Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Build Opinions

[Drew Fitchette]

Hey Ted!

I’ve got a 53cm Atlantis with 100mm stem and albatross bars, and a near 0 
mm stem with mustache bars on my Holdsworth. Both super different vibes, 
but I’m in Atlanta if you have a desire to check either of them out!

Love my Alba bars though!

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:35:38 PM UTC-4 brizbarn wrote:

> I started with SimWorks Little Nick bars with a 80mm 7 shaped stem on my 
> Appaloosa. Decided to try Billie bars after a few months just to see if I 
> would like a more upright position.  For me, they felt too upright, and 
> made pedaling hard / standing up to climb feel awkward. I put the SimWorks 
> bars back, but changed to a Nitto Periscopa stem and have been happy with 
> that. 
>
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 5:30:11 PM UTC-7 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> I clearly too WAY too long pondering my response, Garth nailed it here 
>> IMHO...
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 4:27 PM Garth  wrote:
>>
>>> Now that I see Ted's bike the picture is more clear. the VO bars are the 
>>> Grand Randonneur version which is markedly different from the Nouveau 
>>> version.  The difference in reach is 35mm, 120mm down to 85mm. I was going 
>>> to mention this but I assumed you had the Nouveau version. That bar or one 
>>> like it, as there are many shorter reach and relatively normal looking drop 
>>> bars these days, plus a bit more narrow width @46cm(hoods) may be enough 
>>> without a different stem. The Salsa Cowbell, Zipp Service Course 70 XPLR, 
>>> and some Ritchey versions come to mind as having 68-70mm reach and very 
>>> slight flares. 
>>>
>>> see here : https://bikepacking.com/index/gravel-bars/ 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Summer Riding Photos 2023

[greenteadrinkers]

Hello Justus,

Wanted to ask what model Riv you touring on, noticed the third bottle cage 
and short (by Riv standards wheelbase), also are the tires 650b? if so how 
wide? curious about what those fenders can accommodate. Amazing build!
Thanks
Scott

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 7:07:24 PM UTC-4 cjus...@gmail.com wrote:

> One more from the central MN tour.
>
> [image: IMG_1167_small.jpg]
>
> -Justus
> Mpls, MN
>
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 5:25:07 PM UTC-5 J G wrote:
>
>> Back just a few days ago from this bike's first tour (with me) on a 280 
>> mile loop through central MN.
>>
>> Pictured here on the Lake Wobegon Trail somewhere near Albany, MN.
>>
>> Note the Salted Nut Roll ensuring my minty BL-R600 levers do not get 
>> scratched for a photo op.  
>>
>> Scratches need to be earned...
>>
>> [image: DSCF0699_small.jpg]
>>
>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 1:44:12 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Pedaled a couple sections  of the Saturday route for the upcoming 
>>>  Asheville, NC Riv gathering (July 7, 8 & 9). Happy to report the air was 
>>> still cool and fresh in the deep woods - not so much in the city. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1497.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1498.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1499.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1500.jpeg]
>>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 2:12:53 PM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>>
 Hello Takashi,
 Looking at your (excellent) recent images, would you mind telling me 
 what your bar and stem combo is, and a quick summation of the handling?
 Thanks,
 Scott

 On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 8:35:43 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

> Takashi,
>
> Your beautiful photos always make me miss Japan. Keep 'em coming!
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 7:26:48 AM UTC-7 Takashi wrote:
>
>> Visited the town of Hida Furukawa last weekend.
>>
>> A majestic *sanmon* (main gate of a Buddhist temple):
>> [image: DSC03134.jpg]
>>
>> An alley:
>> [image: DSC03128.jpg]
>>
>> A half-hour ride from the center of the town brought me to a steep 
>> land; I assume reclamation was a hard work here.
>> [image: DSC03123.jpg]
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Summer Riding Photos 2023

[Takashi]

Thank you John.
But, you know, summer in Japan is more severe than in Canada, and "Rinse" 
isn't easy here since rivers in Japan (https://flic.kr/p/2oz6bYx) are 
basically more treacherous than those in Canada, so mileage will be smaller 
in summer.
I'll post pictures when I go ride.

