- *Shimano Deore LX M563 front and rear matching Derailleurs - $45 
>>>OBO*
>>>- *Velocity Atlas Front Wheel on Deore Hub by Hands on wheels(looks 
>>>nearly new) - $150*
>>>- *Single Tektro R559 See pull with second pair of kool stop 
>>>pads(well used, but works great) - $20*
>>>- *Pair of Soma Shikoro tires 38mm (low miles) - $60*
>>>- *Brooks Flyer Special (low miles, mounting scuffs on the rails) - 
>>>$80*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Photos here 
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Jay]

I feel for those of you who have been scammed.  Hopefully, karma plays out 
for them, and perhaps you'll have a 'win' in the near future that makes up 
for it.

I'm almost to the point of quoting any online used buy/sell activity.

I've bought/sold bike stuff, and a few other categories of items, on kijiji 
for 10-15 years.  Pre-covid, didn't do too bad.  Most items would go in 1-2 
weeks, a lot of views, responses were generally positive even if a sale 
didn't occur.  Most who did respond, got back to you even if they decided 
to pass on the item.  Likewise, I would message on things I was interested 
in, and most sellers were respectful and good to deal with.  During covid, 
selling was a piece of cake.  Now, sigh, about 90% of the interactions I've 
had are with pinheads.  People who in one minute seem so interested "I can 
be there today between 3-4pm", and when you say you're working, how about 
after dinner, you never here another word from them (this has happened with 
8 out of the last 10 interactions).  I've had items listed for months with 
no activity.  I may donate a bunch of things to a bike collective or 
not-for-profit and hopefully the old parts (mainly saddles and stems) will 
go to a good home.  I'm a really positive person, but it's hard to be 
positive with a lot the online activity these days (and these are not 
scammers, just, pinheads!).

Buy/Sell looks great on this site.  I'm in Canada though so that's a bit of 
a challenge (though I do use cross border pick up site, and it works fine, 
both directions), plus I'm at my budget for spending on bike things, for 
now, and I have most of what I want.

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 11:07:48 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Roberta and Eric -
> Let me clarify how I was scammed. I posted here last July wanting to buy 
> Blue Lug's
> *REW10 WORKS* hex brass valve caps here in the states to save myself some 
> monies in overseas shipping costs. 
>
> Anita Batya saw my post and claimed that she had a pair. Anita told me 
> that she lived in Seattle, of which is relatively close to me (This was a 
> lie. She lived in Pennsylvania after doing some online homework after the 
> fact). If I wanted them, she requested me to make a payment through a third 
> party email address of which she claimed it was her bookkeeper. Anita told 
> me that she was waiting for an answer from Paypal for a refund. I sent 
> her money (I forgot what amount it was $50.00~?) several times. This kept 
> going in circles over and over again. By then, I felt that there was 
> something mighty strange and peculiar going on. I caught on that I was 
> being scammed. I did not respond back to her. This was my first time being 
> scammed over something that I really wanted. My apologies for there might 
> be some holes left out from my recollection of my interaction with Anita. 
>
> Later down the road, there was other members herein and over on the IBOB 
> group being scammed by Anita. Skip Montanaro, the administrator accepted 
> Anita 
> Batya's membership. When I told Skip that she was/is a scammer, he quickly 
> took action and denied her membership.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/5FXmDXVSG6c/m/yGCjPQ3KBAAJ
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/WRzS3bBRKcc
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:24:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The "Jeff" in question reached out to me in response to a WTB post. I 
>> asked what his "Friend" was selling and he said a 60cm Homer, which I 
>> thought was strange considering my post specifically said 54/55/56cm. 
>>
>> A quick check to see that he'd never posted in the forum and I assumed it 
>> was nefarious. 
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:20:37 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Kim: I don't see how the administrator of this forum has any bearing on 
>>> someone's Facebook post. The scam is potentially occurring via Facebook, 
>>> not our forum. You reposted the FB listing here with a link. 
>>>
>>> Regarding the Blue Lug purchase, how on earth were you "scammed" by Blue 
>>> Lug? They are one of the best bike shops in the universe and I'm sure they 
>>> would correct any mistake or problem with your purchase. I dislike like the 
>>> implication that Blue Lug would scam anyone. 
>>>
>>> Regarding scams and buying/selling: If anything about the listing or 
>>> your interactions with a seller makes you uncomfortable or sets off 
>>> *any* alarms just drop the exchange and walk away. It's easy! If it's 
>>> too good to be true, it probably is. Although sometimes you have to know 
>>> when to snag a deal like when someone posts a Nitto S83 seatpost for $30. 
>>> Sellers should be happy and eager to share photos or details about frames 
>>> or bikes for sale. 
>>>
>>> Here on the forum it's easy to check someone's history simply by 
>>> searching their email address and reviewing their past posts to see if they 
>>> participate in discussions, buy and sell goods and you can get a sense

[RBW] Re: Blue Lug Build Catalog

[Jay]

Before I purchased a Riv I spent some time on their site, and those builds; 
really well done.  I watched their videos, including those in Japanese, and 
they're very enjoyable.

