Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Awesome. Perfect fall outfit, and very reminiscent of our 90s days (like a polished grunge?) - bring it back! Also love the pants, a little bit of stretch is so great for riding. And your Sam is dressed in similar fashion and just looks like it goes with your ‘fit. Thanks for posting; I get no small amount of delight from these Bike Style posts!LOn Oct 3, 2023, at 10:46 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:I am not particularly stylish, but my cool but dry autumn day kit is extremely Vancouverite: - Du/er stretchy slim fit jeans- Patagonia flannel shirt (absolutely the best quality flannel shirt I've ever touched) - Vessi waterproof sneakers - Arcteryx thin merino gloves (not pictured) I neglected to wear a cap today, so style points lost there. My helmet is just an old MTB hand-me-down .. I need to refresh that. As it gets colder, I'll pull out the Randi Jo over-the-ear wool cap and wear the Ronnie leather gloves I recently purchased. On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 19:18:28 UTC-7 Max S wrote:It's like my foot changed in the last year or two... All the shoes in the sizes I used to be able to wear no longer fit, and that goes for bike shoes, formal shoes, casual shoes... Bought a pair of those VeloSambas – in BLUE SUEDE, and TWO sizes larger than I used to wear, which now somehow fits – and am about to try them out on the bike. - Max "if the shoe fits, wear it" in A2 On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 7:02:32 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Max - I love the shoes. If those didn’t work out, you’ll grace us with a photo on the bike of their replacements, I just know it.Luke - so good. Black on black with all the accessories (“cuz men gotta have their accessories”), looking fit and content on that Atlantis with the rainbow top tube. Love it. Goal: Find you a bike style photographer like Luke’s. On Oct 2, 2023, at 12:52 AM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:27:02 PM UTC-7 J wrote:That Coppi chest pocket shirt above was remade by Ostroy https://ostroy.com/products/mesh-resort-shirt-with-front-buttons-pocketOn Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:41:19 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:Love that you match your bike so well.  Great style for your bike and you!  You are a well-matched pair.On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:Okay...I'll risk the catcalls and cheap jokes - here's a glamour pic of my stylish riding kit. I say "function first & to each their own". On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold indeed! I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and wish I still had it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though along with the mullet haircut.DougOn Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:*where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionalityOn Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And its still in working order? I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 - here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already been there done that!Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that elevates you to an even higher status now that I do!Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the more aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles since I’m just getting into them.You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. Don’t leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.LOn Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  wrote:Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain having recently greased up the leg of my new so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them nearly every ride to work.For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg and fold on the wide l

Re: [RBW] Build in progress

[Ted W]

Pardon my ignorance but how are you running 26” wheels? I was unaware that
the Atlantis ever came I’m a size with that option. Is it spec’d for 650B
and running 26” or was there a time when the Atlantis was 26”?

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:34 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> Off to a great start! Where did you get those barrel adjusters and
> mounting bolts ?
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:07 PM Old And In The Weeds <
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>
>> 56cm Atlantis 2 with 26" wheels. Taking my time
>> on this one!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Build in progress

[Brian Turner]

Yes, the older “legacy” Atlantis sizes were 26” up to size 56cm. There was also a 650b 56cm for a short time. So, at one point there were three wheel sizes across the spectrum of Atlantises being offered.On Oct 4, 2023, at 7:01 AM, Ted W  wrote:Pardon my ignorance but how are you running 26” wheels? I was unaware that the Atlantis ever came I’m a size with that option. Is it spec’d for 650B and running 26” or was there a time when the Atlantis was 26”?On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:34 AM Eliot Balogh  wrote:Off to a great start! Where did you get those barrel adjusters and mounting bolts ?On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:07 PM Old And In The Weeds  wrote:56cm Atlantis 2 with 26" wheels. Taking my timeon this one!Nick



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[RBW] Re: Build in progress

[Old And In The Weeds]

Yo Eliot! Nick here from Facebook. dt adjusters are from Crust w springs
from McMaster Carr (can get part number if anyone is interested). The
mounting screws are sourced off Ebay.

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023, Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> Off to a great start! Where did you get those barrel adjusters and
> mounting bolts ?
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:07 PM Old And In The Weeds <
> oldandinthewe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 56cm Atlantis 2 with 26" wheels. Taking my time
>> on this one!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Build in progress

[Ted W]

If you’ve got a good source of “brass bits” on EBay, please share the link
to the seller. I’ve been looking around for some parts for a while.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 8:20 AM Old And In The Weeds <
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> Yo Eliot! Nick here from Facebook. dt adjusters are from Crust w springs
> from McMaster Carr (can get part number if anyone is interested). The
> mounting screws are sourced off Ebay.
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023, Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>
>> Off to a great start! Where did you get those barrel adjusters and
>> mounting bolts ?
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:07 PM Old And In The Weeds <
>> oldandinthewe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 56cm Atlantis 2 with 26" wheels. Taking my time
>>> on this one!
>>>
>>> Nick
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[RBW] Re: Build in progress

[Old And In The Weeds]

Hi Ted,

Maybe I can help. Tell me more about what you are in search of.

Thanks,

Nick

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023, Ted W  wrote:

> If you’ve got a good source of “brass bits” on EBay, please share the link
> to the seller. I’ve been looking around for some parts for a while.
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 8:20 AM Old And In The Weeds <
> oldandinthewe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yo Eliot! Nick here from Facebook. dt adjusters are from Crust w springs
>> from McMaster Carr (can get part number if anyone is interested). The
>> mounting screws are sourced off Ebay.
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023, Eliot Balogh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Off to a great start! Where did you get those barrel adjusters and
>>> mounting bolts ?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:07 PM Old And In The Weeds <
>>> oldandinthewe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 56cm Atlantis 2 with 26" wheels. Taking my time
 on this one!

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Tallux 90mm

[Justin Kennedy]

Hi Mike, I'll check when I get home, but I think I have a practically brand 
new one. It may be 100mm reach, though. Would that be a deal breaker?

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:37:28 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Anyone holding? Riv is out of stock on these.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike in Minneapolis
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Tallux 90mm

[Michael Ullmer]

Thanks for checking! I"m dialed in at 90mm, so it would be dealbreaker...

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Hi Mike, I'll check when I get home, but I think I have a practically 
> brand new one. It may be 100mm reach, though. Would that be a deal breaker?
>
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:37:28 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
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>> Anyone holding? Riv is out of stock on these.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mike in Minneapolis
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Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

[Piaw Na]

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 3:27:09 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:


Over the last few months, I've flatted three or four times on the RHes; 
clearly, the tread has worn thin. I was discussing the issue with a 
repairman at one of the local bike kitchens. He mentioned that GK Slicks 
hold up fine, but it takes a while for the rubber to cure - several months, 
or several hundred miles. Although that's in keeping with bike tire 
traditions ("inflate your new tubulars on a rim and age them over the 
winter" et al), it had never occurred to me that my shiny-new tires might 
take a period of aging to be fully ready for road use. I've reinstalled the 
GKs and put about 250 miles on them without incident. Maybe the intervening 
20 months has aged the rubber enough to stand up to small road hazards? 
Fingers crossed...


That seems unlikely to be true. As for your unluckiness with flats, I think 
that's just a run of bad luck (running over glass at night). I have not 
noticed that new tires puncture any less frequently than old tires. I 
regularly run tires until the rubber wears away and I can see the nylon 
cords below.  What I do notice is that some tires (e.g., the Continental 
tires) have so much tread on them that the sidewalls are more likely to die 
than the tread to wear out. But that may be that I ride more off pavement 
on my tires than most, giving more opportunities to have cuts on the tire.
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

[Nick A.]

I just installed "cool weather boots" on my Atlantis, a set of Soma 
Cazadero 700x50. I do love the handling with these tires compared to the 
Soma SV 700x42s that were just on. It feels even more planted and solid 
with the wider rubber, which is great for the time of year when cold and 
wet come into play.

