Re: [RBW] Riv Rider Recipes

[ascpgh]

I am motivated by the offerings of particular restaurants for recipe 
inspiration. I ride by a number of them on the way home from work:

Apteka  
Soju 
Spak Bros 
Tasty Taquitos 
People's Indian 
BFG Cafe 
Spork 
Primanti Bros 

Fish Nor Fowl 
Joseph Tambellini 
Park Bruges 
Teppanyaki Kyoto 
Smiling Banana Leaf 
Food Glorious Food 

I also pass a building labelled Lackzoom Acidophilus 
 which 
supports the observations of several that sensitivities with cultural and 
genetic roots make direct dietary recommendations difficult. This person 
turned that into a category of business, still with HQ here two and a half 
miles from this building. 

Anyone else have dietary inspirations or objectifications from restaurants?

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 12:49:39 AM UTC-4 coco...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Pam! 
>
> That granola bar sounds awesome - do you bake them or just form them into 
> a "powerball" type snack? What kinds of bread do you make? Do you use a 
> breadmaker?
>
> Your comment about recipe compatibility is also a topic of the beginning 
> of this thread! Since so many people are aligning themselves with different 
> diets these days, I was curious how many in the group had read Grant's 
> book, *Eat Bacon, Don't Jog *and was curious how many people either 
> aligned themselves with his ideals or have since/have always aligned with a 
> different nutritional path. Since bike people are often health conscious 
> and environmentally conscious, I figured there was probably an interesting 
> spread across those of us who contribute to the group!
>
> I don't think it's particularly helpful to try to make recipes that 
> absolutely everyone can eat. It can be at a dinner party, but I'm more 
> interested in people's tried and true recipes to learn more about each 
> other and to be able to share a variety of ideas on health and enthusiasm 
> for food. If you're interested in cuisine, I think that it can be easy to 
> appreciate and respect someone else's love for cooking even if it is 
> following the restrictions (or lack thereof) of someone else's theories.
>
> I also stated in the beginning that this is not a space to sh** on other's 
> beliefs, but a space to compare and share! It seems like we have quite a 
> trove of foodies and it would be fun to compile the recipes into a 
> collection that we all have access to! :)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 4:32 PM Pam Bikes  wrote:
>
>> I'm afraid there are too many limitations and individual differences that 
>> make recipes difficult.  Some people are vegan, vegetarian, keto, diabetic, 
>> gluten free, soy free, shellfish allergies, etc.  
>>
>> I eat locally, seasonally, bake my own bread and make everything from 
>> scratch but I'm not a calorie counter and have no restrictions.  And 
>> everyone's local produce selection is different.  Not to mention the 
>> organic or not.  
>>
>> I do make a granola bar with just oats, peanut butter, honey then top 
>> w/chocolate chips, coconut, nuts etc.  that is high density in calories and 
>> easy for a road snack.  I just take snacks like nuts, crackers, etc in my 
>> bag in case I get hungry.
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:18:29 PM UTC-4 coco...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick - great links! Definitely some great ideas in there. I've also 
>>> been reading a lot about Traditional Chinese Medicine and some of the more 
>>> surface level ideas they have surrounding food and its properties in 
>>> relation to one's physical constitution. There's a lot I don't understand, 
>>> and a lot of traditional herbal knowledge that is still beyond me, but it's 
>>> been interesting to try to incorporate some of the food ideas into my diet 
>>> and see some of the results. Because different food and herbs and spices 
>>> interact with our internal balance then you have to mediate any imbalances 
>>> by incorporating more of certain things and less of others to try to get 
>>> back to a sort of equilibrium. 
>>>
>>> These ideas are how I got a lot of inspiration to remove gluten, sugars 
>>> and dairy, more so than Grant's book, although that was still pretty 
>>> informative.The health complaints I was having have resolved themselves 
>>> almost completely with the removal of a lot of these foods and it's been 
>>> really interesting to explore non-Western ideas of nutrition and health.
>>>
>>> Anyone do yoga or incorporate any of those ideas? 

Re: [RBW] Upcoming Riv Ride: Chicago

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

We are going to get good weather by the skin of our TEETH. The city hit a 
record high yesterday but a cold front is on the way to save our Riv Ride. 

Hope to see everyone there on Saturday! 
Leah

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 10:08:14 PM UTC-4 R. Alexis wrote:

> Wish it was a different weekend. Would give me an excuse to get back to 
> the Chi and bring the Rivendell Mountain with.  Look forward to seeing pics 
> and posts.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:49:36 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Just a reminder to mark your calendars for the Chicago Riv Ride on Aug 
>> 26th! We’ll start at Mack’s Bike and Goods, the Evanston Riv dealer, at 
>> 1030 and hit the Lakefront Trail from there. We’ll get lunch on the trail, 
>> admire each other’s bikes and make new friends. 
>>
>> See you then.
>> Leah and Marc
>>
>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 6:13:34 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m grateful for all the suggestions and may have questions for some of 
>>> you later. Marc is out of town and I’ll chat with him when he gets back and 
>>> we’ll finalize the plan…which may include winging it and deciding on the 
>>> route at the shop!
>>>
>>> At any rate, sounds like we are going to get to meet a lot of new people 
>>> and see their bikes and for that, I’m thrilled.
>>>
>>> Thanks for being so fun!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Aug 5, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Jason  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Hash, glad you think the route is good -- and that's a solid point 
>>> on Sheridan. My map was a bit of a quick sketch to show a concept of 
>>> potential destinations, but I just made a couple updates/improvements based 
>>> on a ride I took up to Baha'i and down the Lakefront Trail in June. 
>>> Connecting to the LFT from Evanston now shows much less of Sheridan and 
>>> much more residential neighborhood before hitting Ardmore and the lake. 
>>> That said, I'm certain there are other ways to improve the connections. 
>>> Whatever direction the Chicago Riv Ride takes, I think it would probably be 
>>> worth getting advice from the folks at Mack's.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-5 Hash wrote:
>>>
 Hey Jason, route looks great and I've wanted to see the Bahai house for 
 a minute. Not sure of any alternatives, but throwing it out there that 
 ride 
 down Sheridan is pretty brutal with cars and lack of bike lanes.