Scott, handlebar is Albastache, and the stem is Nitto Dirt Drop 10cm.
Riv recommends that Moustache bar raised high 
(https://www.rivbike.com/pages/nitto-stem-comparison), so I raised my 
Albastache high.
Climbing is equally as easy as with drop bars, and feels very natural when 
descending curvy roads, maybe most natural among the bars I've used so far.
(I've used Noodle, Albatross, Bosco, and Bullmoose.)
First I had the bar ends pointed slightly downward, and I suffered hand 
numbness. I tilted it so the bar ends point very slightly UPward, and the 
numbness is gone, though it seems counter intuitive.


Takashi

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[RBW] Atlantis touch up Testors Paint available

[luckyturnip]

Hey all,Awhile back there was some chatter about this discontinued color of Testors paint, 2135.I just bought a bottle from this eBay seller. Seems they have a couple more. No affiliation to seller nor can I speak to the condition or quality. Liz in Sacramento Model Master 1/2oz Enamel Paint-Various Colors Rare+Common | NOS/Sealed/NIOB  | eBayebay.com



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Re: [RBW] Atlantis touch up Testors Paint available

[Eliot Balogh]

Out of stock :(

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 8:04 AM  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Awhile back there was some chatter about this discontinued color of
> Testors paint, 2135.
> I just bought a bottle from this eBay seller. Seems they have a couple
> more. No affiliation to seller nor can I speak to the condition or quality.
>
> Liz in Sacramento
>
> [image: s-l500.jpg]
>
> Model Master 1/2oz Enamel Paint-Various Colors Rare+Common |
> NOS/Sealed/NIOB | eBay
> 
> ebay.com
> 
>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Atlantis touch up Testors Paint available

[luckyturnip]

Gosh DARN that was quick. There were three when I posted and I bought mine last night. Hopefully if someone nabbed them all they’ll share here. On Jun 30, 2023, at 08:16, Eliot Balogh  wrote:Out of stock :(On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 8:04 AM  wrote:Hey all,Awhile back there was some chatter about this discontinued color of Testors paint, 2135.I just bought a bottle from this eBay seller. Seems they have a couple more. No affiliation to seller nor can I speak to the condition or quality. Liz in Sacramento Model Master 1/2oz Enamel Paint-Various Colors Rare+Common | NOS/Sealed/NIOB  | eBayebay.com



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[RBW] Re: Inquiring about "sling over the rack" rear panniers; perhaps trade for Medium Happisack or Sackville?

[Bill Lindsay]

The Rivendell Sackville variant of these were called TourSacks.  FYI.

BL in EC



On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I'm sorry, a technical term for what interests me escapes me, but I'd like 
> information about panniers like this one, where the bags are connected by 
> fabric that hangs over the rack.
>
> [image: image.png]
> When I Google "roll-up panniers" I get a lot of hits, tho' I don't care if 
> they roll up and I am certainly not committed to old-tymey canvas and 
> leather and wooden sticks; I just want the kind of middle-sized panniers 
> that sling across the rack instead of separately clipping to the rails.
>
> Can anyone give me the right name for this category? Makes and models? And:
>
> And: would anyone care to discuss trading something like this for a Medium 
> Happisack? Actually, I don't know if what I have is a "Happisack" or a 
> "Sackville," but it's Rivendell, khaki canvas + brown leather + brass 
> hardware, in vg condition -- I'm the 2nd owner but have used it very little.
>
> Reason being: I use, prefer, and insist on Ortliebs for my errand/commuter 
> bike, but the newly re-shod Matt #1 "road bike for dirt" sees only 
> occasional load carrying and most of that is accomplished (with great 
> aplomb) with a large Carradice trunk bag. I have the Happisack/Sackveille 
> for bigger loads but, with the small clearance between saddle and rack, 
> panniers would work better.
>
> Would like at least 23 litres total capacity -- that of Carradice Camper 
> and current Riv Happisack.
>
> Thanks.
>
> This is nice:
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> -- 
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> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Stolen Centurian in Portland

[st nick]

Bummer!
I hope he recovers it.
Bike in pic is a Specialized Sirrus, not a Centurion.