Nick
Falls Church VA

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 3:27:09 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Over the last few months, I've flatted three or four times on the RHes; 
> clearly, the tread has worn thin. I was discussing the issue with a 
> repairman at one of the local bike kitchens. He mentioned that GK Slicks 
> hold up fine, but it takes a while for the rubber to cure - several months, 
> or several hundred miles. Although that's in keeping with bike tire 
> traditions ("inflate your new tubulars on a rim and age them over the 
> winter" et al), it had never occurred to me that my shiny-new tires might 
> take a period of aging to be fully ready for road use. I've reinstalled the 
> GKs and put about 250 miles on them without incident. Maybe the intervening 
> 20 months has aged the rubber enough to stand up to small road hazards? 
> Fingers crossed...
>
>
> That seems unlikely to be true. As for your unluckiness with flats, I 
> think that's just a run of bad luck (running over glass at night). I have 
> not noticed that new tires puncture any less frequently than old tires. I 
> regularly run tires until the rubber wears away and I can see the nylon 
> cords below.  What I do notice is that some tires (e.g., the Continental 
> tires) have so much tread on them that the sidewalls are more likely to die 
> than the tread to wear out. But that may be that I ride more off pavement 
> on my tires than most, giving more opportunities to have cuts on the tire.
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

[Eric Marth]

Hi Ted — I like Rene Herse tires but refrain from recommending them simply 
because they're so darn expensive and the benefits of the casing might not 
be appreciated by all. I would just hate for someone to think "Eric 
recommended these expensive tires and I don't like 'em!" While I do enjoy 
them and stick with them I hesitate to tell anyone "You should run these 
tires!" Looks like you have some RH experience. If I was running the Super 
Yummys I'd be tempted to try the Antelope Hill...

I run the Rene Herse Antelope Hill 700x55 with endurance casing on my 54cm 
Appaloosa. I've had one flat in the past two years of riding paved roads, 
gravel roads, dirt and trails. They're pretty fun! I enjoy riding them on 
long rides with lots of climbing and paved and unpaved surfaces. Feels 
great up on my Appaloosa, the Original Steel Couch. I also find all the 
volume to be pretty nice running errands and doing stuff around town. 

On my Hillborne I run the Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44. I've ridden 
standard casing and the extra-lights. Much prefer the feel and speed of the 
extra-lights though they are a bit more prone to punctures. Had plenty of 
flats with the standard casing as well. Almost always from road debris, 
glass specifically, though I have picked up thorns and wire. 

In terms of feel the RHs are great tires, especially in the EL and 
Endurance casings. I think the standard casing is just so-so. And again, 
the price is quite painful. I recently got a new set of Snoqualmie ELs for 
the Hillborne and it was $200 after shipping. 

My sample size is limited, I've only run Rene Herse tires on my Rivendells. 
On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:10:32 AM UTC-4 thetaper...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I just installed "cool weather boots" on my Atlantis, a set of Soma 
> Cazadero 700x50. I do love the handling with these tires compared to the 
> Soma SV 700x42s that were just on. It feels even more planted and solid 
> with the wider rubber, which is great for the time of year when cold and 
> wet come into play.
>
> Nick
> Falls Church VA
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 3:27:09 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Over the last few months, I've flatted three or four times on the RHes; 
>> clearly, the tread has worn thin. I was discussing the issue with a 
>> repairman at one of the local bike kitchens. He mentioned that GK Slicks 
>> hold up fine, but it takes a while for the rubber to cure - several months, 
>> or several hundred miles. Although that's in keeping with bike tire 
>> traditions ("inflate your new tubulars on a rim and age them over the 
>> winter" et al), it had never occurred to me that my shiny-new tires might 
>> take a period of aging to be fully ready for road use. I've reinstalled the 
>> GKs and put about 250 miles on them without incident. Maybe the intervening 
>> 20 months has aged the rubber enough to stand up to small road hazards? 
>> Fingers crossed...
>>
>>
>> That seems unlikely to be true. As for your unluckiness with flats, I 
>> think that's just a run of bad luck (running over glass at night). I have 
>> not noticed that new tires puncture any less frequently than old tires. I 
>> regularly run tires until the rubber wears away and I can see the nylon 
>> cords below.  What I do notice is that some tires (e.g., the Continental 
>> tires) have so much tread on them that the sidewalls are more likely to die 
>> than the tread to wear out. But that may be that I ride more off pavement 
>> on my tires than most, giving more opportunities to have cuts on the tire.
>>  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

[greenteadrinkers]

Eric - are you riding tubeless on your RH tires? If not, which tubes do you 
prefer?
- Scott

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 11:31:45 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Ted — I like Rene Herse tires but refrain from recommending them simply 
> because they're so darn expensive and the benefits of the casing might not 
> be appreciated by all. I would just hate for someone to think "Eric 
> recommended these expensive tires and I don't like 'em!" While I do enjoy 
> them and stick with them I hesitate to tell anyone "You should run these 
> tires!" Looks like you have some RH experience. If I was running the Super 
> Yummys I'd be tempted to try the Antelope Hill...
>
> I run the Rene Herse Antelope Hill 700x55 with endurance casing on my 54cm 
> Appaloosa. I've had one flat in the past two years of riding paved roads, 
> gravel roads, dirt and trails. They're pretty fun! I enjoy riding them on 
> long rides with lots of climbing and paved and unpaved surfaces. Feels 
> great up on my Appaloosa, the Original Steel Couch. I also find all the 
> volume to be pretty nice running errands and doing stuff around town. 
>
> On my Hillborne I run the Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44. I've ridden 
> standard casing and the extra-lights. Much prefer the feel and speed of the 
> extra-lights though they are a bit more prone to punctures. Had plenty of 
> flats with the standard casing as well. Almost always from road debris, 
> glass specifically, though I have picked up thorns and wire. 
>
> In terms of feel the RHs are great tires, especially in the EL and 
> Endurance casings. I think the standard casing is just so-so. And again, 
> the price is quite painful. I recently got a new set of Snoqualmie ELs for 
> the Hillborne and it was $200 after shipping. 
>
> My sample size is limited, I've only run Rene Herse tires on my 
> Rivendells. 
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:10:32 AM UTC-4 thetaper...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I just installed "cool weather boots" on my Atlantis, a set of Soma 
>> Cazadero 700x50. I do love the handling with these tires compared to the 
>> Soma SV 700x42s that were just on. It feels even more planted and solid 
>> with the wider rubber, which is great for the time of year when cold and 
>> wet come into play.
>>
>> Nick
>> Falls Church VA
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 3:27:09 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Over the last few months, I've flatted three or four times on the RHes; 
>>> clearly, the tread has worn thin. I was discussing the issue with a 
>>> repairman at one of the local bike kitchens. He mentioned that GK Slicks 
>>> hold up fine, but it takes a while for the rubber to cure - several months, 
>>> or several hundred miles. Although that's in keeping with bike tire 
>>> traditions ("inflate your new tubulars on a rim and age them over the 
>>> winter" et al), it had never occurred to me that my shiny-new tires might 
>>> take a period of aging to be fully ready for road use. I've reinstalled the 
>>> GKs and put about 250 miles on them without incident. Maybe the intervening 
>>> 20 months has aged the rubber enough to stand up to small road hazards? 
>>> Fingers crossed...
>>>
>>>
>>> That seems unlikely to be true. As for your unluckiness with flats, I 
>>> think that's just a run of bad luck (running over glass at night). I have 
>>> not noticed that new tires puncture any less frequently than old tires. I 
>>> regularly run tires until the rubber wears away and I can see the nylon 
>>> cords below.  What I do notice is that some tires (e.g., the Continental 
>>> tires) have so much tread on them that the sidewalls are more likely to die 
>>> than the tread to wear out. But that may be that I ride more off pavement 
>>> on my tires than most, giving more opportunities to have cuts on the tire.
>>>  
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Continental Mountain King 29x2.2" on my Clem H - I wanted something with 
widely spaced knobs for better bite and confidence on some of our local 
mixed condition trails to replace the stock Kendas with smoother inverted 
tread.  I just picked them up during an REI sale a couple years ago.  Many 
of the main sections of our local trails have been paved since I made the 
tire change, to make them generally more accessible,  and has made the 
knobs feel excessive/unnecessary/ineffecient at times... until the unpaved 
conditions worsen after any series of storms and then I appreciate the 
knobs all over again!  