 On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:59:12 AM UTC-5 Jason wrote:

> Looks like great fun. I hope to attend. Thanks for organizing this, 
> Leah and Marc! 
>
> If we are considering other route options, as others are suggesting 
> perhaps the North Branch Tail could be combined with the Lake Front 
> Trail. 
> I sketched a quick route from Mack's south on the LFT to the North Avenue 
> Beach, then back north on the LFT until cutting west to Half Acre 
> Beer Co ., which has food, 
> beer, and an outdoor patio. From there, the ride could connect back to 
> Mack's via the North Branch Trail, but before stopping, see the nearby 
> Baháʼí 
> House of Worship 
> .
>  
> Here's a map of that concept 
> .
>
>
> Jason
> Oak Park, IL
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:04:52 AM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I don't disagree with anything anyone has said about Navy Pier or the 
>> LFT. Once you hit North Ave it's pretty busy and becomes a different 
>> kind 
>> of ride, you're either slowing or dodging. But the location of Navy Pier 
>> makes sense given the mileage goal. And it's more or less a food court, 
>> so 
>> from an organizer's perspective it's an easy place for a group to eat 
>> lunch. (Since I've had kids my views on Navy Pier have softened.) 
>> Depending 
>> on start time, pace, and number of riders, it might be worthwhile to 
>> consider holding off on lunch until after the midpoint. I don't 
>> typically 
>> ride  the LFT on weekends, at least not north of the museums, but I'd be 
>> happy to do it for a Riv ride. Looping around to the Channel Trail is a 
>> good idea, it's far less crowded. Also happy to do Bike the Drive with 
>> some 
>> fellow Riv riders - it's Sunday, September 3, though my son and I will 
>> be 
>> riding at a 9 year-old's pace.
>>
>> Cody
>> Chicago   
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:21 AM Marc Irwin  wrote:
>>
>>> We don't plan to go as far as McCormick Place.  We're open to 
>>> suggestions for lunch, I picked Navy Pier as a convenient turnaround 
>>> point 
>>> for a 35 mile ride from Mack's.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 8:37:55 AM U

[RBW] Re: Saddle Height

[Johnny Alien]

It may work for some but I have never been comfortable going by riv's 
sizing standards of going big.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:30:23 AM UTC-4 Matt wrote:

> I just pushed my saddle height to 73 and was pretty comfortable, so the 60 
> might be within reach according to Will. I've spent so long on recumbents 
> and Bromptons that I haven't really needed to know the optimum height. 
>
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:58:38 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Tall guy! 
>>
>> If you’re in NJ or eastern PA, Delaware area you’re welcome to try my 
>> bike. At that height, you might be able to do a 60. It is pretty big 
>> though. I’m 5’7”. Maybe my pbh is 82?  It’s one of those two numbers.  I’ll 
>> post pics and measurements when I can get to my bike.  
>>
>> Roberta. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 7:37:24 PM UTC-4 Matt wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Roberta. This experiential data is very useful. I'm 5'11 with 
>>> long-ish arms and torso, but a 60cm does look a little too large. I can 
>>> ride a saddle height of 73cm, but I'm just as happy at 72cm, so the 55cm 
>>> seems to be more versatile.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:56:21 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Welcome. 

 I use the heel to pedal method also for saddle height, and modify as 
 needed.

 My PBH is also 83 and I ride a 55 Platypus, which is perfect. Years ago 
 I test rode a 60 Cheviot and it was way too big. I think 55 is your size. 

 Roberta, Philadelphia

 On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:46:05 PM UTC-4 Matt wrote:

> Newb here, but long time Rivendell lurker. Chatted to Will today about 
> a Platypus and he mentioned saddle height. My BPH is 83cm (self measured 
> - 
> pretty sure it was to bone but maybe another cm?). Currently riding an 
> ebike, which feels like driving an automatic only worse, so I'm not sure 
> the saddle height is a good indication of what's ideal with a real 
> bicycle. 
> Any thoughts on measuring or extrapolating from PBH? 
>
> btw looking for 55/60cm Platypus, but may well wait for the next 
> stock. 
>
> Lovely group, this. Thanks for the edification.
>


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[RBW] Re: FS Frost River bags, Nitto lugged seat post, Bananna bags

[Frank Brose]

Seatpost has been sold.
Frank

On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:35:03 PM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Don't be afraid to make an offer. Worst that can happen is I say no. 
> Frank
>
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:41:04 PM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> I have the following for sale.
>> Frost River Taconite Trail trunk bag and Sawbill trail handle bar bag I'd 
>> like to sell together$165 net to me includes shipping. Like new condition. 
>> read about them here: 
>> https://frostriver.com/collections/cycling-bike-bags
>> Three Banana bags 2 Rivendell, 1 Duluth Trading 
>> $55 net to me for the Riv bags
>> $40 net to me for the Duluth trading. It's in the roughest shape. The Riv 
>> bags are in good shape.
>> Nitto Lugged seatpost 27.2 x 300 Light insertion marks not even visible 
>> when on the bike. They would easily be buffed out with aluminum polish. 
>> $125 net to me. Includes shipping. CONUS shipping only.
>> [image: P1020495.JPG]
>> [image: P1020496.JPG]
>> [image: P1020500.JPG]
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Riv Rider Recipes

[Garth]

I pretty much make a pot of creamy rice every other day. I use only medium 
grain rice as when cold it remains soft. I can't ell you proportions as 
it's all done by hand and feel. The fruits I use are usually raisins, ripe 
bananas(the riper the better), unsulphured dried apricots and 
pineapple(fresh of freshly diy frozen). The bananas can be fresh of frozen, 
I do my own. I have anywhere between 4-6 gallon ziplock bags in the deep 
freezer filled with very ripe, peeled, whole bananas they are so good 
sliced and melting in your mouth ! Same with grapes, in fall season when 
grapes are at their peak I buy tons of them if they are sweet and freeze 
them, washed and stemmed. I don't cook with those though, they are just for 
eating, melt in your mouth goodness. 

For the rice I usually bring some water and the raisins/apricots to a boil, 
turn off the heat and let them sit a half hour to get soft and infuse the 
water. Then I add the rice and some salt, cook about 15 minutes, it need 
not be exact. Then I throw in an egg or two and some whole milk. The 
consistency can vary, but it always tastes good. Sometimes if it's not 
thick enough I'll break up some corn tortillas and throw them in. Sometimes 
I throw in some sour cream, or evaporated milk if I have some. Or half and 
half. After it cools I fridge it as I prefer it cold. Room temp is okay at 
the time of making but I don't like it hot at all. 

You can do a similar thing with Masa flour, I rather like Maseca Tamal as 
the grind is coarser. Milk, water, mashed bananas, and egg and salt. Throw 
it all together in a pot and stir frequently or else it will stick to the 
bottom too much ! You can make this as thick or thin as you like. As thick 
as mashed potatoes of as thin as creamed peas. I really like this cold too. 
The masa flour flavor is much better than cornmeal, something I never touch 
anymore after discovering the versatility of masa flour. It also makes 
great on the top dumplings. Masa, milk, egg, baking power and salt. Too a 
thick consistency to spoon and drop in whatever you're dropping it in. Once 
brought to a boil, turn off the heat and dumplings will cook as long as you 
don't open the lid for like 20 minutes. 