Paul in Dallas 

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Re: [RBW] Stolen Centurian in Portland

[Carla Waugh]

Thanks!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 30, 2023, at 1:09 PM, st nick  wrote:Bummer!I hope he recovers it.Bike in pic is a Specialized Sirrus, not a Centurion.Paul in Dallas 



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[RBW] Re: Inquiring about "sling over the rack" rear panniers; perhaps trade for Medium Happisack or Sackville?

['Tom M' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Arkel makes something similar to what you're looking for 
(https://arkel.ca/collections/bike-panniers/products/dry-lites-saddle-bags). 
We use these on our tandem, and they've proved to be durable. They're 
designed to attach to your rack top with velcro straps, but I think you 
could simply leave the bags velcroed together and attached them at the 
bottom.
Tom in Alexandria, VA

On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:52:47 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The Rivendell Sackville variant of these were called TourSacks.  FYI.
>
> BL in EC
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry, a technical term for what interests me escapes me, but I'd 
>> like information about panniers like this one, where the bags are connected 
>> by fabric that hangs over the rack.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>> When I Google "roll-up panniers" I get a lot of hits, tho' I don't care 
>> if they roll up and I am certainly not committed to old-tymey canvas and 
>> leather and wooden sticks; I just want the kind of middle-sized panniers 
>> that sling across the rack instead of separately clipping to the rails.
>>
>> Can anyone give me the right name for this category? Makes and models? 
>> And:
>>
>> And: would anyone care to discuss trading something like this for a 
>> Medium Happisack? Actually, I don't know if what I have is a "Happisack" or 
>> a "Sackville," but it's Rivendell, khaki canvas + brown leather + brass 
>> hardware, in vg condition -- I'm the 2nd owner but have used it very little.
>>
>> Reason being: I use, prefer, and insist on Ortliebs for my 
>> errand/commuter bike, but the newly re-shod Matt #1 "road bike for dirt" 
>> sees only occasional load carrying and most of that is accomplished (with 
>> great aplomb) with a large Carradice trunk bag. I have the 
>> Happisack/Sackveille for bigger loads but, with the small clearance between 
>> saddle and rack, panniers would work better.
>>
>> Would like at least 23 litres total capacity -- that of Carradice Camper 
>> and current Riv Happisack.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> This is nice:
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Inquiring about "sling over the rack" rear panniers; perhaps trade for Medium Happisack or Sackville?

[Garth]

I cal them "double panniers". I had a set back in the day that even had a 
third zippered bag that covered the tops of the other two, it was huge. I 
see Public Bikes has a set for under half price. The text says each side 
can carry roughly a bag of groceries. 

https://publicbikes.com/products/public-urban-double-pannier

Then there's the Amazon mega mart that is full of double panniers, shop 
'till you drop. 

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=cycling+double+panniers&crid=2JUFK9M12HA3Y

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Re: [RBW] Re: Inquiring about "sling over the rack" rear panniers; perhaps trade for Medium Happisack or Sackville?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks Bill and Tom.

Garth: embarras des richesses; thanks. Much to review.

I got a kick out of this: Waterproof Feature: This Bicycle Panniers *make
of Organic Nylon canvas, *support to prevent the water while you riding
under the rainy weather.

Many organic canvases died to make these panniers.

Also struck by sellers' confusion about volume, often listing vastly
different CI and Litre capacities.

https://www.amazon.com/Dreamoon-Cycling-Panniers-Waterproof-Reflective/dp/B082MN5TT6/ref=sr_1_24_sspa?crid=2JUFK9M12HA3Y&keywords=cycling+double+panniers&qid=1688151002&sr=8-24-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&psc=1

FS: organics cotton canvases Sackville; inquire withins.