I've thought something like the SimWorks Homage would be worth trying but 
haven't necessarily wanted to go as narrow as 700x43 on the Clem.  We have 
an older and cheap Kenda 26x1.95" on one of my spouses bikes that is 
similar to the Homage (slick center with tall and widely spaced knobs on 
the sides only) and they seem to work well in our local parks so been 
thinking I'd at least get some of the 26" Homage (as replacements for the 
Kendas and also for my own 90's rigid MTB that's back in use after a long 
hiatus.)

I recall Schwalbe Thunder Burts receiving a lot of praise for striking a 
good balance between on and off road usage but have never personally used 
them and not sure what variety of them are even still available (and I've 
personally been somewhat overwhelmed with the number of Schwalbe variations 
within a single tire model.) Although, I did like one of their 700x35 Sammy 
Slick folding bead models on my more road oriented bikes but after a 
sidewall cut I packed them away as emergency spares (reminds me I still 
meant to try and repair the cut.)  

I replaced those Schwalbes with 700x32 GravelKings that I found in some of 
the fun colors (Pink SK and purple SS.)  On the same wheels I have also 
used Challenge Chicane 700x33mm 'open tubulars' which are just folding bead 
clinchers but supposedly with same sidewall carcass as their tubulars, I 
think.  I know some have reported mounting issues with these or similar 
Challenge tires and I was fortunate to have no issue with my own wheels but 
could note that whatever cotton/poly or other thread blend they use on the 
sidewalls, these feel so different (in texture) than any other tire I've 
used.  Different to the point it was actually pleasant to install them or 
repair flats (like sliding your thumbs along soft, velvety cotton canvas 
vs. gummy rubber!)  I think Challenge ended up making wider gravel options 
with the same kind of sideknobs as the Chicane so those are also on my 
shortlist for eventual replacements to research but at around $100/each at 
retail the last I looked I haven't been able to bring myself to even 
consider them again.  I think I scored them for around $50/each at discount 
when first getting my hands on the Chicanes and have pretty much stuck to 
$50/tire as a personal limit.

On my current 'basket bike' I have Continental SpeedRide or Contact Speed 
with a labeled 700x42mm but that measures an actual 38mm and maxes out 
clearance on this old 27">700c road bike>townie conversion.

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:10:32 AM UTC-4 thetaper...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I just installed "cool weather boots" on my Atlantis, a set of Soma 
> Cazadero 700x50. I do love the handling with these tires compared to the 
> Soma SV 700x42s that were just on. It feels even more planted and solid 
> with the wider rubber, which is great for the time of year when cold and 
> wet come into play.
>
> Nick
> Falls Church VA
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 3:27:09 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Over the last few months, I've flatted three or four times on the RHes; 
>> clearly, the tread has worn thin. I was discussing the issue with a 
>> repairman at one of the local bike kitchens. He mentioned that GK Slicks 
>> hold up fine, but it takes a while for the rubber to cure - several months, 
>> or several hundred miles. Although that's in keeping with bike tire 
>> traditions ("inflate your new tubulars on a rim and age them over the 
>> winter" et al), it had never occurred to me that my shiny-new tires might 
>> take a period of aging to be fully ready for road use. I've reinstalled the 
>> GKs and put about 250 miles on them without incident. Maybe the intervening 
>> 20 months has aged the rubber enough to stand up to small road hazards? 
>> Fingers crossed...
>>
>>
>> That seems unlikely to be true. As for your unluckiness with flats, I 
>> think that's just a run of bad luck (running over glass at night). I have 
>> not noticed that new tires puncture any less frequently than old tires. I 
>> regularly run tires until the rubber wears away and I can see the nylon 
>> cords below.  What I do notice is that some tires (e.g., the Continental 
>> tires) have so much tread on them that the sidewalls are more likely to die 
>> than the tre

Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

[Ted W]

Thanks for your thoughts, Eric!

I'm definitely aware of the RH price pain, it's one of the main reasons I
hesitated to get the second set after the experience I had with the Naches
Pass on my Surly. I believe the total after shipping came close to that
$200 mark you mentioned for your Snoqualmie ELs. I'm interested in your
suggestion about the Antelope HIll tires, though... It's quite possible
that at the time I was riding the Naches Pass tires, I was still new to
tubeless setups and may have been running them at a higher pressure and
thus exposing them more readily to punctures. I have since begun running my
Super Yummys somewhere just above 25lbs (not a super accurate pump) and
have noticed that I've had fewer pinhole punctures, and less sealant
"weeping" out from between the treads than I did on the previous pair of
Super Yummys I had when I was running around 35lbs.

Also thought to mention, I do run these tubeless. It's one of my
concesionssions to modernity on these otherwise retro grouch-y bikes;
tubeless tires and clipless pedals. I've really come to love the self
healing ability of sealant filled tires and the luxury of being able to
repair larger holes with plugs, negating the need for a spare tube but
still permitting the addition of a tube in my pack for longer self
supported adventures. Clipless pedals are a carry over from my criterium
racing days. I've ridden them for so long that it feels like I've forgotten
something every time I've tried to swap to flats on any bike except a true
town cruiser.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 11:31 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Hi Ted — I like Rene Herse tires but refrain from recommending them simply
> because they're so darn expensive and the benefits of the casing might not
> be appreciated by all. I would just hate for someone to think "Eric
> recommended these expensive tires and I don't like 'em!" While I do enjoy
> them and stick with them I hesitate to tell anyone "You should run these
> tires!" Looks like you have some RH experience. If I was running the Super
> Yummys I'd be tempted to try the Antelope Hill...
>
> I run the Rene Herse Antelope Hill 700x55 with endurance casing on my 54cm
> Appaloosa. I've had one flat in the past two years of riding paved roads,
> gravel roads, dirt and trails. They're pretty fun! I enjoy riding them on
> long rides with lots of climbing and paved and unpaved surfaces. Feels
> great up on my Appaloosa, the Original Steel Couch. I also find all the
> volume to be pretty nice running errands and doing stuff around town.
>
> On my Hillborne I run the Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44. I've ridden
> standard casing and the extra-lights. Much prefer the feel and speed of the
> extra-lights though they are a bit more prone to punctures. Had plenty of
> flats with the standard casing as well. Almost always from road debris,
> glass specifically, though I have picked up thorns and wire.
>
> In terms of feel the RHs are great tires, especially in the EL and
> Endurance casings. I think the standard casing is just so-so. And again,
> the price is quite painful. I recently got a new set of Snoqualmie ELs for
> the Hillborne and it was $200 after shipping.
>
> My sample size is limited, I've only run Rene Herse tires on my
> Rivendells.
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:10:32 AM UTC-4 thetaper...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I just installed "cool weather boots" on my Atlantis, a set of Soma
>> Cazadero 700x50. I do love the handling with these tires compared to the
>> Soma SV 700x42s that were just on. It feels even more planted and solid
>> with the wider rubber, which is great for the time of year when cold and
>> wet come into play.
>>
>> Nick
>> Falls Church VA
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 3:27:09 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Over the last few months, I've flatted three or four times on the RHes;
>>> clearly, the tread has worn thin. I was discussing the issue with a
>>> repairman at one of the local bike kitchens. He mentioned that GK Slicks
>>> hold up fine, but it takes a while for the rubber to cure - several months,
>>> or several hundred miles. Although that's in keeping with bike tire
>>> traditions ("inflate your new tubulars on a rim and age them over the
>>> winter" et al), it had never occurred to me that my shiny-new tires might
>>> take a period of aging to be fully ready for road use. I've reinstalled the
>>> GKs and put about 250 miles on them without incident. Maybe the intervening
>>> 20 months has aged the rubber enough to stand up to small road hazards?
>>> Fingers crossed...
>>>
>>>
>>> That seems unlikely to be true. As for your unluckiness with flats, I
>>> think that's just a run of bad luck (running over glass at night). I have
>>> not noticed that new tires puncture any less frequently than old tires. I
>>> regularly run tires until the rubber wears away and I can see the nylon
>>> cords below.  Wha