Summer riding though I really like fruit after a ride. Of later I make some 
frosty blends of banana(fresh or frozen), cantaloupe, mango and frozen 
blueberries, plus a little cold water. Oh that is so good. Throw it all 
in the Vitamix blender and use the variable speed on low-ish till blended 
to brain freeze consistency. (thick) Consume very slowly, savor every 
mouthful, it keeps the brain freeze at bay   

I never read GP's book as I'm not much of meat eater. Once a month or so 
I'll have some beef liver diy stew, with onions, peppers, garlic and sour 
cream, served with rice or noodles. I bought a bag of Hormel genuine bacon 
bits a couple weeks ago. I've not had bacon in like 20 years or more. It's 
okay as a seasoning , a tablespoon in a recipe and such. 

I'm not for restricting anything. Eat what resonates with you. Be the 
Happiness, Love You Inherently Are.  Nothing else matters, Nothing else to 
Life For. Life is Celebration ! 

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rider Recipes

[Ted Durant]

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 9:41:11 AM UTC-5 coco...@gmail.com wrote:

2) I'd love to compile a collection of favorite recipes! What do you make 
for yourselves/your families? What's your favorite sandwich you bring on 
your bike rides? Any bike tour go-to's?


 choco-date-hazel-coco bombs:
Dates
Hazelnuts (roasted, salted if you like)
Dark chocolate morsels
Coconut flour

Use equal measures (by weight) of chocolate, dates, and hazelnuts. In a 
food processor, start with the dates (be sure there are no pits!). When 
they're well chopped, add the hazelnuts and blend until you have a fairly 
moist ball. You want to release a bit of the oil from the hazelnuts, but 
not completely into a butter. Then add the chocolate and run it just long 
enough to blend in. It will be getting pretty warm at this point and you 
don't want to overheat the chocolate. Scoop out and form balls, whatever 
size you like, but I aim for something a bit smaller than a golf ball. Roll 
the ball in coconut flour  and set aside to cool and harden. 

They stay remarkably solid even in a warm handlebar bag, but if you put 
them in a pocket you'll probably have a mess.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rider Recipes

[Coco Menk]

Those sound delicious Ted!! I'll have to give those a try.

Garth - your creamy fruit rice sounds amazing too!! I'm curious about
incorporating the dried apricots; I've never tried cooking with them, but I
imagine they are a little less intense on the GI system if you get them
into some boiling water. When you re-add the rice to the cooled
raisin/apricot water, what heat level do you use for the 15 min? Love the
sound of the banana+masa flour mush - is the flour easy to source? Also
would love details on your beef liver stew.

I love how jazzy people are getting with their recipes! That's what food is
all about, IMHO :)



On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 8:28 AM Ted Durant  wrote:

> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 9:41:11 AM UTC-5 coco...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 2) I'd love to compile a collection of favorite recipes! What do you make
> for yourselves/your families? What's your favorite sandwich you bring on
> your bike rides? Any bike tour go-to's?
>
>
>  choco-date-hazel-coco bombs:
> Dates
> Hazelnuts (roasted, salted if you like)
> Dark chocolate morsels
> Coconut flour
>
> Use equal measures (by weight) of chocolate, dates, and hazelnuts. In a
> food processor, start with the dates (be sure there are no pits!). When
> they're well chopped, add the hazelnuts and blend until you have a fairly
> moist ball. You want to release a bit of the oil from the hazelnuts, but
> not completely into a butter. Then add the chocolate and run it just long
> enough to blend in. It will be getting pretty warm at this point and you
> don't want to overheat the chocolate. Scoop out and form balls, whatever
> size you like, but I aim for something a bit smaller than a golf ball. Roll
> the ball in coconut flour  and set aside to cool and harden.
>
> They stay remarkably solid even in a warm handlebar bag, but if you put
> them in a pocket you'll probably have a mess.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[Jason Zakaras]

Bump: Price drop to 1750 Located in Bentonville AR buyer to work with local 
bike shop for packing and shipping I can help with the coordination, but 
there are plenty to work with.  
I've gone back and forth on this but I don't ride it now that I'm relocated 
and while I love the bike, don't like the idea of just looking at it on the 
wall or in the garage, my favorite place to see my bike is between my legs.

https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/173086


On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 11:38:36 AM UTC-5 Jason Zakaras wrote:

> Back on the market is my beautiful Quickbeam 
>
> asking 1800 plus shipping/packaging/paypal fees
>
> all the details on crust trader:
> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/166629
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[Bill Lindsay]

Your OP claimed that all the details were on the Crust site.  That listing 
has been deleted, and the one that is now "active" doesn't have an explicit 
build list.  It looks like there's a dynamo hub, but in some of the photos 
there's a headlamp, and others not.  Your buyer may want an enumerated list 
of what they are actually buying.  An entrepreneurial type may see that 
list as a project to sell down parts and end up with a super cheap QB 
frameset!  

Also, what's the story with the fork braze ons.  Were those factory?  Or 
did you have that changed?  I'm not used to seeing frenchie mid fork tabs 
like that on a Rivendell.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Paul Clifton]

This apparently is in near me (northwest Arkansas) if anyone wants a proxy. 
Listed on Craigslist now: 
https://fayar.craigslist.org/bik/d/bentonville-rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/7657837282.html

Paul in AR


On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:52:45 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> PSA, 58 "Crusty" Quickbeam delux (paul, dynamo, etc.) not mine, nor my 
> size:
> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/173086
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[JohnS]

Hello Bill,

FWIW, my orange QB has the same "frenchie mid fork tabs". The work fine and 
they seem to be original to the bike.

JohnS


On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:46:22 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Your OP claimed that all the details were on the Crust site.  That listing 
> has been deleted, and the one that is now "active" doesn't have an explicit 
> build list.  It looks like there's a dynamo hub, but in some of the photos 
> there's a headlamp, and others not.  Your buyer may want an enumerated list 
> of what they are actually buying.  An entrepreneurial type may see that 
> list as a project to sell down parts and end up with a super cheap QB 
> frameset!  
>
> Also, what's the story with the fork braze ons.  Were those factory?  Or 
> did you have that changed?  I'm not used to seeing frenchie mid fork tabs 
> like that on a Rivendell.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[Bill Lindsay]

That's dynamite.  Frenchie tabs are super trick.  The modern barrel ones 
are probably more versatile and stronger, but the Frenchie tabs look so 
minimalist and cool.  

