Re: [RBW] 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Garth]

I'd guess it's working out for Max since he hasn't posted an update, that's 
usually how it goes when all is well !  

I can't say bike fitting is mysterious, I'd call it intuitive. While others 
can help steer you in the right direction, the fine tuning is all an 
"inside job", so to speak. Just as no one can eat or breathe for another, 
the Life that Lives In and As ALL isn't up for "negotiation". It MUST BE ! 

Since I've been re-familiarizing myself with riding in road position with 
DT shifters and new saddle, I've moved mine forward some 15mm+ from when I 
started with it. It just keeps feeling better, as in more 
efficient/effective use of what strengths I have. Yesterday I unexpectedly 
found myself riding up a knarly hill that has some really steep sections. I 
had not ridden it in a long time and surely had my doubts as to doing it. 
It took a while to get in the groove and took to standing on the initial 
very steepest parts, but soon found myself seated and going up just fine in 
the 36/32 high gear. I used to have to stand the whole way. I could feel 
how much more effective it is to be able to use the quad/front muscles more 
by sitting more forward. When I was too far back I'd have to either stand 
or go to a lower granny gear and felt weak. My road bike doesn't have a 
lower gear and thankfully so. I didn't need a lower gear to compensate for 
my self-made mistake, I simply had to express my inherent strengths most 
effectively and efficiently, upon which it often feels effortless. Rather 
neat in that way ! I'm riding 150mm cranks and somewhat mid-foot pedaling, 
all of which just works well for me.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[danielle da cruz]

Thanks to all for the kind and thoughtful responses!

@Jason I get what you're saying and had been thinking about the Albastache 
for months. I do like the reach on it and the more assertive set up (why 
does aggressive feel wrong to me in the context of me biking??). What 
ultimately pulled me away was the brake set up. I put inverse levers on the 
Porteur and liked having my hand at the levers for my mostly city riding 
through traffic. Now you've got me thinking about the Albatross upside down 
:)

@Jock I too hope he knows how lucky he is! At the time it happened I didn't 
even mention it to him, knowing how much he'd beat himself up if he knew 
what happened in a moment of carelessness. We had a riding date out to 
dinner last night and I mentioned over a beer that I shared this story that 
he of course didn't remember, having never been told. He asked me to show 
him my post...I declined :p

@Johnny Truly appreciate hearing this from someone who's tried both! I'm 
also really drawn to the beauty of that bar and am dreaming up elaborate 
bar tape combos a la Grant and Blue Lug. I'm still thinking I might want to 
shave off a bit the swept back length if it wouldn't compromise anything 

@Kim Thank you, great advice and wise move, especially thinking of anytime 
it's put on the rack to accompany us on vacation (looking at you @Leah and 
your upcoming trip). Maybe it'll only be the Chev that rides the rack. 
Maybe I'll just accept that inevitable chips and scratches that are sure to 
come, like the scars we wear having lived. Or maybe I'll just gather all 
our old cloth diapers and swaddle it for the ride...

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:08:46 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I was reminded of you guys today when I was looking at my bike. My most 
> precious raspberry one is definitely showing minor signs of use. It’s 
> dirty. Gritty, even. And the Platypus decal is marred (just a tiny bit) and 
> I’m seeing small paint chips begin to form.
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>
> I am (unexpectedly) comforted by this, because it means that the bike is 
> having adventures and serving its purpose. I am going to be putting 4 bikes 
> on my rack for a bike overnight I’m doing with the women of my bike club. I 
> am rather nervous about the jostling and subsequent paint damage that could 
> occur, but I’ve decided it’s worth the risk to have the experience of a 
> real bike adventure.
>
> I was grinning to myself remembering my old Betty, the first “nice” bike I 
> ever had, and how I put all kinds of marks on it and was totally 
> unbothered. I didn’t know it was tragic to mark up your bike at the time. 
> Working on getting back to that!
>
> I know these imperfections are pretty minor, but hey, it’s progress in the 
> life of this bike!
> Leah
>
> On Jul 21, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Kim H.  wrote:
>
>  
>
> Danielle,
>
> As a suggestion in protecting your new Sergio Green Roadini bicycle, you 
> might want to use some this helicopter tape. I bought some with plenty left 
> over from my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike in protecting her against the elements.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QC6H90/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> BTW... I love your storytelling, as well. 
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:02:44 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> @Danielle I have used both the loscos and the chocos. There is not a huge 
>> difference to be honest but if you are OK with the narrow width I can say 
>> that I don't think there is a handlebar on the planet that is better 
>> looking than the losco bar. 
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:55:48 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote:
>>
>>> …Or he’d surely be out on the street, looking for cover. 
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 1:43 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>>>
 Danielle, you have the patience of a saint. Your partner is lucky man, 
 truly living a charmed life. 