[RBW] Re: FS: Blue Lug FW30 Stem, Thomson Seatpost, Nitto S65, Monarch Pedals

[Johnny Alien]

Thanks everyone! Everything has been sold with the exception of the FW30 
stem. If anyone is interested I will sell it for $70 shipped. Its a 
beautiful stem so if this one stays with me I will be fine with that too. :)

On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:48:07 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Feel free to hit me up with some best offers.
>
> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:48:35 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> So here is the stuff that is left. I am also adding some brand new IRD 
>> Cafam brake levers.
>>
>>
>>
>>- Blue Lug FW30 Stem - Dull Silver - 80mm extension. *$75*
>>
>>
>>- Thomson Masterpiece seatpost - Silver, straight, 26.8 X 240mm *$80*
>>- Nitto S65 - 26.8 X 250mm *$80*
>>
>>
>>- IRD short pull Cafam brake levers - silver - *$80*
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:29:13 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Wavies are gone too. Stem and seatpost are still available. Thanks 
>>> everyone.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:52:11 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Monarch pedals are sold.

 On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:11:41 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Here are some parts I have for sale that I had ready for my Roadini. I 
> can work out deals for anyone wanting the frame too. No photos because 
> its 
> rainy and dark but everything is as new with no miles or anything. I am 
> only selling one seatpost so whichever one goes first. All prices include 
> shipping.
>
>- Blue Lug FW30 Stem - Dull Silver - 80mm extension. *$75*
>- Monarch pedals - Titan (which is what Rivendell calls Champagne) 
>*$50*
>- Thomson Masterpiece seatpost - Silver, straight, 26.8 X 240mm 
>*$80*
>- Nitto S65 - 26.8 X 250mm *$80*
>- Wavie handlebars - Not new but in good shape. I need to find a 
>box. *$85*
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Blue Lug FW30 Stem, Thomson Seatpost, Nitto S65, Monarch Pedals

[Joe Bernard]

Did you sell the Roadini frame, too?

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 9:41:36 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Thanks everyone! Everything has been sold with the exception of the FW30 
> stem. If anyone is interested I will sell it for $70 shipped. Its a 
> beautiful stem so if this one stays with me I will be fine with that too. :)
>
> On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:48:07 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Feel free to hit me up with some best offers.
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:48:35 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> So here is the stuff that is left. I am also adding some brand new IRD 
>>> Cafam brake levers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- Blue Lug FW30 Stem - Dull Silver - 80mm extension. *$75*
>>>
>>>
>>>- Thomson Masterpiece seatpost - Silver, straight, 26.8 X 240mm *$80*
>>>- Nitto S65 - 26.8 X 250mm *$80*
>>>
>>>
>>>- IRD short pull Cafam brake levers - silver - *$80*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:29:13 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Wavies are gone too. Stem and seatpost are still available. Thanks 
 everyone.

 On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:52:11 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Monarch pedals are sold.
>
> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:11:41 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Here are some parts I have for sale that I had ready for my Roadini. 
>> I can work out deals for anyone wanting the frame too. No photos because 
>> its rainy and dark but everything is as new with no miles or anything. I 
>> am 
>> only selling one seatpost so whichever one goes first. All prices 
>> include 
>> shipping.
>>
>>- Blue Lug FW30 Stem - Dull Silver - 80mm extension. *$75*
>>- Monarch pedals - Titan (which is what Rivendell calls 
>>Champagne) *$50*
>>- Thomson Masterpiece seatpost - Silver, straight, 26.8 X 240mm 
>>*$80*
>>- Nitto S65 - 26.8 X 250mm *$80*
>>- Wavie handlebars - Not new but in good shape. I need to find a 
>>box. *$85*
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Double Kickstand

[Roberta]

Massload CL-KA56 Kickstand in silver with black "feet."  

Takeoff from another bike.  I don't need anything this hefty.

$20 + shipping.  

I just shipped similar size and weight from Philadelphia, PA to Illinois 
and it was only 8.80.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Double Kickstand

[Roberta]

Forgot the link:  https://www.cl-massload.com.tw/products_detail/82

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 1:41:33 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Massload CL-KA56 Kickstand in silver with black "feet."  
>
> Takeoff from another bike.  I don't need anything this hefty.
>
> $20 + shipping.  
>
> I just shipped similar size and weight from Philadelphia, PA to Illinois 
> and it was only 8.80.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Blue Lug FW30 Stem, Thomson Seatpost, Nitto S65, Monarch Pedals

[Johnny Alien]

I did not. I have it out there listed but it seems like it might not be 
totally needed since I offloaded a lot of other stuff. So its still for 
sale but I am not going to bump it.

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 1:06:04 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Did you sell the Roadini frame, too?
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 9:41:36 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone! Everything has been sold with the exception of the FW30 
>> stem. If anyone is interested I will sell it for $70 shipped. Its a 
>> beautiful stem so if this one stays with me I will be fine with that too. :)
>>
>> On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:48:07 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Feel free to hit me up with some best offers.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:48:35 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 So here is the stuff that is left. I am also adding some brand new IRD 
 Cafam brake levers.



- Blue Lug FW30 Stem - Dull Silver - 80mm extension. *$75*


- Thomson Masterpiece seatpost - Silver, straight, 26.8 X 240mm 
*$80*
- Nitto S65 - 26.8 X 250mm *$80*


- IRD short pull Cafam brake levers - silver - *$80*


 On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:29:13 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Wavies are gone too. Stem and seatpost are still available. Thanks 
> everyone.
>
> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:52:11 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Monarch pedals are sold.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:11:41 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here are some parts I have for sale that I had ready for my Roadini. 
>>> I can work out deals for anyone wanting the frame too. No photos 
>>> because 
>>> its rainy and dark but everything is as new with no miles or anything. 
>>> I am 
>>> only selling one seatpost so whichever one goes first. All prices 
>>> include 
>>> shipping.
>>>
>>>- Blue Lug FW30 Stem - Dull Silver - 80mm extension. *$75*
>>>- Monarch pedals - Titan (which is what Rivendell calls 
>>>Champagne) *$50*
>>>- Thomson Masterpiece seatpost - Silver, straight, 26.8 X 240mm 
>>>*$80*
>>>- Nitto S65 - 26.8 X 250mm *$80*
>>>- Wavie handlebars - Not new but in good shape. I need to find a 
>>>box. *$85*
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] WTB: Jim Stem: 4-Bolt / Face Plate / 10 cm

[greenteadrinkers]

Sold out at the source.

Thanks!
Scott

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Jim Stem: 4-Bolt / Face Plate / 10 cm

[Johnny Alien]

This is it, isn't it?

https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/ird-stem-heron-190mm-5935#attr=4161,2466

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 2:35:10 PM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Sold out at the source.
>
> Thanks!
> Scott
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Tallux 90mm

[Justin Kennedy]

Sorry, Mike, it is indeed a 100mm. 

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 9:59:06 AM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Thanks for checking! I"m dialed in at 90mm, so it would be dealbreaker...
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike, I'll check when I get home, but I think I have a practically 
>> brand new one. It may be 100mm reach, though. Would that be a deal breaker?
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:37:28 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone holding? Riv is out of stock on these.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Jim Stem: 4-Bolt / Face Plate / 10 cm

[greenteadrinkers]

Ah - indeed it is! thanks!