BL in EC

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 12:42:53 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:

> Hello Bill,
>
> FWIW, my orange QB has the same "frenchie mid fork tabs". The work fine 
> and they seem to be original to the bike.
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:46:22 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Your OP claimed that all the details were on the Crust site.  That 
>> listing has been deleted, and the one that is now "active" doesn't have an 
>> explicit build list.  It looks like there's a dynamo hub, but in some of 
>> the photos there's a headlamp, and others not.  Your buyer may want an 
>> enumerated list of what they are actually buying.  An entrepreneurial type 
>> may see that list as a project to sell down parts and end up with a super 
>> cheap QB frameset!  
>>
>> Also, what's the story with the fork braze ons.  Were those factory?  Or 
>> did you have that changed?  I'm not used to seeing frenchie mid fork tabs 
>> like that on a Rivendell.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[Jason Zakaras]

thanks for the catch Billiam, its been on and off so I forgot to check the 
sweet deets, for your consideration:
A quick beam is a single speed bike that you might want to consider making 
into a multiple geared single speed with a dos freewheel and double up 
front, sorry no hangers like these new fangled "single speed" wanna be 
bikes.
made in Japan.

polished everything…

paul rear flip/flop hub with surly free and fixed 18t on both sides, front 
hub is polished shutter precision and the rims are polished velocity quill 
700c with ultradynamico rubber rose/cava combo

trp brake levers- polished silver w/ gum hoods , brooks tape/saddle b17 in 
honey, 600 towel rack, some nice brass spacers and  brass bell.

paul tall and handsome seatpost again polished

paul neo retro brakes and touring canti in rear for that extra nice look 
and feel

rene herse crank 171 48t chainring

edulux lamp that is hung with a nitro hanger, it was added later to the fork


the pedals, bag, and bottle holders do not convey with the sale.


xo 





On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 12:46:22 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Your OP claimed that all the details were on the Crust site.  That listing 
> has been deleted, and the one that is now "active" doesn't have an explicit 
> build list.  It looks like there's a dynamo hub, but in some of the photos 
> there's a headlamp, and others not.  Your buyer may want an enumerated list 
> of what they are actually buying.  An entrepreneurial type may see that 
> list as a project to sell down parts and end up with a super cheap QB 
> frameset!  
>
> Also, what's the story with the fork braze ons.  Were those factory?  Or 
> did you have that changed?  I'm not used to seeing frenchie mid fork tabs 
> like that on a Rivendell.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[Patrick Moore]

All this for $1750?? The "Quickbeam financial index" must truly have
bottomed out. That's a nice build. I recall when a nicely built QB would
command much more.

Question: What are those grips or padding at the ends of the drops?

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 2:09 PM Jason Zakaras 
wrote:

> thanks for the catch Billiam, its been on and off so I forgot to check the
> sweet deets, for your consideration:
> A quick beam is a single speed bike that you might want to consider making
> into a multiple geared single speed with a dos freewheel and double up
> front, sorry no hangers like these new fangled "single speed" wanna be
> bikes.
> made in Japan.
>
> polished everything…
>
> paul rear flip/flop hub with surly free and fixed 18t on both sides, front
> hub is polished shutter precision and the rims are polished velocity quill
> 700c with ultradynamico rubber rose/cava combo
>
> trp brake levers- polished silver w/ gum hoods , brooks tape/saddle b17 in
> honey, 600 towel rack, some nice brass spacers and  brass bell.
>
> paul tall and handsome seatpost again polished
>
> paul neo retro brakes and touring canti in rear for that extra nice look
> and feel
>
> rene herse crank 171 48t chainring
>
> edulux lamp that is hung with a nitro hanger, it was added later to the
> fork
>
>
> the pedals, bag, and bottle holders do not convey with the sale.
>
>
> xo
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 12:46:22 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Your OP claimed that all the details were on the Crust site.  That
>> listing has been deleted, and the one that is now "active" doesn't have an
>> explicit build list.  It looks like there's a dynamo hub, but in some of
>> the photos there's a headlamp, and others not.  Your buyer may want an
>> enumerated list of what they are actually buying.  An entrepreneurial type
>> may see that list as a project to sell down parts and end up with a super
>> cheap QB frameset!
>>
>> Also, what's the story with the fork braze ons.  Were those factory?  Or
>> did you have that changed?  I'm not used to seeing frenchie mid fork tabs
>> like that on a Rivendell.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[Jason Zakaras]

Patrick, they are wolf tooth's silicone grips, I believe the Karv maybe 
fatpaw.  I recently switched all my mtbs over to them and they are lovely. 
 Its a nice touch when you're feeling fatigued and can drop down into a 
cozy bed for yer hands.  I highly recommend them.

And yep, the bike market has gone back to normal, bikes don't appreciate in 
value (gasp) and new bikes won't sell out immediately.  I for one am 
thrilled about this, its kinda adds to the "not going to ride my bike and 
get it dirty" vibe, in my opinion.

This bike has been rode well but its in great shape, I commute to work from 
it and work from home so mostly casual rides around the rural parts.  The 
new landscape I'm in begs for different gearing and my new Baby begs for a 
bike I can pull her in with the burly trailer so  that's part of the 
selling rational.  Also, I have 5 kids and 4 ride plus my wife's couple o 
bikes and mine, the gearage could use some weight loss.



On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 4:04:45 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> All this for $1750?? The "Quickbeam financial index" must truly have 
> bottomed out. That's a nice build. I recall when a nicely built QB would 
> command much more.
>
> Question: What are those grips or padding at the ends of the drops?
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 2:09 PM Jason Zakaras  wrote:
>
>> thanks for the catch Billiam, its been on and off so I forgot to check 
>> the sweet deets, for your consideration:
>> A quick beam is a single speed bike that you might want to consider 
>> making into a multiple geared single speed with a dos freewheel and double 
>> up front, sorry no hangers like these new fangled "single speed" wanna be 
>> bikes.
>> made in Japan.
>>
>> polished everything…
>>
>> paul rear flip/flop hub with surly free and fixed 18t on both sides, 
>> front hub is polished shutter precision and the rims are polished velocity 
>> quill 700c with ultradynamico rubber rose/cava combo
>>
>> trp brake levers- polished silver w/ gum hoods , brooks tape/saddle b17 
>> in honey, 600 towel rack, some nice brass spacers and  brass bell.
>>
>> paul tall and handsome seatpost again polished
>>
>> paul neo retro brakes and touring canti in rear for that extra nice look 
>> and feel
>>
>> rene herse crank 171 48t chainring
>>
>> edulux lamp that is hung with a nitro hanger, it was added later to the 
>> fork
>>
>>
>> the pedals, bag, and bottle holders do not convey with the sale.
>>
>>
>> xo 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 12:46:22 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Your OP claimed that all the details were on the Crust site.  That 
>>> listing has been deleted, and the one that is now "active" doesn't have an 
>>> explicit build list.  It looks like there's a dynamo hub, but in some of 
>>> the photos there's a headlamp, and others not.  Your buyer may want an 
>>> enumerated list of what they are actually buying.  An entrepreneurial type 
>>> may see that list as a project to sell down parts and end up with a super 
>>> cheap QB frameset!  
>>>
>>> Also, what's the story with the fork braze ons.  Were those factory?  Or 
>>> did you have that changed?  I'm not used to seeing frenchie mid fork tabs 
>>> like that on a Rivendell.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Jason. I looked them up on the Wolf Tooth site and as far as I can
tell they are made only for mountain bike bars; are yours a road bike bar
model, or did you just force them on to the bigger bar?