 Jock

 On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:51 PM danielle da cruz  
 wrote:

> This story hit me in the worst way. Six years ago for a milestone 
> birthday I decided to purchase a beautiful orange Cheviot from Riv. I'd 
> jumped on one that was too large for me that our local bike shop had on 
> display and from that moment on could think of nothing else. I felt like 
> a 
> bird taking flight on that bike, so we placed the order for my size and 
> waited for delivery. I got notice when it arrived and raced home to find 
> that my ever-helpful partner had opened the box and was already 
> assembling 
> it (you know where this is going)... 
>
> On our concrete walkway.
>  
> With the frame laying on the bare ground, scratching along as he moved 
> it. 
>
> Taking a bite out of "v" in the Cheviot. 
>
> Instant decal damage on day one. 
>
> Scratched down to the steel. 
>
> I feel sick to my stomach even thinking abou

[RBW] Re: Early 80's Specialized Sequoia

['Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Did your noticeably heavy Sequoia perhaps have heavy wheels or thornproof 
tubes or a spring Brooks saddle or some such?  I find Sequoias to be 
sportingly light. 

~pb 

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 9:27:21 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> There have been a couple of mentions of early 80's Sequoias in the Roadini 
> thread. I had one that replaced my crashed Fuji America. I believe Bike 
> Nashbar was blowing them out. It was a noticeably heavy bike, but 
> absolutely wonderful to ride and very pretty. Alas, it was stolen out of my 
> West Philadelphia apartment. If anyone has or sees on available in my size 
> (I think 54 or 56?), please let me know! I'll send a RONA t-shirt as a 
> finder's fee :-)
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>

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[RBW] Re: Nice brake bits: Shovel Research

[R. Alexis]

Thank you for the info. This brake cable hanger looks nice! I have a Kona 
one on my Rivendell Mountain from when I initially built it. Bought 
several. This set up worked better than the Syncros Hang Doggie that I 
initially planned to use on that build. The Softride suspension stem set up 
would have made things a little tight. Thinking of doing this for an 
upgrade. 

Reginald Alexis

On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 5:02:13 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> Just pulled this out of the box from Shovel Research and had to share - I 
> love the care and level of detail Sal has put into designing, making and 
> even packing & shipping each of the parts.
>
> I won't have time to install them anytime soon, but I love my Rod Steward 
> and I imagine these will perform and look similarly.
>
> Get yours here while they are in stock: 
> https://shovelresearch.com/fork-mounted-brake-cable-hanger
>
> Max
> [image: IMG_1190.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_1191.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: Blue Lug Koma Lights in-stock at Analog

[J S]

I think the last ones I got were from Crust. I bought some from Blue Lug 
previously. 

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 4:15:05 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> I fully submerged mine under water for over an hour accidentally. The 
> switch got kind of weird but it still worked for close to a year before the 
> switch mechanism stopped working entirely. I've been meaning to replace it 
> but were out of stock for a long time. I've since moved to a dynamo. I wish 
> Koma made a dynamo light...they look so nice. 
>
> 10/10. 
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:53:06 AM UTC-7 Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> These were everywhere for a while until they weren't, haha. Analog got 
>> some back in-stock if anybody is in the market for one. Big fan of mine.
>>
>> https://analogcycles.com/products/blue-lug-koma-usb-taillight
>>
>> best,
>> matt
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Seat angle

[J]

I've also found that as a Brooks breaks in/softens up, I need to tilt it up 
a bit more to maintain riding position/comfortable pelvic tilt. I don't 
ride upright. I'm sure it varies for everyone

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-4 John A. Bennett wrote:

> Tilting the nose up prevents sliding forward when you're riding upright 
> bars. 
>
> It feels the same as an English equestrian saddle, once you get the hang 
> of it. 
>
>
> https://www.allpony.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/PartsSaddle2Web-1024x889.png
>
> John in Portland
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:07:51 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> brooks saddles have a bit of a curvature due to the shape of the leather 
>> and frame. In my experience, when you sit in a more upright position your 
>> sit bones sit further back on on the wider area of the saddle. Due to the 
>> hammock shape of the saddle you nose it up a touch to maintain a somewhat 
>> flat seat position to avoid slipping forward. 
>>
>> not this way for everyone - there's variables like pelvic tilt, bike fit, 
>> core strength, and general preference. But a lot of people using b17's on 
>> relaxed bikes tend to nose up. 
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:42:27 PM UTC-7 richd...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I was watching the Asheville video- looks like a great event. I’m sure 
>>> we could lure 10’s to the DesMoines metro some  weekend for a ride. :-) 
>>> Corn and beans are a pretty sight you know….
>>>
>>> Anyhow- my mind wondered to the range (one?) of nose up  brooks saddles 
>>> in pictures. What am I not understanding? No judgement. Could I make that 
>>> work? When working with friends that are new riders- they seem to want to 
>>> have a too high of a saddle height and tilt it down. 
>>>
>>> Comments or feedback from those that nose up works for? 
>>>
>>> Killing time as a passenger traveling to a Shriner’s event. 
>>>
>>> Rich
>>> In DSM
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Ultradynamico Cava JFF. Black. 650x47.99. $100 pair shipped!