On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 3:14:41 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> If you're wondering "How do I tastefully build and specify a bike?" this 
> is the *perfect* place to start. They also do a great job with the 
> photographs, some of the best out there. 
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 3:13:45 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah, this is a gallery I have bookmarked. So many great builds and 
>> lots and lots of inspiration. They always nail it, great ideas abound! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:27:09 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Many of you may already be aware of this, but Blue Lug has a nice 
>>> catalog of all it's Riv Builds for customers. In the even you want some 
>>> inspiration for your next build, or just want to see some different takes 
>>> on each frame, have a look:
>>>
>>> https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/model/rivendell-bicycle-works/
>>>
>>> If you click the dropdown in the top right corner and scroll down to the 
>>> Riv section you can even filter for specific models. Been super helpful as 
>>> I accrue the things needed for my upcoming 56cm 2TT Sam I scored from Abe 
>>> on here.
>>>
>>> Hopefully helpful for folks looking to build out that next frame or 
>>> rebuild your old favorite!
>>>
>>> - Drew
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB/ Rear Rack Advice

[Patrick Moore]

Until I started getting customs made I always chose the Tubus Fly (it comes
in ss and titanium as well as in black powdercoat) because (1) it is rated
for 20 kg, (2) is it minimalist and very light (sub 15 grams, about the
weight of the chromo Matthews custom on the RBFD), and it fits frames
without  chainstay braze ons (uses a bracket that bolts to the brake pivot
bolt or to a bolt through the b-p-b hole in the brake bridge).

I've carried many 40 lb loads and up to ~50 lb on many Fys on flexy 531 and
alum frames with no problems, tho' short shopping trips and not global
tours on bad dirt roads. For that I'd choose the Tubus Cargo Evo rack,
which I also once used, only for my purposes it was grossly overbuilt.
Rated to 26 kg but *tested* to 40 kg -- I'll let others parse the
difference. Or perhas the Cargo Classic? I think Tubus have down-rated
their racks by a few kg since I last bought one.

The Ultima Thule and Ne Plus Ultra and entirely Sic Itur Ad Astra rack of
all of them bar none at all is the Tubus Airy that is made of shiny
titanium, weighs 360 grams, and is mfr rated to 26 kg; I think the
*deustche* means, "tested to 30 kg."


   - 26 kg | 57.3 lbs (getestet mit 30 kg*)
   


$375 on everyone's favorite, vendor-squeezing, discount retail platform.

If my "road bike for errands" were 700C I'd be sorely tempted, but in fact
it uses 559 wheels and sports a stainless steel Fly shortened by a frame
builder.



On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:34 AM Stephen Durfee  wrote:

> Looking for a rear rack for my trusty All Rounder, something that will
> support panniers for some summer excursions...perhaps something like the
> Shiny Rear Rack. Does anyone have an extra they would be looking to
> offload? Or, suggestion for something more appropriate?
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Re: [RBW] Sonoma Wine Country Century tomorrow! Anyone else?

[Patrick Moore]

Please post photos, of bike and bikes, route, countryside, and vintages,
and describe all in excessive detail.

The nearby delightfully libertarian (as to HOA-type building standards*;
the libertarian social and political philosophy is false) "horsey suburb,"
Corrales, hosts an annual wine tour, tho' only for NM and not for the far
more numerous and I daresay worthy CA wines. I've been tempted, but the
thought of riding a fixed gear home south against a strong afternoon
headwind while pleasantly lethargic under the influence of many, many
samples has made me hesitate; not to mention the traffic. How does one deal
with this?

*$2M "estates" with ancient, crumbling, 600 sq foot adobes and singlewides,
locally top-rated restaurants and burrito shacks, rich Anglo incomers and
Hispano farmers resident since the 17th century, ancient acequia trails and
Loma Largo blvd where one winter circa 2010 I saw a Euro pro team training
in prep for the Tour at 5K feet in cool, sunny weather.