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 3:05:53 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> This is it, isn't it?
>
>
> https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/ird-stem-heron-190mm-5935#attr=4161,2466
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 2:35:10 PM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> Sold out at the source.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Scott
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

[David Pulsipher]

The best mittens, hands down - for warmth and cost are the Kinco Ski Mitt 
. They can be broken in so they aren't super 
dextrous, but as far as warmth goes, I've used them well into the negatives 
(-14 up to -20) and every other mitten breaks down at that point, 
especially cycling specific products.

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 12:29:51 PM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:

I've used an older version of these First Lite mittens 

 
for hunting, and they also had enough feel to operate my cameras. 
Obviously, they are expensive. My version was much cheaper! But when 
working for hours in the Dakotas and Minnesota, they were perfect and well 
worth it. Wool still works when damp, and I sometimes used just the outside 
with different liners.

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 12:43:27 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

The trouble with those, besides being bulky looking, is our big temperature 
differentials. I can often leave at 9 am at 18*F and come back at 50*F. I 
daresay that if I were riding long periods at sub 20* I'd think differently.

On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 9:54 AM Wesley  wrote:

Honestly, Bar Mitts brand neoprene pogies are so amazing that I would 
recommend just buying enough pairs that you can put them on each bike. Or 
swapping one pair between bikes as necessary (that can be complicated on 
the drop-bar version, depending on your cable routing). They are far beyond 
any gloves or mittens worn on the hands because they block the cold wind 
without being bulky or interfering with your handling the controls. I have 
fingers that are quite cold-sensitive, and I used Bar Mitts for seven years 
of commuting in Wisconsin winters. On the below-zero days I would only have 
to add a pair of minimalist knitted gloves (the kind they sell for 99 cents 
at the supermarket checkout.) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Ben Adrian]

I was in Portugal in May and got a pair of these capri-length 
shorts/knickers at Decathlon.
https://www.decathlon.fr/p/bermuda-de-randonnee-nh500-homme/_/R-p-332747

Now, I've always loved the "longer than shorts, shorter than pants" 
clothing. But sometimes people are less friendly to dudes who wear capris. 
Luckily, when I tried them on my wife thought that I looked super cute. So 
those short pants became the hit of the summer. They are by far my best 
short/pants for casual bike riding. They are my best non-lycra pant. I 
should have bought 4 of 'em. Next time I'm gonna stock up.

Ben

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 2:14:23 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Awesome. Perfect fall outfit, and very reminiscent of our 90s days (like a 
> polished grunge?) - bring it back! Also love the pants, a little bit of 
> stretch is so great for riding. And your Sam is dressed in similar fashion 
> and just looks like it goes with your ‘fit. Thanks for posting; I get no 
> small amount of delight from these Bike Style posts!
> L
>
> On Oct 3, 2023, at 10:46 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> I am not particularly stylish, but my cool but dry autumn day kit is 
> extremely Vancouverite: 
>
>
> - Du/er stretchy slim fit jeans
> - Patagonia flannel shirt (absolutely the best quality flannel shirt I've 
> ever touched) 
> - Vessi waterproof sneakers 
> - Arcteryx thin merino gloves (not pictured) 
>
> I neglected to wear a cap today, so style points lost there. My helmet is 
> just an old MTB hand-me-down .. I need to refresh that. 
>
> 
>
>
> As it gets colder, I'll pull out the Randi Jo over-the-ear wool cap and 
> wear the Ronnie leather gloves I recently purchased. 
>
> On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 19:18:28 UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>
>> It's like my foot changed in the last year or two... All the shoes in the 
>> sizes I used to be able to wear no longer fit, and that goes for bike 
>> shoes, formal shoes, casual shoes... Bought a pair of those VeloSambas – in 
>> BLUE SUEDE, and TWO sizes larger than I used to wear, which now somehow 
>> fits – and am about to try them out on the bike. 
>>
>> - Max "if the shoe fits, wear it" in A2 
>>
>> [image: best foot forward.jpg]
>>
>> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 7:02:32 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Max - I love the shoes. If those didn’t work out, you’ll grace us with a 
>>> photo on the bike of their replacements, I just know it.
>>>
>>> Luke - so good. Black on black with all the accessories (“cuz men gotta 
>>> have their accessories”), looking fit and content on that Atlantis with the 
>>> rainbow top tube. Love it. 
>>> Goal: Find you a bike style photographer like Luke’s. 
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2023, at 12:52 AM, Luke Hendrickson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:27:02 PM UTC-7 J wrote:
>>>
 That Coppi chest pocket shirt above was remade by Ostroy 
 https://ostroy.com/products/mesh-resort-shirt-with-front-buttons-pocket


 On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:41:19 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Love that you match your bike so well.  Great style for your bike and 
> you!  You are a well-matched pair.
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Okay...I'll risk the catcalls and cheap jokes - here's a glamour pic 
>> of my stylish riding kit. I say "function first & to each their own". 
>>
>> [image: IMG_1918.jpeg]
>>
>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold 
>>> indeed! I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and wish 
>>> I 
>>> still had it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though along 
>>> with the mullet haircut.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 *where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionality

 On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien 
 wrote:

> I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 
> 80's. Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make 
> a 
> comeback but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle 
> Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> 
>> Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a 
>> car. So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but 
>> wow, I 
>> can see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the 
>> Cheviot? And its still in working order? 
>>
>> I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class 
>> of ‘99 - here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had 
>> already bee

Re: [RBW] Another 26" Atlantis build

[Eric Marth]

Extremely good tones, Brian! 

Looks like a perfect fit. 

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:59:17 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow ! Nice work. I love the brown leather and gum walls. 
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:32 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>
>> Beautiful bike, Ryan. Good to go for decades!
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:40 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like these old 26"ers are getting a lot of love around here this 
>>> past week. I thought I'd share mine, even though I still have a bit of work 
>>> to get it to where I want it.
>>>
>>> I received this 54.5cm Toyo about two weeks ago, and have slowly been 
>>> adding and subtracting, with lots of bits mostly acquired from folks in 
>>> this community. The bike itself was in superb condition. I've taken it on a 
>>> couple of easy rides because the housing and cables are in dire need of 
>>> replacing, and I just haven't gotten around to that yet... but it rides 
>>> like a dream, and seems to fit me really well (I'm 5' 8", with a 83 PBH, 
>>> riding my saddle height at around 72cm).
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6529.jpeg]
>>>
>>> I added the RH 1.8" Naches Pass tires (measure at 41mm on these Mavic 
>>> X717 rims), installed some Berthoud fenders, and added that little Nitto 
>>> bag support on the rear. Next up is a front rack, some wider Noodles, and a 
>>> slightly longer stem.
>>>
>>> Thanks for lookin'.
>>> -Brian
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Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

[Eric Marth]

Ted & Scott: I do run tubes in my tires. The Antelopes at around 25lb and 
the Snoqualmies around 37lbs. The Appaloosa is like 37lbs unloaded, not 
sure about the Hillborne. I'm between 172 and 178 depending on the day. I 
run Giant brand tubes because that's what my LBS has in the correct size. I 
think I ran some of the lightweight Schwalbe tubes on my MB-2 with 
extra-light Rat Trap / Humptulips combo and never had a flat (tho I didn't 
ride that bike a ton). 

I have a very cheap Schwinn pump with an accurate pressure gauge. The 
readings match up to my Meiser low pressure gauge exactly. 

I've considered tubeless but haven't tried it. Appaloosa has Cliffhangers 
so no problems there. The Hillborne's on Atlas rims which aren't tubeless 
ready though I know it's been done before. 