[J]

Hi Igor,
I'm contemplating these tires if they are still available.
cheers
J

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 9:23:13 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:

> Pretty good tires, hold tubeless well actually, I'd like to go with some 
> RH I have on hand instead. $100 pair shipped!
>

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[RBW] Re: Early 80's Specialized Sequoia

[Ted Durant]

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:57:41 AM UTC-4 Peter Bridge wrote:

Did your noticeably heavy Sequoia perhaps have heavy wheels or thornproof 
tubes or a spring Brooks saddle or some such?  I find Sequoias to be 
sportingly light. 

No, it was the stock parts that came with it. Fairly light wheels, Turbo 
tires. I would make the same statement about Heron #1, the prototype, which 
is a Road frame built with Touring stays at the rear. Both frames are a joy 
to ride. 

Interestingly, I read somewhere that the Sequoia was designed with a bit 
heavier down tube and chain stays. Recently I posted on a frame building 
forum a query about the ratio of stiffness among the frame tubes. If you 
look at older Reynolds tube set specs, they have .1mm thicker down tubes 
than top and seat. Or, if you like, their top and seat tube walls are .1mm 
thinner than the down tube. All other tube manufacturers, and even Reynolds 
now today, specify tube sets with equal wall thickness around the main 
triangle. It's also important to note that the down tube and seat tube were 
always 1/8" larger diameter than the top tube. Lately it seems steel 
builders have been experimenting away from that, but I haven't seen any 
discussion of why they would do that. For my Rivendell Road, for example, 
Grant spec'd the exact same tube for both top and down tubes. So, that goes 
the other direction, making the top tube exactly the same stiffness as the 
down tube. BUT, because the top tube is shorter than the down tube, there 
is less butted section remaining in the top tube. Anyway, my hypothesis is 
that the relative stiffness among the tubes has an effect on how the frame 
feels, and the a stiffer down tube and chain stays is what produced the 
"magic" feel of a Reynolds frame. Perhaps backing up this hypothesis is the 
"Spine" line of frames that Trek built, with steel or titanium down tubes 
and chain stays, and carbon tubes elsewhere. Their marketing touted the 
effect that had on the feel of the frame. A friend has the titanium one and 
he loves it.

Sorry for the meandering detour. I just found the Specialized Sequoia frame 
to feel heavy when lifting, compared to some other steel frames. But I 
loved the way it rode.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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Re: [RBW] Legolas 54 FFHS - back on the market!

[Valerie Yates]

Legolas is sold! Pending packing and shipping, it should be on its way next 
week. I am delighted it is going to a listmember. I hope to see pics and 
read updates from time to time. 

On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 3:57:28 PM UTC-6 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Thank God this is too small for me. Legolas is one of my Holy Grail bikes.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Jul 10, 2023, at 2:27 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:
>
> Hi all. The Legolas is still available. I'm happy to sell it either 
> complete or just the frame/fork and whatever parts you may want. How about 
> $1600 for frame, fork, headset, and bottom bracket or $2500 complete as 
> shown with Campy Centaur 10 speed and Rene Herse randonneur bars and 
> Steilacoom tires. If you prefer, I can swap with a longer stem and noodle 
> handlebars.  I will pay for packing and buyer pays shipping. It is very 
> lightweight and Bike Flights has great rates on ground shipping. It is a 
> sweet bike and the yellow is so summery! 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 3:49:19 PM UTC-6 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> Were you sad you missed out on the lightning fast sale of my beautiful, 
>> yellow Legolas?  Through no fault of its own, it is back on the market. The 
>> buyer had a turn of events that made it the wrong time to be buying a bike 
>> so I refunded his payment. I was excited for the sale because he was 
>> actually planning to race it. I'm copying my original message below with 
>> the details of sale.  Let me know if you are interested. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 10:29:09 AM UTC-6 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>
>> I am offering for sale one of the legendary Legolas: frame, fork, Chris 
>> King threadless headset, and bottom bracket. Anyone interested likely 
>> already knows this bike was designed for cyclocross racing and thus is 
>> super lightweight, nimble, and fun. You also know that Riv is not taking 
>> custom orders at present and that they are out of decals for this model. 
>> The yellow is striking. It is a very racy yellow. Pictures here 
>> .
>>
>> Seat tube is 54 c-t. Top tube is 54.5 c-c.  I’’m 5’7” with an 82 PBH and 
>> I used a 60 stem. The person I bought it from was 5’10” and he had a 110 
>> stem on it.  We both had the saddle at 72 (as shown in pics). It takes 700c 
>> wheels and is shown with 700x38 tires.
>>
>> It has various chips in the paint and some wrinkling of the decal on the 
>> seat tube.  In this size frame, there is some toe overlap. This is an 
>> issue only when making very tight turns at very slow speeds. It is not 
>> apparent at riding speeds. If either of these aspects will bother you, this 
>> is not the frame for you.
>>
>> Price is $1800. Add $100 if you want the pair of Paul canti brakes with 
>> moon units. Add another $100 if you want the Rotor crankset (170 length) 
>> and Sugino chain rings (40-34). Everything else is omitted from sale. I 
>> will pay for it to be professionally packed. Buyer to arrange and pay for 
>> shipping. Local pickup is available in/near Boulder CO.
>>
>> Questions? Ask away. Interested? Send me a private message.
>>
>> Best,
>> Val in Boulder CO
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[JAS]