About that Quickbeam: I know from experience that you can list and relist a
very nice bike and come away with far less than than expected; then a month
later someone will post a similar bike and get a much higher price. This
happened when I sold a very nice Sam Hillborne some years ago. FWIW.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 3:36 PM Jason Zakaras 
wrote:

> Patrick, they are wolf tooth's silicone grips, I believe the Karv maybe
> fatpaw.  I recently switched all my mtbs over to them and they are lovely.
> Its a nice touch when you're feeling fatigued and can drop down into a cozy
> bed for yer hands.  I highly recommend them.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Patrick Moore]

Just reposted on the list by our mutual friend Jason for $1750, too low IMO.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 1:30 PM Paul Clifton  wrote:

> This apparently is in near me (northwest Arkansas) if anyone wants a
> proxy. Listed on Craigslist now:
> https://fayar.craigslist.org/bik/d/bentonville-rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/7657837282.html
>
> Paul in AR
>
>
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:52:45 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>
>> PSA, 58 "Crusty" Quickbeam delux (paul, dynamo, etc.) not mine, nor my
>> size:
>> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/173086
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rider Recipes

[Garth]

Sure Coco !  Cooking the raisins and apricots makes them all soft and easy 
to digest. The raisins balloon up and the apricots, I slice them in hand, 
first in half then another three slices. If you're unfamiliar with the 
unsulphured ones they are brown, rather than the bright orange you find 
with sulphured ones, which just taste awful and the texture is altered to 
gummy bear status. How anyone can eat those is beyond me !  You can find 
the natural brown ones in bulk @ natural food stores if you have any around 
locally.  I don't anymore so I get them online 
https://www.amazon.com/Turkish-Apricots-Unsulphured-Certified-Resealable/dp/B07KGL3MVW.
 
The raisins are Sun Maid regular ol' raisins. 

For a pot I'd guess it's somewhere around a heaping 1/4c to 1/3c of each 
fruit. Sometimes it just raisins and a very large banana or 2 small ones. 
Some vanilla extract goes good with that. 

I made some today, so I'll attempt to quantify what I do on the fly. I 
can't tell you how much water I start with the fruit, but it's enough that 
when I add about 3 heaping 1/4 cups of medium grain rice cooked for 15 
minutes on *low heat(soft rolling boil inside),* with enough liquid that 
it's still jiggle-able in the pot when it's done. You want as this is not a 
dry flaky rice dish, this is creamy, like a Risotto if you're familiar with 
Italian cooking. I could use a a 3/4 cup, but that messes me up, so I stick 
with multiples of 1/4 cups. A heaping 3/4c won't be as much as 3 heaping 
1/4c's !  Some salt, not too much as you can add some later. Sometimes

I like to let that sit for like 15 minutes. Then I add an egg, some whole 
milk, cream, half and half, evaporated milk,  whatever you have on hand. A 
bit of sour cream adds a nice dimension too. Bring that to a soft boil, it 
should be be easy to stir at this point. It will thicken when it cools. 
Turn off the heat and let it sit as long as you like. It can hold a lot of 
heat for along time. When it cools enough I put it in a container and 
fridge it. If it's too thick you can add a little milk to however you want 
at that time, or wait and when it's cold pour some milk over it. It's yummy 
any way. This isn't about a certain consistency to the rice, it's about the 
complimentary flavors, and that's what cooking is all about. I don't own a 
cookbook and find it very hard to follow any recipe if I try, as inevitably 
it contains something either I don't have, can't afford, or don't like the 
flavor of.

Masa mush, or dumplings. The dumplings came about by reading of someone who 
made pancakes with it, and if it rises for pancakes it'll rise for 
dumplings or biscuits, given it has some baking powder. I add an egg too, 
makes it fluffier. The mush simply came about by inspiration. I ate 
cornmeal mush sometimes as a kid, but found it bland, as cornmeal is bland. 
Masa flour takes the same corn kernel and treats it with lime, the mineral, 
and that's what give corn tortillas it's wonderful  flavor and makes it 
easier to digest. It's akin to spouting a grain. So I bought a bag of Masa 
at the grocery store(Kroger, Wal-Mart is what I have) and just 
experimented. It's really hard to ruin the flavor, and the consistency you 
vary with the amount of liquid you use. Milk or water or broth or whatever 
! It can be sweet or savory. I sweeten most things with fruit, sometimes 
honey or dark molasses if it's suits the flavors, and once in a while even 
some white sugar. I don't use that very often as it has no flavor to it, 
it's just sweet, so it's only a pinch. I grew up with my Mom and her Mom 
adding a pinch of sugar to most recipes, even savory. I think it gets a bad 
rap because the way it's abused or in given in excess. That's the beauty of 
cooking yourself, you can do anything you like with a recipe. They're like 
rough guides to flavor profiles, complimentaries, not edicts ! 

The beef liver stew is simplicity at it's fines. I like liver, but I don't 
fry things. So rather than give it up, I said hey who says it needs to be 
fried ? That'd be nobody. Have people made a stew with it ? I don't know, 
but I was going to find out. So my local Wal Mart sells fresh liver, I get 
about a pound. It's irregular shapes and all juicy bloody inside, and I'm 
not into cutting bloody meat anymore(I used to work in restaurants long 
ago). So I just cut the bag open and pour it, blood and all, in a 4 quart 
heavy pot. Throw it some chopped peppers, onions, garlic and mushrooms or 
carrots (whatever you like), and a touch of water. Use a medium high heat 
at first, until it starts to sizzle. You don't want to burn it. Then turn 
it down low to a low heat and let it cook for 15-20 minutes. Need not be 
exact. It's mostly to soften the vegetables and let the flavors blend. 
Maybe a touch of salt to taste and some black pepper. Throw in dollop or 
two of sour cream if you like the tanginess, but it's great as-is. I 
usually eat it with medium grain rice, I like sticky starchy rice. A

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[dylan green]

For what it's worth - this is my old frame and it's SUPER clean. Jason did 
a great job in updating it since I sold it to him. 