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 12:21:50 PM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for your thoughts, Eric!
>
> I'm definitely aware of the RH price pain, it's one of the main reasons I 
> hesitated to get the second set after the experience I had with the Naches 
> Pass on my Surly. I believe the total after shipping came close to that 
> $200 mark you mentioned for your Snoqualmie ELs. I'm interested in your 
> suggestion about the Antelope HIll tires, though... It's quite possible 
> that at the time I was riding the Naches Pass tires, I was still new to 
> tubeless setups and may have been running them at a higher pressure and 
> thus exposing them more readily to punctures. I have since begun running my 
> Super Yummys somewhere just above 25lbs (not a super accurate pump) and 
> have noticed that I've had fewer pinhole punctures, and less sealant 
> "weeping" out from between the treads than I did on the previous pair of 
> Super Yummys I had when I was running around 35lbs.
>
> Also thought to mention, I do run these tubeless. It's one of my 
> concesionssions to modernity on these otherwise retro grouch-y bikes; 
> tubeless tires and clipless pedals. I've really come to love the self 
> healing ability of sealant filled tires and the luxury of being able to 
> repair larger holes with plugs, negating the need for a spare tube but 
> still permitting the addition of a tube in my pack for longer self 
> supported adventures. Clipless pedals are a carry over from my criterium 
> racing days. I've ridden them for so long that it feels like I've forgotten 
> something every time I've tried to swap to flats on any bike except a true 
> town cruiser.
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 11:31 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ted — I like Rene Herse tires but refrain from recommending them 
>> simply because they're so darn expensive and the benefits of the casing 
>> might not be appreciated by all. I would just hate for someone to think 
>> "Eric recommended these expensive tires and I don't like 'em!" While I do 
>> enjoy them and stick with them I hesitate to tell anyone "You should run 
>> these tires!" Looks like you have some RH experience. If I was running the 
>> Super Yummys I'd be tempted to try the Antelope Hill...
>>
>> I run the Rene Herse Antelope Hill 700x55 with endurance casing on my 
>> 54cm Appaloosa. I've had one flat in the past two years of riding paved 
>> roads, gravel roads, dirt and trails. They're pretty fun! I enjoy riding 
>> them on long rides with lots of climbing and paved and unpaved surfaces. 
>> Feels great up on my Appaloosa, the Original Steel Couch. I also find all 
>> the volume to be pretty nice running errands and doing stuff around town. 
>>
>> On my Hillborne I run the Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44. I've ridden 
>> standard casing and the extra-lights. Much prefer the feel and speed of the 
>> extra-lights though they are a bit more prone to punctures. Had plenty of 
>> flats with the standard casing as well. Almost always from road debris, 
>> glass specifically, though I have picked up thorns and wire. 
>>
>> In terms of feel the RHs are great tires, especially in the EL and 
>> Endurance casings. I think the standard casing is just so-so. And again, 
>> the price is quite painful. I recently got a new set of Snoqualmie ELs for 
>> the Hillborne and it was $200 after shipping. 
>>
>> My sample size is limited, I've only run Rene Herse tires on my 
>> Rivendells. 
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:10:32 AM UTC-4 thetaper...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just installed "cool weather boots" on my Atlantis, a set of Soma 
>>> Cazadero 700x50. I do love the handling with these tires compared to the 
>>> Soma SV 700x42s that were just on. It feels even more planted and solid 
>>> with the wider rubber, which is great for the time of year when cold and 
>>> wet come into play.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>> Falls Church VA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 3:27:09 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com 
 wrote:


 Over the last few months, I've flatted three or four times on the RHes; 
 clearly, the t

Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

[Matthew Williams]

Hi everyone,

I just got my second flat tire: a small chunk of glass pierced my brand-new 
rear Schwalbe G-One Overland. The tire had less than fifty miles on it.

In the past two months, I’ve had more flats with new tires than I had in the 
past three years with the Kenda tires that came stock from RBW.

What am I doing wrong? Do I need liners inside the tires, better/more durable 
tubes, different tires, or all three?

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[RBW] Re: FS: Double Kickstand

[Roberta]

This has been spoken for.  Thanks!

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Forgot the link:  https://www.cl-massload.com.tw/products_detail/82
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 1:41:33 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Massload CL-KA56 Kickstand in silver with black "feet."  
>>
>> Takeoff from another bike.  I don't need anything this hefty.
>>
>> $20 + shipping.  
>>
>> I just shipped similar size and weight from Philadelphia, PA to Illinois 
>> and it was only 8.80.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: "A Steamy Lug Affair" by Grant Petersen

[John Rinker]

That was a fun read. Thanks, Eric! I totally align with the idea that 
making functional things beautiful can make the experience of using them so 
much more pleasurable. 

Cheers, John

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-7 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi everyone — I was going through some of my many stacks of Riv ephemera 
> and found this short article written by Grant and published in the August, 
> 1999 issue of Bicycling magazine. 
>
> Enjoy! 
>

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Re: [RBW] Another 26" Atlantis build

[Ryan]

Very nice.i guess the tiny rack is for a saddle bag?

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:06:25 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Extremely good tones, Brian! 
>
> Looks like a perfect fit. 
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:59:17 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Wow ! Nice work. I love the brown leather and gum walls. 
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:32 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>>
>>> Beautiful bike, Ryan. Good to go for decades!
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:40 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>>>
 Looks like these old 26"ers are getting a lot of love around here this 
 past week. I thought I'd share mine, even though I still have a bit of 
 work 
 to get it to where I want it.

 I received this 54.5cm Toyo about two weeks ago, and have slowly been 
 adding and subtracting, with lots of bits mostly acquired from folks in 
 this community. The bike itself was in superb condition. I've taken it on 
 a 
 couple of easy rides because the housing and cables are in dire need of 
 replacing, and I just haven't gotten around to that yet... but it rides 
 like a dream, and seems to fit me really well (I'm 5' 8", with a 83 PBH, 
 riding my saddle height at around 72cm).

 [image: IMG_6529.jpeg]

 I added the RH 1.8" Naches Pass tires (measure at 41mm on these Mavic 
 X717 rims), installed some Berthoud fenders, and added that little Nitto 
 bag support on the rear. Next up is a front rack, some wider Noodles, and 
 a 
 slightly longer stem.

 Thanks for lookin'.
 -Brian

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Re: [RBW] Another 26" Atlantis build

[Brian Turner]

Ryan - yes, it's a saddlebag support. Nitto R20 canti; made for 26" wheeled 
frames. I've grown accustomed to primarily running transverse-style bags 
(front and back) instead of racks and panniers, so this was a cute little 
buddy that I felt this bike wouldn't be complete without.

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 5:59:07 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Very nice.i guess the tiny rack is for a saddle bag?
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:06:25 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Extremely good tones, Brian! 
>>
>> Looks like a perfect fit. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:59:17 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow ! Nice work. I love the brown leather and gum walls. 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:32 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>>>
 Beautiful bike, Ryan. Good to go for decades!

 Jock

 On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:40 PM Brian Turner  wrote:

> Looks like these old 26"ers are getting a lot of love around here this 
> past week. I thought I'd share mine, even though I still have a bit of 
> work 
> to get it to where I want it.
>
> I received this 54.5cm Toyo about two weeks ago, and have slowly been 
> adding and subtracting, with lots of bits mostly acquired from folks in 
> this community. The bike itself was in superb condition. I've taken it on 
> a 
> couple of easy rides because the housing and cables are in dire need of 
> replacing, and I just haven't gotten around to that yet... but it rides 
> like a dream, and seems to fit me really well (I'm 5' 8", with a 83 PBH, 
> riding my saddle height at around 72cm).
>
> [image: IMG_6529.jpeg]
>
> I added the RH 1.8" Naches Pass tires (measure at 41mm on these Mavic 
> X717 rims), installed some Berthoud fenders, and added that little Nitto 
> bag support on the rear. Next up is a front rack, some wider Noodles, and 
> a 
> slightly longer stem.
>
> Thanks for lookin'.
> -Brian
>
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Re: [RBW] Another 26" Atlantis build

[Brian Turner]

*sorry, that should be Nitto NR 20 mini rack... not R20

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 6:05:23 PM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:

> Ryan - yes, it's a saddlebag support. Nitto R20 canti; made for 26" 
> wheeled frames. I've grown accustomed to primarily running transverse-style 
> bags (front and back) instead of racks and panniers, so this was a cute 
> little buddy that I felt this bike wouldn't be complete without.
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 5:59:07 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Very nice.i guess the tiny rack is for a saddle bag?
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:06:25 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Extremely good tones, Brian! 
>>>
>>> Looks like a perfect fit. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:59:17 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wow ! Nice work. I love the brown leather and gum walls. 