Danielle,
Thanks for sharing your story.  It's such a pleasure to read a well written 
tale and I shuddered at the description of your pristine Cheviot losing the 
battle with concrete.  I'm looking forward to the images of diaper 
swaddling!  

Your story reminded me of some advice my older brother gave my younger 
brother.  Both of them avid outdoorsy hunters/fishers/campers/boaters, they 
drive pick-ups for their adventures.  Younger bro gets a brand new Ford and 
doesn't want to drive a particular road because his new baby is going to 
get scratched.  Older bro says, "Find a track that is overgrown with brush 
and drive your truck through it.  It will get scratched up and you'll never 
have to worry about it again."  So much for precious truck finishes!  (And 
advice from older brothers...ha!)   

Please keep posting and sharing your new bike decisions & adventures!

RivSisters,
--Joyce  (who has accepted the beausage on Clem, but is still cringing at 
new scratches on Platy)

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 8:47:43 AM UTC-7 daniell...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks to all for the kind and thoughtful responses!
>
> @Jason I get what you're saying and had been thinking about the Albastache 
> for months. I do like the reach on it and the more assertive set up (why 
> does aggressive feel wrong to me in the context of me biking??). What 
> ultimately pulled me away was the brake set up. I put inverse levers on the 
> Porteur and liked having my hand at the levers for my mostly city riding 
> through traffic. Now you've got me thinking about the Albatross upside down 
> :)
>
> @Jock I too hope he knows how lucky he is! At the time it happened I 
> didn't even mention it to him, knowing how much he'd beat himself up if he 
> knew what happened in a moment of carelessness. We had a riding date out to 
> dinner last night and I mentioned over a beer that I shared this story that 
> he of course didn't remember, having never been told. He asked me to show 
> him my post...I declined :p
>
> @Johnny Truly appreciate hearing this from someone who's tried both! I'm 
> also really drawn to the beauty of that bar and am dreaming up elaborate 
> bar tape combos a la Grant and Blue Lug. I'm still thinking I might want to 
> shave off a bit the swept back length if it wouldn't compromise anything 
>
> @Kim Thank you, great advice and wise move, especially thinking of anytime 
> it's put on the rack to accompany us on vacation (looking at you @Leah and 
> your upcoming trip). Maybe it'll only be the Chev that rides the rack. 
> Maybe I'll just accept that inevitable chips and scratches that are sure to 
> come, like the scars we wear having lived. Or maybe I'll just gather all 
> our old cloth diapers and swaddle it for the ride...
>
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:08:46 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I was reminded of you guys today when I was looking at my bike. My most 
>> precious raspberry one is definitely showing minor signs of use. It’s 
>> dirty. Gritty, even. And the Platypus decal is marred (just a tiny bit) and 
>> I’m seeing small paint chips begin to form.
>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>>
>> I am (unexpectedly) comforted by this, because it means that the bike is 
>> having adventures and serving its purpose. I am going to be putting 4 bikes 
>> on my rack for a bike overnight I’m doing with the women of my bike club. I 
>> am rather nervous about the jostling and subsequent paint damage that could 
>> occur, but I’ve decided it’s worth the risk to have the experience of a 
>> real bike adventure.
>>
>> I was grinning to myself remembering my old Betty, the first “nice” bike 
>> I ever had, and how I put all kinds of marks on it and was totally 
>> unbothered. I didn’t know it was tragic to mark up your bike at the time. 
>> Working on getting back to that!
>>
>> I know these imperfections are pretty minor, but hey, it’s progress in 
>> the life of this bike!
>> Leah
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>> Danielle,
>>
>> As a suggestion in protecting your new Sergio Green Roadini bicycle, you 
>> might want to use some this helicopter tape. I bought some with plenty left 
>> over from my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike in protecting her against the elements.
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QC6H90/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>> BTW... I love your storytelling, as well. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:02:44 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> @Danielle I have used both the loscos and the chocos. There is not a 
>>> huge difference to be honest but if you are OK with the narrow width I can 
>>> say that I don't think there is a handlebar on the planet that is better 
>>> looking than the losco bar. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:55:48 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote:
>>>
 …Or he’d surely be out on the street, looking for cover. 