On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 12:46 PM Garth  wrote:
>
> I cal them "double panniers". I had a set back in the day that even had a
third zippered bag that covered the tops of the other two, it was huge. I
see Public Bikes has a set for under half price. The text says each side
can carry roughly a bag of groceries.
>
> https://publicbikes.com/products/public-urban-double-pannier
>
> Then there's the Amazon mega mart that is full of double panniers, shop
'till you drop.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/s?k=cycling+double+panniers&crid=2JUFK9M12HA3Y
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Re: [RBW] Re: Inquiring about "sling over the rack" rear panniers; perhaps trade for Medium Happisack or Sackville?

[Patrick Moore]

Forgot to add that the Public panniers would be the choice if there were
not blue.

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 12:46 PM Garth  wrote:

> I cal them "double panniers". I had a set back in the day that even had a
> third zippered bag that covered the tops of the other two, it was huge. I
> see Public Bikes has a set for under half price. The text says each side
> can carry roughly a bag of groceries.
>
> https://publicbikes.com/products/public-urban-double-pannier
>
> Then there's the Amazon mega mart that is full of double panniers, shop
> 'till you drop.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/s?k=cycling+double+panniers&crid=2JUFK9M12HA3Y
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Re: [RBW] Re: Most Discreet Bell Placement

[Steve]

Discreet bells?Nah...no need to be discrete. Make a statement - wear 
your bell proudly!  They're the mark of a courteous rider.

On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 2:22:02 PM UTC-4 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:

> It's plastic but this is my favorite bell 
> https://mirrycle.com/item/incredibell-jellibell/  <- sound effect on page
>  
> It has a cheerful little brring, not too loud, and clamps easily to a 
> stem. I love the brass bells but find the little spring jimmies difficult 
> to ring quickly without looking. On this bell you can just grab the whole 
> thing and turn it. 
>
> Mike in Austin
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 11:35:33 AM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:
>
>> Yikes, Tom. You are covered in the bell department. BTW, spares are 
>> always required of the good stuff these days for you never know when 
>> something you depend on goes away. Then you resort to searching eBay and 
>> risk being scalped 🤪
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 8:06 AM Tom Wyland  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm happy with my stem placement. It gets quite a workout on our local 
>>> rail trail. I use pogies in the winter and I'm too lazy to move the bell 
>>> during the seasons. 
>>>  I do prefer the trigger-ring bell, but the temple bell works just fine.
>>>
>>> Tom 
>>> Reston, VA
>>>
>>> [image: shifter bell.jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Fillet Brazed Bullmoose bars

[Hoch in ut]

SOLD
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 8:57:58 AM UTC-6 Hoch in ut wrote:

> [image: IMG_1705.jpeg][image: IMG_1704.jpeg][image: IMG_1703.jpeg][image: 
> IMG_1702.jpeg][image: IMG_1701.jpeg]Nitto Bullmoose bars in great shape. 
> Fillet brazed version. Little bit of bar residue. About 68cm wide (outside, 
> end to end). 
> I ended up going with another set up. 
>
> Asking $160 shipped. I need to find a box for it but should be able to get 
> it shipped by Monday. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: nib Brooks B67, 29x2.1 tires

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Thanks for all the interest! Saddle is sold, tires still available.

On Tuesday, 27 June 2023 at 18:07:29 UTC-5 jeffbog...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Brooks B67 new in package, perfect shape as shown - $95
> (2) specialized renegade 29x2.1 560g folding tires - $25
>
> Please send zip code in your pm and I'll work out shipping. Thanks!
> Jeff (Alabama)
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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop?

[iamkeith]

Wow, that's awesome.  In a recent thread, i put together a quick photo 
montage showing what I imagined to be the history and lineage of the 
"swoop-tube" idea, but I left out the "no idea is new" example.

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:01:27 AM UTC-6 John Johnson wrote:

> Seen in Paris near Stalingrad...
>
> [image: 20230629_175431.jpg]
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