 On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:32 PM John Dewey  wrote:

> Beautiful bike, Ryan. Good to go for decades!
>
> Jock
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:40 PM Brian Turner  
> wrote:
>
>> Looks like these old 26"ers are getting a lot of love around here 
>> this past week. I thought I'd share mine, even though I still have a bit 
>> of 
>> work to get it to where I want it.
>>
>> I received this 54.5cm Toyo about two weeks ago, and have slowly been 
>> adding and subtracting, with lots of bits mostly acquired from folks in 
>> this community. The bike itself was in superb condition. I've taken it 
>> on a 
>> couple of easy rides because the housing and cables are in dire need of 
>> replacing, and I just haven't gotten around to that yet... but it rides 
>> like a dream, and seems to fit me really well (I'm 5' 8", with a 83 PBH, 
>> riding my saddle height at around 72cm).
>>
>> [image: IMG_6529.jpeg]
>>
>> I added the RH 1.8" Naches Pass tires (measure at 41mm on these Mavic 
>> X717 rims), installed some Berthoud fenders, and added that little Nitto 
>> bag support on the rear. Next up is a front rack, some wider Noodles, 
>> and a 
>> slightly longer stem.
>>
>> Thanks for lookin'.
>> -Brian
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Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

[藍俊彪]

Nothing can prevent glass flats unless you run heavy duty Schwalbe
Marathons, and I've flatted with those as well. Just watch where you ride.
That's the best protection from flats.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 2:28 PM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I just got my second flat tire: a small chunk of glass pierced my
> brand-new rear Schwalbe G-One Overland. The tire had less than fifty miles
> on it.
>
> In the past two months, I’ve had more flats with new tires than I had in
> the past three years with the Kenda tires that came stock from RBW.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Do I need liners inside the tires, better/more
> durable tubes, different tires, or all three?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Piaw Na]

I like capris for winter riding in the Bay Area (too hot for the other 3 
seasons). I too, first found them in Europe, but earlier this year I 
discovered that the Germans call them 3/4 
pants: https://blog.piaw.net/2023/01/mens-carpis.html


On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 1:43:10 PM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was in Portugal in May and got a pair of these capri-length 
> shorts/knickers at Decathlon.
> https://www.decathlon.fr/p/bermuda-de-randonnee-nh500-homme/_/R-p-332747
>
> Now, I've always loved the "longer than shorts, shorter than pants" 
> clothing. But sometimes people are less friendly to dudes who wear capris. 
> Luckily, when I tried them on my wife thought that I looked super cute. So 
> those short pants became the hit of the summer. They are by far my best 
> short/pants for casual bike riding. They are my best non-lycra pant. I 
> should have bought 4 of 'em. Next time I'm gonna stock up.
>
> Ben
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 2:14:23 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Awesome. Perfect fall outfit, and very reminiscent of our 90s days (like 
>> a polished grunge?) - bring it back! Also love the pants, a little bit of 
>> stretch is so great for riding. And your Sam is dressed in similar fashion 
>> and just looks like it goes with your ‘fit. Thanks for posting; I get no 
>> small amount of delight from these Bike Style posts!
>> L
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2023, at 10:46 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> I am not particularly stylish, but my cool but dry autumn day kit is 
>> extremely Vancouverite: 
>>
>>
>> - Du/er stretchy slim fit jeans
>> - Patagonia flannel shirt (absolutely the best quality flannel shirt I've 
>> ever touched) 
>> - Vessi waterproof sneakers 
>> - Arcteryx thin merino gloves (not pictured) 
>>
>> I neglected to wear a cap today, so style points lost there. My helmet is 
>> just an old MTB hand-me-down .. I need to refresh that. 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> As it gets colder, I'll pull out the Randi Jo over-the-ear wool cap and 
>> wear the Ronnie leather gloves I recently purchased. 
>>
>> On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 19:18:28 UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> It's like my foot changed in the last year or two... All the shoes in 
>>> the sizes I used to be able to wear no longer fit, and that goes for bike 
>>> shoes, formal shoes, casual shoes... Bought a pair of those VeloSambas – in 
>>> BLUE SUEDE, and TWO sizes larger than I used to wear, which now somehow 
>>> fits – and am about to try them out on the bike. 
>>>
>>> - Max "if the shoe fits, wear it" in A2 
>>>
>>> [image: best foot forward.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 7:02:32 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Max - I love the shoes. If those didn’t work out, you’ll grace us with 
 a photo on the bike of their replacements, I just know it.

 Luke - so good. Black on black with all the accessories (“cuz men gotta 
 have their accessories”), looking fit and content on that Atlantis with 
 the 
 rainbow top tube. Love it. 
 Goal: Find you a bike style photographer like Luke’s. 

 On Oct 2, 2023, at 12:52 AM, Luke Hendrickson  
 wrote:

 

 


 On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:27:02 PM UTC-7 J wrote:

> That Coppi chest pocket shirt above was remade by Ostroy 
> https://ostroy.com/products/mesh-resort-shirt-with-front-buttons-pocket
>
>
> On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:41:19 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Love that you match your bike so well.  Great style for your bike and 
>> you!  You are a well-matched pair.
>>
>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay...I'll risk the catcalls and cheap jokes - here's a glamour pic 
>>> of my stylish riding kit. I say "function first & to each their own". 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1918.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold 
 indeed! I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and 
 wish I 
 still had it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though 
 along 
 with the mullet haircut.
 Doug

 On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien 
 wrote:

> *where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionality
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 
>> 80's. Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to 
>> make a 
>> comeback but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)
>>
>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle 
>> Ding Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> Gosh, Dani

Re: [RBW] What shoes does your Riv wear?

[DavidP]

Matthew - What makes you think you are doing anything wrong (aside from 
running over glass (which isn't always avoidable)? The Kendas (assuming you 
had the Kwick 9s, which are Big Ben-ish in design and weight) likely had 
much thicker tread and casing and that's part of the trade-off with more 
supple tires - they aren't as armored.

What pressures are you running on those 700x50s? As Piaw alludes, flats 
aren't always preventable, but it seems that running pressures as low as 
reasonable helps.

-Dave
On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 5:28:01 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I just got my second flat tire: a small chunk of glass pierced my 
> brand-new rear Schwalbe G-One Overland. The tire had less than fifty miles 
> on it.
>
> In the past two months, I’ve had more flats with new tires than I had in 
> the past three years with the Kenda tires that came stock from RBW.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Do I need liners inside the tires, better/more 
> durable tubes, different tires, or all three?
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Blue Lug FW30 Stem, Thomson Seatpost, Nitto S65, Monarch Pedals

[Johnny Alien]

And the stem is gone as well. Thanks everyone

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 2:01:31 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I did not. I have it out there listed but it seems like it might not be 
> totally needed since I offloaded a lot of other stuff. So its still for 
> sale but I am not going to bump it.
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 1:06:04 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Did you sell the Roadini frame, too?
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 9:41:36 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone! Everything has been sold with the exception of the FW30 
>>> stem. If anyone is interested I will sell it for $70 shipped. Its a 
>>> beautiful stem so if this one stays with me I will be fine with that too. :)
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:48:07 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Feel free to hit me up with some best offers.