 Jock


 On Fri, Jul 21, 20

[RBW] Re: Seat angle

[Valerie Yates]

J -- same here. It looks funny (especially in pictures) but is much more 
comfortable and stable feeling to have the nose pointed slightly upward. 
Not true of other saddles. 

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:36:53 AM UTC-6 J wrote:

> I've also found that as a Brooks breaks in/softens up, I need to tilt it 
> up a bit more to maintain riding position/comfortable pelvic tilt. I don't 
> ride upright. I'm sure it varies for everyone
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-4 John A. Bennett wrote:
>
>> Tilting the nose up prevents sliding forward when you're riding upright 
>> bars. 
>>
>> It feels the same as an English equestrian saddle, once you get the hang 
>> of it. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.allpony.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/PartsSaddle2Web-1024x889.png
>>
>> John in Portland
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:07:51 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> brooks saddles have a bit of a curvature due to the shape of the leather 
>>> and frame. In my experience, when you sit in a more upright position your 
>>> sit bones sit further back on on the wider area of the saddle. Due to the 
>>> hammock shape of the saddle you nose it up a touch to maintain a somewhat 
>>> flat seat position to avoid slipping forward. 
>>>
>>> not this way for everyone - there's variables like pelvic tilt, bike 
>>> fit, core strength, and general preference. But a lot of people using b17's 
>>> on relaxed bikes tend to nose up. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:42:27 PM UTC-7 richd...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I was watching the Asheville video- looks like a great event. I’m sure 
 we could lure 10’s to the DesMoines metro some  weekend for a ride. :-) 
 Corn and beans are a pretty sight you know….

 Anyhow- my mind wondered to the range (one?) of nose up  brooks saddles 
 in pictures. What am I not understanding? No judgement. Could I make that 
 work? When working with friends that are new riders- they seem to want to 
 have a too high of a saddle height and tilt it down. 

 Comments or feedback from those that nose up works for? 

 Killing time as a passenger traveling to a Shriner’s event. 

 Rich
 In DSM

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Blue Lug Koma Lights in-stock at Analog

[Josh C]

These do look nice, thanks for putting me on to them. I run dynamo up front 
on most of my bikes but never have messed with rear dynamo lighting. These 
look nicely integrated into the bike. I just bought two. 

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 12:20:00 PM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think the last ones I got were from Crust. I bought some from Blue Lug 
> previously. 
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 4:15:05 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> I fully submerged mine under water for over an hour accidentally. The 
>> switch got kind of weird but it still worked for close to a year before the 
>> switch mechanism stopped working entirely. I've been meaning to replace it 
>> but were out of stock for a long time. I've since moved to a dynamo. I wish 
>> Koma made a dynamo light...they look so nice. 
>>
>> 10/10. 
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:53:06 AM UTC-7 Matthew Miller wrote:
>>
>>> These were everywhere for a while until they weren't, haha. Analog got 
>>> some back in-stock if anybody is in the market for one. Big fan of mine.
>>>
>>> https://analogcycles.com/products/blue-lug-koma-usb-taillight
>>>
>>> best,
>>> matt
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[maxcr]

Things are working for me without swapping seatposts and simply by pushing 
my saddle forward instead of backwards.

If anyone is still looking, the IRD posts seem to be back at 
Somafab: 
https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/ird-seatpost-wayback-compact-6972?search=compact#attr=346,4463,1073