On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 10:11 AM Pancake  wrote:

> The Charlie H Gallop prototype is heading out for 100 miles tomorrow in
> Santa Rosa, basket and rain and all. Anyone else going to be on the ride
> tomorrow?
> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/29272184
> I’ve done this once before (my only prior Century) and it was wonderful …
> but it didn’t include tomorrow’s predicted 1” of rain peaking just before
> the ride begins.
>
> Related to rain: I have a light rain resistant jacket, partial fenders
> (MudX in front and Portland folding in back), and wool socks … any other
> suggestions for how to keep a bit dry and to dry out while riding? There’s
> a gear drop off point about 1/3rd of the way through which is when the rain
> should be receding, so I can ditch some gear. I’m just curious how the bits
> under my shorts will fair, I’m optimistic a bit of wind and time will dry
> me out when possible. Definitely time to get out the Brooks seat cover too!
>
> Finally, I’ve never really “carb loaded” beyond having rice or pasta
> before a ride. But I bonked last weekend on a 50 mile ride (albeit without
> really eating much of anything before). Anyone have a preferred liquid carb
> filled drink so I don’t fill my body with just rice and corn flakes?
>
> Hope everyone gets a great ride in this weekend!
> Abe
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Re: [RBW] Bilenkey Tandem 4 Sale

[jamin orrall]

John, this one may interest you.  No affiliation to seller, just saw it the 
other day, beautiful bike!

https://radbazaar.theradavist.com/listing/ZUUKgkM8VXj3vaq5wYuo?category=bikes&subcategory=touring_bikes

On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 11:23:30 PM UTC-7 fl...@duck.com wrote:

> Micheal,
>
> Thank-you for the information. The frame will be too small for us if 
> Stephen designed the bike for the two of you. 
> The head tube looked taller to me and that indicated a taller build
> Kind Thanks for the information
> John
>
> On Apr 30, 2024, at 6:26 AM, Michael Hechmer  
> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how to answer your three questions. I am 6'+ and set my 
> saddle at 81cm above the BB. Does that help? The stoker stem telescopes 
> over a pretty wide range and I don't currently have saddles 
> I'm not sure how to answer your three questions.  I am 6'+ and set my 
> saddle at 81cm  above the BB.  Does that help?  The stoker stem telescopes 
> over a pretty wide range and I don't currently have saddles on the bike. 
>  The stoker top tube is 760mm; my wife is 5'6"  and switched out of drop 
> bars a few years ago to the albatross bars.  Anything else you would like 
> to know?
> Michael
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 1:30:45 AM UTC-4 fl...@duck.com wrote:
>
>> How tall and what inseam was the captain.
>> And what 8is the cockpit length for the stoker position (tip of stoker 
>> saddle to centre of bars at shoulder width?
>>
>> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 7:35:07 AM UTC-6 mhec...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> *The Basics:*
>>>
>>>- Custom, Large, Coupled, Touring Tandem
>>>- Brazed Steel, Powder Coated English Racing Green
>>>- Dimensions:
>>>   - Head Tube - 10.5” / 26.5 C
>>>   - Top Tubes - 22.5/57 & 30.5/77.5
>>>   - Seat Tubes - 22.75 / 58  & 17.75/45.5
>>>- Wheels - White Ind. Hubs & DaVinci V22 Rims  26” with 36 spokes
>>>- Crank - DaVinci with TA Zypher rings; 48/38/26
>>>- Casette 9 speed - Shimano Ultegra 12 -32
>>>- Deraillers - IRD Alpina & Shimano Ultegra
>>>- Shifters - Shimano Bar End Indexed/Friction
>>>- Brakes - Paul’s Neo-Retro with Tectro Levers, braise-ons for drum 
>>>brake
>>>- Head Set - Chris King, Stem - Nitto
>>>- Bars - Nitto Noodle & Nitto Albatross
>>>- Seat Posts Nitto & Cane Creek Thudbuster
>>>- Tires Panaracer
>>>- Chains - Connex
>>>- Kick Stand - Two legs
>>>- Front & Rear Touring Racks - Nitto, powder coated to match the 
>>>frame.
>>>- Fenders - Velo Orange 
>>>- Saddle & Pedals not included
>>>
>>>
>>> *Also Available*
>>>
>>>- Two Hard Shell Suitcases
>>>- Yakima Sidewinder car top carrier
>>>
>>>
>>> *The Pictures*
>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0oG7HOIlGKhAR1
>>>
>>> *The Performance:*
>>> This is a large touring tandem built for strength and stability under 
>>> weight.  It rides beautifully with or without load and is comfortable on 
>>> both dirt and paved surfaces  It is outfitted with top flight equipment 
>>> that will not fail you.  The rear top tube is quite long which affords the 
>>> stoker a more spacious cockpit.  The stays are long enough to accomodate 
>>> large paniers without interfering with the stoker’s heels.  The design 
>>> point was for 2”tires with fenders but currently fitted with 1.75 (1.5 
>>> actual) tires, which is all we could get the last time we replaced them.  
>>> The cranks have three pedal drillings to accomodate a range of leg lengths.
>>>
>>> *The Deal:*
>>> $2500 picked up at our home in Westford, VT.  or shipped at cost
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB/ Rear Rack Advice