 On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:48:35 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien 
 wrote:

> So here is the stuff that is left. I am also adding some brand new IRD 
> Cafam brake levers.
>
>
>
>- Blue Lug FW30 Stem - Dull Silver - 80mm extension. *$75*
>
>
>- Thomson Masterpiece seatpost - Silver, straight, 26.8 X 240mm 
>*$80*
>- Nitto S65 - 26.8 X 250mm *$80*
>
>
>- IRD short pull Cafam brake levers - silver - *$80*
>
>
> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:29:13 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Wavies are gone too. Stem and seatpost are still available. Thanks 
>> everyone.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:52:11 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Monarch pedals are sold.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 3:11:41 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here are some parts I have for sale that I had ready for my 
 Roadini. I can work out deals for anyone wanting the frame too. No 
 photos 
 because its rainy and dark but everything is as new with no miles or 
 anything. I am only selling one seatpost so whichever one goes first. 
 All 
 prices include shipping.

- Blue Lug FW30 Stem - Dull Silver - 80mm extension. *$75*
- Monarch pedals - Titan (which is what Rivendell calls 
Champagne) *$50*
- Thomson Masterpiece seatpost - Silver, straight, 26.8 X 240mm 
*$80*
- Nitto S65 - 26.8 X 250mm *$80*
- Wavie handlebars - Not new but in good shape. I need to find 
a box. *$85*



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Re: [RBW] Another 26" Atlantis build

[Stephen Durfee]

Looks fantastic so far!   What stem do you currently have?  I might have 
something to trade.

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 3:07:22 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> *sorry, that should be Nitto NR 20 mini rack... not R20
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 6:05:23 PM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:
>
>> Ryan - yes, it's a saddlebag support. Nitto R20 canti; made for 26" 
>> wheeled frames. I've grown accustomed to primarily running transverse-style 
>> bags (front and back) instead of racks and panniers, so this was a cute 
>> little buddy that I felt this bike wouldn't be complete without.
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 5:59:07 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice.i guess the tiny rack is for a saddle bag?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:06:25 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Extremely good tones, Brian! 

 Looks like a perfect fit. 

 On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:59:17 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Wow ! Nice work. I love the brown leather and gum walls. 
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:32 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>
>> Beautiful bike, Ryan. Good to go for decades!
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:40 PM Brian Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like these old 26"ers are getting a lot of love around here 
>>> this past week. I thought I'd share mine, even though I still have a 
>>> bit of 
>>> work to get it to where I want it.
>>>
>>> I received this 54.5cm Toyo about two weeks ago, and have slowly 
>>> been adding and subtracting, with lots of bits mostly acquired from 
>>> folks 
>>> in this community. The bike itself was in superb condition. I've taken 
>>> it 
>>> on a couple of easy rides because the housing and cables are in dire 
>>> need 
>>> of replacing, and I just haven't gotten around to that yet... but it 
>>> rides 
>>> like a dream, and seems to fit me really well (I'm 5' 8", with a 83 
>>> PBH, 
>>> riding my saddle height at around 72cm).
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6529.jpeg]
>>>
>>> I added the RH 1.8" Naches Pass tires (measure at 41mm on these 
>>> Mavic X717 rims), installed some Berthoud fenders, and added that 
>>> little 
>>> Nitto bag support on the rear. Next up is a front rack, some wider 
>>> Noodles, 
>>> and a slightly longer stem.
>>>
>>> Thanks for lookin'.
>>> -Brian
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Re: [RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[Stephen Durfee]

I was so grateful to find a '93 XO-3 frame in very good condition a few 
years back...I built it up as my everyday rider, with a 1x 8 drive, unfancy 
26" wheels (with Panaracer Paselas), and an Albastache bar. Basket in the 
front and a Carradice bag in the rear - it's perfect for the job. I commute 
most days, taking a one-hour ferry ride across the SF Bay, exposing the 
bike to relentless salt spray, but I do my best to keep it clean and I've 
grown to love itmeanwhile, I happened upon the most beautiful 
Waterford-built All-Rounder last spring and scooped it right up. This one 
is essentially a mirror image of the B'stone, but so much prettier. I've 
experimented with several different bar/stem set-ups, none of which are 
quite as good as the Albastache, and I will probably wind up with that 
eventually. That said, I'm hesitant to subject it to the whims of my daily 
seafaring adventure, especially when I have a bike that is already built 
for that purpose. So, for the time being, it only gets infrequent weekend 
attention. 

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:43:26 PM UTC-7 mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:

> I draw the line at winter riding where salt is used.
>
> Last year I used a converted 93 Rockhopper as my winter ride (IGH, coaster 
> brake, studded tires) and on "nice" days, i.e. dry roads, I used my Bruce 
> Gordon BLT (Taiwan model). Afterwards I cleaned and reassembled the rear 
> derailleur  -- from maybe a dozen trips on decent days, it was a rusty, 
> nasty mess, and so were a number of other parts. 
>
> From now on, only beater bikes in the salt months for me.
> The rest of the year, anything goes, that's why I own bikes. I think of 
> scratches as battle scars, to be worn proudly. 
> But salt is just wrong.
>
> cheers -mathias
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:22:32 AM UTC-4 daniell...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Joyce, thank you for your kind words and for sharing that story! It 
>> immediately reminded me of a quote from a Zen master that I've spent time 
>> reflecting on, but never around my bike until now:
>>
>> Die while you are alive, and be absolutely dead. Then do whatever you 
>> want: it's all good. 
>>
>> Your brother sounds like he's got this whole liberation thing down :)))
>>
>> Yours in RivSister solidarity,
>> Danielle
>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:55:52 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Danielle,
>>> Thanks for sharing your story.  It's such a pleasure to read a well 
>>> written tale and I shuddered at the description of your pristine Cheviot 
>>> losing the battle with concrete.  I'm looking forward to the images of 
>>> diaper swaddling!  
>>>
>>> Your story reminded me of some advice my older brother gave my younger 
>>> brother.  Both of them avid outdoorsy hunters/fishers/campers/boaters, they 
>>> drive pick-ups for their adventures.  Younger bro gets a brand new Ford and 
>>> doesn't want to drive a particular road because his new baby is going to 
>>> get scratched.  Older bro says, "Find a track that is overgrown with brush 
>>> and drive your truck through it.  It will get scratched up and you'll never 
>>> have to worry about it again."  So much for precious truck finishes!  (And 
>>> advice from older brothers...ha!)   
>>>
>>> Please keep posting and sharing your new bike decisions & adventures!
>>>
>>> RivSisters,
>>> --Joyce  (who has accepted the beausage on Clem, but is still cringing 
>>> at new scratches on Platy)
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 8:47:43 AM UTC-7 daniell...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks to all for the kind and thoughtful responses!

 @Jason I get what you're saying and had been thinking about the 
 Albastache for months. I do like the reach on it and the more assertive 
 set 
 up (why does aggressive feel wrong to me in the context of me biking??). 
 What ultimately pulled me away was the brake set up. I put inverse levers 
 on the Porteur and liked having my hand at the levers for my mostly city 
 riding through traffic. Now you've got me thinking about the Albatross 
 upside down :)

 @Jock I too hope he knows how lucky he is! At the time it happened I 
 didn't even mention it to him, knowing how much he'd beat himself up if he 
 knew what happened in a moment of carelessness. We had a riding date out 
 to 
 dinner last night and I mentioned over a beer that I shared this story 
 that 
 he of course didn't remember, having never been told. He asked me to show 
 him my post...I declined :p

 @Johnny Truly appreciate hearing this from someone who's tried both! 
 I'm also really drawn to the beauty of that bar and am dreaming up 
 elaborate bar tape combos a la Grant and Blue Lug. I'm still thinking I 
 might want to shave off a bit the swept back length if it wouldn't 
 compromise anything 

 @Kim Thank you, great advice and wise move, especially thinking of 
 anytime it's put on the rack to accompany us on vacation (l