Max

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 8:08:15 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> I'd guess it's working out for Max since he hasn't posted an update, 
> that's usually how it goes when all is well !  
>
> I can't say bike fitting is mysterious, I'd call it intuitive. While 
> others can help steer you in the right direction, the fine tuning is all an 
> "inside job", so to speak. Just as no one can eat or breathe for another, 
> the Life that Lives In and As ALL isn't up for "negotiation". It MUST BE ! 
>
> Since I've been re-familiarizing myself with riding in road position with 
> DT shifters and new saddle, I've moved mine forward some 15mm+ from when I 
> started with it. It just keeps feeling better, as in more 
> efficient/effective use of what strengths I have. Yesterday I unexpectedly 
> found myself riding up a knarly hill that has some really steep sections. I 
> had not ridden it in a long time and surely had my doubts as to doing it. 
> It took a while to get in the groove and took to standing on the initial 
> very steepest parts, but soon found myself seated and going up just fine in 
> the 36/32 high gear. I used to have to stand the whole way. I could feel 
> how much more effective it is to be able to use the quad/front muscles more 
> by sitting more forward. When I was too far back I'd have to either stand 
> or go to a lower granny gear and felt weak. My road bike doesn't have a 
> lower gear and thankfully so. I didn't need a lower gear to compensate for 
> my self-made mistake, I simply had to express my inherent strengths most 
> effectively and efficiently, upon which it often feels effortless. Rather 
> neat in that way ! I'm riding 150mm cranks and somewhat mid-foot pedaling, 
> all of which just works well for me.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Eastern Indiana Cardinal Greenway

[George Schick]

Josh - thanks for sending that photo of the Greenway trailhead.  Clearly, 
it's under the North D Street bridge that connects East Richmond with the 
Northwest side (AKA "the 20th Century bridge) along the "canyons" of the 
Whitewater River. Brings back a lot of memories.  Makes me even more 
interested of traveling down there to ride the trail.
George
On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:56:31 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:

> [image: 357113918_649293487236374_4426369373476205792_n.jpg]
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 8:54:41 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rick. 
>>
>> I just happened to see this today from Bike Indy. I guess they are 
>> feeling the CG love too.
>>
>> From bike Indy:
>> Have you ever wanted to explore one of Indiana's longest trails? The 
>> Cardinal Greenway extends from Muncie to Richmond. The Cardinal Trail 
>> Century Ride is Saturday July 29, 2023. You don't have to ride a century, 
>> there are various routes that will allow you to explore the distance you 
>> desire.
>> https://cardinalgreenways.org/cardinalcenturyride/ 
>> 
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:50:49 AM UTC-4 Rick Harries wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the report, Josh. I was on the Cardinal Greenway two years 
>>> ago on a trip from Chicago to DC with my MIT Homer.  I enjoyed Richmond’s 
>>> lively downtown, including a great independent bakery. Lots of off road 
>>> trails on that trip made for really nice time. 
>>>
>>> Rick Harries
>>> Easton, Maryland
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:01:17 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>>>
 My first attempt at this. The site is a bit old tech. It kept telling 
 me that my post was too long, so I broke it up. May have been the pic 
 size. 
 Sorry for the typo's. I think I got the point across at least. 

 On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:26:35 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:

> [image: IMG_0476.jpeg][image: IMG_0480.jpeg][image: IMG_0463.jpeg][image: 
> IMG_0465.jpeg]
>
> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:23:16 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_0467.jpeg][image: IMG_0466.jpeg][image: IMG_0464.jpeg]
>> Both of these rides were accomplished on my Atlantis, a 2008 Toyo 61 
>> CM for those that want details. And yes, that’s a sign telling you not 
>> to 
>> drive your horse and buggy on the trail.
>> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:20:20 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_0467.jpeg][image: IMG_0481.jpeg][image: IMG_0478.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:18:08 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>>>
 So, I went back and wrote the southern portion today. I drove out 
 to Richmond, IN, about an hour or so from Indianapolis on the 
 Ohio/Indiana 
 line, and headed north a little past, Losantville, IN for a total of 
 about 
 60 miles. It was a pleasant ride with at least 3/4 being in the shade 
 of 
 trees along the old Cardinal. I just thought I’d share.

 [image: IMG_0477.jpeg]

>>>

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Re: [RBW] 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Garth]

Very Good Max ! 

I got the Soma email that showed the seatpost and noticed it looked 
different, as it was. It's been redesigned with a new forged head and now 
is 30mm setback rather than the 50mm. 

Just so anyone ordering the post understand IRD doesn't make the previous 
version anymore. Read the fine print ! 