On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 2:42:48 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Jason. I looked them up on the Wolf Tooth site and as far as I can 
> tell they are made only for mountain bike bars; are yours a road bike bar 
> model, or did you just force them on to the bigger bar?
>
> About that Quickbeam: I know from experience that you can list and relist 
> a very nice bike and come away with far less than than expected; then a 
> month later someone will post a similar bike and get a much higher price. 
> This happened when I sold a very nice Sam Hillborne some years ago. FWIW.
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 3:36 PM Jason Zakaras  wrote:
>
>> Patrick, they are wolf tooth's silicone grips, I believe the Karv maybe 
>> fatpaw.  I recently switched all my mtbs over to them and they are lovely.  
>> Its a nice touch when you're feeling fatigued and can drop down into a cozy 
>> bed for yer hands.  I highly recommend them.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[Jason Zakaras]

Indeed, super clean, it was a gem when I picked it up from you Dylan!  I 
just took a small rip on it and it just glides.  While I think the Rene 
Herse crank looks brilliant, the 48t is just too stout to have much fun for 
me now.  I'm kicking myself for getting rid of the 40/32 crank and the 
17/19 dos... doh!

If it doesn't sell I think I'm going to change out the chainring to 36t and 
maybe put a 17/19 dos on it and see if I can have a smile again.  I can put 
my pull trailer adapter on the bombora and pull the lil one with that too. 
 hm apostasy!

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 6:08:50 PM UTC-5 dylantho...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> For what it's worth - this is my old frame and it's SUPER clean. Jason did 
> a great job in updating it since I sold it to him. 
>
>
> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 2:42:48 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Jason. I looked them up on the Wolf Tooth site and as far as I 
>> can tell they are made only for mountain bike bars; are yours a road bike 
>> bar model, or did you just force them on to the bigger bar?
>>
>> About that Quickbeam: I know from experience that you can list and relist 
>> a very nice bike and come away with far less than than expected; then a 
>> month later someone will post a similar bike and get a much higher price. 
>> This happened when I sold a very nice Sam Hillborne some years ago. FWIW.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 3:36 PM Jason Zakaras  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, they are wolf tooth's silicone grips, I believe the Karv maybe 
>>> fatpaw.  I recently switched all my mtbs over to them and they are lovely.  
>>> Its a nice touch when you're feeling fatigued and can drop down into a cozy 
>>> bed for yer hands.  I highly recommend them.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

[Jason Zakaras]

So as its been posted, I'm selling my Quickbeam, but even with "too low" 
prices, its still not moving.  I also have options to figured out how to 
tow my newest addition and I can make space/have the space so who cares. 
 The big concern for me is riding it and I don't find myself jumping on it 
as often as I'd like.  Partially due to the epic mtn bike scene immediately 
around me and my newly rebuilt bombora that I absolutely love.  That said, 
It would be fun to hit the trails on a QB and I have a pass&stow rack and 
some bags I'd like to use to do some camping with my twin boys (7) and the 
SS would be a nice way to enjoy the trip out to the woods with them.  

The question I pose is what gear options do you all enjoy.  I've dug into 
the internets and I'm sure there is a post or 100 on this here already but 
I figured with the upcoming roduno and its many possibilities, this might 
be a fun chat to dig into.

I'm currently at 48-18 and its great climbing around rural gravel roads in 
the midwest but now I'm in steeper hills its a bear-cat.

Thanks xo
Jason Cheap QB For Sale.

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Re: [RBW] Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

[Eric Daume]

I used to futz around with my old Cross Check, with lot of theoretical
geared and fixed combos out of a 36/40 chainring combo, a 16t fixed cog,
and a 16/19 freewheel. Or something. Now I'm simplifying and mostly just
run my old Trek with a 46/17 fixed gear, about 72" inches on 650b wheels.
That works fine for flat central Ohio. I have a freewheel on the flip side,
but I've never used it.

Eric

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 8:11 PM Jason Zakaras 
wrote:

> So as its been posted, I'm selling my Quickbeam, but even with "too low"
> prices, its still not moving.  I also have options to figured out how to
> tow my newest addition and I can make space/have the space so who cares.
> The big concern for me is riding it and I don't find myself jumping on it
> as often as I'd like.  Partially due to the epic mtn bike scene immediately
> around me and my newly rebuilt bombora that I absolutely love.  That said,
> It would be fun to hit the trails on a QB and I have a pass&stow rack and
> some bags I'd like to use to do some camping with my twin boys (7) and the
> SS would be a nice way to enjoy the trip out to the woods with them.
>
> The question I pose is what gear options do you all enjoy.  I've dug into
> the internets and I'm sure there is a post or 100 on this here already but
> I figured with the upcoming roduno and its many possibilities, this might
> be a fun chat to dig into.
>
> I'm currently at 48-18 and its great climbing around rural gravel roads in
> the midwest but now I'm in steeper hills its a bear-cat.
>
> Thanks xo
> Jason Cheap QB For Sale.
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Re: [RBW] Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

[DavidP]

Your Quickbeam is gorgeous. I've been tempted by it since you first listed 
it - but I can't justify it. It's a premium build and being kind of a niche 
bike, a high end build will take more time to find the right buyer. I do 
wonder if any who might normally be in the market for a QB could be holding 
for the RoadUno even though they are pretty different bikes.

If you parted it out, much of it would probably go quickly but it would be 
a lot more work and you might end up holding some parts.