[Nick Payne]

I recently bought my wife a Tailfin rack plus panniers and rack top bag as 
a birthday present. Both the rack and panniers are very nicely made and 
very stable in use, but decidedly not cheap. I bought her the aluminium  
version of the rack, as I couldn't see the point in spending a wad of extra 
cash on the CF version to save 150g when you then hang 15 or 20kg of 
luggage on it. The rack can either mount to standard rack mounts or mounts 
to a special QR or thru-axle they provide if the frame doesn't have mount 
points or the mount points are already being used for mudguards. I bought 
both the QR and thru-axle mounts, as she has bikes with both axle systems. 
With the rack mounting to their axles, it's a matter of about a minute to 
transfer the rack between bikes.

https://www.tailfin.cc/product/pannier-racks/alloy-racks/alloy-rack/

https://off.road.cc/content/review/racks/tailfin-alloy-rack-review-9813

Nick Payne

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Re: [RBW] Re: Drops vs albatross. Easy to swap or do I need two bikes?

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Abe, I sent you a PM for the albastache bar, thanks!

On Thursday 2 May 2024 at 09:22:16 UTC-5 Pancake wrote:

> If you go the Albastashe route … I have Albastashe bars with Shimano 
> Tiagra levers and a Nitto tallux stem (with shim for 25.4 to 26) that 
> originally came on a Charles Gallop prototype direct from Riv. I’ve got 
> Silver bar end pods for both sides too (or a micro shifter as in the photos)
> $100 shipped for the bars and levers (or $85 for local pick up in Napa or 
> the SF Bay Area) unless someone tells me that’s more or less than the going 
> rate. Add $15 per pod or the microshift shifter. 
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
> Abe
>
> On May 1, 2024, at 2:58 PM, esoterica etc  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Michael,
>
> Due to an overseas move last year, I had to scale down to a single bike, 
> but I didn't want to have to choose between drops or upright bars because I 
> like them both equally. So I implemented a "quick swap" cockpit system that 
> I'd been playing around with in my head for a little while. It uses the 
> Ritchey Quick-Disconnect system for the brakes, and I relocated the shifter 
> to the downtube using an Origin8 adapter. Each cockpit has its own stem, 
> brake cables, housing, and a pair of Ritchey Q-D brake units. Garth 
> mentions having to readjust the seat every time a different cockpit is 
> used, but I haven't found the need to do that with my Selle Anatomica 
> saddle. It takes about 3 minutes to do the change- simply unscrew each Q-D 
> unit, line up the cable slots in the front cable hanger to extract the 
> cable, and remove the threaded stem. So far it's been a great system that 
> I'm very happy with; so much so that I'm in the process of putting together 
> a third cockpit with a Jones bar for some of the trickier singletrack 
> that's nearby.
>
> ~Mark
> Kailua, HI
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 7:39:36 AM UTC-10 Pancake wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_8915.jpeg]I have a bit of a crazy solution that I ran on my 
>> Sam and currently run on my Charles Gallup prototype: albatross bars, 
>> upside down with handlebar extensions at the midpoint of the bend in the 
>> bar. This gives me a drop similar to the Albastash, a sort of in the hoods 
>> position on the midset bar ends, and a couple other positions so I can 
>> stretch my hands out on longer rides. I’m about to use it on a century this 
>> weekend. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 11:23:08 PM UTC-7 Michael wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for a single bike for casual rides on bike 
>>> paths/paved/gravel/dirt roads with the occasional 100 mile ride thrown in. 
>>> Will suggest the Sam Hillborne, which I'm leaning towards. I assumed I 
>>> would build it with drops for the long rides but I recently fell in love 
>>> with albatross bars for upright lazy bike path rides. 
>>> Is there a way to quickly/easily swap handlebars or are two bikes 
>>> inevitable? 
>>> Would a Sam with drops and an appaloosa or atlantis w/ albatross be a 
>>> good combo or is that too much overlap? 
>>>
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