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:58:18 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> Things are working for me without swapping seatposts and simply by pushing 
> my saddle forward instead of backwards.
>
> If anyone is still looking, the IRD posts seem to be back at Somafab: 
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/ird-seatpost-wayback-compact-6972?search=compact#attr=346,4463,1073
>
> Max
>
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 8:08:15 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> I'd guess it's working out for Max since he hasn't posted an update, 
>> that's usually how it goes when all is well !  
>>
>> I can't say bike fitting is mysterious, I'd call it intuitive. While 
>> others can help steer you in the right direction, the fine tuning is all an 
>> "inside job", so to speak. Just as no one can eat or breathe for another, 
>> the Life that Lives In and As ALL isn't up for "negotiation". It MUST BE ! 
>>
>> Since I've been re-familiarizing myself with riding in road position with 
>> DT shifters and new saddle, I've moved mine forward some 15mm+ from when I 
>> started with it. It just keeps feeling better, as in more 
>> efficient/effective use of what strengths I have. Yesterday I unexpectedly 
>> found myself riding up a knarly hill that has some really steep sections. I 
>> had not ridden it in a long time and surely had my doubts as to doing it. 
>> It took a while to get in the groove and took to standing on the initial 
>> very steepest parts, but soon found myself seated and going up just fine in 
>> the 36/32 high gear. I used to have to stand the whole way. I could feel 
>> how much more effective it is to be able to use the quad/front muscles more 
>> by sitting more forward. When I was too far back I'd have to either stand 
>> or go to a lower granny gear and felt weak. My road bike doesn't have a 
>> lower gear and thankfully so. I didn't need a lower gear to compensate for 
>> my self-made mistake, I simply had to express my inherent strengths most 
>> effectively and efficiently, upon which it often feels effortless. Rather 
>> neat in that way ! I'm riding 150mm cranks and somewhat mid-foot pedaling, 
>> all of which just works well for me.  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Seat angle

[Joe Bernard]

I run mine way upward - Rich @ Riv style - and the weird thing about it is 
how not-great it feels at first..then it's perfect! My rec for anyone 
interested in this is to start your saddle pointed up higher than you think 
will work, then keep riding after you think it's ridiculous. You may decide 
by Mile 5 that this is the way to go. 

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:56:12 AM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:

> J -- same here. It looks funny (especially in pictures) but is much more 
> comfortable and stable feeling to have the nose pointed slightly upward. 
> Not true of other saddles. 
>
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:36:53 AM UTC-6 J wrote:
>
>> I've also found that as a Brooks breaks in/softens up, I need to tilt it 
>> up a bit more to maintain riding position/comfortable pelvic tilt. I don't 
>> ride upright. I'm sure it varies for everyone
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-4 John A. Bennett wrote:
>>
>>> Tilting the nose up prevents sliding forward when you're riding upright 
>>> bars. 
>>>
>>> It feels the same as an English equestrian saddle, once you get the hang 
>>> of it. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.allpony.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/PartsSaddle2Web-1024x889.png
>>>
>>> John in Portland
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:07:51 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>>
 brooks saddles have a bit of a curvature due to the shape of the 
 leather and frame. In my experience, when you sit in a more upright 
 position your sit bones sit further back on on the wider area of the 
 saddle. Due to the hammock shape of the saddle you nose it up a touch to 
 maintain a somewhat flat seat position to avoid slipping forward. 

 not this way for everyone - there's variables like pelvic tilt, bike 
 fit, core strength, and general preference. But a lot of people using 
 b17's 
 on relaxed bikes tend to nose up. 

 On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 12:42:27 PM UTC-7 richd...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was watching the Asheville video- looks like a great event. I’m sure 
> we could lure 10’s to the DesMoines metro some  weekend for a ride. :-) 
> Corn and beans are a pretty sight you know….
>
> Anyhow- my mind wondered to the range (one?) of nose up  brooks 
> saddles in pictures. What am I not understanding? No judgement. Could I 
> make that work? When working with friends that are new riders- they seem 
> to 
> want to have a too high of a saddle height and tilt it down. 
>
> Comments or feedback from those that nose up works for? 
>
> Killing time as a passenger traveling to a Shriner’s event. 
>
> Rich
> In DSM
>


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Re: [RBW] Cargo/Kid bike recommendations (or bikefriday vs. tern)

[Brian Turner]

It amuses me that the difference in wheelbase length between my medium Big Dummy and my medium Gus is only 9”. On Jul 22, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:You could look for an old Kona MinUte. Kind of a short cargo bike. There was another model like this, but I can't remember what it was.EricOn Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 1:49 PM Drw  wrote:For the last 4 years I've been carrying my kid and all of our family's gear on a rosco bubbe mountain step-thru with crust clydesdale fork. Overall, it's been great, but as he gets bigger, having that amount of weight, that high up, plus a decent load up front is starting to feel really wiggly. I had early on thought that my son would be riding a bike well enough to transition to one of those tag a long attachments like the burley piccolo, but he has some sensory issues with balance and gross motor that will probably make that not a real possibility before he is big enough to just be riding fully on his own. So, I'm looking for a compact cargo bike with the following requirements. -Non electric-Footprint no bigger than a standard bike -Platform/bench rear seat for kids-Some front cargo capability-uses deraillers (though i could be swayed to an IGH)Right now I am mostly looking at the bike friday haul-a-day elite and the tern short haul D8. Both have pros and cons. I am open to any other cool options. And any thoughts about the above models would be appreciated as well. Thanks,Drew



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[RBW] Re: Seat angle

[R. Alexis]

I would be game for a trip to DMOIA. I am not that far here in Fremont, 
Nebraska (just outside Omaha) and have done the trip through many times to 
Chicago. Would be nice to meet or see some list members again. I thing 
there was some mention a while ago either on this list or iBOB about a 
possible gathering in Omaha or Lincoln, Nebraska. 