SS gearing is pretty personal for a lot of reasons (fitness, terrain, etc.) 
- I'm currently in the stage Eric used to be (40/42 chainrings, 17/19 
freewheel, 16t fixed) so my current singlespeed / fixed has three ratios:
~58" free - hilly and/or off-road rides, or just cruising around
~68" free - less hilly road rides
~72" fixed - road fixed

-Dave (in MA where the hills are mostly rolling)

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 8:42:36 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> I used to futz around with my old Cross Check, with lot of theoretical 
> geared and fixed combos out of a 36/40 chainring combo, a 16t fixed cog, 
> and a 16/19 freewheel. Or something. Now I'm simplifying and mostly just 
> run my old Trek with a 46/17 fixed gear, about 72" inches on 650b wheels. 
> That works fine for flat central Ohio. I have a freewheel on the flip side, 
> but I've never used it.
>
> Eric
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 8:11 PM Jason Zakaras  wrote:
>
>> So as its been posted, I'm selling my Quickbeam, but even with "too low" 
>> prices, its still not moving.  I also have options to figured out how to 
>> tow my newest addition and I can make space/have the space so who cares.  
>> The big concern for me is riding it and I don't find myself jumping on it 
>> as often as I'd like.  Partially due to the epic mtn bike scene immediately 
>> around me and my newly rebuilt bombora that I absolutely love.  That said, 
>> It would be fun to hit the trails on a QB and I have a pass&stow rack and 
>> some bags I'd like to use to do some camping with my twin boys (7) and the 
>> SS would be a nice way to enjoy the trip out to the woods with them.  
>>
>> The question I pose is what gear options do you all enjoy.  I've dug into 
>> the internets and I'm sure there is a post or 100 on this here already but 
>> I figured with the upcoming roduno and its many possibilities, this might 
>> be a fun chat to dig into.
>>
>> I'm currently at 48-18 and its great climbing around rural gravel roads 
>> in the midwest but now I'm in steeper hills its a bear-cat.
>>
>> Thanks xo
>> Jason Cheap QB For Sale.
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Re: [RBW] Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

[Patrick Moore]

I have to say that I personally would keep that QB and ride it, at least
until the market improves.

The old single speed mtb standard gear was ~50-55". Personally I find that
far too low not to get irritated on the flats. I don't know what your hills
are like, but I preferred 60" to 65" and walking to a lower gear.

Long ago I built a fixed gear mountain bike and decided I preferred a gear
no lower than about 60" or 62" (175 mm cranks) because, while I don't mind
getting off and walking, I absolutely hate going downhill or before
headwinds in a tiny gear. My hills were sometimes steep and often sandy but
not that long (half a mile at longest).

After a bit I decided I preferred multiple gears for real hills and turned
the mtb (nice top model Diamond Back) into a fixed gear allrounder with 60
mm Big Apples, a 64" gear and 170 mm cranks.

A bit later I set up a 2010 Monocog 29er with a single 63" gear (170 mm
cranks) which was fine for all around sandy road/trail riding and modest
hills as well as flat pavement.

My current (2012) Monocog has a single 65" gear and 175 mm cranks for
sometimes deepish sand (but 72 mm tires at 13 psi) but I don't often face
hills on that bike.

If I were faced with more hills I'd want at least a second, much lower
climbing gear. I've toyed with the idea of a kickback hub for a ~46" direct
and a 64" overdrive (1.38) but so far I've preferred the simplicity of a
single gear. But if I were faced with more hills I might do this. Or I
might try to find a way to get a 19 t and the current 15 t cog on one side
of the hub that with the 32 t ring (30.5" wheel) would give a 51" low and a
65" high, and use a QR hub for easy swapping.

OTOH, when I briefly put 42 mm (39 mm actual on the 19 mm OW rims) Naches
Passes on my 1999 Joe Starck road custom, I rode it on some of our firmer
sand with a SA 2 speed fixed hub giving 57" and 76" gears, and it was great
fun but I didn't like getting my "pretty bike" all dirty.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 6:11 PM Jason Zakaras 
wrote:

> So as its been posted, I'm selling my Quickbeam, but even with "too low"
> prices, its still not moving.  I also have options to figured out how to
> tow my newest addition and I can make space/have the space so who cares.
> The big concern for me is riding it and I don't find myself jumping on it
> as often as I'd like.  Partially due to the epic mtn bike scene immediately
> around me and my newly rebuilt bombora that I absolutely love.  That said,
> It would be fun to hit the trails on a QB and I have a pass&stow rack and
> some bags I'd like to use to do some camping with my twin boys (7) and the
> SS would be a nice way to enjoy the trip out to the woods with them.
>
> The question I pose is what gear options do you all enjoy.  I've dug into
> the internets and I'm sure there is a post or 100 on this here already but
> I figured with the upcoming roduno and its many possibilities, this might
> be a fun chat to dig into.
>
> I'm currently at 48-18 and its great climbing around rural gravel roads in
> the midwest but now I'm in steeper hills its a bear-cat.
>
> Thanks xo
> Jason Cheap QB For Sale.
>
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Re: [RBW] Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

[Jason Zakaras]

Thanks for the excellent information and antidotes Patrick and David... I 
appreciate the details and after crunching some numbers, it might be a good 
plan to flip my 48t chainring to a 40 and feel the difference from the 
current 74" to a more dialed back 61". Then, if I need more or less I can 
pick up a different cog or play from there.  I was debating back and forth 
to drop to either my options of 40 or 36 and felt like 36 made more sense 
but I think I might find a better feel with a 40 and not cut back so far 
that it takes a lot to bring it closer... smaller tweaks vs giant swings 
maybe?  a 36t would put me at mid 55" which might be good but I could make 
more tweaks with the 40t and still have the speed that I do enjoy.

Thanks again, I am fully aware that there is a bunch of value I'd be 
walking away from, but more importantly I absolutely love this Riv out of 
the entire lineup and if there were one LOTR races I loved the most it's 
the Ents (and that matters, to me)

xo

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 9:15:54 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I have to say that I personally would keep that QB and ride it, at least 
> until the market improves.
>
> The old single speed mtb standard gear was ~50-55". Personally I find that 
> far too low not to get irritated on the flats. I don't know what your hills 
> are like, but I preferred 60" to 65" and walking to a lower gear.
>
> Long ago I built a fixed gear mountain bike and decided I preferred a gear 
> no lower than about 60" or 62" (175 mm cranks) because, while I don't mind 
> getting off and walking, I absolutely hate going downhill or before 
> headwinds in a tiny gear. My hills were sometimes steep and often sandy but 
> not that long (half a mile at longest).
>
> After a bit I decided I preferred multiple gears for real hills and turned 
> the mtb (nice top model Diamond Back) into a fixed gear allrounder with 60 
> mm Big Apples, a 64" gear and 170 mm cranks.
>
> A bit later I set up a 2010 Monocog 29er with a single 63" gear (170 mm 
> cranks) which was fine for all around sandy road/trail riding and modest 
> hills as well as flat pavement.
>
> My current (2012) Monocog has a single 65" gear and 175 mm cranks for 
> sometimes deepish sand (but 72 mm tires at 13 psi) but I don't often face 
> hills on that bike.
>
> If I were faced with more hills I'd want at least a second, much lower 
> climbing gear. I've toyed with the idea of a kickback hub for a ~46" direct 
> and a 64" overdrive (1.38) but so far I've preferred the simplicity of a 
> single gear. But if I were faced with more hills I might do this. Or I 
> might try to find a way to get a 19 t and the current 15 t cog on one side 
> of the hub that with the 32 t ring (30.5" wheel) would give a 51" low and a 
> 65" high, and use a QR hub for easy swapping. 
>
> OTOH, when I briefly put 42 mm (39 mm actual on the 19 mm OW rims) Naches 
> Passes on my 1999 Joe Starck road custom, I rode it on some of our firmer 
> sand with a SA 2 speed fixed hub giving 57" and 76" gears, and it was great 
> fun but I didn't like getting my "pretty bike" all dirty.
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 6:11 PM Jason Zakaras  wrote:
>
>> So as its been posted, I'm selling my Quickbeam, but even with "too low" 
>> prices, its still not moving.  I also have options to figured out how to 
>> tow my newest addition and I can make space/have the space so who cares.  
>> The big concern for me is riding it and I don't find myself jumping on it 
>> as often as I'd like.  Partially due to the epic mtn bike scene immediately 
>> around me and my newly rebuilt bombora that I absolutely love.  That said, 
>> It would be fun to hit the trails on a QB and I have a pass&stow rack and 
>> some bags I'd like to use to do some camping with my twin boys (7) and the 
>> SS would be a nice way to enjoy the trip out to the woods with them.  
>>
>> The question I pose is what gear options do you all enjoy.  I've dug into 
>> the internets and I'm sure there is a post or 100 on this here already but 
>> I figured with the upcoming roduno and its many possibilities, this might 
>> be a fun chat to dig into.
>>
>> I'm currently at 48-18 and its great climbing around rural gravel roads 
>> in the midwest but now I'm in steeper hills its a bear-cat.
>>
>> Thanks xo
>> Jason Cheap QB For Sale.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

[Hoch in ut]

Good advices above. On my SS mountain bike, I run about 51gi. About 5-700’ 
climbing per mile around here. More gravel SS, I ran closer to 60gi. 

I do love fixed offroad. 
If you haven’t visited this site, it’s excellent read. 

http://www.63xc.com

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 8:38:07 PM UTC-6 jasonz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the excellent information and antidotes Patrick and David... I 
> appreciate the details and after crunching some numbers, it might be a good 
> plan to flip my 48t chainring to a 40 and feel the difference from the 
> current 74" to a more dialed back 61". Then, if I need more or less I can 
> pick up a different cog or play from there.  I was debating back and forth 
> to drop to either my options of 40 or 36 and felt like 36 made more sense 
> but I think I might find a better feel with a 40 and not cut back so far 
> that it takes a lot to bring it closer... smaller tweaks vs giant swings 
> maybe?  a 36t would put me at mid 55" which might be good but I could make 
> more tweaks with the 40t and still have the speed that I do enjoy.
>
> Thanks again, I am fully aware that there is a bunch of value I'd be 
> walking away from, but more importantly I absolutely love this Riv out of 
> the entire lineup and if there were one LOTR races I loved the most it's 
> the Ents (and that matters, to me)
>
> xo
>
> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 9:15:54 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I have to say that I personally would keep that QB and ride it, at least 
>> until the market improves.
>>
>> The old single speed mtb standard gear was ~50-55". Personally I find 
>> that far too low not to get irritated on the flats. I don't know what your 
>> hills are like, but I preferred 60" to 65" and walking to a lower gear.
>>
>> Long ago I built a fixed gear mountain bike and decided I preferred a 
>> gear no lower than about 60" or 62" (175 mm cranks) because, while I don't 
>> mind getting off and walking, I absolutely hate going downhill or before 
>> headwinds in a tiny gear. My hills were sometimes steep and often sandy but 
>> not that long (half a mile at longest).
>>
>> After a bit I decided I preferred multiple gears for real hills and 
>> turned the mtb (nice top model Diamond Back) into a fixed gear allrounder 
>> with 60 mm Big Apples, a 64" gear and 170 mm cranks.
>>
>> A bit later I set up a 2010 Monocog 29er with a single 63" gear (170 mm 
>> cranks) which was fine for all around sandy road/trail riding and modest 
>> hills as well as flat pavement.
>>
>> My current (2012) Monocog has a single 65" gear and 175 mm cranks for 
>> sometimes deepish sand (but 72 mm tires at 13 psi) but I don't often face 
>> hills on that bike.
>>
>> If I were faced with more hills I'd want at least a second, much lower 
>> climbing gear. I've toyed with the idea of a kickback hub for a ~46" direct 
>> and a 64" overdrive (1.38) but so far I've preferred the simplicity of a 
>> single gear. But if I were faced with more hills I might do this. Or I 
>> might try to find a way to get a 19 t and the current 15 t cog on one side 
>> of the hub that with the 32 t ring (30.5" wheel) would give a 51" low and a 
>> 65" high, and use a QR hub for easy swapping. 
>>
>> OTOH, when I briefly put 42 mm (39 mm actual on the 19 mm OW rims) Naches 
>> Passes on my 1999 Joe Starck road custom, I rode it on some of our firmer 
>> sand with a SA 2 speed fixed hub giving 57" and 76" gears, and it was great 
>> fun but I didn't like getting my "pretty bike" all dirty.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 6:11 PM Jason Zakaras  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So as its been posted, I'm selling my Quickbeam, but even with "too low" 
>>> prices, its still not moving.  I also have options to figured out how to 
>>> tow my newest addition and I can make space/have the space so who cares.  
>>> The big concern for me is riding it and I don't find myself jumping on it 
>>> as often as I'd like.  Partially due to the epic mtn bike scene immediately 
>>> around me and my newly rebuilt bombora that I absolutely love.  That said, 
>>> It would be fun to hit the trails on a QB and I have a pass&stow rack and 
>>> some bags I'd like to use to do some camping with my twin boys (7) and the 
>>> SS would be a nice way to enjoy the trip out to the woods with them.  
>>>
>>> The question I pose is what gear options do you all enjoy.  I've dug 
>>> into the internets and I'm sure there is a post or 100 on this here already 
>>> but I figured with the upcoming roduno and its many possibilities, this 
>>> might be a fun chat to dig into.
>>>
>>> I'm currently at 48-18 and its great climbing around rural gravel roads 
>>> in the midwest but now I'm in steeper hills its a bear-cat.
>>>
>>> Thanks xo
>>> Jason Cheap QB For Sale.
>>>
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