As for Brooks set up, I have two B-17 saddles on by Bridgestone XO-1 and 
MB-1. I think I have both level or with a slight tilt. I always wondered on 
those bikes I see with the Brooks saddle tilted way up. Will see how things 
shake out once I get more riding on it. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis 

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 2:42:27 PM UTC-5 richdpow...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was watching the Asheville video- looks like a great event. I’m sure we 
> could lure 10’s to the DesMoines metro some  weekend for a ride. :-) Corn 
> and beans are a pretty sight you know….
>
> Anyhow- my mind wondered to the range (one?) of nose up  brooks saddles in 
> pictures. What am I not understanding? No judgement. Could I make that 
> work? When working with friends that are new riders- they seem to want to 
> have a too high of a saddle height and tilt it down. 
>
> Comments or feedback from those that nose up works for? 
>
> Killing time as a passenger traveling to a Shriner’s event. 
>
> Rich
> In DSM
>

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[RBW] FS 53 Susie Longbolts

[Andrew Huston]

Really a wonderful bike but I continually find I need to explore new bikes. 
Its my hobby, what can I say?
Beautiful gold Susie with a nice build is on the block. 
Velocity Cliffhanger rims laced to Deore hubs, Terravail Ehline 2.5 tan wall
Deore 11 speed RD, shifter, and cassette
Middleburn crank 36T ring
Kalloy post
Velo Orange Siene bars with a Jim stem 80mm
Also have a set of Rambler bars 

Looking for $2700 plus packing and shipping cost. Located in Michigan. 



I will add photos when I get to my personal computer otherwise shoot me an 
email or text and I can get those to you. 

Andrew
810-841-4396



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[RBW] Re: FS: Fab's Fanny Waxed Cordura Olive Bag

[scott minor]

Fanny is sold.   thanks!

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 3:33:19 PM UTC-4 scott minor wrote:

> Passing along a Fab's Fanny in good condition.  Waxed cordura material. 
>  Used only occasionally over the last year.
>
> $150 shipped 
>
> [image: IMG_4760.jpg]
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[RBW] Feedback wanted on ordering from circles-jp.com in Japan

[Kim H.]

I am considering ordering from Circles-jp.a web store in Japan. 

What are your thoughts and comments about your experiences ordering from 
them; pros and cons.

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel. 

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[RBW] Re: Feedback wanted on ordering from circles-jp.com in Japan

[Kim H.]

 I am considering ordering a bicycle accessory from Circles-jp.a web store 
in Japan. 

https://shop.circles-jp.com/

What are your thoughts and comments about your experiences ordering from 
them; pros and cons.

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.



On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 8:28:26 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> I am considering ordering from Circles-jp.a web store in Japan. 
>
> What are your thoughts and comments about your experiences ordering from 
> them; pros and cons.
>
> Thank-you.
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>

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[RBW] Feedback wanted on ordering from circles-jp.com in Japan

[Kim H.]

 I am considering ordering a bicycle accessory from Circles-jp.a web store 
in Japan. 

https://shop.circles-jp.com/

What are your thoughts and comments about your experiences ordering from 
them; pros and cons.

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

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[RBW] Re: Feedback wanted on ordering from circles-jp.com in Japan

[Mr. Ray]

Ordered from them in the past.  Zero problems.  Circles is an established 
online shop in Japan.  If the product/price is rightgo for it.

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:43:53 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am considering ordering a bicycle accessory from Circles-jp.a web store 
> in Japan. 
>
> https://shop.circles-jp.com/
>
> What are your thoughts and comments about your experiences ordering from 
> them; pros and cons.
>
> Thank-you.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Feedback wanted on ordering from circles-jp.com in Japan

[Kim H.]

I thank-you very much Mr. Ray for your comments and encouragement.

Kim Hetzel.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 9:35 PM Mr. Ray  wrote:

> Ordered from them in the past.  Zero problems.  Circles is an established
> online shop in Japan.  If the product/price is rightgo for it.
>
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:43:53 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am considering ordering a bicycle accessory from Circles-jp.a web store
>> in Japan.
>>
>> https://shop.circles-jp.com/
>>
>> What are your thoughts and comments about your experiences ordering from
>> them; pros and cons.
>>
>> Thank-you.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
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